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mattGT95
01-19-2005, 07:48 PM
and purchsed the only GM car/truck i'll even consider.

2000 Grand Prix GTP with 36k miles in red.

:)

now what should I do to it? I'm not going wild with it, but i'd like it to be in the 13's. what can I do for how cheap and keep it reliable?

Daytonapacecar959
01-19-2005, 08:47 PM
Congrats on your purchase.Mods. you need to get into the 13's,A 3.4in supercharger pulley,cat back exhaust,cold air induction,and a DHP PCM.
And if you want to get into the low 13's headers,1.90 ratio rocker's or cam,and a 3.25 pulley or maybe 3.0 with race gas.

mattGT95
01-19-2005, 09:52 PM
here's what i'm thinking. (in no particular order)

B&M transcooler
thrasher shift kit
cold air kit
cat-back
3.4" pulley
and a pcm.

I figure that'll be enough. This is my daily driver so its not getting modded to hell. it has to be 100% streetable and still get good gas mileage.

theavenger333
01-19-2005, 11:00 PM
don't really need the transcooler, hit up wicgp.com

SLOWC5
01-19-2005, 11:57 PM
Theres almost a mini mod day happening in waukesha this saturday. You should stop out, There will be plenty of people to point you in the right direction. Me as one of them :)


Let me know if you interested, right off sunset and west


JEFF

SmokinRAM114
01-20-2005, 08:52 AM
I figure that'll be enough. This is my daily driver so its not getting modded to hell. it has to be 100% streetable and still get good gas mileage.


:rolf :rolf i think we have all said that before!! :thumbsup

Brian98GTP
01-20-2005, 09:17 AM
I'll be out there in Waukesha this Saturday... You should bring the car out there....

Like mentioned above.................

3.4" pulley
DHP PCM
Home-made Fenderwell Intake
U-bend delete (exhaust after the Cat has a 'U' Shape to it... replace with straight pipe)
Colder spark plugs


Those should get you NEAR, if not IN 13's...
I had 14.0's (with 2.2 60fts.... :chair: )

Cat-back is pretty much for sound Only....
..and spending $200+ on a intake is rediculous IMO...

SlowMotion
01-20-2005, 01:23 PM
I will be there also...you will get plenty of help, you just need to ask and we will point you in the right direction.... :thumbsup

Al
01-20-2005, 06:28 PM
I just joined the dark side
I always thought of Mopar as the dark side.

Cryptic
01-20-2005, 07:17 PM
Congrats... 80k on mine without single mechanical issue

BadAzzGTA89
01-20-2005, 08:11 PM
Man i wish i had bought a GTP now :( Instead of just a GT...

mattGT95
01-21-2005, 02:40 PM
I picked it up this morning, and I think i'm in love.

this is the first GM car i've been happy driving. I just hope it lasts.

I think I might just stop down this weekend.. maybe i'll buy a couple of parts. :)

slowc5, exactly where and when. I'll stop out. maybe i'll bring that little ****er milw96cobra too.

SLOWC5
01-21-2005, 04:16 PM
were going to be at the AMRON building in waukesha. 525 progress ave. is the address. Call me if you get there. I'll tell you which side to come in..

414-916-1814

JEFF SMITH

SlowStee
01-21-2005, 04:38 PM
I picked it up this morning, and I think i'm in love.

this is the first GM car i've been happy driving. I just hope it lasts.

I.

I guess you havent driven an f-body/vette before??? :D

SLOWC5
01-21-2005, 04:41 PM
formula,

I'll turn that smile upside down for ya ;) wanna race. My GM 6cyl versus your formula :wooo

JEFF

SlowStee
01-21-2005, 04:55 PM
formula,

I'll turn that smile upside down for ya ;) wanna race. My GM 6cyl versus your formula :wooo

JEFF

In your dreams buddy, Im not stupid :D

SLOWC5
01-21-2005, 05:07 PM
why, its just got a pulley and headers:)
My 98 Daily driver, the 2002 is gone

JEFF

mattGT95
01-21-2005, 10:10 PM
WHAT TIME IS THIS ALL HAPPENING??!?!?!?!? ARGH!!?!?!

lol..

just kidding. anyway, does anyone have some links to parts? I've been to thrasher's site, and the grandprix store.

SlowStee
01-21-2005, 10:45 PM
why, its just got a pulley and headers:)
My 98 Daily driver, the 2002 is gone

JEFF
stilll dont trust you :D

Yooformula
01-21-2005, 10:48 PM
I dont trust them Vette guys either! :goof

Brian98GTP
01-22-2005, 01:02 PM
They should be out there from noon, to about 3 or 4ish.. maybe later....

I was going to go, but I dont feel like driving all the way out there in this shitty weather......

Brian98GTP
01-22-2005, 01:04 PM
just kidding. anyway, does anyone have some links to parts? I've been to thrasher's site, and the grandprix store.


Go to www.zzperformance.com or www.3800performance.com

Those are pretty much the only places you have to visit to get whatever you want....

Whatever you do... dont buy a god damn thing from www.intense-racing.com

Cryptic
01-23-2005, 08:12 PM
Whatever you do... dont buy a god damn thing from www.intense-racing.com

woo, I must be out of the loop... what happened there?

Daytonapacecar959
01-23-2005, 09:09 PM
INTENSE sucks :flipoff2:
I broke everything INTENSE that was in my car.I highly recommend ZZPerformance,my car should be in the 11's thanks to them,i'll find out in spring :headbang

Cryptic
01-23-2005, 09:44 PM
i've only bought from ZZP too. I remember when you broke a rocker.

SLOWC5
01-23-2005, 11:43 PM
my rockers were junk also

JEFF

Brian98GTP
01-24-2005, 07:36 AM
And the decals that were suppose to add 27 WHP didnt even Stick! :punch:

mattGT95
01-24-2005, 06:11 PM
so, if I do a k&n, and autolite 104's and a 180* t-stat...

Can I go to a 3.3" pulley, or should I stick to the 3.4"?

i got some overtime, so i'm starting to order up some little ****. I think after I get the pulley, I'll get the u-bend delete.

SLOWC5
01-24-2005, 07:05 PM
In order I'd start

U-bend delete
3.4 pulley ( perferably a Modular pulley system, incase you add more mods)
One of Tim and My Cold air intakes ;)
autolite 104 plugs gapped at .055"
160 T-stat in summer
DHP PCM
Rockers
Headers
One of My Intercoolers ;)

Thats a good order to follow

JEFF

Cryptic
01-24-2005, 09:52 PM
if you plan on getting headers... might as well skip all the effort you'll put in doing a U-bend delete, cuz headers will get rid of that anyway.

I had a RT downpipe (offroad) before my headers. It gave me near the results headers did.

SLOWC5
01-24-2005, 09:55 PM
at $50 for the ubend delete compared to 750 for TOG's, thats a big jump for the needed u-bend removal!

JEFF

mattGT95
01-24-2005, 10:56 PM
In order I'd start

U-bend delete
3.4 pulley ( perferably a Modular pulley system, incase you add more mods)
One of Tim and My Cold air intakes ;)
autolite 104 plugs gapped at .055"
160 T-stat in summer
DHP PCM
Rockers
Headers
One of My Intercoolers ;)

Thats a good order to follow

JEFF


wow, that helps a lot. sorry if you spelled that all out to me already, I have a shitty memory.

I have the 104's and the t-stat, the k&n is on the way. Do you have pics and prices for one of your cold air kits? and where do I get the u-bend delete done? I figured a muffler shop or something since i'm guessing it'd have to weld in. I'd do it, but I don't have a welder.

sorry for asking so many newb questions. I've never modded a poweradder car before, plus this car seems to have a lot of little quirks. My mustang was simple (to me at least).

thanks again.

theavenger333
01-25-2005, 12:11 AM
some of the ubends can just be bolted in if i remember right.... as for the intake, its a simple design, a 3-4" ABS (kinda like PVC but not) thats a foot or so long and a filter on the end, you put it in the fender for cool air. very cheap to make, great overall addition, makes the S/C whine much louder too. Tim and Jeff know what they're doin. if you look around ZZP's site they have info and links to all kinds of stuff....

Flight_740
01-25-2005, 09:46 AM
GTP's Are slow :goof

Brian98GTP
01-25-2005, 09:55 AM
WeRd!! ^^^^

Flight_740
01-25-2005, 10:31 AM
By the way matt, Sweet Gixxer. We will have to set up a BCM ride in the summer.

mattGT95
01-25-2005, 03:22 PM
By the way matt, Sweet Gixxer. We will have to set up a BCM ride in the summer.


you got it. i meet up with a few people from sportbikes.net every now and again. plus I ride almost every day with my buddies, plus I commute to work almost every day.

I put almost 4500 on my gsxr in the 8 weeks I had it at the end of last season.

Flight_740
01-25-2005, 04:57 PM
Well, I ride an FZR 600. Nothing major but it's still a blast
. I used to do the BFS rides all the time.

SLOWC5
01-25-2005, 05:10 PM
wow, that helps a lot. sorry if you spelled that all out to me already, I have a shitty memory.

I have the 104's and the t-stat, the k&n is on the way. Do you have pics and prices for one of your cold air kits? and where do I get the u-bend delete done? I figured a muffler shop or something since i'm guessing it'd have to weld in. I'd do it, but I don't have a welder.

sorry for asking so many newb questions. I've never modded a poweradder car before, plus this car seems to have a lot of little quirks. My mustang was simple (to me at least).

thanks again.


No pictures of the CAI's, we should have a prottype build this weekend or next. It will use S&B filters, and be more inexpensive that any others out there: MSP, THRASHERS, WIZAIR's. You can usually get the Ubend deletes on Ebay. They run about $50 and I can cut and weld it in for you, for a nominal fee. The 3800 is very user friendly once you spend some time under the hood. and Loves MORE AIR :D

Hope that helps

JEFF

mattGT95
01-25-2005, 06:11 PM
It will use S&B filters,

You can usually get the Ubend deletes on Ebay. They run about $50 and I can cut and weld it in for you, for a nominal fee.

I'll start looking for u-bend deletes.

if I can fix my k&n on that cold air, i'll buy one from ya. otherwise, I'm thinking about making up a fenderwall kit or using my stock airbox and putting the k&n cone in there, with some work and making the stock airbox draw air from the fender or from behind the headlight (but better)

BadAzzGTA89
01-25-2005, 06:14 PM
I'll start looking for u-bend deletes.

if I can fix my k&n on that cold air, i'll buy one from ya. otherwise, I'm thinking about making up a fenderwall kit or using my stock airbox and putting the k&n cone in there, with some work and making the stock airbox draw air from the fender or from behind the headlight (but better)
Do a under the car one !!I did that on my GTA!!Gotta love Home Depot

SLOWC5
01-25-2005, 06:33 PM
we will sell without the boxes without cones, and of course cheaper. FWI's are very dirty!

JEFF

mattGT95
01-25-2005, 06:41 PM
we will sell without the boxes without cones, and of course cheaper. FWI's are very dirty!

JEFF


well then just keep me informed!

BadAzzGTA89
01-25-2005, 07:08 PM
Take this flatten the hood of it to make it low profile and wider and mount under car!
http://www.homedepot.com/cmc_upload/HDUS/EN_US/asset/images/eplus/161635_4.jpg

Then use this to flex pipe it up to the air box
http://www.homedepot.com/cmc_upload/HDUS/EN_US/asset/images/eplus/197105_4.jpg
This is all 4inch stuff and will cost ya about 26 dollars :thumbsup