Homebuilt Twins!

[FourEyedFord]

Well, I decided to take the car in a new direction this year. I wanted something a lot more streetable, milder motor and pump gas friendly, but still be capable of an 8 second pass if I wanted to run race gas. So what we came up with is a 370" SBF with twin 60mm Borg Warner Turbos, air/air intercooler, powerglide, and of course a carb. All of it was built by me and my friends, which I can't thank enough.

The turbo kit consists of flipped JBA shorty stainless headers that were laying around the shop, 2.5" piping to the turbos, 3.5" downpipes, 3" cold side to the intercooler, and 3.5" from the cooler to the motor. The engine bay got a little love too with new fender aprons and frame rails forward of the front plate so we could put the radiator back in the stock location. It also got a new coat of paint, too.

So far it is a blast on 15psi! It might see a dyno in the future, it might not. One thing is for sure, it will get beaten on the street and driven like crazy!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/Twinturbo.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/intercooler2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/intercooler3.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/interior2.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/interior-1.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/engine.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/twins-1.jpg


Same old junker on the outside!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/2012-08-01_11-13-45_517.jpg

[Prince Valiant]

What do you think it'll turn on "street trim" w/ pump gas?

[Want_Notch]

Awesome!

How is the exhaust routed after it goes into the fenders?

[Josepy]

I love it. Digging the procharger bypass.

[FourEyedFord]

Thanks guys! The exhaust just exits out in front of the front tire, reson being less tubing and fab work that way, lol. It isn't that loud at all, and it doesn't smell half as bad inside the car as the old setup did with the dump to the rear axle. Doesn't get as hot inside either.

(Pic during the building stages. It is wrapped and painted now)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/downpipe-1.jpg

[FourEyedFord]

What do you think it'll turn on "street trim" w/ pump gas?

Don't know! I know for sure it is slower than the old setup though, haha.

[Want_Notch]

Ah...That makes sense. Great work!

[Irish]

Looks good!

[SSDude]

Lookin bad ass! What does the grenade do for you??

[-stew-]

Thanks guys! The exhaust just exits out in front of the front tire, reson being less tubing and fab work that way, lol. It isn't that loud at all, and it doesn't smell half as bad inside the car as the old setup did with the dump to the rear axle. Doesn't get as hot inside either.

(Pic during the building stages. It is wrapped and painted now)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/downpipe-1.jpg


Um, no springs?

[Adamsy87]

Um, no springs?

Picture taken during mock up....

[noeggs4u]

Saw it on barker road yesterday. Sounds nice.

[FourEyedFord]

Picture taken during mock up....

lol

[FourEyedFord]

Saw it on barker road yesterday. Sounds nice.

Thanks!

[03Mach1]

Very cool, I always liked you car.

[Prince Valiant]

Saw it at Gus's today...Looked sharp. My dad got a kick out of seeing it roll by :)

[BOSS LX]

Twin blowers??

[Wagonbacker9]

The fact that the word "milder" was used in this amuses me.

[Moparjim]

Two thumbs up lol. Love the exhaust in particular, it screams street car lol!

[FourEyedFord]

Twin blowers??

Love hearing that one....


The fact that the word "milder" was used in this amuses me.

You must have never seen the old setup. ;)


Two thumbs up lol. Love the exhaust in particular, it screams street car lol!

Thanks! It isn't the most ideal exhaust for a street car, but it is pretty quiet for what it is. I was going for simplicity, and the exhaust side doesn't get much better than what I got in that department.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP-_RShiEfk&feature=plcp

[FourEyedFord]

Saw it at Gus's today...Looked sharp. My dad got a kick out of seeing it roll by :)

Thanks! Were you over at the wagon where the "night club" was at, lol?

[Prince Valiant]

Thanks! Were you over at the wagon where the "night club" was at, lol?Ha...naw, you passed us in a rusty wrangler.

[FourEyedFord]

Ha...naw, you passed us in a rusty wrangler.

Ah, they were getting down over there!

[Adamsy87]

Ah, they were getting down over there!

Brown chicken brown cow....

[FourEyedFord]

Brown chicken brown cow....

You know you wanted a piece of that action!

[BlackLightning]

no bullhorns out the fenders wtf????

j/k. looks badass and even though it may be milder I bet it is still a beast on the street.

[Want_Notch]

Are you planning on coming through the fender (flush...no bullhorns) or is it going stay this way?

[FourEyedFord]

Are you planning on coming through the fender (flush...no bullhorns) or is it going stay this way?

It's going to stay that way, don't really want them shooting out the side. It doesn't fill the car with exhaust, and it's plenty quiet to drive so it's fine by me. Drove it a lot without issue the last couple weeks.

[Wagonbacker9]

we must have very different definitions of "plenty quiet". Props to you. lol

[FourEyedFord]

we must have very different definitions of "plenty quiet". Props to you. lol

Whatever you say, lol. Prince, you heard it, is it obnoxious?

[BOSS LX]

When things are said like "plenty quiet", you guys need to remember what you are talking about. This is a 1000+ horsepower capable car that has no trouble cruising through rush hour traffic.

[FourEyedFord]

Yep! I didn't mean it as it sounds like a factory car with the basics, intake/exhaust/cam.

[WhatsADSM]

I love the new setup! At the end of the day it is likely nearly as fast as the old one, but has way more response and far better street manners. Twin 60s is still a lot of horsepower potential!

[-stew-]

Why a Carb?

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[DurtyKurty]

Why a Carb?

:popcorn

[twicks69]

Because it is easy, and he has experience with it. [\POP]

Looks great Bobby!! Badass 8-second ride right there!

[Adamsy87]

Why a Carb?

Why not use a carb?

[FourEyedFord]

Thanks guys! The twins are WAY more responsive than the single! I wanted something that had usable power, so that worked out perfect. The twin 60s are plenty capable of 8 second passes if I choose to put good gas back in it, too. I had the choice of upgrading these to 67s for $100 a piece, but declined because they would have flowed more than the 88mm did....that would have kind of counteracted the whole turning the car down idea, lol.

As for the carb, somebody told they work well!

[Moparjim]

I believe the technical term coined on this very board by I forget who, maybe BOSSLX (I apologize if your not the guilty party lol) is:

"BLOW-THROUGH-BULLSHIT"!!!

[Moparjim]

As for the exhaust, I love it lol. Its probably just as quiet as anything exiting the fender (which really isnt that much more pipe to quiet it down), maybe quieter because its contained under the hood and pointed down, not out the side of the car directly at neighboring lanes of traffic! Its also super simple which is a bonus when it was made or when it needs to be worked on, didn't require bodywork, and is HIDDEN from outside view unlike a pipe hanging out the fender lol.

Heck when it comes down to it my Viper probably only has a couple feet more pipe in my side exit system behind the door...

[BOSS LX]

I believe the technical term coined on this very board by I forget who, maybe BOSSLX (I apologize if your not the guilty party lol) is:

"BLOW-THROUGH-BULLSHIT"!!! Yep, it was me! After a few years of serious issues with one of the two biggest and most expensive efi systems out there I put some blowthru bowlshit on the car for the newest combo. It was either that, or take a shotgun too the BS3. Combo is new, dyno next week, but so far so good!

No photoshop here!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1001/bcm1111111111.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/bcm1111111111.jpg/)

[FourEyedFord]

I believe the technical term coined on this very board by I forget who, maybe BOSSLX (I apologize if your not the guilty party lol) is:

"BLOW-THROUGH-BULLSHIT"!!!

Always has been, always will be!


As for the exhaust, I love it lol. Its probably just as quiet as anything exiting the fender (which really isnt that much more pipe to quiet it down), maybe quieter because its contained under the hood and pointed down, not out the side of the car directly at neighboring lanes of traffic! Its also super simple which is a bonus when it was made or when it needs to be worked on, didn't require bodywork, and is HIDDEN from outside view unlike a pipe hanging out the fender lol.

Heck when it comes down to it my Viper probably only has a couple feet more pipe in my side exit system behind the door...

Yep! I didn't really want it pointing at traffic, and doing it this way sure made things simple and hidden! Not to mention it doesn't get as hot in the car, and the car can sit lower without any ground clearance issues. I think people will be surprised.

[FourEyedFord]

Yep, it was me! After a few years of serious issues with one of the two biggest and most expensive efi systems out there I put some blowthru bowlshit on the car for the newest combo. It was either that, or take a shotgun too the BS3. Combo is new, dyno next week, but so far so good!

No photoshop here!
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1001/bcm1111111111.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/bcm1111111111.jpg/)

I remember 4 or more years ago, someone told me to mark there words about EFI eventually getting put on my car, lol!

[Wagonbacker9]

Whatever you say, lol. Prince, you heard it, is it obnoxious?


When things are said like "plenty quiet", you guys need to remember what you are talking about. This is a 1000+ horsepower capable car that has no trouble cruising through rush hour traffic.


Yep! I didn't mean it as it sounds like a factory car with the basics, intake/exhaust/cam.

Having not heard it I probably shouldn't comment, I just can't imagine how a couple feet of pipe dumped off the turbo is anything but deafening. Either way, looks freckin bad ass, so I guess it doesn't matter anyway!

[FourEyedFord]

Having not heard it I probably shouldn't comment, I just can't imagine how a couple feet of pipe dumped off the turbo is anything but deafening. Either way, looks freckin bad ass, so I guess it doesn't matter anyway!

That's the beauty of two turbos! Thanks!

[Prince Valiant]

Whatever you say, lol. Prince, you heard it, is it obnoxious?Not at all...a touch louder than the LRT, but far far far from obnoxious to these ears. Seemed quieter than Boss's car....part of that was the noisy air pump on the blue one.

[BOSS LX]

Not at all...a touch louder than the LRT, but far far far from obnoxious to these ears. Seemed quieter than Boss's car....part of that was the noisy air pump on the blue one.

There is nothing quiet about my junk. It is set on kill, and that bypass is moving a bunch of air. I found out a 40 mile round trip is about as long as I want to be in that car! lol

[xxtremeteam]

There is nothing quiet about my junk. It is set on kill, and that bypass is moving a bunch of air. I found out a 40 mile round trip is about as long as I want to be in that car! lol

But you can cover that 40 miles pretty quick

[BOSS LX]

But you can cover that 40 miles pretty quick

Not really, under full power I am sure it would blow up in about 1500'. lol

[FourEyedFord]

Not really, under full power I am sure it would blow up in about 1500'. lol

You mean 1321ft, lol!

[BOSS LX]

You mean 1321ft, lol!I figure it may live dancing on the limiter for a few hundred feet, but most likely you are closer.

[Reverend Cooper]

my wiener is tingling after seeing them pictures,What about the speed holes for heat dissapation? I will be over to help drill a million holes in it under the hood for ya lol

[Reverend Cooper]

There is nothing quiet about my junk. It is set on kill, and that bypass is moving a bunch of air. I found out a 40 mile round trip is about as long as I want to be in that car! lol


Your is fuckin retarded. Ilove it

[JOHN 86GT]

Very nice set up !!

[FourEyedFord]

Thanks guys!

[73MACH]

Looks really good!!

[FourEyedFord]

Looks really good!!

Thanks dude!

[DynoTom]

I went for a ride in this car and it's Nucking Futs ! It pulled like a mutha fucka and I know we were not even hooking at all ! Seems like cars with this kind of power I can never really get used to the feeling they give when you are into the power.

[Nickerz]

Car looks business! Love it! 8 second street car *drool*

[FourEyedFord]

Thanks a lot guys!

I drove by two Elm Grove cops on the way to work this morning and didn't get pulled over, lol! Can't be that loud if the Grove cops didn't shake me down.

[FourEyedFord]

Some new pics!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0399.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0398.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0393.jpg



Gotta do something with the old inlet hole, lol!


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0388.jpg

[Irish]

Some new pics!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0399.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0398.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0393.jpg



Gotta do something with the old inlet hole, lol!


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/IMG_0388.jpg

That car would look awesome Jalapeño Red!!

[UnderPSI]

I say you build a fake missile to put in there so it just sticks out. Could you imagine all the "double takes" you would get from people lol

[twicks69]

I think a minigun would look badass....

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[FourEyedFord]

Haha! I love listening to people talking about what the hole is there for, and it is interesting what they say! Anyone got any flat black duct tape, lol?

[Moparjim]

I love the minigun idea lol. Six or so small tubes of some sort like PVC, couple of round wood discs with holes drilled for the tubes, spray it gunmetal and mount it in there lol.

[FourEyedFord]

I would rather not draw any more attention from the law then the car already does right now!

[Adamsy87]

Gonna post the video? Car made some great power for a little homebrew turbo kit...

[FourEyedFord]

Don't know who has the video, lol!

It made 755rwhp last night at Late Model Throttle, thanks again guys for squeezing me in! Here is the graph, this was on 14psi and 19 degrees of timing on regular old Mobil 93 octane! Pay no attention to the blue line because that pull was made with 17 degrees of timing, and it's obvious it did not like that low of timing above 5900 rpm.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/2012-08-21_23-53-13_100.jpg

[Adamsy87]

On Andy's camera...

[FourEyedFord]

I will try and upload it tonight, Andy has it.

[73MACH]

Gee, that's almost 2 of my motors put together......Nice numbers!!

[UnderPSI]

Saw you guys flying by the farm last night, turned around and flew back past. No time to say hi...

[FourEyedFord]

Hahaha, we were doing some test pulls! I was worried about waking people up and cops getting called so I was trying to make them quick, lol!

[Irish]

Don't know who has the video, lol!

It made 755rwhp last night at Late Model Throttle, thanks again guys for squeezing me in! Here is the graph, this was on 14psi and 19 degrees of timing on regular old Mobil 93 octane! Pay no attention to the blue line because that pull was made with 17 degrees of timing, and it's obvious it did not like that low of timing above 5900 rpm.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b208/YellowNotch/2012-08-21_23-53-13_100.jpg

Nice! When is Boss going to dyno his new combo?

[Adamsy87]

Nice! When is Boss going to dyno his new combo?

Should have his car to the dyno by next week!

[Reverend Cooper]

where is that gonna be at

[DynoTom]

where is that gonna be at

X2... I wanna stop out that see the dyno !

[UnderPSI]

Car sounded really good! sounded like those gears streached out forever!

[FourEyedFord]

Car sounded really good! sounded like those gears streached out forever!


Thanks! That's because all I was doing was putting it in high gear, powerglide, and giving her, lol! Low gear is useless.

[UnderPSI]

To be honest, I have no idea how powerglides work or how they are set up ect. I'm sure a ride in your car will solve that for me though...

[-stew-]

To be honest, I have no idea how powerglides work.

Magnets.

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[FourEyedFord]

To be honest, I have no idea how powerglides work or how they are set up ect. I'm sure a ride in your car will solve that for me though...

Haha, will do!