C6 Z06 Getting ready for the beast!

[GTSLOW]

http://img.s10forum.com/album1754/aax.jpg

6-piston front and 4-piston rear calipers
• Cross-drilled rotors (GAY)
• Aluminum engine block with 104.8-mm bores and pressed-in liners
• Forged steel crankshaft with 101.6-mm stroke
• 6-bolt, forged steel main bearing caps (6bolt main :wooo)
• Titanium connecting rods (hmm sounds lightweigh and strong)
• Cast aluminum flat-top pistons (gay, but better than hypernauticl)
• Racing-derived CNC-ported aluminum cylinder heads with 70-cc chambers (sounds tasty)
• 56mm titanium intake valves (sweet whats that in english?)
• 41mm sodium-filled exhaust valves (sodium filled huh?)
• 11.0:1 compression ratio (awsome)
• Composite manifold with 90 mm single-bore throttle body (90mm niiice)
• Camshaft with 15-mm (.591-inch) lift (nice lift hows it idle)
• Dry-sump oiling system (THATS FAWKING SWEET!)
• 7000-rpm redline (ah 7grand huh)
WEIGHT: 3130lbs/1420kg (:wooo)

500hp/475lb-ft torque (not to shaby)

The car sounds fawking sweet but the price tag on it is prolly way in the sky. Dam things better than a viper (IMO)!

[Crawlin]

60g's + or - is my guess :)

[JC70SS]

Not worth it. I'll take a 99 FRC for 20K+/- and put an MTI 427 in it and have plenty left over. Or better yet take the 60K and invest it in a hemi/yenko and not have a car worth half the price in 3 yrs.

[Anakonda69]

vettes rock....i would buy one....however i would have to get an '05 gto first....an orange one....mmmmmmmmmm

[PARALYZER]

Don´t forget the 6.4L LS7 V8 :)

[TransAm12sec]

I'll admit, it doesn't look as sleek as the C-5, but the performance sounds up to par. I wonder what the track times will be. What mods are there to the suspension?

[Al]

Not worth it. I'll take a 99 FRC for 20K+/- and put an MTI 427 in it and have plenty left over. Or better yet take the 60K and invest it in a hemi/yenko and not have a car worth half the price in 3 yrs.

But this is a new car.

Gosh, for about 15$ I can pick up a=some 40 year old car and weld in good motor with a big NYASSSSSS bottle and keep up yith that Yanko.

"New car," that is all that matters.


So, is that engine going to make its way into the GTO?

Also, will there be a ZO6 vert?

[GTSLOW]

But this is a new car.

Gosh, for about 15$ I can pick up a=some 40 year old car and weld in good motor with a big NYASSSSSS bottle and keep up yith that Yanko.

"New car," that is all that matters.


So, is that engine going to make its way into the GTO?

Also, will there be a ZO6 vert?


There never has and never will be a vert Z06. If you want a vert then get a reg c6. The Z06 is supposed to be a pure race car. Just look at the specs, my fav is the dry sump oil system!

[SSmike1]

the ZO6
is Manual Tranny Only,
and HARD TOP Only.

yes, race ready!!!!!!!

With Brake Ducts! :wooo
:thumbsup

[SSmike1]

There never has and never will be a vert Z06. If you want a vert then get a reg c6. The Z06 is supposed to be a pure race car. Just look at the specs, my fav is the dry sump oil system!
Naw, i would not say any vette, EVEN ZO6, is a race car.
not with Air conditioning, Radio, leather seats, power windows,
door locks, traction control system, abs brakes, fancy dash board, windows = heavy glass, etc...
All that would HAVE TO COME OFF,
then maybe your getting close to a race car.

get that sucker down to 2,200 pounds, with 600HP,
now your STARTING to get close to race car!!!!!!!
:banana

[JC70SS]

But this is a new car.

Gosh, for about 15$ I can pick up a=some 40 year old car and weld in good motor with a big NYASSSSSS bottle and keep up yith that Yanko.

"New car," that is all that matters.


So, is that engine going to make its way into the GTO?

Also, will there be a ZO6 vert?

You are missing the point. I am not talking performance, I am talking depreciation VS. appreciation. Z06 in 3-4 yrs will be worth half of the original price, Yenko/hemi/copo/LS6 will keep going up in value. Just pissing your money away with that vette.

[jbiscuit]

thats a sweet car but I would agree that is is far from being a pure race car. A Ferrari F40 you could argue is a race car for the streets. Even at 3100 ounds, the Z06 is made for the weekend cruiser more than for the track though I am sure it is quite capable on the track as well. Its like the Land Rover is to off-roading....who do you see driving most Land Rovers? Women, specifically women that are married in their mid forties with 2 kids and are in the upper tax bracket etc etc....not some hardcore off roader that takes his truck out 3 times a week to climb stumps

[Teufelhunden]

But this is a new car.

Gosh, for about 15$ I can pick up a=some 40 year old car and weld in (?) good motor with a big NYASSSSSS bottle and keep up yith that Yanko.

"New car," that is all that matters.


JC00SS' comment went right over your head...

And what is a big NYASSSSSSS bottle? A bottle of "New York A$$", this that a new micro-brew? :) :goof

[VroomPshhTsi]

I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT!!!!! :drool:

I saw a gray c6 last week, the front of those cars are f'n sweet, but i'm not a huge fan of the back (looks like a square a$$).... should be more rounded, but that's just my opinion

[Teufelhunden]

I did a quick google search...I may be wrong but I believe the photo above is a fake, photoshopped C6.

[SLOWC5]

• 56mm titanium intake valves (sweet whats that in english?)
• 41mm sodium-filled exhaust valves (sodium filled huh?)

56mm intake valves= 2.24"
41mm exhaust valves=1.64"

JEFF

[Anakonda69]

yeah the ls2 will be in the 05 gtos....

[Prince Valiant]

• Aluminum engine block with 104.8-mm bores and pressed-in liners
• Forged steel crankshaft with 101.6-mm stroke
= 427ci (actually, closer to 428....) and 7.01liters.....

[69LT1]

Sodium filled valves....Is that bad for your blood pressure?

[Cryptic]

Sodium filled valves....Is that bad for your blood pressure?
:rolf

[TransAm12sec]

So, is that engine going to make its way into the GTO?

Not that engine, but the 6L LS2. I'm not sure where the specs are for it on the internet. gmforums.org or .com possibly.

[GTSLOW]

I didnt mean it was a pure "race" car. I ment more like it was GM's production race car. Trust me I've been to the track I know what a pure race car is.

:loser


I did a quick google search...I may be wrong but I believe the photo above is a fake, photoshopped C6.

Wrong:

http://www.corvettels7.com/

Just look at the front page.

"The 2006 Z06 will be produced as a 7 liter 427 by Katech's Racing C5R motor. Designated the LS7. The power to weight ration of the Z06 will be one of the best in the business, with the exception of the Ford GT. What happend to the 3 valve heads? Check back again.

[Anakonda69]

sorry the ls2 from a vette coupe not the new z06....

[SSmike1]

the LS2
is the Standard 400HP motor
in the C6.

the LS6 or LS7, is what the New 2006 ZO6 will have,
with 500HP standard. :wooo

AWESOME!!!!!!!
:headbang

[Al]

JC00SS' comment went right over your head...

And what is a big NYASSSSSSS bottle? A bottle of "New York A$$", this that a new micro-brew? :) :goof

I'm not trying to mock anyone with that.

More like... playing golf... anyone could eventually hit a ball to the hole, but mastering it is what makes a pro different.

If you give me a pos car, a nitrous bottle and the brian spielner attitude; I just might end up with something reasonablly fast, but style would not go hand in hand with it.

As for the old muscle cars, some people are just not impressed by them (not me though (that is not-not liking old cars (double negative (lots of parenthasese here ( :goof ))))).

[GTSLOW]

Hell I would love an older muscle car IE 68 Firebird, as long as I can set it up for autocross! :wooo

http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/patrick/c6/DC-Z06-Please-Do-Not-Hotlink-To-Picture2.jpg

Photo chops:

http://www.lifeinwidescreen.com/upload/z06blackvettelowered2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/noma1/c6z06chopdarkblue.jpg

[Crawlin]

i just tossed out the 60g's as a reference. i don't know for sure. it just seems reasonable compared to the regular c6. who knows really. we haven't been given any info here at work. just timetables like what you see online. i don't think they will be the bargain that they were in the C5's though. in that respect they took a step back.

Chris

[TransAm12sec]

It appears as if your noticing one number, the price.

Simply put, 500 HP, NEW, a warranty, and reliability. When people spend 60 grand to mod a car, they don't get the last three.

As for that photoshop, that looks alot meaner.

[GTSLOW]

the LS2
is the Standard 400HP motor
in the C6.

the LS6 or LS7, is what the New 2006 ZO6 will have,
with 500HP standard. :wooo

AWESOME!!!!!!!
:headbang

LS6? You pot smoker its the LS7 only, the LS6 is gone! :punch:

[WhiteZCamaro]

I'll take 2 :3gears:

[lotsals1]

2 words TITAINIUM RODS! But they better put forged pistons in the focker
500hp out of the box normaly aspirated is sweet
you know as well as i do --mod it and it and that thing would be a serious beast
they need to put that motor in a 30k car thow--
that rotating assembly is the cats ass
6 bolt mains --the current ls1's already have that 4-on the bottom 2 in the sides --i never heard of a ls1 breaking the main areas just the sheety rods and pistons let go
i'm guesing it will be around 70k -titainium rods cant be cheap

[Al]

Traction might be a problem @ 500 hp and rwd with the engine up front. I smell a rear engined C7 as a means of getting better traction. Then again, this is about beating ferrari with the ball in their field. What better way than to put down an MR, 5 valved DOHC with an FR, pushrod car that costs 20% as much?

BTW- where can someone get an MR tranny like in a pantera?

[GTSLOW]

I smell a rear engined C7 as a means of getting better traction.


:sgay

It's a car made for road racing and autocross! Not saying that MR wouldn't be bad ass and possibly help weight distribution but comon, one word...cost!

[Al]

:sgay

It's a car made for road racing and autocross! Not saying that MR wouldn't be bad ass and possibly help weight distribution but comon, one word...cost!

True about cost, but production at the very small scale such as a 360 or Carrera will set a high cost. The only part that will need special attention is the tranny. If you take an engineering and manufacturing perspective, the only major difference is that the input and output shafts are on the same side of the casting. OR... take the engine/tranny combo and set it in backwards in the car, and then send the drive shaft back to the rear by means of a transfer case-like assembly (very strong, shouldn't brake) and send a driveshavft back to the rear diff (offset left or right, like a 4wd, a proven design). OR... keep the engine/tranny combo combined like a normal fr setup, and run the driveshaft forward a foot to the rear diff (once again, offset left or right).

This might be a bit off, but it is a practical idea that has been done time and time again. It is just the fact that the production numbers are so low that the cost remains very high.

Once again, this is just an idea eminating from tangent ideas of little significance! (I do this alot, some of you should be used to this by now)

[lotsals1]

yeah the ls2 will be in the 05 gtos....ick- unless they redo the entire car --get rid of the rear end ect

[lotsals1]

Sodium filled valves....Is that bad for your blood pressure?but keeps them cool and light

[lotsals1]

they are going after the gt40 imo --but doing it N/A witch is cooler
and it will be cheaper

[Yamahachick02]

Give it a couple of months and there will be rebates on them and the price will go down. I work at holz and everyone that I talk to that owns one said they love the car better then the C5. :devil

[TransAm12sec]

I remember reading somewhere their goal was to keep up with the new viper.

[PARALYZER]

The LS7 will be a 6.4L

[GRNDNL]

i'm guesing it will be around 70k -titainium rods cant be cheap

They're $2800 for a V6 Buick.......

[HITMAN]

Ti rods and cast pistons? Right... Sounds like a marriage made in stupidsville. :durr I can't see it really coming that way.

Ti rods are problematic for a warrantied engine that may see daily driver duty, as Ti against Ti (con-rod thrust surfaces) galls quite easily, so they would have to coat them or use some sort of barrier between the rods to keep them from touching.

Cast pistons are superior to hypereutectic? Guess again! Actually, they're both considered cast, but the hypereutectic has a higher silicon content, and is, therefore, a harder, more durable casting. Not as good as a forging, but certainly better than the run-of-the-mill casting.

IMO, the engine should be built with forged steel rods and pistons forged from a 2618 alloy. It doesn't expand as fast as other alloys, so it can run close-to-cast PTW clearance and keep the cold piston slap to a minimum, while offering superior strength and durability to ANY casting.

[GTSLOW]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/noma1/c6z4.jpg
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Vert stang?

http://img79.exs.cx/img79/8121/10006506uv.jpg

[Al]

Hwat are the 06 cobras expected to have for hp? One guy is saying 600hp, but I think it is BS (this is one of those "i will never own anything other than a for" despite that fact that he has a VW and a GN).

I think he is still pissed that car and driver beat the 04 cobra with a regular C5 in the 1/4.


Caution!!! ==> I overcomplicated the subject again!
About those Ti rods: Is it common to have a cast-in metal insert between the bushings and titanium part of the rod? Ti is a very difficult metal to work with and it has some very unsusal characteristics. Despite its tensil, compression, shear, and torsional strength, titanium is very brittle. Just picture the ti conrods surviving 100k of smackdown, but when one fell 3 feet of your workbench, it cracked when it hit the ground. Now I am not playing out that they might not use a Ti alloy, but it mught have a higher concentration of other metals.


One last thing- if I was to build a small engine for an RC airplane, what would you reccomend that I make the con-rods out of? I'm going to machine them from metal stock and possible heat treat them later on.

[SmokinRAM114]

11.0:1compression .591 lift cam :wooo