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BAD LS1
10-21-2005, 01:21 PM
Granted i have kinda a ghay motor in my civic, but anyone have any info they can post up or links to turbo kits and parts etc for the D171A non Vtec SOHC motor in my 05 LX?

Ill do one if i can find something that will work thats pretty cheap lol :rolf

tenchu
10-21-2005, 01:26 PM
Go to All About Speed in S. Milwaukee, they'll let ya in on the down low :P

JohnnyT
10-21-2005, 01:45 PM
I'm sure Bee can set you up Tommy. I see you have finally realized that you need to turn to the rice side to do what you couldn't with the "mighty" LS1 :durr

jbiscuit
10-21-2005, 01:54 PM
I believe the Deciuss is the all knowing on this subject. PAGING TURBO DECIUSS...Mr. DECIUSS, you have an understudy

Crawlin
10-21-2005, 01:55 PM
I'm sure Bee can set you up Tommy. I see you have finally realized that you need to turn to the rice side to do what you couldn't with the "mighty" LS1 :durr

watch what you say ;)

JohnnyT
10-21-2005, 02:03 PM
watch what you say ;)

Why, you don't want to draw attention to the fact that you have abandoned your LS1 too??? :goof

Syclone0044
10-21-2005, 02:04 PM
Why, you don't want to draw attention to the fact that you have abandoned your LS1 too??? :goof :rolf :banana He's got ya there!!

jbiscuit
10-21-2005, 02:09 PM
ha ha ha ha......the only fast LS1 on this board is owned by Madison Dave. Nuff said.

Crawlin
10-21-2005, 02:11 PM
Why, you don't want to draw attention to the fact that you have abandoned your LS1 too??? :goof

SSSSHHHHHHH. no one's supposed to know ive gone LT1

jbiscuit
10-21-2005, 02:12 PM
have tom at OTE fab up an intake mani that LOOKS like an LS1, paint it black and slap in on the LT1 with a cam and heads and go 13.4 all day long!

Crawlin
10-21-2005, 02:22 PM
you mean i really could go low 13's with an LT1!!!

JohnnyT
10-21-2005, 02:27 PM
That's the rumor, but I for one don't believe it!

Crawlin
10-21-2005, 02:31 PM
damn, all this "hearsay" of LT1's....

alright, back on topic for Tommy

jbiscuit
10-21-2005, 02:33 PM
13's are possible. 12's? No way. Its like the gate to heaven for GVR4Johnny...he has heard about it but he will never see due to all the child porn he has on his hard drive.

JohnnyT
10-21-2005, 02:38 PM
Child porn pics??? What??? You're girlfriend told me she was 18 when I took those shots... :chair:

K, now back to Tommy turbo Civic project...

383Firebird
10-21-2005, 04:24 PM
Wow you guys make it seem like 12's are impossible in an LT1

SlowStee
10-21-2005, 04:31 PM
http://brewcitymuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9698



:yawn:

Crawlin
10-21-2005, 04:36 PM
it's not impossible. we all know that, cause they all watched me do it in a car that was fullweight with ALOT less mods then what most of the current LT1 guys have, AND still going quicker. so far the only guy that is faster is a supercharged car within 2 tenths of what i ran with JUST a cam(and a hotcam to boot) and bolt ons.

383Firebird
10-21-2005, 04:39 PM
I was actually down at the track the same day that was mentioned from the other post. I only ran 4 times but I was a decent ways into the 12s with all motor and street tires.

SlowStee
10-21-2005, 04:39 PM
it's not impossible. we all know that, cause they all watched me do it in a car that was fullweight with ALOT less mods then what most of the current LT1 guys have, AND still going quicker. so far the only guy that is faster is a supercharged car within 2 tenths of what i ran with JUST a cam(and a hotcam to boot) and bolt ons.
I told you what I will run chris..I didnt finish it this year, the parts are still sititng in my room....


only got so much done this year...(bolt-ons, tune, ect)...Next year will be fun :) - If I dont break

Crawlin
10-21-2005, 04:58 PM
see formy... you are right on par.... you car is right where it should be, and could get better with some right alterations.

if there is a 383 in the car... it better be in the 11's IMHO. unless it's setup for a huge shot and you are running a motor pass

this is only MY opinion. doesn't have to be fact or anything... just what i see and believe and the capabilities of the cars from being around them for the past 7-8 years

SlowStee
10-21-2005, 05:05 PM
see formy... you are right on par.... you car is right where it should be, and could get better with some right alterations.

if there is a 383 in the car... it better be in the 11's IMHO. unless it's setup for a huge shot and you are running a motor pass

this is only MY opinion. doesn't have to be fact or anything... just what i see and believe and the capabilities of the cars from being around them for the past 7-8 years
indeed

SLOWC5
10-21-2005, 05:19 PM
didn't know 13 seconds was a fast LS1 :confused i'm hoping for some 13.5's tomorrow at the track if im lucky i might become the fastest LS1 on BCM :alcoholic

JEFF

Bee
10-21-2005, 06:18 PM
I'm sure Bee can set you up Tommy. I see you have finally realized that you need to turn to the rice side to do what you couldn't with the "mighty" LS1 :durr

lol :thumbsup

383Firebird
10-21-2005, 09:13 PM
So a 383 should hit 11's on street tires? If it's that simple why isn't there more LT1's hitting 11s? I know I'm not the only one with a stroker motor in an LT1 in Wisconsin.

nismodave
10-21-2005, 11:25 PM
Purple Monkey Couch Guitar Window........

The preceeding was my contribution to this thread about Turbos for Hondas.

Because my statement has as much to do with them, as the last 10 or so posts.

Yooformula
10-21-2005, 11:31 PM
Dave, I saw a saweet 240 tonight on the way to work...red with deep dish chrome wheels and a carbon fiber hood. The stance was mean looking and I could barely tell what kind of car it was at first. Very nice though! Free post?

nismodave
10-21-2005, 11:34 PM
A few nice 240s running around, My buddy has a red one with a CF hood but his wheels are not deep dish.

SlowStee
10-22-2005, 03:59 AM
A few nice 240s running around, My buddy has a red one with a CF hood but his wheels are not deep dish.
re****inlax

BAD LS1
10-22-2005, 07:59 AM
May as well have called this thread the BCM lounge.... Bee any ideas???

Crawlin
10-22-2005, 12:59 PM
So a 383 should hit 11's on street tires? If it's that simple why isn't there more LT1's hitting 11s? I know I'm not the only one with a stroker motor in an LT1 in Wisconsin.

why are you going to the track on street tires? what a waste of time. that and you are tearing up the track for the rest of us.

and there are PLENTY in the 11's. they just know what they are doing. and the sad thing is you are right, you aren't the only one in WI w/ a stroker. but it seems they are still all slower than the cam only car.

if i wasn't so deeply involved with my Z's future, i WOULD build a bolt on Lt1 car and whoop all your asses. it's so sad....

Again, sorry Tom.

There are kits/pieces available. I'm sure you could build something for it. To build a log style manifold wouldn't be all that hard. just time and energy and some practice. got to find a good turbo and then the rest is just welding up some pipe. just would take some time and looking at the engine bay to see where everything might fit.

383Firebird
10-22-2005, 02:06 PM
why are you going to the track on street tires? what a waste of time. that and you are tearing up the track for the rest of us.



I'm not even gonna bother running slicks til I get the 12 bolt next year. It wasn't worth it to me to even risk having the car not driveable if it did happen to go out from running on slicks. And you know I run on street tires because you wanted to race me for money earlier this year. Glad to know I'm the only one that runs on street tires and that I'm ruining it for everyone else. You wanna talk more about this start a new thread I don't wanna take any more fun away from the Honda talk.

Junky Giorgio
10-22-2005, 03:01 PM
Granted i have kinda a ghay motor in my civic, but anyone have any info they can post up or links to turbo kits and parts etc for the D171A non Vtec SOHC motor in my 05 LX?

Ill do one if i can find something that will work thats pretty cheap lol :rolf
Why it seems as buying a honda is the new thing to do lately....i just bought an 06' EX ;) bwahahahahha

1fastsol
10-22-2005, 11:36 PM
well, if you get a chance call bee he will hook you with a good deal. you can go turbo or nos allmotor. they all work great on honda's. what kind of power do you want? bee can do a new turbo kit install and tuned for under $3000.00. and qauilty work.

BAD LS1
10-23-2005, 08:34 AM
Why it seems as buying a honda is the new thing to do lately....i just bought an 06' EX ;) bwahahahahha

Thats awesome!! i wanted to hold out for the 06' but i got a awesome deal on the 05.

What color did you get? I love the new 06 body style.

heh... i guess maybe next year ill trade it in for a new SI coupe.

BAD LS1
10-23-2005, 08:41 AM
well, if you get a chance call bee he will hook you with a good deal. you can go turbo or nos allmotor. they all work great on honda's. what kind of power do you want? bee can do a new turbo kit install and tuned for under $3000.00. and qauilty work.

Well i was thinking about a wet 75 shot or so... im not even sure what kinda power levels a completley stock D17-1A can handle... I dont htink they even have tuning programs avail?

But ive seen a few claims on 7thgencivic and proof of guys going high 15's stock on a 01+ LX and about the same to slightly slower with 01+ Ex's. You would think the EX with the 15 more hp and the vtec would slightly edge the non vtec LX out, but i guess the LX has a better 1st gear and a lower final drive ratio where the EX has a taller final drive only.

Just a high 14 sec daily driver on the spray is all you need really for the majority of stuff on hwy... its terrible i stalk so much other really ricey hondas and toyotas with this thing its funny as hell!! It effectivley smacks around celica GT's not GT-S's though and it runs neck and neck with ecotec cavaliers that are stock and runs with stock 99-00 civic Si's from a 60-100 punch. so i guess this motor aint so much of a turd after all...

deciuss
10-23-2005, 01:43 PM
Your about 3 months to late you could have had my sf turbo kit for cheep but I would check out 7thgencivic.com for any info on the turbo kits.

There are a few different ones but I would pick up a used SF kit if you can (stafford fabricaion). there is also the dezoid kit but that’s 3g+. there is a cheaper one I cant remember the name but they used a smaller turbo and the piping actually goes under the body so if you hit a speed bump ect your done.

turbos for the ex will work with your car btw all you need to do is change the down pipe I believe.

As for the engine goes on how much psi it can take stock ect lots of people are running up to 8psi with stock internals. The rsx injectors are a direct fit I believe for more fuel or there are a few return fuel line conversion kits now but thows are 1g+. Many people are just going the rex injectors and an inline fuel pump.

As for n2o I would check out the faq on the FI section on the 7th gen website since i never had to work with that i cant help you there.

if you decide that the turbos to much for you and the n2o does not put out enough hp for ya do not go with bolt ons they are a waste. people have actualy lost hp on the d17 with a intake new headers. i believe the most someone got was like 6hp with both and that’s going to run you about 600 bucks plus.

there are a whole bunch of tuning programs avalible for the d17 just go to thows forums and search.


if you need any help finding some used kits for a lot less just pm me of if you need more info ect.

deciuss
10-23-2005, 01:43 PM
did not see you knew about 7thgen sorry :)

the ex is heavyer and has different gearing i belive then the lx.

Junky Giorgio
10-23-2005, 01:57 PM
Thats awesome!! i wanted to hold out for the 06' but i got a awesome deal on the 05.

What color did you get? I love the new 06 body style.

heh... i guess maybe next year ill trade it in for a new SI coupe.

i like it...i guess....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/junkgsx/Picture0581.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/junkgsx/1523b41f.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/junkgsx/c271c892.jpg

BAD LS1
10-23-2005, 02:10 PM
that car is sweet!

BAD LS1
10-23-2005, 02:15 PM
if you decide that the turbos to much for you and the n2o does not put out enough hp for ya do not go with bolt ons they are a waste. people have actualy lost hp on the d17 with a intake new headers. i believe the most someone got was like 6hp with both and that’s going to run you about 600 bucks plus.


Yeah i know what you mean there!, i had an AEM intake on it for a bit, it seemed to rev quicker, that was it, i put the stock intake back on, even the large silencer box over top of the trans, and it felt much stronger, and 0-80 wasnt like pulling teeth anymore and it felt torquier after each shift too.

Yeah , the cheapest thing possible is what im looking for, something that will bolt on in a day, i can take care of the rest with tuning.. etc..

BAD LS1
10-23-2005, 02:24 PM
did not see you knew about 7thgen sorry :)

the ex is heavyer and has different gearing i belive then the lx.

If you know of a program avail to do this: adjust wide open power enrichment, bump ignition timing throughout the rpm range.

This is what i want to do specifically. these adjustments alone are enough to make the car have a bit more snot for my rice encounters, its only got a 9.5:1 CR so it can stand some timing.

turbogarrett
10-23-2005, 03:32 PM
Why Tom, why :confused

BAD LS1
10-23-2005, 04:54 PM
Dont worry lol, im not about to drop any major amount of money into this car. I gotthe camaro as a money pit, thats enough, im just looking for stuff to kinda make the rice a little more "peppy" it handles and stops like a go kart already.

Junky Giorgio
10-23-2005, 07:59 PM
I sense a CIVIC -vs- CIVIC race coming on.... ;) LOL

nismodave
10-23-2005, 08:07 PM
Unless you sleeve a Honda Motor, its a waste of time.

Enjoy your reliability and Gas Milage and leave it stock.

SlowStee
10-23-2005, 09:24 PM
Enjoy your reliability and Gas Milage and leave it stock.
thats a great statement

UnderPSI
10-23-2005, 11:25 PM
leave it stock.

Yea, for a week until we get bored.

wikked
10-23-2005, 11:30 PM
I sense a CIVIC -vs- CIVIC race coming on.... ;) LOL


cripple fighttttt :durr

BAD LS1
10-24-2005, 12:05 AM
heh... its not easy driving something so torqueless on a daily basis and being happy with its performance. No way am i looking to make a drag car out this thing LOL.

Yeah we might have to have a 7thgen vs 8th gen cripple fight soon BWAHAHAH

deciuss
10-24-2005, 07:36 AM
blah plenty of people running 200hp without sleved blocks with no problems.


the only one that i can think of is the profec e-01 that will do the timing for you. or the aem but thats over a grand

Teufelhunden
10-24-2005, 09:09 AM
Enjoy your reliability and Gas Milage and leave it stock.

AMEN brother, can I get an Alleluia?!

WilliamZ
10-24-2005, 09:12 AM
Nope

1fastsol
10-24-2005, 09:19 AM
get a header, exhaust, cold air intake, chip ecu and 75 nos & some good tires and you will be happy. go to ebay lots of used parts on there for cheap!

Teufelhunden
10-24-2005, 09:28 AM
Nope Someone PM'ed me one...so there.
:tomato :licky

suprafan
10-24-2005, 09:47 AM
Better gas milage is nice now and days.

Cleveland Dave
10-24-2005, 09:57 AM
whatabout a s-afc controller or something wouldnt that work?

http://www.apexi-usa.com/product_electronics.asp

jbiscuit
10-26-2005, 07:58 AM
no timing adjustments

A B4C Z
10-28-2005, 11:29 PM
Hey D-bag check this out. http://www.hondata.com/s300.html

BAD LS1
10-30-2005, 11:18 AM
Nothing for 05 D17's not even the 02's they have listed in applications??

Forget it, the car performs ok for what it is.

The camaro will get all the attention come next season, time get off my ass and run a number with that car.

A B4C Z
10-30-2005, 06:39 PM
Good idea...Hopefully the slow turd will turn some 13s next year cause it sure didnt this year :rolf

theavenger333
10-31-2005, 01:27 AM
so, seriously, winter beater racing is really no fun on this board

BAD LS1
10-31-2005, 01:15 PM
Good idea...Hopefully the slow turd will turn some 13s next year cause it sure didnt this year :rolf

Its taken a year to make a complete 1/4 mile pass now LOL :rolf

Now thats a ****** slow car!