Project Mupra

[Slow5oh]

There seems to be quite a bit of interest in this, from my WTB thread so here's the scoop


About the car:
92 LX Notchback, 5 speed car, black interior, bimini blue exterior, California car, about 95% rust free. Old setup was a stock block 302, Vortech Si v3, Trickflow heads, e303 cam, trickflow rockers, the usual setup. It put down 470rwhp and 446 ft/lbs. I was looking to go faster, make more power and I knew that wasn't happening on this stock block setup. I decided to let the old setup go, and was going to go the LS turbo route, but I wanted something different, and I wanted to make people mad in the process.


Here's the plan I've come with as of now, parts in bold are what I've already acquired (Huge thanks to Aj @ Endless for great prices). End goal is around 900rwhp, complete street car, no cage, full interior


Motor:
2JZGTE VVTI
Stock Crank
SP custom 10:1 Pistons
BC 625+ Rods
Titan Billet mains
Titan cam gear
ARP hardware
GSC Stage 2 Cams
GSC Beehive valve springs/Ti Retainers
SP Intake manifold
SP Intercooler
SP Quick spool valve
SP boost activated cut outs
PTE 6870 BB


Fuel
Dual Walboro 450s
FIC 1650H
E85


Suspension
Strange Coil overs
Double AA K chromoly K Member and A Arms
Maximum motorsports upper/lower control arms

Stiffler web subframe


Wheels
Weld RTS 71 15x10
26" tire


Transmission
I'm still torn on this, as much as I'd like to do a v160 it's a lot of added cost. I'm really considering the 370z 6 speed with colins adapter kit.


Engine Management
ProEFI


Rear end
8.8
Welded Tubes
33 Spline Strange pro race axles
Strange Spool
Trickflow cover
Disc brakes






Here's some pictures of the old setup
http://i.imgur.com/xyJJApJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G1HFyfa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/l0FBjp0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/monRtJf.jpg


11/27 Pulled the motor/trans
http://i.imgur.com/0WpecdS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ubhyGws.jpg


11/29 Pulled K-Member/Started pulling wiring
http://i.imgur.com/N0oxEty.jpg


12/2 Ordered my motor, Cam gears came in (looking to get rid of one if anyone is interested), picked up my rear end
http://i.imgur.com/NZVdOPR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lh3Vy0j.png
http://i.imgur.com/G9GsBso.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xwIge6E.jpg


12/4 Headlights/cobra grille came in
http://i.imgur.com/buz69qJ.jpg

[Slow5oh]

reserved

[-stew-]

Dope.

[loud91rs]

That's gonna be a really cool build! AJ is a big help when you have a project like this. Keep us updated!

[Slow5oh]

Thanks guys, I definitely will. I'm not rich so it's a slowish build.

Motor should be here Monday, along with the pistons. Next week will be busy!

[-stew-]

That side shit is killer! That's my new desktop!

[95 TA - The Beast]

and I wanted to make people mad in the process.

Sorry, I just have to ask, exactly what does that mean?

[Slow5oh]

That side shit is killer! That's my new desktop!

Thanks! Photo credit goes to john themmes for that shot

[Slow5oh]

Sorry, I just have to ask, exactly what does that mean?

A lot of people were angry i was going to put an ls in this clean of a notch. A lot more people are angry that im putting an import motor in. I do things for myself and no body else and like to be different, especially when it comes to my cars

[Haulin' Oates]

A lot of people were angry i was going to put an ls in this clean of a notch. A lot more people are angry that im putting an import motor in. I do things for myself and no body else and like to be different, especially when it comes to my cars

Same reason I'd do it. Cool build, I'm looking forward to following along.

[Slow5oh]

Was a late night Saturday, about 4 in the morning :O

But I got the entire front clip pulled, and started on the interior
People who install aftermarket alarms should be punished!
http://i.imgur.com/lr88MZc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bKUcAK2.jpg

[blackmage]

Quote Originally Posted by Slow5oh
and I wanted to make people mad in the process.



the win, this gets all of it. :)

[Wagonbacker9]

Not something you see a lot of. For that reason and many others... this is going to be a fun project to follow.

[Boostaddct]

Subscribing so I can follow the build! :)

[Prince Valiant]

Any thought to doing an automatic vs a manual?

Cool build...very cool.

[Slow5oh]

Cost wise yes but the fun of manual is way more intriguing

[Slow5oh]

Pistons came in today
http://i.imgur.com/UI1UvQh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AapYgCD.jpg

[95-1LE-Z28]

Nice build bud. Subscribing for updates.

[Slow5oh]

Thanks!

Rods and springs came in today, Titan mains will be in Thursday. Motor is waiting to be delivered, the dumb bitch at Fedex asked if i would have a group of people to lift it off the truck with the driver. :durr

So I'm still trying to figure that out. I already had to pay 50.00 for residential I figured they would know Im not going to have a fork lift at my house. They want to charge another 106.00 to have a truck with a lift gate deliver it. :fire

[AK_S2K]

Nice build you have there, sir ;) hahahah

- Andy

[Slow5oh]

more race car stuff, thanks GSC for this sweet sticker
http://i.imgur.com/3gLuLzc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/03oIS2o.jpg

[Slow5oh]

Finally
http://i.imgur.com/ZTXYapi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/xqE2AuS.jpg

[Reverend Cooper]

do approve

[Slow5oh]

Hey mike whats your works price on a v160??

[Reverend Cooper]

No idea

[Slow5oh]

Started disassembling the motor tonight. This thing had a hard life, I'm afraid to to see the internals.

Of course all the hoses were rock hard and just split into pieces, and most of the clips broke as soon as I pushed down on them so I guess I will be nickel and dimed for all that fun stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/TC6IZtK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0f9gv5N.jpg
These caps and hardware were one the worst smelling things I have ever dealt with
http://i.imgur.com/3DvFicb.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/6sMF5RC.jpg

[95-1LE-Z28]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/551706481532859/


Join a couple of the Supra sell/trade groups on Facebook, you'll be able to source the missing/broken parts easily that way. In the past few days I've seen a couple of cars being parted out.

[spooln30]

Tweaked Performance can do a full harness conversion for ya plus they will replace any bad connectors. They did my harness for my 2j MK3 swap and it turned out perfect plus they are the kings of 2j swaps into anything. Very smart choice running the ProEFI. That thing has saved some many engines with its built in limp mode features.
If you've never built a 2jz download a FSM for all of the little details because they're are some. Looks like a good start.
Btw get on some Supra forums and maybe you can find a V160 that has some problems on the cheap then just send it to Jack's Transmissions and they'll build it better than oem. Good Luck.

[spooln30]

If your doing the harness yourself and need connectors go to DriftMotion. They sell every connector for the 2j harness and are cheaper than Toyota.
Here's Tweakeds website.

http://www.tweakdperformance.com/index2.html

And DriftMotion's

http://www.driftmotion.com/

[Slow5oh]

Awesome thanks for the links spooln! So when you say conversion you mean they will make the stock ford harness work?

[Slow5oh]

Did do much with the block after work, decided the gym was a better choice. Did pick up the titan mains though
http://i.imgur.com/Y3tyHFc.jpg

[Irish]

There is a black Sn95 swap on 1320, if you haven't seen it already.

[Slow5oh]

Pulled the cams and started cleaning some stuff up. Goes on the stand tomorrow. :tup:

Oh yeah, and this happened when this piece fell off my table (I'm not sure what this "piece" is called, or why it shattered :/)
http://i.imgur.com/Qr09i82.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/G3NDW6O.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ngDgSqx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2tWsE65.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DiTaKWY.jpg?1

[Slow5oh]

There is a black Sn95 swap on 1320, if you haven't seen it already.

Yeah I did see that! I guess when this one is done I'll have the first VVT-i swap!

[spooln30]

Awesome thanks for the links spooln! So when you say conversion you mean they will make the stock ford harness work?

Yes you send them the 2j engine harness and the Ford harness under the dash. Not sure what your doing for the gauges like tach&speedo but call Dr Tweak at Tweaked Performance and he'll let you know what they would need from you and just let him know what your plan is for gauges and what not. When I sent my MK3 harness and 2jz engine harness I got a fully plug and play harness. The only thing I had to wire in was the alternator because it's not apart of the engine harness but that's very simple once you figure out what wire is for what.
Also since your running the ProEFI ask Dr Tweak if he can wire in the check engine light to come on the gauge cluster if a cel comes on.

[spooln30]

Oh yeah if you keep the VVTI your gonna need the correct cam gear. It looks like you got the non vvti gear from the pic.
Where did that part bolt to that cracked? Can't tell cuz the pic is too close up.
Your engine is gonna need some time in a good parts washer. I would take it to a machine shop. Well you'll have to anyway cuz I believe the Titan main caps have to be lined honed. Oh duh your doing forged pistons so it's going to a machine shop anyways. Lol You can tell the owner of that 2j didn't change the oil very often because of the oil staining on the inside of the engine. Good thing it's not sludged cuz that stuff is a PIA to fully get cleaned out. Most times we just junk an engine that is sludged up because you'll never get that crap out of all of the oil passages.
I would also get a SP modified oil pump. They shimmed it, open up the return oil gallery and install 3 small screws on the front seal due to them having issues with FMS popping out.
I also noticed your crank sensor trigger gear is different then my non vvti 2jzgte. It should still work but I would call Larry at SP to make sure if you ditch the vvti would you need the non vvti crank trigger.

[floaters]

it looks like the valve cover that cracked apart

[Slow5oh]

I'm dropping it off at Sound and having them take care it. I did buy the cam gears before I found the VVTi engine as my original plan was to go non VVTi so I can use one of them, just not on the intake side. The part that broke is the cam cap? with the sensor on the intake cam.

[spooln30]

Sound Performance for the harness or the engine? Should have said something I've built plenty of 2jz's, all still rocking. Supras are my specialty. Lol.

[Slow5oh]

For the engine and head work.

[blackmage]

Nice progress on parts buying, can't wait to see it at least mocked up in the car! Like others had said, those heads make the engine look like its had a hard life with few oil changes. Glad to hear youre stripping it completely down and sending er in!


I hated working on the 2JZ that I had lol http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/blackmage96/198_521839514122_185107090_32945312_814_n.jpg

[Slow5oh]

So I got quite a bit done tonight. I'm not very pleased with the condition of this motor at all, so some phone calls will be made.

Should be a bare block tomorrow, after I pick up a puller.

http://i.imgur.com/M9VH45c.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cBPjwqF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bdjRY8Q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OzeimYj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XIIjW1b.jpg

[spooln30]

Wow that's probably one of the worse 2j I've seen inside. Sorry to see that but I'd bet that thing still ran like a champ. Lol. Looks like they ran GM DexCool plus never changed it......ever. I can still see cross-hatching in the cylinders which is a good thing. You also should have drained the block of coolant using that drain on the right side. That would have kept the coolant from going into the cylinders when you pulled off the head. It makes the cylinders looks worse then they really are.
It's gonna take a few times in the block washer to get all of that crap out of there. Once fully cleaned I think you'll be just fine.
Where did you buy this engine from? I know when I bought mine the TPS was broken and the valve seats were a little pitted so I called the place I purchased my 2jzgte from and they actually gave me a $550 refund. Since I was rebuilding mine right away it didn't make a big difference but the money helped. Japan has a law where they can't drive their cars after a certain milage or KM but I think they can pay a tax to do so after the set Km and that's why there so many used JDM drivetrains out there for sale. If this is the case with this engine, the person really abused this poor little 2jz. :(

I've seen videos of these lots filled with all sorts of cool cars like old Z cars, Skylines and Toyotas. I would love to get my hands on a 2 door 70s GTR Skyline. They are gorgeous vehicles. Heck I'd even take a 70s Celica GT. Those are bad ass looking rides. Just slap in a 2j or a Beams 3sgte and I would have one sweet old school Japanese muscle car. Just getting it over here would cost another $5-7k on top of the cars price.

[Slow5oh]

I bought it from jdmusamotors on eBay who supposedly has people in japan hand picking stuff for them. If you're up for another build I will be in contact with you. PM me a number I can contact you at.

This is their warranty

Warranty:

· USAJDMMOTORS, INC. ENSURES THAT EVERY USED ENGINE THAT IS SOLD WILL BE IN WORKING AND SERVICABLE CONDITION. HOWEVER THESE ENGINES ARE USED AND THE WARRANTY IS LISTED BELOW.

1. Used Engines-60 Days

2. Used Performance Engines (turboed, VTEC, VVT-i)-30 Days

3. Rotary Engines-No Warranty

4. Electrical Parts and Components-No Warranty

5. Used Transmission-30 Days

· The warranty covers all internal engine parts.

· 30 day Warranty will not covered if installation is done by a non-certified mechanic.

6. Customer is responsible for all charges on return items and shipment of replacement parts will be held until we have inspected the item and verified its defects.

7. JDMUSAMOTORS, INC. is not responsible for any labor work.

8. Warranty becomes null and void if found that customer negligence is the reason for blown engines.

ITEMS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY:

1. All external parts.

Disclaimer:
JDMUSAMOTORS INC. will not be held responsible for installation and uncharacteristic uses of engines/transmissions. As such, the following parts and incidents are not covered under our warranty

1. Engines and transmissions are required to be professionally installed. We do not provide any installation support and recommend that all work should be done by an AES certified technician. Warranty becomes null and void if installation is not done by a certified technician.

2. All exterior body parts, interior, wheels, suspensions, axles are under no warranty.

3. External parts of the engine such as, power steering, starters, hoses, flywheel, clutches, wiring, gaskets, sensors, and ECU.

4. Customers are responsible for flushing the oil system and changing of the oil pump. Failure to do so will null and void any warranty due to engine failure.

[nismodave]

Nice to see someone do a Supra motor swap in a car for a change.

[spooln30]

What else were people swapping them into? Lol

[Slow5oh]

just heard back on the head, it IS usable, now to clean up the block and send that out.

[Moparjim]

Thats not really that bad.... Like Spooln30 said what you really care about is the condition of the cylinders etc and all that stuff looks good at least in the pics. if there was pitting/corrosion etc in the cylinders that would be one thing. Inside the water passages a lot of that really doesnt matter a bit. Keep in mind it may have sat somewhere for some amount of time before being pulled sent over here and sold so a lot of that corrosion might just be from sitting. If your tearing it down just have it hot tanked if you have to and it will be good as new in there.

[Slow5oh]

Heads done, just waiting on price for the cams. Then block will go off to get hot tanked, machined, lined honed for the billet mains.

[spooln30]

If you don't have cams then the heads not done. You still have to set the valve clearances. :)

[AK_S2K]

Did you end up picking between the GSC S1's and S2's? I was just informed my GSC S2's are on backorder for 2 months!!!

Looked into the alternative being the Kelford 202-d's 274/280's and they are on backorder till 3/27/15! UGH!

The head for my car is sitting at M&S in New York waiting to be shimmed LOL

I'll shoot you a text this weekend!

- Andy

[spooln30]

According to GSCs website both S1 and the S2 are out of stock.
I don't think he needs the S2 cams, I think a 264 ish cam will work just fine with his turbo size he planing on running. The S1 cam I believe is a 269 cam. Now if he was running a 71mm turbo or larger I would say a 274ish or the S2 cam for sure.

[Slow5oh]

If you don't have cams then the heads not done. You still have to set the valve clearances. :)

Touche, I should say the head is ready to be shimmed and picked up


Did you end up picking between the GSC S1's and S2's? I was just informed my GSC S2's are on backorder for 2 months!!!

Looked into the alternative being the Kelford 202-d's 274/280's and they are on backorder till 3/27/15! UGH!

The head for my car is sitting at M&S in New York waiting to be shimmed LOL

I'll shoot you a text this weekend!

- Andy

I called and spoke with them directly and they said they have a couple sets of VVT-i cams in stock @1075 for the set.


According to GSCs website both S1 and the S2 are out of stock.
I don't think he needs the S2 cams, I think a 264 ish cam will work just fine with his turbo size he planing on running. The S1 cam I believe is a 269 cam. Now if he was running a 71mm turbo or larger I would say a 274ish or the S2 cam for sure.

The VVT-i cams aren't on their website. Reid said to go with the S1s, but GSC is telling me stage 2 for my power goals and turbo. They have different specs than the non vvti cams I guess.

[spooln30]

Oh yeah I forgot your still going with the vvti. What are the gsc s2 vvti specs?
I remember you saying your goal was 1k hp so that would be around 800ish whp so according to GSCs website the S1 fits right in your range. Usually 274 cams are for 71mm to 80mm turbos but people have run 274s on turbos in the 61-68mm range. You will notice a slight idle loop but you've never ran a 2jz so you probably won't even notice the difference. Lol . Now if you plan on going for more power down the road then get the S2 or 274 deg cams. Lmk when your ready to rock n roll.

[Slow5oh]

Head will be done next week, I ended up going with GSC Stage 2 cams.

[spooln30]

Good choice. Did you take the block in for machine work yet?

[Slow5oh]

Finally picked this doohickey up. Block will be going out shortly after, then k-member/motor mount fab starts.
http://i.imgur.com/RRUXwg3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F1pxbJ3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/59NwXCT.jpg

[spooln30]

Good to see its moving foward. Btw what head studs are you going to use? The regular ARPs studs or the larger/stronger CA625+? If your going with the larger studs don't get the L19s because they do corrode but you would've had to made this decision before the head was done because the holes needed to be enlarged. You should give me a call before your going to take the block in so we can go over the plans and make sure things are headed in the right direction.

[Boostinlx]

Nice build! You have a super clean notch. I like the swap, it's different!

[spooln30]

It's different and gonna be a beast but what would be really different would be a rotary like a triple rotor. Lol. Nothing like a loud obnoxious torque - less engine right. Lol. Kidding of course. Would be kinda cool to see though.

[Irish]

https://www.facebook.com/1320Videos/videos/10153500470537112/

[-stew-]

Anything new?

[spooln30]

Last I heard he's selling everything. :(

[blackmage]

Boooo :(