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Bobby "Big Daddy" Flay
07-20-2012, 05:59 AM
Talk about nuts. Guy opens fire in a movie theater killing 14 and wounding up to 50 more. http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/163155186.html

Additional live video from theater customer on Youtube. guy comes out covered with a bloody shirt.

STANMAN
07-20-2012, 06:58 AM
Some people should never even get a trial. And the killer was just waiting by his car after it was all over for the cops to come, what a lunatic. Now we all get to hear the diatribe about how guns are evil, how violent movies are evil, how society today drives people to do this because he wasn't loved enough as a child, blah, blah, blah. Some people are just bad people, it has nothing to do with anything else.

BR3W CITY
07-20-2012, 11:28 AM
wtf is with the "gas cannister" he threw?
And the even more confusing part....how was no one in a CO theater carrying a gun....that state has WAY more cc people then we do, and their law is more forgiving.

badass88gt
07-20-2012, 11:35 AM
What a tragedy. There are so many things wrong with this situation I don't know where to begin...

BigSnailBuick
07-20-2012, 03:26 PM
I have been defending guns on facebook since I woke up. I have come to the conclusion trying to respond to people that think CCW armed citizens would have only caused more deaths is pointless. A mind that thinks that way is too gone for me to save.

Prince Valiant
07-20-2012, 04:23 PM
I have been defending guns on facebook since I woke up. I have come to the conclusion trying to respond to people that think CCW armed citizens would have only caused more deaths is pointless. A mind that thinks that way is too gone for me to save.here's the deal...say a CCW guy DID accidently shoot an innocent caught in the cross-fire? But, he got the crazed gunman after he had only killed 3 and shot 20.

That still means there would be 8 more alive and 50 less people in the hospital today than there are now. Sure, it'd have been tragic that someone (or two or three) would have died in the cross-fire, but how is that any less tragic than what happened?

BigSnailBuick
07-20-2012, 05:04 PM
here's the deal...say a CCW guy DID accidently shoot an innocent caught in the cross-fire? But, he got the crazed gunman after he had only killed 3 and shot 20.

That still means there would be 8 more alive and 50 less people in the hospital today than there are now. Sure, it'd have been tragic that someone (or two or three) would have died in the cross-fire, but how is that any less tragic than what happened?


Exactly!!....and I don't know about some people....but I'm not taking a shot unless its fairly clear. And even shitting my pants shaking in fear my muscle memory from shooting is not going to make me go from a bullseye shooter to missing over a foot dropping randoms left and right. He is getting hit and even with body armor is going to be re-thinking what he has to do. Time spent thinking would have saved a few people from harm. Everyone can play the hero scenario out but the solid fact is nothing about exchanging fire would have been negative.

hotrod96z28
07-20-2012, 06:04 PM
wtf is with the "gas cannister" he threw?
And the even more confusing part....how was no one in a CO theater carrying a gun....that state has WAY more cc people then we do, and their law is more forgiving.

The theater was posted against ccw. So no law abiding citizen had their protection on them.

Rocket Power
07-20-2012, 08:17 PM
In Colorado the signs do not have the force of law, unless otherwise prohibited by statute. So technically they could ignore the sign and still be law abiding.

OxmanWI
07-20-2012, 08:23 PM
The thing that really pisses me off (other than the people who died) is that the guy is going to sit in a jail cell for a long time while the tax payers pay for it....

Colorado does have the death penalty, but how many years is that James guy going to sit in prison while the tax payers pay for his meals, heath and cost of living on death row? This is why we should bring back public hanging and the electric chair. Show these sick fucks what happens when you kill other people. If you are 100% guilty of your murder crime, you should be put to death the day after your trial. But welcome to America, murder someone and get free A/C, meals, TV, heathcare and a workout room for a life sentence. This country is totally fucked...

HITMAN
07-20-2012, 08:29 PM
wtf is with the "gas cannister" he threw?
And the even more confusing part....how was no one in a CO theater carrying a gun....that state has WAY more cc people then we do, and their law is more forgiving. I'm thinking the gas cannister was tear gas and he was said to have had a gas mask. It is quite possible that he thought about the armed citizen situation and used the tear gas to negate some of the risk. You cant shoot what you cant see, especially when you are also choking and just trying to draw breath without vomiting your guts out. I'm in no way praising this guy's ingenuity, but if this is what and why he did it, you do have to admit it was a well thought out plan. Intelligent and diabolical...he must be the Joker...



The theater was posted against ccw. So no law abiding citizen had their protection on them.
Apparently, the shooter couldn't read that sign. I know I'm in violation when I do it, but depending on the where and the when, I choose to play ignorant with those signs.

HITMAN
07-20-2012, 08:51 PM
The thing that really pisses me off (other than the people who died) is that the guy is going to sit in a jail cell for a long time while the tax payers pay for it....

Colorado does have the death penalty, but how many years is that James guy going to sit in prison while the tax payers pay for his meals, heath and cost of living on death row? This is why we should bring back public hanging and the electric chair. Show these sick fucks what happens when you kill other people. If you are 100% guilty of your murder crime, you should be put to death the day after your trial. But welcome to America, murder someone and get free A/C, meals, TV, heathcare and a workout room for a life sentence. This country is totally fucked...

This is our slow crawl toward European Socialism. According to most people thus inclined, we are the only "civilized" western nation to still not have socialized medicine and to still execute it's scumbags. We should, instead, just put them in jail no matter how heinous the crime. Like the Norwegian Spree Killer, Anders Behring Breivik. He killed 77 people and wounded around 200. He'll get life, maybe... Bunch of fucking douche nozzles. They should saw his head off with a dull steak knife on world wide TV. I can think of a couple of countries full of fanatics that would be glad to do it for free...

Reverend Cooper
07-20-2012, 08:59 PM
another perfect reason if you are a business owner to put a no CCW sticker in the window,you wouldnt want a "good guy" having a weapon in this situation.
like i told ben its easy to be the bully and shoot at everyone knowing they cant shoot back,give one person a gun and have a few fly buy you and not even hit you and see how big of a bully you are. chances are even if he wasnt shot he would have took off running like a bitch,thats what bullies do when the bully factor is removed. so fuck that guy that shot the people up i bet they dont call him the joker in the clink,more like poker cuz he will be taking in the hiney plenty im sure.

HITMAN
07-20-2012, 09:07 PM
another perfect reason if you are a business owner to put a no CCW sticker in the window,you wouldnt want a "good guy" having a weapon in this situation.
like i told ben its easy to be the bully and shoot at everyone knowing they cant shoot back,give one person a gun and have a few fly buy you and not even hit you and see how big of a bully you are. chances are even if he wasnt shot he would have took off running like a bitch,thats what bullies do when the bully factor is removed. so fuck that guy that shot the people up i bet they dont call him the joker in the clink,more like poker cuz he will be taking in the hiney plenty im sure.

Im sure he thought about all of that. A guy like this doesn't care, he's a glory hound. Before this he was just a nobody and now the whole world will know who he is. They should execute his ass without naming him and bury what's left in an unmarked grave. If there's no chance of fame then there is no point in doing the deed.

GHOSST
07-20-2012, 09:16 PM
Exactly what I told my wife, this guy is a major attention whore. Joker my ass.

+1 for "poker" in the pin, all he's gonna get.

GTSLOW
07-20-2012, 09:26 PM
Heart breaking, unreal, just speechless....

Now the guy has "lawyer up" and is not speaking. :wtf Stick a needle in that fuckers arm and let it be done.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48256829/displaymode/1247/?beginSlide=1

PureSound15
07-20-2012, 10:06 PM
Death Penalty State? Move this piece of shit to the front of line.

Even better - remove these "humanity" requirements that state we much kill this person in a less torturous way. This man has removed precious people from this earth, memories from families that will never happen and children that will never have the potential to grow into something great.

Torture him. Make it public. Remove the idea from all of those who may ever believe this to be a "good" idea regardless of their beliefs or mental stability.

smokin'red35th
07-20-2012, 10:49 PM
Screw those anti-gun signs. they have no weight and the most the owner can do is ask you to leave and get you for trespassing if you dont. Not an issue if you're concealed, and in a situation like this, who gives a shit? Those signs are for the sheep.

My pistol goes everywhere with me. And for those places where it's against federal law, well thats up to each individual to weigh their own risk/benefit. Personally, I think airplanes and maybe cruise ships are one of the only places the general public has no business carrying. Everywhere else, I believe it's your duty to protect yourself, your family, and in some cases, others who are too ignorant to protect themselves.

BR3W CITY
07-21-2012, 12:21 AM
fuck not carrying on a cruise ship, a boat in international waters should have no special sanctity....and besides.....pirates....arrrrrggghhhhhhhh

michelle
07-21-2012, 05:48 AM
Why were there young children at a midnight showing of a rated R movie?

moels
07-21-2012, 07:43 AM
Why were there young children at a midnight showing of a rated R movie?



Because people nowadays are fucking retarded. These are the parents who got participation ribbons when they were kids and never learned any common sense.

Gregor
07-21-2012, 03:15 PM
Skip the juice or injection, So right to "Draw and Quarter". Because if you want to split hairs his crime could be domestic terrorism. The chair and injection is way to peaceful.


He will prob go for the crazy defense, and be sent to a halfway house for the rest of his life at our expense. Maybe he will be wiped off the face of the earth going to court.

BigSnailBuick
07-21-2012, 04:21 PM
Skip the juice or injection, So right to "Draw and Quarter". Because if you want to split hairs his crime could be domestic terrorism. The chair and injection is way to peaceful.


He will prob go for the crazy defense, and be sent to a halfway house for the rest of his life at our expense. Maybe he will be wiped off the face of the earth going to court.

The sick part is some people would picket against him being treated like that. This world is so far gone with whats "acceptable". I think this guy should be immediately executed and get no trial. A trial for this man is only in an attempt to prove his innocence or sanity, which in this case is obviously not going to happen. He is 100% guilty. I don't even care if he's mentally ill, I don't want people like this on earth regardless of an illness. He can take it up with God why he was cursed with an illness that gave him no chance at being good after we throw him off a cliff.

@moels Participation Ribbons lol Sadly it is a good way to classify how people/society got to where it is now-a-days. The funny part about that is when I was a young kid I did really bad at 2 of my wrestling meets in a row. Took 4th both times (out of 4). I got some shitty 4th place ribbons and told how well I did. My parents didn't say good job! You did great!! Enjoy your ribbons, lets go get ice cream.. like some do now. It was simply a, "Good try, practice harder and get em next time." A good middle of the road thing to say and what I needed to hear. Let your children experience a little failure, I think its good for us as individuals...I was actually mad at the ribbons, all it did was make me feel like shit as a kid.. not happy and encouraging like these parents think...I actually frayed them and threw them away on the ride home. If anything that shitty flaccid ribbon ignited a fire under me. I spent everyday in practice working my ass off and went into my next meet pinning every kid in under 30 seconds, wrestling with anger power thinking about that ribbon and walked away with my Gold pin :D To which my parents laminated the bracket card and praised me for days with all the ice cream I wanted lol! Positive encouragement to do better somehow got confused over the generations with praise for failure. : /

Reverend Cooper
07-21-2012, 05:06 PM
Im sure he thought about all of that. A guy like this doesn't care, he's a glory hound. Before this he was just a nobody and now the whole world will know who he is. They should execute his ass without naming him and bury what's left in an unmarked grave. If there's no chance of fame then there is no point in doing the deed.

I'm not sure,but i think you missed the point. Being shot back at has consequences,The guy is a pussy or he would have went in with guns blazeing and no protective gear he was scared of getting hurt.. Why can't one of these have a happier ending,like a undercover cop was in the crowd.

smokin'red35th
07-21-2012, 10:43 PM
Why can't one of these have a happier ending,like a undercover cop was in the crowd.


Even better, an average citizen carrying concealed.

Reverend Cooper
07-22-2012, 12:08 AM
Or even better the 6 year old finds it strapped to the back of someone and blows the piece of shit away

That_Guy
07-22-2012, 01:53 AM
For those with the intent to see the movie and legally can carry concealed i suggest the majestic theater in waukesha. That is all I have to add. Aside from the movie being amazing.

OxmanWI
07-22-2012, 07:50 AM
I tried to search for an answer but couldn't find one. Can the Colorado Governor put this fuck in the front of the line on death row?

moels
07-22-2012, 10:09 AM
I will be seeing the movie today or tomorrow with my kids. I will CC like I always do whether the theater is posted or not. CANT = conceal and never tell. I am looking forward to the movie.

CATNHAT
07-22-2012, 10:32 AM
Some politician should sponsor a new bill declaring these acts to be domestic terrorism and perp would instantly be declared guilty and sent to die in solitary confinement living on bread and water only. No contact with the outside world in any way shape or form. No 2 year long trial and all the bullshit that goes along with it.

For now lock this guy up with jerry sandusky and the zombie face eater from florida.

Holeshot
07-22-2012, 11:35 AM
For those with the intent to see the movie and legally can carry concealed i suggest the majestic theater in waukesha. That is all I have to add. Aside from the movie being amazing.

Marcus has taken down its postings.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC

BR3W CITY
07-22-2012, 01:50 PM
its sad that it takes an act like this to get some businesses to open their eyes. Grocery store shooting -> no Aldi signs, Movie theatre shooting, ->no signs at marcus.

HITMAN
07-22-2012, 06:27 PM
I'm not sure,but i think you missed the point. Being shot back at has consequences,The guy is a pussy or he would have went in with guns blazeing and no protective gear he was scared of getting hurt.. Why can't one of these have a happier ending,like a undercover cop was in the crowd.

By your logic, a soldier wearing protective gear is a pussy, as well. :durr

This guy wanted to do massive damage and then be able to take it all in and revel in the aftermath of his own creation, not go out in a blaze of glory. You can't read about yourself in the paper or see yourself on the news if you're dead. Thats what this was all about. He went from nobody to infamous in one fell swoop. Not really that hard to figure out...

smokin'red35th
07-22-2012, 07:21 PM
Colorado has executed ONE inmate since 1976. Dont hold your breath for a quick death penalty.

That_Guy
07-22-2012, 08:58 PM
Marcus has taken down its postings.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC

I didn't see any signs and that is the only reason why I went there. It was a very smart business move on their part. If something where to happen in Wisconsin it would be law suit central.

Reverend Cooper
07-22-2012, 10:36 PM
By your logic, a soldier wearing protective gear is a pussy, as well. :durr

This guy wanted to do massive damage and then be able to take it all in and revel in the aftermath of his own creation, not go out in a blaze of glory. You can't read about yourself in the paper or see yourself on the news if you're dead. Thats what this was all about. He went from nobody to infamous in one fell swoop. Not really that hard to figure out...

Our soldiers do not open fire in movie theaters on their own soil nice logic there,this guy was scared to die either because of just that or because he was scared he couldn't revel in it,thus yes being a pussy wearing the maximun amount of protection he could knowing someone might take his bully factor away by poss. shooting back. If he was not scared if dieing for either reason he would have stepped into the theater in jeans and a t-shirt shooting. You're logic is like comparing a social worker to a pedophile,they both like kids but for different reasons.

Gregor
07-22-2012, 10:39 PM
No the politicians would argue that he wasn't justified in killing the scum bag.


What should have happened was he fired shots in the ceiling to scare everyone, at that time a CC would have drawn, with some luck a head shot, other than that a chest shot. Once the bullet hit his armor it would have knocked him down, giving the entire theater to run. I highly doubt that he would have first hand taking a shot. This chance would go up if it was a UC cop, military, or someone that wouldn't second guess his/her thoughts.

The reports had him wearing swat armor, neck guard, nut guard, and a gas mask. Anyway you cut it CC works, even if a innocent gets hit in the cross fire. One dies to save 12+........

Rocket Power
07-23-2012, 12:47 AM
I didn't see any signs and that is the only reason why I went there. It was a very smart business move on their part. If something where to happen in Wisconsin it would be law suit central.

I've never seen signs at Majestic or Ridge, which are the usual theaters I go to.

Rocket Power
07-23-2012, 12:51 AM
Once the bullet hit his armor it would have knocked him down, giving the entire theater to run. I highly doubt that he would have first hand taking a shot. This chance would go up if it was a UC cop, military, or someone that wouldn't second guess his/her thoughts.

The reports had him wearing swat armor, neck guard, nut guard, and a gas mask.......Depends how motivated he was. Seen footage of the North Hollywood shootout? They didn't fall down at the first shot.

HITMAN
07-23-2012, 01:02 AM
I've given this more thought and I've decided that I will no longer discuss what this fucking killer did as I believe it is what he wanted in the first place. I'm out.

BR3W CITY
07-23-2012, 11:23 AM
You could have taken it a step further and not bothered to post letting us know that.

03Seville
07-23-2012, 11:48 AM
Colorado has executed ONE inmate since 1976. Dont hold your breath for a quick death penalty.

Theirs 3 people in line to be executed right now in Colorado, but they said that national average of time that someone spends on death row before actually being killed is 14 years and 10 months.

What a joke..

michelle
07-23-2012, 11:49 AM
It looks like he edited his last reply after such a deep reflection.

OxmanWI
07-23-2012, 02:51 PM
Theirs 3 people in line to be executed right now in Colorado, but they said that national average of time that someone spends on death row before actually being killed is 14 years and 10 months.

What a joke..

Look at Nidal Malik Hasan the shooter at the Fort Hood shooting. His is still alive. He is getting free healthcare by the tax payers, meals and a place to sleep. He killed 13 people wounded 29 others. This guy was a Army Major! He should have been put to death by firing squad a week after, but they have to let him recover and gain his health back to stand trial. Jared Lee Loughner killed 6 people including a 6 year old child in Tucson, Arizona. He is still alive because of “Reason of insanity.” This is what our country does for murderers! Something has got to change!

BeesTwinEG
07-23-2012, 03:01 PM
some of you may should read this, it does make sense
http://www.disclose.tv/news/Colorado_Batman_shooting_shows_obvious_signs_of_be ing_staged/85620

BR3W CITY
07-23-2012, 03:28 PM
Your a fucking moron.
That entire article is nearly baseless. Who cares if someone he worked with thought he was a good guy? As for the costs of all the shit, so what? Half of us here have much larger armories than that (sans bombs I would hope).
Exotic "swat' connections? Fuck off, with a stolen credit card and CheaperThanDirt you could buy 99% of that in 20 minutes.

PureSound15
07-23-2012, 03:43 PM
I agree with you and refuse to believe that a modern day government would murder its own people.

But... Because of my love for irony, I just wanted to quote this :)


Your a fucking moron.

Korndogg
07-23-2012, 04:10 PM
Exotic "swat' connections? Fuck off, with a stolen credit card and CheaperThanDirt you could buy 99% of that in 20 minutes.

This. It really isn't that hard to just go order police/military items online if you know where to look. There are places on the internet where you can pretty much get anything you want.....

OxmanWI
07-23-2012, 04:47 PM
I made this graphic to show that death row inmates and convicted murderers have freedoms in prison and the tax payers are paying for it. All we can do is raise awareness and cast a ballot and hope for legal changes when it comes to proven guilty murderers for speedy legal process. Save as and post it on your Facebook wall if you want.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h72/oxman64/murders.jpg

-stew-
07-23-2012, 06:51 PM
Who needs a stolen credit card? All you need is ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soviet-Russian-Body-Armour-6B4-Issue-Ceramic-Plates-and-Titanium-included-XLarge-/271016226441?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f19d36e89


For the record I found out this shit was on ebay when looking to buy some titanium. And for the record a 48"x48"x1" sheet of titanium goes for around $4500.

That_Guy
07-23-2012, 07:22 PM
Hell I bought an eastern German military surplus flak jacket for halloween one year. It cost 50 bucks and it was Type II. Massively outdated but for what I used it for "zombie pub crawl" it was perfect. Got it at cheaperthandirt. I would never trust it though.

Prince Valiant
07-23-2012, 07:53 PM
some of you may should read this, it does make sense
http://www.disclose.tv/news/Colorado_Batman_shooting_shows_obvious_signs_of_be ing_staged/85620

"Colorado Batman shooting shows obvious signs of being staged"


Thank YOU, Captain Obvious! Of course it was staged. Perpetrator planed the thing for months.

As far as all that other bizarre conjecture in the article, well, I guess you'd have to want to put on tin foil hats to get it....

Gregor
07-23-2012, 09:58 PM
Depends how motivated he was. Seen footage of the North Hollywood shootout? They didn't fall down at the first shot.


The crew that knocked off that bank were hardened criminals, not some gutless pussy emo bitch wanting his 15 minutes of fame.

That was when the police were carrying 9MM and .38. Shit most LA gang members carry bigger hardware than that walking their dogs.

badass88gt
07-24-2012, 04:34 AM
I found this on another forum. Being on my phone I'm not about to type out my thoughts, but I agree...

" Under the conditions that seemed to exists in that theater with him tossing a couple smoke grenades, also being in full body armor, it would probably of just worsened an already grave situation firing in that theater.. I know it sucks, cause it seems that most who carry feel that if they just had a chance to be in a situation like this, they could save the world, and get the key to the city, they would solely take out the bad guy, but that's not reality.. Most everyone who has spoke says it was total pandemonium in that theater for 2 minutes, that guy caused an awful lot of carnage in 2 minutes! Good luck stopping that with your handgun in a dark fog as a guy in body armor is firing an AR-15 w/ a 100 round clip all over the theater.."

Reverend Cooper
07-24-2012, 02:04 PM
I found this on another forum. Being on my phone I'm not about to type out my thoughts, but I agree...

" Under the conditions that seemed to exists in that theater with him tossing a couple smoke grenades, also being in full body armor, it would probably of just worsened an already grave situation firing in that theater.. I know it sucks, cause it seems that most who carry feel that if they just had a chance to be in a situation like this, they could save the world, and get the key to the city, they would solely take out the bad guy, but that's not reality.. Most everyone who has spoke says it was total pandemonium in that theater for 2 minutes, that guy caused an awful lot of carnage in 2 minutes! Good luck stopping that with your handgun in a dark fog as a guy in body armor is firing an AR-15 w/ a 100 round clip all over the theater.."
Sure but what most miss is that there were trained individuals,not only trained to return fire,but trained for stressfull situations like this,we will never know because no one could carry in the theater.At no point in time would being a hero or getting the key to the city be going threw my mind,saving others or loved one and myself would be it.
The shooter had just as much darkness to fire into,pulling a hand gun and firing back at the muzzle flash alone may have been enough. But unfortunately one will never know.

Rocket Power
07-24-2012, 02:21 PM
The crew that knocked off that bank were hardened criminals, not some gutless pussy emo bitch wanting his 15 minutes of fame.

That was when the police were carrying 9MM and .38. Shit most LA gang members carry bigger hardware than that walking their dogs. A .40 or .45 is not the Hammer of Thor that will knock people down like in the movies.

WhatsADSM
07-24-2012, 03:18 PM
some of you may should read this, it does make sense
http://www.disclose.tv/news/Colorado_Batman_shooting_shows_obvious_signs_of_be ing_staged/85620

That article makes about as much sense as drag racing a Honda.

BR3W CITY
07-24-2012, 04:54 PM
A .40 or .45 is not the Hammer of Thor that will knock people down like in the movies.

Anyone that gets hit by ANY bullet, barring the use of pcp or another dissociative, will slow if not not drop. Larger caliber, greater chances of them dropping.
A limb hit with a .45 will do more damage, in the even the person is wearing a vest.

I feel the answer is we all need to buy some FN5.7's.....I mean, if 48 layers of kevlar can't stop it, some ebay bodyarmor won't







And murray.....that was fucking hilarious.

Gregor
07-24-2012, 08:54 PM
yeah because I am sure he would have just shrugged off return fire. Most that would react would be to save themselves. If they reacted. The chances increase if the CCW was sitting in the front row.


No one knows what would have happened, but its a general idea that any return fire would have made him rethink his tactics. Any time could have spared lives. I know it sounds like a '80 action flick but hell stranger things have happened.

smokin'red35th
07-24-2012, 09:19 PM
I found this on another forum. Being on my phone I'm not about to type out my thoughts, but I agree...

" Under the conditions that seemed to exists in that theater with him tossing a couple smoke grenades, also being in full body armor, it would probably of just worsened an already grave situation firing in that theater.. I know it sucks, cause it seems that most who carry feel that if they just had a chance to be in a situation like this, they could save the world, and get the key to the city, they would solely take out the bad guy, but that's not reality.. Most everyone who has spoke says it was total pandemonium in that theater for 2 minutes, that guy caused an awful lot of carnage in 2 minutes! Good luck stopping that with your handgun in a dark fog as a guy in body armor is firing an AR-15 w/ a 100 round clip all over the theater.."

I had a conversation with a co-worker about this today. Having been on the recieving end of simunitions, which frickin hurt by the way and once you're hit with one, they might as well be lead bullets because nobody wants to experience it twice. Anyway, as you can immagine, trying to hit a target accurately while under fire is extreemly difficult. You dont have time to sit there and line up sites, you point and shoot. There is nothing conscious about it and you revert to muscle memory and training.

I cannot say what I would do if I was in that theater. Alot would depend on where I was in relation to the shooter. If My family was there, I would probably avoid showing my hand and keep my gun holstered if possible, and focus on getting my family out safe or protecting them by any means necessary.

but like I said, not having been in that situation, who knows.

Rocket Power
07-25-2012, 08:51 PM
I've been shot with simunitions a bunch of times, sometimes on bare skin, and while it hurt more than paint ball and I ended up with some cuts and a scar or two, I was still able to return effective fire. While painful i don't think its close to on the level of an actual bullet.

smokin'red35th
07-26-2012, 06:09 PM
I've been shot with simunitions a bunch of times, sometimes on bare skin, and while it hurt more than paint ball and I ended up with some cuts and a scar or two, I was still able to return effective fire. While painful i don't think its close to on the level of an actual bullet.

Well of course not. My point is, when you're being shot at, it changes things. And being able to return fire effectively in that theater while being shot at, plus add in the smoke and body armor the guy was wearing, would have obviously made things alot more difficult. Not something anybody can armchair quarterback, saying what they "wouldhave done" if they werent in that situation to begin with.

pOrk
07-27-2012, 04:56 AM
Anyone seen the new theory that the shooter and the guy in court are two completely different people? Yeehaw

badass88gt
07-27-2012, 05:08 AM
Link?

VroomPshhTsi
07-27-2012, 07:38 AM
Link?

http://z6mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/james-holmes-pictures-dont-match.jpg

Prince Valiant
07-27-2012, 08:01 AM
Anyone seen the new theory that the shooter and the guy in court are two completely different people? Yeehaw


http://z6mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/james-holmes-pictures-dont-match.jpgWell, the funny thing is that IF this bizarre conspiracy theory was true, then the more likely error would be the picture lifted off the internet was not actually James Holmes, but the mug shot is....not vice versa :rolf

But you know, one would think that James Holmes mom would kinda say something like "Uh, the guy at the Arraignment was not actually my son..." or something along those lines. Or maybe they should simply google other pics of "James Holmes" the and see that the person alledged to be James Holmes and the guy sitting at the arraignment are indeed the same individuals. Ah, but conspiracist like the ones that made the photo at the link never like to think beyond their idiotic conspiracy theories...