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BAD LS1
10-11-2004, 07:55 AM
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Definition of Acceleration


One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of stock cars at the Daytona 500. Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced. A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger. With 3,000 CFM (cubic feet per minute) of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 deg F. Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder. Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light! Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load. The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.

Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second.



The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph. (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting all of this into perspective:

You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin-turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

...and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!

DocDave
10-11-2004, 08:02 AM
I have read that one before, but I never get tired of it. LOL. Something all these sport compact boys need to read. Nothing compares to a Top Fuel Dragster!

Teufelhunden
10-11-2004, 12:19 PM
Something all these sport compact boys need to read.

Something those GM guys need to read... :)

GRNDNL
10-11-2004, 12:26 PM
Something those GM guys need to read... :)

Bring it on Fool...... :Hump :goof

BAD LS1
10-11-2004, 12:41 PM
Something those GM guys need to read... :)

I second what Keith said :burnout :goof

Let us be reminded what brand won the event :argue

Teufelhunden
10-11-2004, 01:12 PM
Bring it on Fool...... :Hump :goof :neandertal

How do you suppose I should "Bring it on"...the post is about a top fuel HEMI fool. :xmas :D Wait, I'll go order one up from Summit Racing with a bolt-on nitro methane kit.

BAD LS1
10-11-2004, 01:14 PM
Dont forget the 60 PSI blower too and the dual MSD pro mags :xmas

Teufelhunden
10-11-2004, 01:17 PM
Let us be reminded what brand won the event :argue

Please...people not enforcing the rules let that happen. BUT he is the champ. Long live the King(well, for another year at least). :)

BAD LS1
10-11-2004, 01:29 PM
Please...people not enforcing the rules let that happen. BUT he is the champ. Long live the King(well, for another year at least). :)

Yes im sure others will have dethrowned the king by this time next year. Im years behind most of these guys, its really incredible that 50% of the cars racing sat in our event were in the 10's!! :wow As for us 11 sec street car guys of any kind that is CONSISTENT is still a great feat and is admirable regardless of where it is in the 11s!

hahaha most of the big boys will have moved on into the single digit bracket while im still trying to move into the 10s :rolf

GRNDNL
10-11-2004, 02:11 PM
Please...people not enforcing the rules let that happen. BUT he is the champ. Long live the King(well, for another year at least). :)

What rules weren't enforced?....

Teufelhunden
10-11-2004, 02:42 PM
What rules weren't enforced?....

6. cars must have working lights/dash/interior ect... no gutted cars allowed. (pass seat can be deleted)

:) His Majesty's car is tubbed... i.e. sheetmetal

I'm okay with it, but why have rules if they're not enforced. I'm sure next year will be different, more classes.

Syclone0044
10-11-2004, 08:14 PM
http://www.nhra.com/images/2002_NHRA_CDR.gif

1.) I also have seen this many times before but it still never gets old. It's funny every time I see it I try to figure out how old the copy is, this one you can tell is a few months because the current speed record was set in Spring at Joliet by Brandon Bernstein at 333.41 MPH; check www.nhra.com Statistics / "National Records". Those records change so fast!! (Every time they visit Joliet basically).

2.) NHRA is truly awesome in the literal sense of that word (the slang sense too), which is why I am surprised it doesn't seem like anyone other than me from BCM goes to the NHRA events anymore?? I went to last Spring Joliet (my first one), this Spring Joliet, and two weeks ago Fall Joliet. I think they set records every time I went. Any of you guys go and just kept quiet about it? :goof

3.) I agree with MoparScott.. 15 small block street cars and one big block nitrous race car.. :puppyeyes Nice car, but seems like it belongs in another class.

SSmike1
10-12-2004, 06:23 AM
OH Man,
do you want to feel what that is like!!!!!!! ?
I did!
I just Laughed the whole time.
I screamed like a little girl on a swing for the first time going to high!
:wooo

go to Cedar Point, and take a ride on Top Fuel Dragster.
:rolf

It is the MOST AWESOME acceleration RUSH you will ever have,
unless you get to fly a f16 fighter Jet! Launched off of a Carrier.

The Rides, ( TOP FUEL DRAGSTER ), acceleration is equivelent to a 10,000HP top fuel dragster!
just absolutely awesome!
I got there on a thursday night, and stayed in the Parks Hotel.
The people who stay in the hotels, get in the next morning,
1 hr before everyone else. I went strait to the Top Fuel Dragster,
and rode it over & over till i was dizzy!
well,
dizzier than normal!
:goof

SSmike1
10-12-2004, 06:30 AM
[QUOTE=Syclone0044
2.) NHRA is truly awesome in the literal sense of that word (the slang sense too), which is why I am surprised it doesn't seem like anyone other than me from BCM goes to the NHRA events anymore?? I went to last Spring Joliet (my first one), this Spring Joliet, and two weeks ago Fall Joliet. I think they set records every time I went. Any of you guys go and just kept quiet about it? :goof.[/QUOTE]

hey josh,
next time ya go, let me know ahead of time,
and i'll go with ya!
I love watching the FLAMES shoot up out of the exhaust,...
on a Nitro Car.

ever see them at night!

at WOT, the flames get to be 10 feet long!

just a fricken awesome display of HP.
:wooo

Wannarace62188
10-12-2004, 09:16 PM
yea when u go to joliet let me know too i used to go all the time but i dont know what happened

whistlin six
10-14-2004, 12:38 PM
[QUOTE=Syclone0044][IMG]http://www.nhra.com/images/2002_NHRA_CDR.gif[/IMG

2.) NHRA is truly awesome in the literal sense of that word (the slang sense too), which is why I am surprised it doesn't seem like anyone other than me from BCM goes to the NHRA events anymore?? I went to last Spring Joliet (my first one), this Spring Joliet, and two weeks ago Fall Joliet. I think they set records every time I went. Any of you guys go and just kept quiet about it? :goof

I'm an NHRA fan and have been to every Joliet event since they opened,
I've also been to Indy,Denver,St Louis,California and Texas.
A few years back I helped crew on a local top fueler competing in the NHRA,
that was one of the greatest experiences I've ever had.
The intensity of standing on the starting line behind a pair of top fuelers
is unexplainable and unmatched by anything on this planet, it makes my
heart pound just thinking about it.