P1 to D1and now F1C Numbers Update 9-10

[Josepy]

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Car used to have p1sc on it. Stock motor with Brute Speed blower cam and all the good valve train parts. Stock CR.
On 7-8lbs car put down 600rwhp.

Couldn't spin the p1 fast enough to feed the motor anymore and the belt slip with the 6 rib wasw terrible so off it came.

Now the car has a forged 347 in it. Prc 5.3 Heads. All good parts. Stock CR again. Same cam. D1sc 8 rib with 3.40 blower pulley. ATI super Damper. Big Red Bypass now.
Still going through twin inter coolers, Alkycontrol meth kit. Lonnie's double pumper fuel system with Hobbs switch. Car has a moser 12 bolt already. Good Drive shaft. Monster stage 3 clutch which i dont know if that will last. Hopefully heading to the dyno this week. Tom has been working his butt off to get it done. Thinking it will hit the dyno later this week. (TAOTC Coop)

Cryptic feel free to come up and video it with your fancy head gear. :)


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[GTSLOW]

Bad ass man!!!!! :rock:

[Reverend Cooper]

Taotc

[WhatsADSM]

Looks good! Keep us posted with the numbers once it gets dynod.

[Jmax611]

Sweet setup. I'm almost done putting a p600b on my cutlass. That valve I bought from you is like the last piece of the puzzle. I should be running soon as I get it. What kind of power do you think your new setup is gonna lay down? I can't wait to dyno mine.

[Josepy]

Sweet setup. I'm almost done putting a p600b on my cutlass. That valve I bought from you is like the last piece of the puzzle. I should be running soon as I get it. What kind of power do you think your new setup is gonna lay down? I can't wait to dyno mine.

Should do little over 700rwhp I think.

[Cryptic]

Tom was supposed to finish mine up next week. Maybe we could schedule for same day. (if there's enough time for two)

[Josepy]

Tom was supposed to finish mine up next week. Maybe we could schedule for same day. (if there's enough time for two)

I like the way you think.

[Korndogg]

If you guys go the same day let me know. Andy, I'll ride up with you.

[stealthy1ss]

The people over at HFC Car Club Garage need to get busy. They have just over a week to finish this thing. lol

[Josepy]

The people over at HFC Car Club Garage need to get busy. They have just over a week to finish this thing. lol


Not looking good. waiting on some fittings.

[Josepy]

It lives. Vid in first post.

[JOHN 86GT]

Nice!

[Reverend Cooper]

Awesome

[WhatsADSM]

Awwww snap!

[Josepy]

Dyno tonight. I am guessing 728hp 640tq

[WhatsADSM]

Sweet!

GL and keep us posted with a graph.

[Josepy]

Sweet!

GL and keep us posted with a graph.


Roger that. Should have some video also. Andy is bringing the RX7 as well.

[Irish]

I demand real time updates lol!

Have fun tonight! Wish I was there to witness the awesomeness!

[Josepy]

I will update real time with numbers from both car and how many beers we have gone through. LOL

[JC70SS]

hopefully that motor holds the big boost LOL!!!













J/K can't wait to see the numbers.

[Josepy]

Rx7 is on now

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[Irish]

Rx7 is on now

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Aww snap!

[Irish]

Two hours.. No update?

[Josepy]

Two hours.. No update?

Andys car just came off 400 at 4000 rpm. Fueling issue. Mine goin on meow

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[Irish]

Andys car just came off 400 at 4000 rpm. Fueling issue. Mine goin on meow

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Not enough fuel?


Cool! Keep the updates coming!

[Josepy]

Yup

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[Josepy]

636 605 @5800 so far 14 degrees timing. No meth yet.

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[Irish]

636 605 @5800 so far 14 degrees timing. No meth yet.

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Nice! How many psi?

[Josepy]

13 with some bad belt slip

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[WhatsADSM]

^^ Man you have the worst luck with belt slip. What pulley / drive setup do you have on there now?

BTW, Andy's car is making some pretty nice torque. There is a lot in it with the fueling fixed and more RPM.

[Josepy]

^^ Man you have the worst luck with belt slip. What pulley / drive setup do you have on there now?

BTW, Andy's car is making some pretty nice torque. There is a lot in it with the fueling fixed and more RPM.

641 605 final using meth to just cool iat's car is setup super safe 17 degrees timing. Terrible belt slip. 7.65 crank pulley and 3.4 blower. Happy for now. Setup is gonna change in winter to fix the small issues with shit. I will post the graph later. Needs FMIC. DIfferent inlet hat for the blower. Too many restrictions. Ride home though the torque is unreal and comes on hard and fast.

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[JC70SS]

^^ Man you have the worst luck with belt slip. What pulley / drive setup do you have on there now?

BTW, Andy's car is making some pretty nice torque. There is a lot in it with the fueling fixed and more RPM.

That is why I went N/A with some spray to come.

Nice numbers though.

[Josepy]

That is why I went N/A with some spray to come.

Nice numbers though.

Your just a quitter. I will have it figured out. Ha

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[Josepy]

WaiezmzSE80

[Josepy]

Finally got the deal squared away. This is snoops old F1C now coming back to WI. Almost no miles on it. COuld not pass the deal up. Full kit. FMIC, big red open bypass, aster bracket so I will have zero belt slip. Need to run ls2 water pump so it fits that is also coming with the kit. Hopefully have it up and running in 2-3 weeks.

[michelle]

Sweet!

[BigSnailBuick]

Finally got the deal squared away. This is snoops old F1C now coming back to WI. Almost no miles on it. COuld not pass the deal up. Full kit. FMIC, big red open bypass, aster bracket so I will have zero belt slip. Need to run ls2 water pump so it fits that is also coming with the kit. Hopefully have it up and running in 2-3 weeks.

Nice! Waits for new vids and pics :)

[Josepy]

Nice! Waits for new vids and pics :)

There will be. It will be here tomorrow. Hopefully putting it all on next week. To damn hot to even think about it.

[JC70SS]

waiting!

[Josepy]

UPS man brought gifts.

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[BR3W CITY]

Lucky I didn't run into you at dyno days, I would have told you I'm jealous and hated you :)
Thats gonna be sweet, I'm in for #'s

[Josepy]

Lucky I didn't run into you at dyno days, I would have told you I'm jealous and hated you :)
Thats gonna be sweet, I'm in for #'s

I get told I hate you all the time for other reasons so I welcome it.

[Josepy]

Some updates from this morning.
Got the old water pump out. Waiting for 160 stat for ls2 water pump. Bumper and support off.

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[BigSnailBuick]

Mmmm Shiny stuff :) I love the UPS and Fedex guy!

[Josepy]

Mmmm Shiny stuff :) I love the UPS and Fedex guy!

They have my garage code. Most of my stuff gets put in the garage. or they call my cell. any thing car related in the area always is for me anyways.

[Josepy]

Worked out in the garage til bout 2am last night. Got a little farther. Ordered some more piping. Some of it that came with the kit is damaged a little. Nothing serious I just want it all looking nice and I didn't like where the bypass was mounted either. Belt wrap on this procharger aster bracket is almost 360 degrees.

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[Irish]

Race car!! ;)

"Belt slip? What's that?"

[Josepy]

Race car!! ;)

"Belt slip? What's that?"

You guys use the race car term so loosely.

Belt slip is what yours did when you and waver lived together. :)

[Irish]

You guys use the race car term so loosely.

Belt slip is what yours did when you and waver lived together. :)

Low blow Joe.

[Josepy]

Small update. In the final stretch.

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[*SNOOP*]

Ballin!!

[Josepy]

Ballin!!

Hope to have it running tomorrow night.

[GTSLOW]

Holy chit that is a big intercooler.

[Josepy]

Holy chit that is a big intercooler.

Yeah 32x12x4

[Josepy]

It RUNS

PVuQC4nJiz4

[WhatsADSM]

Get it tuned and lets see some acceleration vids!

[Reverend Cooper]

man that thing sounds incredible

[*SNOOP*]

Nice!! Can't wait to see it go!!

[Josepy]

Nice!! Can't wait to see it go!!

Kind of funny your old blower is back in town. Weird how that works out sometimes.

[Josepy]

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[Yooformula]

fuck that sounds badass! congrats on getting it done!

[Irish]

It RUNS

PVuQC4nJiz4

Sounds pretty stout!

[Josepy]

fuck that sounds badass! congrats on getting it done!

Thanks Yoo. Once it is all done I need to bring it by for another cleaning. I also need to make the screen that I am putting in to cover up the bumper cover hole. Buddy of mine is going to make brackets so i can put the fogs back in as well.

[nismodave]

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[SLOWC5]

I'm excited to see the numbers Joe, Good work. The car sounds Badass

[Josepy]

Powder coated valve covers with -12 an fittings welded in for catch can.

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[*SNOOP*]

Whats up with this thing?

[Josepy]

Whats up with this thing?

I am fixin a couple of small items. Should be hitting the rollers friday.

[Josepy]

Hitting the rollers on friday. Guesses on numbers. I am not even sure on the boost number. My guess is 15-17lbs.

[UnderPSI]

I also need to make the screen that I am putting in to cover up the bumper cover hole..

I never had an issue with stuff getting in my TA after cutting out the plate hole. I don't think you would need a screen. Car looks bad ass with that set up. Prolly going to make some decent power!

[Josepy]

I never had an issue with stuff getting in my TA after cutting out the plate hole. I don't think you would need a screen. Car looks bad ass with that set up. Prolly going to make some decent power!

not worried about stuff getting in. I hate how it looks.

[UnderPSI]

I suppose you have a black car, it stands out more.

[Josepy]

I suppose you have a black car, it stands out more.

yeah i like the clean look. Well can't go friday to the dyno now anyways. Damn thing made 26lbs on the street tonight. Time for a bigger pulley.

[stealthy1ss]

Hitting the rollers on friday. Guesses on numbers. I am not even sure on the boost number. My guess is 15-17lbs.

825whp with 26lbs of boost :rolf and 725whp on 16lbs.

[Josepy]

825whp with 26lbs of boost :rolf and 725whp on 16lbs.

LOL not running it at 26lbs. Trying to find another pulley.

[Josepy]

16lbs boost. 15 degrees timing. 3rd pull turned the meth on low.

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[DNT H8]

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Thats Army for holy shit!! lol

[WhatsADSM]

Nice #s!

[Josepy]

Thanks it's pretty mental. It had more in it but Tom has it tuned prety damn safe and we said that is enough.

[Waver]

Damn! Really nice numbers Joe!

[BAD LS1]

Yeah i didnt think id actually have to limit it to number lol. i just honestly think its at the end of the rope of pump gas, so why pushit? The 80# injectors (technically 101# @ 58 +psi) are at 83% DC and i dont like to use the meth as a crutch. Honestly, with going for it with the meth and 20+ degrees of timing, it would be damn near 900. It was just touching 17 psi (221kpa) by 6300 RPM. Right off the street tune it made 768 with 14 degrees timing and 10.8 afr. Leaned to 11.1 and moved to 15 degrees it gained about 30 hp, then the meth added about another 15. best part is, it drove home under its own power afterward!

[Irish]

Yeah i didnt think id actually have to limit it to number lol. i just honestly think its at the end of the rope of pump gas, so why pushit? The 80# injectors (technically 101# @ 58 +psi) are at 83% DC and i dont like to use the meth as a crutch. Honestly, with going for it with the meth and 20+ degrees of timing, it would be damn near 900. It was just touching 17 psi (221kpa) by 6300 RPM. Right off the street tune it made 768 with 14 degrees timing and 10.8 afr. Leaned to 11.1 and moved to 15 degrees it gained about 30 hp, then the meth added about another 15. best part is, it drove home under its own power afterward!

Nice numbers Joe! If you have reached the limits of pump gas, any chance of an E85 tune?

[Josepy]

Nice numbers Joe! If you have reached the limits of pump gas, any chance of an E85 tune?

Nope. Car still gets lows 20's mpg as is. Runs perfect. That and I do not like having to fill up at specific gas stations. Or If I go on a trip having to plan out pit stops. Car drives like stock outta boost.

[Yooformula]

Fucking awesome!

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[Irish]

Nope. Car still gets lows 20's mpg as is. Runs perfect. That and I do not like having to fill up at specific gas stations. Or If I go on a trip having to plan out pit stops. Car drives like stock outta boost.

Bitchin! If you ever change your mind, you could put both tunes on a switch, say if you wanna throw some big n' littles on at the track and turn up the wick!

I forget, are you still on the stock 10 bolt?

[Josepy]

Bitchin! If you ever change your mind, you could put both tunes on a switch, say if you wanna throw some big n' littles on at the track and turn up the wick!

I forget, are you still on the stock 10 bolt?

I don't go to the track. If i want to go e85 i need new injectors yet again. As of now no plans to do it. Car runs perfect as is.

Moser 12bolt 33 spline 3.73 gears.

[WhatsADSM]

Yeah i didnt think id actually have to limit it to number lol. i just honestly think its at the end of the rope of pump gas, so why pushit? The 80# injectors (technically 101# @ 58 +psi) are at 83% DC and i dont like to use the meth as a crutch. Honestly, with going for it with the meth and 20+ degrees of timing, it would be damn near 900. It was just touching 17 psi (221kpa) by 6300 RPM. Right off the street tune it made 768 with 14 degrees timing and 10.8 afr. Leaned to 11.1 and moved to 15 degrees it gained about 30 hp, then the meth added about another 15. best part is, it drove home under its own power afterward!

Small note.

The effective injector size doesn't change like that in a forced induction car. The injector may have 58psi of fuel pressure in it, but it has 17psi of charge pressure to spray into. That puts you right back at 42psi where the 80# injector is rated.

[BAD LS1]

Small note.

The effective injector size doesn't change like that in a forced induction car. The injector may have 58psi of fuel pressure in it, but it has 17psi of charge pressure to spray into. That puts you right back at 42psi where the 80# injector is rated.


Tooner fight! bahahahah

It has a rising rate FPR 1:1 58 PSI base. Its just the math in the PCM makes that injector out to be a 101# @ 58PSI above 80 KPA. With the 17 PSI rise in pressure of fuel psi to combat the 17 psi manifold pressure, in my head anyway all comes back to what things are like around that 58 psi mark again. I could be all wrong too.

[SLOWC5]

Awesome numbers Joe, Once I get my diff back together ill have to run it on the dyno again!!

Congrats, I'm sure its great to be driving the car again

[Josepy]

Awesome numbers Joe, Once I get my diff back together ill have to run it on the dyno again!!

Congrats, I'm sure its great to be driving the car again

Yeah it is nice just driving it again. Seeing what it does was an added bonus. Still has a bunch left in it but shit it runs so good doesnt pay to go any higher.

[PureSound15]

Yeah it is nice just driving it again. Seeing what it does was an added bonus. Still has a bunch left in it but shit it runs so good doesnt pay to go any higher.

Not to mention it wouldn't be worth it for a street car. I think having that kind of power and filling it up at the pump is pretty badass.

Happy to see it finished!

[WhatsADSM]

Tooner fight! bahahahah

It has a rising rate FPR 1:1 58 PSI base. Its just the math in the PCM makes that injector out to be a 101# @ 58PSI above 80 KPA. With the 17 PSI rise in pressure of fuel psi to combat the 17 psi manifold pressure, in my head anyway all comes back to what things are like around that 58 psi mark again. I could be all wrong too.

Mah bad... I thought the 58psi was not base pressure, but after the rising rate. Sounds like he is running 58psi base + the rising rate (which BTW is pretty high fuel pressure!)

Basic premise is that the injector size depends on the value you use for the base pressure. However 101# is still not the right number... not sure where that is coming from?! Injectors are rated at 43.5psi (3bar). So if they are rated as 80# injectors @ 43.5 base pressure, then they would be rated at roughly 92# injectors at 58psi base.

[BAD LS1]

Mah bad... I thought the 58psi was not base pressure, but after the rising rate. Sounds like he is running 58psi base + the rising rate (which BTW is pretty high fuel pressure!)

Basic premise is that the injector size depends on the value you use for the base pressure. However 101# is still not the right number... not sure where that is coming from?! Injectors are rated at 43.5psi (3bar). So if they are rated as 80# injectors @ 43.5 base pressure, then they would be rated at roughly 92# injectors at 58psi base.

I'll have to show you where that 101 example comes from and get plugged in next time we are both at the Dyno.

[nismodave]

Congrats Joe.....Nice Job Tom and West Bend Dyno!

[stealthy1ss]

So what were the gains compared to the old blower?

[Josepy]

So what were the gains compared to the old blower?

A lot with only 3 more lbs of boost. Like another 130 plus to the tire.

[stealthy1ss]

A lot with only 3 more lbs of boost. Like another 130 plus to the tire.

:wooo:wooo:wooo:wooo

Nice work!

[BR3W CITY]

beasty figures man.

[Josepy]

thanks guys. graph

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[Haulin' Oates]

Holy crap, good work!

[WhatsADSM]

Good old prochargers; spin to win! Peak torque at 6k ;) That thing has to be stupid fast in the upper Rs. I want a ride!

Not that the car really needs any more power, but how high can you take that engine? With even a hundred or two more rpm you would have clipped the magic 800.

[Josepy]

Good old prochargers; spin to win! Peak torque at 6k ;) That thing has to be stupid fast in the upper Rs. I want a ride!

Not that the car really needs any more power, but how high can you take that engine? With even a hundred or two more rpm you would have clipped the magic 800.


LOL in my eyes it made 810. I am not counting the correction factor crap. lol

Limiter is at 6500. I am sure if we spun it there it would of made more but I really didn't care. Yeah we can do a ride. LMK the next time your out tuning at the dyno.

[BAD LS1]

^^^ we spun it to 6300 rpm in previous runs and it made 17 psi on the dot then, 6100 is was a little over 16 psi, that 787 is the WCF #, the raw # was 810. rev limit is set to 6600, id have no qualms about spinning it to 6500, its got rods with L19 bolts in it, it can take it.

[Josepy]

^^^ we spun it to 6300 rpm in previous runs and it made 17 psi on the dot then, 6100 is was a little over 16 psi, that 787 is the WCF #, the raw # was 810. rev limit is set to 6600, id have no qualms about spinning it to 6500, its got rods with L19 bolts in it, it can take it.

And throw some more timing at it. It has room for it. :)

Always next year.

[Waver]

I am almost afraid about what the numbers would be at with it tuned to kill.....not that far away from 1,000 hp

[BAD LS1]

I am almost afraid about what the numbers would be at with it tuned to kill.....not that far away from 1,000 hp

Nah it would need 20 psi to do that at min. id guess all strung out on 17 psi it would get to the 875 mark.

[Josepy]

Nah it would need 20 psi to do that at min. id guess all strung out on 17 psi it would get to the 875 mark.

Yeah and the bone stock never touched t56 is already living on borrowed time.

[Waver]

I will say this, that blower is extremely loud! Couldn't hear your exhaust over it!

[FourEyedFord]

Congrats! Lots of high HP boosted pump gas cars in the area!

[Josepy]

Congrats! Lots of high HP boosted pump gas cars in the area!

Seems like everyone just keeps going bigger.

[FourEyedFord]

Seems like everyone just keeps going bigger.

Yeah, but for the most part, going north of 800 at the tire is pretty much useless on the street. Unless you plan on racing from a 70 mph + roll, or you like doing rolling burnouts, lol.

[Josepy]

I like the burnout part.

[FourEyedFord]

I like the burnout part.

It's cool until someone with half the horsepower takes you out, lol!

[Josepy]

It's cool until someone with half the horsepower takes you out, lol!

I could care less. Anybody that knows me will say that as well.

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[nismodave]

I could care less. Anybody that knows me will say that as well.

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that is the truth