N. Suh ejected...thoughts?

[GTSLOW]

Comon there's no way kicking/stomping a player while there down is illegal. Get that kid back in the game.

He was catching his balance give the guy a break!

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[Wagonbacker9]

Isn't that his 4th fine this year?

[Ricky Bobby]

wish someone woulda kicked him square in the dick thats uncalled for and he wonders why hes watched closely go back to the hood this is the nfl not street ball

[animal]

i like where he said he was just trying to get his balance. lol

[Exitspeed]

Comon there's no way kicking/stomping a player while there down is illegal. Get that kid back in the game.

Are you serious? These dudes are supposed to be professionals. They get PAID to be professionals. He should be suspended for a few games. His coach shouldn't me putting up with his shit either. If the league didn't suspend him, the head coach should.

[Wagonbacker9]

Are you serious? These dudes are supposed to be professionals. They get PAID to be professionals. He should be suspended for a few games. His coach shouldn't me putting up with his shit either. If the league didn't suspend him, the head coach should.

Pretty sure that was sarcasm.

[Holeshot]

Should be suspended !

[GTSLOW]

Are you serious? These dudes are supposed to be professionals. They get PAID to be professionals. He should be suspended for a few games. His coach shouldn't me putting up with his shit either. If the league didn't suspend him, the head coach should.

LOL yes 100% sarcasm. That shit pissed me off to no extent. What had happened if the guys arm was broken or it was a little lower and landed in the inside of his elbow. Could have been much worse and on thanks giving really? Then the tool has ZERO empathy. He appologizes to his fans for "getting in the situation" but then says he's not sorry for anything else. Suspend and fine that fuck for at least 2 games. I know six figure fines have been mentioned on numerous sports channels.

[michelle]

Absolutely ridiculous.

[srt4eh]

The guy has issues....he needs a suspension and mandatory anger counseling

[GHOSST]

Those officials were just more strict than boarding school nuns, in our favor mostly though, but man they were some penalty calling nazis. Suh deserved his ejection though, he's a punk if you ask me, there is no coincidence at least one helmet comes off each game from a tackle he makes. Then acting like he's all innocent all the time, I mean if your gonna be the bad boy in the NFL, be that. Its more reputable then acting like you do NO wrong. Anyways, the Lee ejection was uncalled for, and showed me those refs were just nazis. But overall I'm glad we won against that classless team, especially the classless Suh.

[Wagonbacker9]

. Anyways, the Lee ejection was uncalled for, and showed me those refs were just nazis. But overall I'm glad we won against that classless team, especially the classless Suh.

Yeah, if I had 2 guys manhandling me down the field I'd be trying to get them off me too. Personally I felt all 3 of them should have gotten equal treatment... whatever it was.

Its clear any team officiating for the Lyons for the remainder of the year will throw the flag first and ask questions later, and I don't really blame them.

[nismodave]

Didnt Woodson Punch a guy the other week?

Where is the outrage for that?

[Ricky Bobby]

a single punch vs. suh bouncing someones head off the ground then kicking him sounds = to me not

2k-a033kBos

[Wagonbacker9]

then kicking him

with the bottom of a cleeted shoe no less...

[Ricky Bobby]

yea lee got booted for a single punch and it was 2 on 1. Grown men get a little angry stuff happens its when u get crazy is when its uncalled for im not saying lee or woodson are innocent but compared to suh and how he reacted is not even in the same ballpark

[Holeshot]

I'm beginning to see a trend here. :eek:


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[Crawlin]

He's gonna have another meeting with Goodell asking him, "ok please explain to me how I am getting all these penalties".

Awesome to have such a great story about them helping out the high school that had all their equipment stolen before the game, then to show just what type of role model the baby is. Will be easy though, some rookie full back just needs to run a chop block at the guys knees and take him out. Might send a message.

[BR3W CITY]

piece of shit team, with a piece of shit coach, piece of shit players, all together in a piece of shit city.

[DirtyMax]

His interview was one of the most ridiculous 30 seconds of someone talking that I may have ever heard and if you believe a word he says, may God have mercy on your naive soul...

[PB86MCSS]

His interview was one of the most ridiculous 30 seconds of someone talking that I may have ever heard and if you believe a word he says, may God have mercy on your naive soul...

Agreed. He might be bi-polar. I should boycott Subway as long as he is one of their spokesman too :D .

[PB86MCSS]

Double post, oops.

[GTSLOW]

Didnt Woodson Punch a guy the other week?

Where is the outrage for that?

Dave focus here, we're comparing apples to apples. The Woodson situation while wrong was much closer to what happened to Lee. The Suh situation on the other hand was completely out of hand. Also over the past year Woodson doesnt have a STACK of personal fouls and fines like Suh. Stop being a hater for once. :)

[GTSLOW]

His interview was one of the most ridiculous 30 seconds of someone talking that I may have ever heard and if you believe a word he says, may God have mercy on your naive soul...

Soooo true. Honestly I think his after game interview will actually make the situation worse. "Here Suh take 2 weeks off to think about what you did."


Also on the same token it almost worries me with their head coach not doing anything about the situation. And at times even backing the guy up blaming it on a bad call by the refs.


Did anyone else see the hands to the face and ripping off the guys helmet in the first quarter? The kid is just flat out fucking dirty. It was called on someone else across the line but just two plays before it was good ole suh removing the OT's helmet.




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[Wagonbacker9]

heard a replay of his excuses on the radio last night. If he HONESTLY expects anyone to buy that, he's off his damn rocker.

[GHOSST]

Seriously, like I said before, if your gonna be the Mayweather (1st class douche, his entire camp) of the NFL, be that. But don't try to act all innocent and dumbfounded. It makes you look that much more like a d-bag, and bi-polar.

As for the kick trend on Pack players? People are just supremely hating on the Packers right now, I mean seriously, and why, because their winning. Our team isn't full of classless d-bags, even Aaron finds a way to remain humble, and he's the best in the league right now.

[DoubleAron]

piece of shit team, with a piece of shit coach, piece of shit players, all together in a piece of shit city.
This sums it up right here, no need to carry on.

I'm sick of getting the stupid crap hole city shoved down my throat just like New Orleans.

[STANMAN]

Long time Detroit fan here. No excuse for what he did. He needs a suspension for however long it takes him to shake hands with reality. Jeff Wagner talked about it on 620 this afternoon and I told him the same thing on air. That being said, didn't a Packer get ejected first? No outrage there? Piece of shit team with a piece of shit coach in a piece of shit city, sick of hearing about how great Green Bay is........sounds stupid doesn't it? Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater people. Remember the Forrest Greg years when your illustrious Packers were the dirtiest team on the planet?

[Wagonbacker9]

Long time Detroit fan here. No excuse for what he did. He needs a suspension for however long it takes him to shake hands with reality. Jeff Wagner talked about it on 620 this afternoon and I told him the same thing on air. That being said, didn't a Packer get ejected first? No outrage there? Piece of shit team with a piece of shit coach in a piece of shit city, sick of hearing about how great Green Bay is........sounds stupid doesn't it? Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater people. Remember the Forrest Greg years when your illustrious Packers were the dirtiest team on the planet?

Haha. I heard you. Started reading your post and had a "that sounds familiar" moment.

[GTSLOW]

Long time Detroit fan here. No excuse for what he did. He needs a suspension for however long it takes him to shake hands with reality. Jeff Wagner talked about it on 620 this afternoon and I told him the same thing on air. That being said, didn't a Packer get ejected first? No outrage there? Piece of shit team with a piece of shit coach in a piece of shit city, sick of hearing about how great Green Bay is........sounds stupid doesn't it? Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater people. Remember the Forrest Greg years when your illustrious Packers were the dirtiest team on the planet?

Take a look at the replay of what happened to Lee. Being held easily 6-7 seconds after the whistle was blown by several lions players. Yet the lions player swung first but wasnt seen. To even try and compare the two situations is complety stupid. There should have been 2 or 3 players thrown out there not just Lee. Ya REALLY something to outrage over...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[PB86MCSS]

I have a feeling will get more than two games, I think 4-5 to send a message might be what happens.

[Wagonbacker9]

Take a look at the replay of what happened to Lee. Being held easily 6-7 seconds after the whistle was blown by several lions players. Yet the lions player swung first but wasnt seen. To even try and compare the two situations is complety stupid. There should have been 2 or 3 players thrown out there not just Lee. Ya REALLY something to outrage over...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Now lets ignore the fact that what both of those Lyons players was doing was VERY easily "Illegal Block to the Back" or "Holding".... and a flagrant example of it at that... They're both clearly equally guilty in my book (as stated earlier) of unsportsmanlike conduct. Very clearly they both came at Lee with an adjenda, that kind of shit doesn't happen by "accident", not for 10 seconds, by 2 people, at the same time. He made the mistake of giving them the goal of their adjenda. His bad, he was punished for it, appropriately I would argue. Davis walked away with his fist pumping, so I'm convinced there was an end-goal there.

Here is a link for the lazy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbhZJKtDJNQ

Davis even broke contact, then went back in for more. And then Williams is standing there looking at the 2 other Lyons going "wtf are you 2 DOING!?"

[Prince Valiant]

That being said, didn't a Packer get ejected first? No outrage there?Are you saying that all ejectable offenses are the same? That would be an odd way to put it...

I mean, sure...there are plenty of crimes that result in arrest too...but not necessarily the have the same "outrage" factor associated with it. Case in point (and not likening/comparing anything that occurs on a football field with any of these) say, stealing food from a grocery store to feed your family and sexually assaulting a 10 y/o kid. Sure, both are crimes that can result in arrest...but they don't evoke the same outrage.

So to answer your question, the ejectable fouls did not reach the same level in my book; both ejectable...sure. But not nearly the same.



Remember the Forrest Greg years when your illustrious Packers were the dirtiest team on the planet?Are you really trying to cite a team from 25+ years ago to make a point? If that's not the definition of grasping at straws, I don't know what is...

...I mean, do you even know what people in this thread thought about the gregg team in the first place? Are you trying to accuse someone of hypocrisy? And that team informs me of the Lions how?

[DirtyMax]

Guess the d-bag is finally kind of owning up to the fact that it was intentional. His official statement:

"In the past few hours, I have had time to reflect on yesterday’s game and I want to sincerely apologize for letting my teammates down, the organization, and especially to my fans who look to me for positive inspiration.

Playing professional sports is not a game. It is a profession with great responsibility, and where performance on and off the field should never be compromised. It requires a cal...m and determined demeanor, which cannot be derailed by the game, referee calls, fans or other players.

I want to reiterate my commitment to working to become a better player, and professional—on and off the field. My reaction on Thursday was unacceptable. I made a mistake, and have learned from it. I hope to direct the focus back to the task at hand — by winning."

[Car Guy]

^^^ Yeah I'm sure that is him talking and not his PR representative......:rolleyes:

[GHOSST]

Hahaha, yea, that statement is true... riiiight. I guess we'll see during week 17! Lets see if they bring that nonsense into your house..

[Wagonbacker9]

Are you really trying to cite a team from 25+ years ago to make a point? If that's not the definition of grasping at straws, I don't know what is...

...I mean, do you even know what people in this thread thought about the gregg team in the first place? Are you trying to accuse someone of hypocrisy? And that team informs me of the Lions how?

He got it off of WTMJ... They mentioned how once the Packers had the same reputation.

[PB86MCSS]

And players and teams did a lot of dirty crap 30-40 years ago. Raiders were always known for it, even through the 80's. So what? Doesn't make it ok now. It's too bad, the Lions were a pretty easy team to root for, besides being a division rival they are fun to watch and after being so bad for so long, easily could be darlings of the NFL. But with dirty play I guess the bathwater is being thrown out with the baby, by their own doing.

[Coops Brother]

Maybe Suh is playing the game the way it is supposed to be played, hasn't anyone
watched the NFL documentary called "Water Boy"? :rolleyes: geez....


http://youtu.be/Lw9g_RYTfE0

[STANMAN]

Packer fans, even when you agree with them it's not good enough, lol.

[STANMAN]

Are you saying that all ejectable offenses are the same? That would be an odd way to put it...

I mean, sure...there are plenty of crimes that result in arrest too...but not necessarily the have the same "outrage" factor associated with it. Case in point (and not likening/comparing anything that occurs on a football field with any of these) say, stealing food from a grocery store to feed your family and sexually assaulting a 10 y/o kid. Sure, both are crimes that can result in arrest...but they don't evoke the same outrage.

So to answer your question, the ejectable fouls did not reach the same level in my book; both ejectable...sure. But not nearly the same.


Are you really trying to cite a team from 25+ years ago to make a point? If that's not the definition of grasping at straws, I don't know what is...

...I mean, do you even know what people in this thread thought about the gregg team in the first place? Are you trying to accuse someone of hypocrisy? And that team informs me of the Lions how?

Maybe he should beat his girlfriend and get thrown in jail, or get thrown in jail for 6 years for being a repeat drug offender, or maybe get caught in a hot tub with underage girls, or maybe send pics of his dick to a reporter. Would that be better, more current, and relevant enough? All I am trying to say is that the Packers have had some bigger issues than one of their players stomping on a guy, and I don't hear about the piece of shit coach in the piece of shit city, blah, blah, blah. Truthfully that's one of the reasons although I was born and raised in WI that I could NEVER be a Packer fan, they need a reality check as much as Suh, lol.

[Prince Valiant]

Maybe he should beat his girlfriend and get thrown in jail, or get thrown in jail for 6 years for being a repeat drug offender, or maybe get caught in a hot tub with underage girls, or maybe send pics of his dick to a reporter. Would that be better, more current, and relevant enough?Hrrrmmm...I've yet to read anyone "defend" these instances. Likewise, I do remember quite a bit of outrage, particularly about Chumura.


All I am trying to say is that the Packers have had some bigger issues than one of their players stomping on a guy, and I don't hear about the piece of shit coach in the piece of shit city, blah, blah, blah.No, you're trying to make a tu quoque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque) argument...more or less the adult equivalence of the childhood playground favorite comeback "I know you are...but what am I?"

And yes, Detroit IS very much a piece of **** town. Any coach who would look the other way over such an incidence and not punish a player for this, would qualify as a piece of **** coach in my book, and for now, looks like he might be absolving himself of that responsibility (http://www.freep.com/article/20111125/SPORTS01/111125033) simply because he feels the league will fulfill his responsibility for him (lame...I'd still dole out a punishment regardless of what the league does). Most the players are alright I'm sure...but Suh is indeed a piece of **** in my book.

You say you "agreed" with them about your outrage...but then that lie was exposed when you equivocated.

[Crawlin]

I am a Packers fan, however it will be interesting to see how the people posting on here will respond to this...

http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/11/26/1921530/packers-linebacker-walden-arrested.html

It's one thing to stomp on a player out of a fit of anger, however it can be agreed that domestic violence is of that "worse" nature talked about earlier. So what Suh gets for punishment SHOULD be worse for Walden, correct?

Not trying to start an argument, just will be interestnig to see differences in penalties for on and off the field behavior

[Coops Brother]

^^^^^


Well he is spending the whole weekend in jail because Brown Co. courts are closed down for the Holiday. I would say that is a damn good start!!

[GHOSST]

Well, there's no specific details in the Walden case yet, and there aren't millions of fans particularly young children watching Walden possibly beat up his wife. All we know is what we read in the press, or what statements the police allow. Millions of fans watched Suh stomp on Dietrich-Smith during a time where your supposed to be at your most professional, setting those examples for people who look up to you. Walden should definitely get hit hard with fines if they find him guilty, but domestic violence at that caliber of professionalism isn't uncommon when your talking millions of dollars and the stresses of playing pro football. Intentionally stomping on players out of anger on the field is completely unsatisfactory any way you look at it.

I mean, if the fans really cared that much about violence they would have kept the XFL around..

[GTSLOW]

I won't jump to any conclusions about walden inocent until proven guilty right? Unless he beat her infront of millions of people and then denied it? But then again the purpose of the thread was about suh right stanman?

[BR3W CITY]

Frankly I don't give a shit if an NFL player does coke off of a stripper and beats his grandma, thats for him and the police dept to sort out, not the NFL. The NFL's concern with player activity outside of the game has started over reaching, and yet they seem to have very little control over what happens within their own walls.
Under the same head coach a few years back, didn't a Lions player get a 4-6game suspension after putting someone in the hospital for kicking them? Head coach did jack shit about it, and even had the nerve to bitch about it to the league.

I was actually hoping for the Lions to have a good season; I like Matt Stafford, and I figured it would be nice to have another bigger division rival, since MN has gone straight to shit, and the bears are the bears. Its worn off... Whoever made the Detroit - NewOrleans comparison is pretty much right on; except at least N.O. won a title.

[STANMAN]

Well, there's no specific details in the Walden case yet, and there aren't millions of fans particularly young children watching Walden possibly beat up his wife. All we know is what we read in the press, or what statements the police allow. Millions of fans watched Suh stomp on Dietrich-Smith during a time where your supposed to be at your most professional, setting those examples for people who look up to you. Walden should definitely get hit hard with fines if they find him guilty, but domestic violence at that caliber of professionalism isn't uncommon when your talking millions of dollars and the stresses of playing pro football. Intentionally stomping on players out of anger on the field is completely unsatisfactory any way you look at it.

I mean, if the fans really cared that much about violence they would have kept the XFL around..

Did you just attempt to justify beating a woman if you're a millionaire and stressed out?

[michelle]

I'm sure glad Adam isn't a millionaire...

[CATNHAT]

Sheez what the fuck is the big deal? He plays a very aggressive and violent postion. Anyone who has ever played nose tackle should know that (not that any of you ever did) and he lost his cool. I am confident there was some other shit going on prior to this.

I played college ball and there is a lot more shit going on the field then anyone knows about, unless youve been there.

He was wrong for losing his cool, but tell me which one of you guys (and lady) never lost your temper at work. If you haven't then:
a)your a pussy
b)your not passionate about your profession

[GHOSST]

Did you just attempt to justify beating a woman if you're a millionaire and stressed out?

Here we go, did I say that? Don't try to get off the subject that Suh is an asshat and your team has no class. Let me rephrase, domestic violence in pro sports in very common, especially when your talking millions, and these guys or gals not being born into money like that breeds a whole world of possible problems. We've seen worse things off the field. Now back to the topic at hand.

Suh has no class, and should be fined to infinity.

[GHOSST]

He was wrong for losing his cool, but tell me which one of you guys (and lady) never lost your temper at work. If you haven't then:
a)your a pussy
b)your not passionate about your profession

WTF? So the next time I get into it with someone at work, I should stomp a mud hole in their ass? According to you I better, if I'm passionate about enforcing the law, and not a pussy. Sweet.

[Rocket Power]

He was wrong for losing his cool, but tell me which one of you guys (and lady) never lost your temper at work. If you haven't then:
a)your a pussy
b)your not passionate about your profession
or
c) You act professional at work and not a douche like catnhat.

[GTSLOW]

Sheez what the fuck is the big deal? He plays a very aggressive and violent postion. Anyone who has ever played nose tackle should know that (not that any of you ever did) and he lost his cool. I am confident there was some other shit going on prior to this.

I played college ball and there is a lot more shit going on the field then anyone knows about, unless youve been there.

He was wrong for losing his cool, but tell me which one of you guys (and lady) never lost your temper at work. If you haven't then:
a)your a pussy
b)your not passionate about your profession

So what would happen if say a police officer lost their cool and acted out? Or any other public eye job? They'd get chastized(sp) like what's happening now. They get paid tens of MILLIONS of dollars to do just that play football. If a person is actually taking away from their team then they need to be removed or reminded of their position.

Also the fact that his history is being blindly ignored(by you guys) here surpirses me as well. If this was a one time thing then it would be a somewhat different situation. But it's not and he's one of THE most penalized and fined players in the NFL. His own college team mates said that he has serious issues that need to be addressed. Stop trying to defend this tool because you're making yourself look like one as well.

What if his dumb ass serious injures another player and ends their career, then how would you feel?

[CATNHAT]

WTF? So the next time I get into it with someone at work, I should stomp a mud hole in their ass? According to you I better, if I'm passionate about enforcing the law, and not a pussy. Sweet.

This is football not accounting and if you tell me youve never gotten mad at a coworker then maybe you fall under category A.

Maybe you watched a different game, but I didnt see anyone stomp a "mudhole in his ass" what the hell??

It was a fight, and you prolly never been in one.

[GHOSST]

This is football not accounting and if you tell me youve never gotten mad at a coworker then maybe you fall under category A.

Maybe you watched a different game, but I didnt see anyone stomp a "mudhole in his ass" what the hell??

It was a fight, and you prolly never been in one.

You make no SENSE. Who the fuck thinks like you? Of course we all dislike certain fellow co workers, but who incorporates everyday jobs with the likes of football? You need to get off the couch dude. Its called intelligence, common sense, professionalism. You don't seem to have any.

Oh yes, I never been in a fight. You keep telling yourself that, whatever allows you to sleep at night.

[srt4eh]

This is football not accounting and if you tell me youve never gotten mad at a coworker then maybe you fall under category A.

Maybe you watched a different game, but I didnt see anyone stomp a "mudhole in his ass" what the hell??

It was a fight, and you prolly never been in one.

Lol....telling a Marine he's never been in a fight...that's funny

[GHOSST]

Lol, don't worry Ed, he'll be after you next. A combat hardened Soldier, he'll probably say you've never fired a gun

[Wagonbacker9]

Wow.... I think we all need a good burnout or something.

[PureSound15]

Wtf is going on in here? Sounds like an argument between elderly strippers at a bingo tournament.

I still want to watch but you all sound like douche bags.

As you were.


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[BR3W CITY]

So what would happen if say a police officer lost their cool and acted out? Or any other public eye job? They'd get chastized(sp) like what's happening now.


They do all the time; and even when caught on video deny it to the death and then use as much red tape, department protection, and litigation as possible...

[CATNHAT]

Well, there's no specific details in the Walden case yet, and there aren't millions of fans particularly young children watching Walden possibly beat up his wife. All we know is what we read in the press, or what statements the police allow. Millions of fans watched Suh stomp on Dietrich-Smith during a time where your supposed to be at your most professional, setting those examples for people who look up to you. Walden should definitely get hit hard with fines if they find him guilty, but domestic violence at that caliber of professionalism isn't uncommon when your talking millions of dollars and the stresses of playing pro football. Intentionally stomping on players out of anger on the field is completely unsatisfactory any way you look at it.


You make no SENSE. Who the fuck thinks like you? Of course we all dislike certain fellow co workers, but who incorporates everyday jobs with the likes of football? You need to get off the couch dude. Its called intelligence, common sense, professionalism. You don't seem to have any.

Oh yes, I never been in a fight. You keep telling yourself that, whatever allows you to sleep at night.

You defend Walden(a Packer) for beating up a woman, and yet you chastise, demonish and even call Suh (a Detroit Lion) a punk and Bi-Polar for getting in a fight on the field a then claim my intelligence, common sense and professionalism are in question? And refer to the referees as Nazi's? Dude you are completely fucked. This may be some of the dumbest shit Ive read on any board and you claim to be a Police Officer?

but domestic violence at that caliber of professionalism isn't uncommon when your talking millions of dollars and the stresses of playing pro football
REALLY??? WHO IS THIS DUMB? Well, we now know the answer. Beating up your girlfriend is better then getting in a fight with a 325lb offensive lineman.

Seriously, like I said before, if your gonna be the Mayweather (1st class douche, his entire camp) of the NFL, be that. But don't try to act all innocent and dumbfounded. It makes you look that much more like a d-bag, and bi-polar.

And your a psychiatrist to top it off.

This was in a football game you ass-clown, and if Suh played for the Packers, you'd probably be defending him. Why wouldnt you-your defending Walden?

And I sleep just fine, not sure how YOU do though.

[GHOSST]

Sooo, like the idiot your pretending to be to win the argument, I'll play your game for a few more post. Lets act dumb and dissect my post word for word, it makes you look cool.

Let me reiterate, I never said domestic violence was ok, and I like how you failed to quote my entry statement were I said if Walden is found guilty he should get hit hard, like anyone should be for being found guilty of committing domestic violence. See that? Oh no... lets pretend not too for the sake of your argument. Overall to simply say that Suh's on field, visible to millions outburst is at the time worse for wear than Walden's arrest.

And the second attempt at saving your internet coolness, let me break down that qoute for you barney style, then maybe you'll comprehend grown man talk.

Mayweather is a first class douche, but he can box no doubt. People absolutely despise him, but they respect him. Suh is a very capable NFL player, but he likes to play hard, and this is very well known. So he should just embrace what he is, because he's overall good at what he does. Denying what you are just puts you into that third category, were people neither like you or respect you, and think your a little crazy.

Now, I never knew I needed to have a PHD to have common sense. Sense, you know what that is? No, not something you use to make your house smell good. And finally, if Suh played for the Packers I wouldn't back him up at all. If there is one thing I love about Packer players is their class. I wouldn't be proud of a team or player if they commonly and obviously played dirty. People who embrace that end being Steelers fans. Take a look, you see how Suh's own team is frowning upon his actions? That's the boat I'd be in. Try another angle dude. :)

[GTSLOW]

:rolf you're just latching onto the Erik Walden thing aren't you. Let the fucking legal process work before you jump to any conclusions. Now don't get me wrong it was a "felony" assault so more than likely it happened but I'm just saying.

And cat you really do look like a huge tool.

[animal]

:popcorn

[GTSLOW]

:popcorn

When you moving back to south milwaukee? :goof

[GHOSST]

:rolf you're just latching onto the Erik Walden thing aren't you. Let the fucking legal process work before you jump to any conclusions. Now don't get me wrong it was a "felony" assault so more than likely it happened but I'm just saying.

And cat you really do look like a huge tool.

See, thats the thing that's pissing me off, I'm not stuck on it at all, everyone else is, I made one statement and my single opinion about Walden Vs. Suh, because someone asked, and I should have been more clear in my statement obviously, because people are trying to turn it on me. I will let the fucking legal process work, geez, did I not say "If he's found guilty blah blah". Did I not?

Done with this thread.

[animal]

When you moving back to south milwaukee? :goof

i am usually down there once a week. otherwise no plans to move back there really.

[GTSLOW]

Maybe he should beat his girlfriend and get thrown in jail, or get thrown in jail for 6 years for being a repeat drug offender,

Take a look at the latest now dum dum. I wont bother posting a link since you're a subject matter expert.

And yes John Jolly, he was really active last year right? It's one thing to have not played for years vs an active player using drugs. Again your logic fails miserably.

[Josepy]

Just came in. 2 game suspended with no pay. NFL.com

[CATNHAT]

OK enough trash talk lets get back to OP question. Suh ejected--and our thoughts.

Who was the toughest meanest defender of all times, debatable of course but I would say Dick Butkus is definitley one of them. Was he dirty? Now hes an ICON and in the Hall of Fame.

Here is a Butkus highlight reel see if you can count how many penalties are in this video based on todays standard. I see: personal fouls (multiple infractions), roughing the passer, helmet to helmet, hands to the face, hitting a defenseless player (2:46), hitting out of bounds, facemask, fore arm shiver to the jaw, etc.

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And now Suh: Not sure who the announcer is here..

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With mixed Reactions from former NFL greats:

Lomas Brown:
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And Howie Long has a short memory of his career and he admits it at 2:25. Listen to Strahan at the 2:10 mark "hes aggressive and sometimes that can be interpreted as dirty"

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Some more Suh: an agressive tackle, but his helmet comes off so personal foul.
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Against Cutler: Bad call against Suh, that was not not a forearm to the head and replay and announcers confirm.
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College Highlight Reel:
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One Last Video: Suh gives $2,600,000.00 to the University of Nebraska.
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Suh may be the meanest, most violent guy to play to date. Hes big, fast, and strong like Reggie White with one bad ass temper. You fuck with him and he will fuck you up and I would LOVE to see him play for the Packers.

And Finally, I do not believe he has had ANY trouble off the field.