taxes are coming soon :)

[lilws6]

Now i'm seriously thinking about putting a cam in the car. I'm lost as to what i should go with for the longest time i wanted a trex cam because i loves the way it sounds but it just doesn't seem practical. been looking at texas speed and maybe thinking ms3 or ms4. I'm also starting to lean more toward trying the car out on the twisty roads more than the straight line track so i don't need anything huge. Last question i'll probably geting a cam package. Do i want single springs or dual valve springs whats the difference benefits between them?

[GTSLOW]

Texas speed torquer v2

I know that's what's going in mine along with the tsp dual spring kit.

[Wagonbacker9]

Texas speed torque v2

This is what I have...

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/Wagonbacker9/th_MVI_0002.jpg (http://s921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/Wagonbacker9/?action=view&current=MVI_0002.mp4)

I'm running PAC 1510 max .650 lift single springs on factory retainers. Dual springs are needed for a cam with a higher ramp rate (e.g. Torquer V3). The cam you purchase should tell you if you require a dual spring. If you go that way, you also have to change out valve seals and seats, as well as retainers... this makes the package substantially more expensive.

[lilws6]

that sounds sexy as all hell! what lsa?

[lilws6]

the other ? what pushrod lengths do i need?

[Wagonbacker9]

the other ? what pushrod lengths do i need?

112 lsa. I put in standard length rods in my all stock LS2. nothing in your mod list indicates you'd need anything but that... but its always safest to check. If I were you I'd order stock length and make sure its right with the checker. I'd assume they'd exchange for the cost of shipping.

[lilws6]

wish my second w2 would come already i'm getting anxious :)

[BAD LS1]

usually 7.400" + - .005" Double springs with that big of a cam will give the best high RPM control.

[JC70SS]

Do yourself a favor. Have Patrick G on LS1tech spec you a cam. All of those cams are stupid big and without being a track car or freeway racer I would avoid them. Something like a 224/230 or 228R from TSP is fine. You can get that 228R ground on a 110LSA. What gears do you have? Heads?

[lilws6]

stock heads 4.11 moser

[lilws6]

you tubing some 228r cams i still like the sound. and they look to get 45-50hp out of them and i could still run single springs or should i just spend the extra $100 on the doubles?

[BAD LS1]

If it doesnt need to spend alot of time north of 6,000, go with the singles. It just ensures valve events stays sequential with the doubles and keeps making power up high with these motors. the SLP headers (i think is what you have?) will hinder the power output slightly, can probably count on right around 400 to the wheels with the bigger cams.

[lilws6]

kooks long tubes. I don't usually hang it about 6,000 if i do its at the strip for a couple runs. Maybe once and a while smoking the tires :)

[lilws6]

Also looks like everyone is going with the 112 lsa or 110 what does that do with the power band bring it down at all or is it all pretty much up top?

[BAD LS1]

the 112-110 will have the lopiest idle and be the 110 will be the hardest to make idle 100% stable in all conditions. it will shift the rpm of the power band lower by 200 rpm or so between the 2.

[BR3W CITY]

I'm running 111lsa on a TSP Tsunami (pretty much the biggest they offer before you have to flycut on unmilled heads). On my 6.0 it idles at about 790rpm, bouncer very little for how radical the cam is. The only thing i will say is
a. coming down from freeway speeds to idle sometimes requires a "blip" of the throttle, although it doesn't usually stall
b. I'm not running vacuum brakes or anything, so I'm not sure how the cam affects vacuum. Its got enough vacuum to keep the fpr working and pcv system works fine.

[Prince Valiant]

< 106 lsa right here (pats carb on the head)

[Wagonbacker9]

a good tuner can make your cam sound as lumpy or smooth as you want really. the V2 is probably on the 'big' side of what you can run on stock heads without it being a waste. being an LS1 I would probably push you to a 228R if I could pick an off-the-shelf grind for you. Thats what my buddy had in his TA, and I believe stalled and cammed, headers, maybe a couple other mods and DR's and he was pulling low 12s if I recall.

[lilws6]

Ide like to pull father into the 12's right now its very high 12 on street tires

[sloLs1]

i had a TSP TV2 on a 114lsa and that was a great cam. i bought the package with push rods and springs.... i also had the prc stage 2.5 5.3l heads all went on at the same time. a4 with a 3500 stall, that thing rip a$$! i was shocked at how hard it pulled from 3000-redline. the power band never dipped off. I could see this working well with a m6 aswell. It has a pretty good idle note even on a 114lsa. If i can, ill upload a video later of it. also if you call TSP and tell them what you have and what you want to do, they will point you in the right direction. Theyre very helpful!

[BR3W CITY]

they are pretty cool guys over there. After I went through hours of searching ls1tech for the "best" cam I just ended up calling them and talking over my setup and goals. Pretty nice guys, knew their product well.

[sloLs1]

and the video i was talking about.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4pSHm7yY9o

[lilws6]

If I could afford heads I would definitely be thinking of a bigger cam. For now tho it seems the 228r is what I'll plan on going with. If it puts me right around 400 ide be happy with the car. The other thing I need to work on is a new exhaust. I just can't work with this slp any more. To loud and didn't sound the way I want. Granted it didn't have a muffler. :)

[JC70SS]

FYI on CL there is an SLP dual/dual for sale. Quietest, yet best flowing exhaust for 4th gen.

[lilws6]

Thats the two out the one side right? Pending on my refund I've got one in mind. I've been looking at for a long time but no money to do it do we'll see

[Josepy]

I would go with the the hooker aerochamber. Best sounding on our cars imo.

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[GTSLOW]

FYI on CL there is an SLP dual/dual for sale. Quietest, yet best flowing exhaust for 4th gen.

Actually saw a cammed Camaro SS with the dual/dual yesterday. Sounded great with headers!

[JC70SS]

Thats the two out the one side right? Pending on my refund I've got one in mind. I've been looking at for a long time but no money to do it do we'll see
No, this is the optional SLP catback that the SS and Firehawk could be ordered with. It outflows any of them and is very mellow sounding. Not 2 on the left. BADLS1 had that. Hooker is good to, but I have heard it has rust issues?

[Josepy]

No, this is the optional SLP catback that the SS and Firehawk could be ordered with. It outflows any of them and is very mellow sounding. Not 2 on the left. BADLS1 had that. Hooker is good to, but I have heard it has rust issues?


Mine has not rusted at all. Best sounding IMO. I have had 7 different exhausts on my car.

[2000navyz]

ive got the tusnami cam in my car but with milled stage 2.5 ls6 heads and different pistons, idle sounds awesome. car drives great and makes power everywhere. it put down 460rwhp

[lilws6]

i want heads :( lol maybe next year :)

[SLOWC5]

We will probably be running a Cam, gaskets, install, tune special come spring time for LS powered cars.

[lilws6]

I'll be putting it in. But it will need a tune after. I asked you when you came into oreilly the other day but I forgot. How much would it cost me to tune it up after I get it all done?

[MT98Z]

Give me a call and I can get you a tune price

[lilws6]

Everything is ordered up! should see it in about a week :)

[Wagonbacker9]

Everything is ordered up! should see it in about a week :)

If you need help with the cam let me know. I've got the needed tools (lifter hold-up rods, valve spring compressor, crank pulley installer) and will help with anything on the FRONT half of the engine. With half your engine being under the cowl, you're on your own there. LOL

I hope you also ordered a new crank pulley bolt as well.

[lilws6]

No I didn't order a new crank pulley bolt I forgot about that. Who might have one I can order? I might take you up on the lifter rods. Probably work better than what I was going to use.

[Wagonbacker9]

No I didn't order a new crank pulley bolt I forgot about that. Who might have one I can order? I might take you up on the lifter rods. Probably work better than what I was going to use.

I ordered mine with the cam from TSP. Go with the ARP bolt. The rods I made are 5/16" steel... worked fine for me.

[Josepy]

Donny what exhaust did you get?

[BAD LS1]

i also have the lifter rods too Donny. And yes ^^^^ ARP crank bolt x1 billion

[lilws6]

B&B From the clips i listened too its the sound i'm looking for. Theres very few exausts that make the sound of the B&B. arp crank bolt k on it lol

[lilws6]

this is the one right? the longer one ive been reading about? http://texas-speed.com/p-128-arp-harmonic-balancer-bolt.aspx

[Wagonbacker9]

this is the one right? the longer one ive been reading about? http://texas-speed.com/p-128-arp-harmonic-balancer-bolt.aspx

Looks right. Do you have the balancer install tool?

[BAD LS1]

Yeah thats the right bolt, ive seen people get the LS7 bolt on accident before too, which is like 2" longer.

[lilws6]

I think so but if I don't I can snag it from work

[Wagonbacker9]

I think so but if I don't I can snag it from work

Where do you work that has a LS1 balancer install tool? lol

The puller i could see, but the installer? I'd be surprised.

[lilws6]

they have a pully intall tool that looks similar in size to the crank bolt i'de have to double check when i get the bolt if it'll work

[lilws6]

ordered the bolt says its for the gen 3 not for ls7 so should be the right bolt

[Wagonbacker9]

they have a pully intall tool that looks similar in size to the crank bolt i'de have to double check when i get the bolt if it'll work

The bolt is not a commonly available thread pitch so I would be surprised.. I do NOT recommend using the bolt (even the ARP) to reinstall the pulley. Theres a fair chance you'll hose the threads inside the crank.

[lilws6]

the bolt is 16mm x 2.00 correct? i'll have to check at work tomarrow if it has one of them with that thread

[Yooformula]

nice choice on the B&B! I wish I had some better vids for you, good luck though!

[lilws6]

Thanks np on the vids. i'll have to get this thing by you in the fall to polish her up a bit. Been sitting in the garage for close to a year and a half collecting dust and dirt :)

[lilws6]

The harmonic balancer installer we have at oreilly has a16x2.00 adapter so it'll work.

[lilws6]

Cam springs pushrods lower control arms and subframe connectors all came in today. Just waiting on the exhaust to show up and i can comence working on te car :) just snapped a quick pic of the cam spec sheet that i got left the cam in the oiled bag it came in.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/lilws6/1328660939.jpg

[JC70SS]

so you didnt order it on a 110LSA?

[lilws6]

i could have had it custom ground with a 110. On there website it was only available down to 111 so i figured it wasn't worth it to go with a 110 or 111

[Wagonbacker9]

I think you'll be quite happy with a 112.

[lilws6]

can't wait to get it all together. Wish my exhaust would come in soon i want to get this thing torn apart. I get impatient waiting for parts. Now all i need is a way to get it to the dyno :goof

[Wagonbacker9]

I take it you don't have HPTuners? I could check if theres a tune that would work for you on there, but I'd need you to pay me for the credits. That said, its still probably cheaper than a flatbed.

[Taetsch Z-24]

Don't need to re-flash it just to drive it...

Mine ran just fine with a LS1 flash running a LS7... "little" bit of difference...
It will be fine until it goes on a dyno.


Chris

[Josepy]

I take it you don't have HPTuners? I could check if theres a tune that would work for you on there, but I'd need you to pay me for the credits. That said, its still probably cheaper than a flatbed.

Hes doesnt want to drive it in the salt. Plus he will be buying the credit for the tune when it goes to the dyno.

[lilws6]

If i have to i'll drive it and wash it imediately when i get it back home lol. I won't flat bed it thats for sure if a buddy i knw has his trailer available i'll use that.