I'm one of the cool kids now...

[-stew-]

Scooped up an AR15 yesterday day. (Thanks again Eric for not gauging on a hi demand item!) Its a Smith and wesson m&p15 lower, ease told the guts are from Spikes, and the upper is from Bravo. The lower is clearly marked with model and manufacturer. The only markings I've found on the upper is the caliber and twist rate stamped on the muzzle. And there's some stampings on the furniture. Nothing inside the upper, and nothing on the bolt.

Its got an ass ugly paint job on it I'm gonna strip off, would I find any markings on the upper/barrel printed on them (provided they don't get removed with the paint?)

Is there any areas of concern to look at before I shoot it? Or should I just clean it up, oil it up, shoot it and take things from there? I'm new to ar's, but not foreign to them having been in the army. I can rip one apart and put it back together, not not sure if there are any issues with one that didn't start life as one complete rifle.

[pOrk]

Hope you can fix the appearance of it! Haha, camo is a no go unless its snow camo, doooo it.

[lit666]

Pics?

[-stew-]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/09/u7e7yvyd.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/02/09/6u2udezy.jpg

[-stew-]

The black area by the forward assist is about two minutes worth of nail polish remover and a cotton ball.

[lit666]

Have Yoosof Plasti-dip that bitch.. Gun metal gray would look awesome.

[Rifleman WI]

The only marking on the barrel should be the ones you found near the muzzle. Some barrels have the twist/Cal lasered in insted of being stamped. the upper might have been t marked at one time but if there not machined marks, they might not be there if you strip the paint off, depending if they were painted or lasered. There shouldent be much concern shooting it, only thing i can think of is headspace, but AR's are self headspacing if the parts are made by good manufactures. ( in tolerance) When i was in the army we would check headspace, barrel erosion, barrel straightness and a few other things every year, but our rifles got beat the hell out of.

[Russ Jerome]

As long as the caliber is correct shoot away, they call them "milspec" because a $2000 AR is identicle to a $689 AR, only the name changes. I've had to remove bur's from $1600 JP Enerprise target guns that looked like crap next to $499 mail order pencil barrel M4.

[Rifleman WI]

We had Colt M4's that were shit right out of the box also in the Army.


As long as the caliber is correct shoot away, they call them "milspec" because a $2000 AR is identicle to a $689 AR, only the name changes. I've had to remove bur's from $1600 JP Enerprise target guns that looked like crap next to $499 mail order pencil barrel M4.

[Reverend Cooper]

Still not a cool kid

[fivonut]

The black area by the forward assist is about two minutes worth of nail polish remover and a cotton ball.

Right above that black area will be a raised mark. Its the forge mark of the company that forges the upper. Every Bravo company upper I've ever seen has had a square forge mark. If the paint remover doesn't take it off there would be BCM logo there. The bolt carrier group should be an M16 carrier, the carrier will have the BCM logo laser engraved in it. Its visible in the ejection port when the bolt is closed. The bolt itself should also have an HP/MP mark lasered in it. Bring by the Franklin show tomorrow, ill tell you if its BCM or not.

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[MurphysLaw88GT]

Yes, BCM have Square forge markings on uppers, and laser-etched BCM script and barrels are stamped specific features and chambering / ROT.

[-stew-]

Muzzle is stamped:


5.56 NATO 1/7


Upper has a keyhole looking mark on it. Not stamped, but raised. Nothing found on the bolt or bolt carrier, but they are filthy and I haven't cleaned them yet. Was gonna take it to the gun show yesterday and do some asking around to what it is, but I forgot.

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8111&d=1360522900

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[-stew-]

Some google foo tells me the keyhole mark is the Cerro Forge mark. And they forge a shit ton of uppers for a shit ton of makers.

[MurphysLaw88GT]

A typical BCM should read (unless a hammer-forged) "HP MP 1/7 5.56 NATO".

[Reverend Cooper]

What did you break on it already?

[-stew-]

Fucked up the take down spring and lost the detent.

[Rifleman WI]

This and ive seen a bunch of Splintered A forged uppers from them lately also, never any keyhole's tho. But the keyhole uppers are very common and good uppers, yours just doesn't seem to be a factory assembled BCM upper.


Yes, BCM have Square forge markings on uppers, and laser-etched BCM script and barrels are stamped specific features and chambering / ROT.

[-stew-]

Alllllmost done cleaning it up. Looks amazing. No markings were found under the paint on the upper, and stripping the paint didn't take off the S&W markings on the lower. Cleaned up easy as shit. I'm glad people are lazy; it saves me money.

[-stew-]

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8114&d=1360624504

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8112&d=1360624472

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8113&d=1360624489





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[Irish]

Well done!

[-stew-]

Thanks!

[xxtremeteam]

Much better looking

[Lash]

Shit... After all that scrubbing, your hand is gonna feel like a whole new woman.

[*SNOOP*]

Now get a "BIG BOY" mag in that thing!! Not that 20 round shit!!

[-stew-]

They are on their way. Ordered before I stumbled upon the rifle, actually.

[xxtremeteam]

They are on their way. Ordered before I stumbled upon the rifle, actually.


but do you have any rounds for them when they arrive?

[73MACH]

That looks wayyy better!

[Rifleman WI]

thats the shitty part, i barely went to the range before this stupid impulse buying crap happened, now i can never go to save my ammo for if i need it. My .300BLK will be covered in cobwebs by the time i get to shoot it again.

but do you have any rounds for them when they arrive?

[Reverend Cooper]

I have shit tons of ammo

[-stew-]

thats the shitty part, i barely went to the range before this stupid impulse buying crap happened, now i can never go to save my ammo for if i need it. My .300BLK will be covered in cobwebs by the time i get to shoot it again.

Gander in richfield has six boxes of 300 blackout. $39 a box.

[Rifleman WI]

Im hoping thats a price for a hunting round, if not, screw that. I may have to give them a call. I found some 125gr ballistic tip hunting rounds for $28 a box from a guy on line. Sucks, when you could find it, regular fmj 110gr remington was $11 a box...


Gander in richfield has six boxes of 300 blackout. $39 a box.

[Reverend Cooper]

my brother makes 300 black out

[Rifleman WI]

How much a box/ subsonic/supersonic/ bullet weight?


my brother makes 300 black out

[-stew-]

Im hoping thats a price for a hunting round, if not, screw that. I may have to give them a call. I found some 125gr ballistic tip hunting rounds for $28 a box from a guy on line. Sucks, when you could find it, regular fmj 110gr remington was $11 a box...


Just seems retardedly expensive to shoot, even for hunting ammo. I looked at some ballistic charts and it equal to a .30-30.

[Reverend Cooper]

call him,I dont know or care i dont own one honestly. 715-479-8873 ask for brian

[Rifleman WI]

It is, but i also wouldent surprise me if they jacked up the price either. Austin and i were there a few weeks back and heard a salesman telling another customer " were taking $700 dpms rifles, sticking $300 worth of scopes and lasers on them, and selling them for $2000" bragging about it. When ammo was avaiable, you could get 300 blk softpoints for $20ish a box. About the same as most other hunting rounds.

Ill have to give him a call, thanks.

Just seems retardedly expensive to shoot, even for hunting ammo. I looked at some ballistic charts and it equal to a .30-30.

[*SNOOP*]

I have 2 blackouts... I feel your pain.... Just shot 400 rounds last weekend, and I have 800 rounds left but its the good stuff!! I won't be shooting that!!

[Reverend Cooper]

dont bother going to midwest in lomira they have nothing on the shelves or coming in at all it is crazy

[Rifleman WI]

Mr. Moneybags! I felt bad shooting off 25 rounds through mine because i didnt stock up before the crazyness hit.. oh well. it is a fun gun tho.. im going to pick up one of the H&R/AAC .300BLK Handi Rifles soon..

I have 2 blackouts... I feel your pain.... Just shot 400 rounds last weekend, and I have 800 rounds left but its the good stuff!! I won't be shooting that!!

[-stew-]

the H&R/AAC .300BLK Handi Rifles soon..

Why? What is the hard on for this caliber? I just don't get it.

[Rifleman WI]

Because it allows you to shoot a .30 caliber round out of an AR platform with just having to change the barrel. With 7.62x39 you need to change the bolt/barrel/magazines. Same with 6.8SPC. Im getting bored with 5.56, so i wanted to build something with more power. Also its pretty sweet when suppressed.

http://youtu.be/y8BylISWMak



Why? What is the hard on for this caliber? I just don't get it.

[TheRX7Project]

Edit: Misread your post.

[-stew-]

What are some good open sights that aren't gonna break the bank? Granted it hard to tell without sights, but with the flat top, it seems like this thing will/would be awkward to shoot with open sights. Shooting an A2 with open sights and a carry handle on top, it shouldered and felt like it was born there looking through the sights. Where it feels at home on my shoulder, I can't get my head where my eye feels like it will be lined up with open sights. If I get my head/eye where they feel right, it feels wrong on my shoulder.

[Rifleman WI]

Fixed or folding sights? Alot of people go with the magpul mbuis sights because there cheap.



What are some good open sights that aren't gonna break the bank? Granted it hard to tell without sights, but with the flat top, it seems like this thing will/would be awkward to shoot with open sights. Shooting an A2 with open sights and a carry handle on top, it shouldered and felt like it was born there looking through the sights. Where it feels at home on my shoulder, I can't get my head where my eye feels like it will be lined up with open sights. If I get my head/eye where they feel right, it feels wrong on my shoulder.

[MurphysLaw88GT]

Iron sights? As asked earlier, fixed or folding?

I like the Troy folding battle sight or the KAC 2-600M. The latter is a more precise sight. I have both and like both.

[TheRX7Project]

I've got an NC*STAR flip up rear sight, works perfectly with my red dot or without (co-witnessing). It was pretty cheap. If you plan on running any sort of non-magnified optic, a flip up rear sight and fixed front sight are great. If I was going to war, no, I wouldn't trust an NC*STAR sight, but for trips to the range my cheap optics are doing just fine.

[Rifleman WI]

Just for -stew-... The continued 300 Blackout boner...
http://imageshack.us/a/img842/9246/300blkhandi2.jpg

[kevcuda]

Whoever molested that should never own anything even a little cool

[Rifleman WI]

Whoever molested that should never own anything even a little cool

Molested what?

[kevcuda]

The cool kids AR

[Rifleman WI]

The cool kids AR
Ahh, yea. Spray paint and guns dont mix. I just picked up a single shot 12 gauge that was painted with the thick pebble texture paint on the barrel, it took a wirewheel to get that shit off.

[-stew-]

Just for -stew-... The continued 300 Blackout boner...


Cool story bro.

[Rifleman WI]

Cool story bro.

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it.

[kevcuda]

Not meant to be painted ever. Metro gun ownership....