Pontiac G8...coming back as a Chevy?

[Prince Valiant]

MT confirms it:
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/1011_pontiac_g8_to_return_as_a_chevy/index.html

And it won't be named "Impala"

While it will share the same platform as the caprice, it won't be the long wheel-base version that the caprice gets for police duty.

Also, v8's only...they will only bring these over in limited numbers, citing importing cost due to dollar parity.

So, will this go over well? Or, will it only go over well with the fan-boi's online, but few will actually buy them in the showrooms?

[BAD LS1]

Not gonna lie, if they make it and sell them at the end of 2011 im getting one for my new DD.

[jbiscuit]

The G8s are super hot

[Neal Steffek]

I don't know why they would bring them back. As cool as they are, GM WAY over priced them and no one purchased one. Why would peope buy the exact same car 3 years later/older when newer cars are around?

[BAD LS1]

Well the G8 did debut right in the middle of the economy shit storm, so that has alot to do with the sales. The base GT's were right in that low 30's ball park, which is very reasonably priced for the amount car to be had.

[floaters]

Well the G8 did debut right in the middle of the economy shit storm, so that has alot to do with the sales. The base GT's were right in that low 30's ball park, which is very reasonably priced for the amount car to be had.

agree with tom the car is priced very fairly, besides gm's cheap/ugly interiors and lack of real navigation system in that car(not the onstar nav it has), the cars performance is right up there with 40-50k imported sport sedans.

[Exitspeed]

Damn, this has made my day. Out of all the cars that got the ax the Solstice and G8 were the biggest loses.

I might have to wait to buy a new daily.

[Prince Valiant]

I believe that by virtue of them only importing a few, it won't be as big a disappointment...

I mean, had they only imported 5,000 G8's a year, they'd had probably had to mark-up the cost of the car to keep from selling out in the first month. Instead, they brought over some 25,000 during a rough time, and thus were only able to sell half within the first year, and marking them down aggressively to get them all out.

If they can make a profit moving a smaller number, it's not so bad...and will help their image amongst their fans.

[Neal Steffek]

Well the G8 did debut right in the middle of the economy shit storm, so that has alot to do with the sales. The base GT's were right in that low 30's ball park, which is very reasonably priced for the amount car to be had.

The GT's should have been priced at $26K and the GXp at $32K. Plus you add the fact that many of the dealers added an extra $5K+ dealer mark up and it is no wonder they never sold. The many storys told on ClubGP about people wanting to buy one at MSRP and the dealer saying no, then to see the car sit on the lot for a year are amazing.

[Holeshot]

Holden FTW !!!

[pnad]

So what are they going to call it? Chevelle?

[JC70SS]

they better not!!:fire

[Prince Valiant]

So what are they going to call it? Chevelle?


they better not!!:fireAs coy as the GM exec was being about having a great name for it, I wouldn't be horribly surprised if it was "Chevelle."

Lets face it...it's unlikely that there will ever be a time again with moderately priced larger coupes as a chevelle would rightly be. Even the bigger producer of pricey 2 doors are going to "4 door coupes" like the Mercedes CLS and Audi A7.

Might this low volume player try to emulate the trend? Plus, though it offended some, Dodge did alright naming the previous large 4 door "charger" though it took a little while to actually make a car more fitting of the name...

Good call pnad...you might have called it first!

[Flicktitty]

they better not!!:fire

i agree. let that name stay dead.

here's an idea. A NEW NAME.

i bet these are gonna be expensive (40K+) at that rate you could get a gently used CTSV

[Teufelhunden]

I loves my Holden Commodore. Super tight car, 30k miles and not one squeak from her. Perfect car for me.

I paid $28k loaded. Who needs nav? lol

[Teufelhunden]

agree with tom the car is priced very fairly, besides gm's cheap/ugly interiors and lack of real navigation system in that car(not the onstar nav it has), the cars performance is right up there with 40-50k imported sport sedans.

I really don't think the interior is cheap. I've been in GM cars which have had "cheap interiors"...the G8 isn't that car. Just my $.02

[hrsp]

pics of the new ones??

[lilws6]

I really did think the interior is cheap. I've been in GM cars which have had "cheap interiors"...the G8 isn't that car. Just my $.02

like maybe i duno a cobalt :) the interior is way cheap in those and aveos lol

[PB86MCSS]

Chevelle might be it but I would guess they'll go with a new nameplate. Would make sense going forward, to help symbolize it isn't the same old GM to Joe Public.

[Larrygto]

I wish they would bring the Ute over here!

[Reverend Cooper]

I would rock a g8 for a daily driver

[Waver]

As coy as the GM exec was being about having a great name for it, I wouldn't be horribly surprised if it was "Chevelle."

Lets face it...it's unlikely that there will ever be a time again with moderately priced larger coupes as a chevelle would rightly be. Even the bigger producer of pricey 2 doors are going to "4 door coupes" like the Mercedes CLS and Audi A7.

Might this low volume player try to emulate the trend? Plus, though it offended some, Dodge did alright naming the previous large 4 door "charger" though it took a little while to actually make a car more fitting of the name...

Good call pnad...you might have called it first!
I disagree with this statement

Dodge did alright naming the previous large 4 door "charger"

To me, giving it the name of Charger destroyes the legacy of it. To me, it is just like Chevy calling its new 4 door Camaro or ford calling its new 4 door Mustang, or Brett Farve going to the hall of fame as anything other than a Packer. Calling the new car a Cheville would be a little better than what Chrysler did because there were 4 door Chevilles, even though the first thing that most people think of is the 70 ss 2 door. Just like what I think of when I think of Charger, the 69/70 2 door.......

[lordairgtar]

Maybe called Bel Air?

[CATNHAT]

I would rock a g8 for a daily driver

X2 brazillian! That is a nice looking car with performance to boot!

[spooln30]

I like the G8. BUT, I think that GM has the crapest quality interiors out of any of the "Big 3" with Chryler being very close second. Take a 2007+ Caddy CTS and the CTS-V. Expensive cars and the quality is just junk. The dashes are thin cheap plastic and hollow sounding when you knock on them. JUNK! It's like no matter which car you buy from GM, you get the same crappy quality interior. That's why I will never buy a GM. They have great V8 engines and some of their cars are styled very good but it has to be the whole package. It's cool their not letting the G8 die.

[outlawgibbs]

I dont know who there fooling. Chevy has had this car around for years.....

Its a Lumina SS.
http://www.autosnewspaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/chevrolet-lumina-ss-3.jpg
http://www.autosnewspaper.com/2010/08/09/2010-chevrolet-lumina-ss/
They started life as a 4 door GTO and grew into the Chevy version of the G8

[outlawgibbs]

Here is the first gen version that looked more like the GTO
http://www.q8hp.com/Lumina%20SS%2700-76482-1.jpg

[Prince Valiant]

I disagree with this statementWell, you're wrong.



To me, giving it the name of Charger destroyes the legacy of it.Which is dumb. Why would a car produced 40 years ago be any less, or for that any greater, than it actually was, because of a car made today with the same name?

I mean, why didn't this car ruin the "charger" name for you:

http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/01/16/08/48/1984_dodge_charger-pic-32551.jpeg

For that matter, did this car ruin how great the 1970 challenger is:


http://www.imcdb.org/images/049/613.jpg

I no longer like any 66-72 Nova's because of this car:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/chevrolet-nova-41.jpg

Of course, the real reason ALL mustangs suck? This guy:

http://www.shnack.com/history/pics/1974FordMustang_large.jpg

And you know what's funny? Actually, the Holden Commondore is actually a damn decent car in it's own right, unlike the pictured cars above...

And hey, while we're on the subject of chevelle's, and chargers, did you know they actually made the vaunted 68-70 chargers with leaning tower of powers, the 225 slant six? Most were sold with mundane bread n' butter 2bbl 318's. Made those hemi's pretty worthless....just my opinion.

Now, I don't know what the name is for this upcoming car...but facts are facts. This isn't the 60's where 2 door cars outsold 4 doors...and where more models were available as two door only versus 4 door only. In this day and age, car buyer's needs and desires have changed. 2 doors are comparatively rare against 4 doors.

I am also quite aware that the name will tick off some people...look at those still upset over the GTO name given to what is fairly considered a spiritual successor of the GTO's...much less applying a name like charger to a 4 door. People still cry about it...it's pathetic really.

If the car is named "Chevelle," I'll think it's pretty neat. To be honest, I'm now thinking it won't be though...

[lordairgtar]

Well, you're wrong.


Which is dumb. Why would a car produced 40 years ago be any less, or for that any greater, than it actually was, because of a car made today with the same name?

I mean, why didn't this car ruin the "charger" name for you:

http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/01/16/08/48/1984_dodge_charger-pic-32551.jpeg


Had one of these. Wasn't a bad car for what it was. I wouldn't mind another. I think the Mustang II was closer to the original concept of the original car...plus some the vaunted (on this forum anyway) Fox body cars came with four bangers. Just think, if the Mustang wasn't as popular of a car as it was, and the people hadn't raised an outcry, our next Mustang after the Mustang II would have been the Probe!

[xFullThrottlex]

Maybe called Bel Air?


I hope not

[VroomPshhTsi]

I hope not

LOL I was waiting for you to show up.

[Exitspeed]

Cutlass Supreme! lol

[MurphysLaw88GT]

Brougham

[xFullThrottlex]

LOL I was waiting for you to show up.
:thumbsup

What are you up to tonight?!

[pOrk]

I like the newer 4 door chargers better then the old 2 doors.

[lilws6]

if i needed a 4door witch down the road maybe i'de pick up a g8 or what ever the chevy version is

[lordairgtar]

Corvair?:devil

[Waver]

Well, you're wrong.


Which is dumb. Why would a car produced 40 years ago be any less, or for that any greater, than it actually was, because of a car made today with the same name?

I mean, why didn't this car ruin the "charger" name for you:

http://static.cargurus.com/images/site/2008/01/16/08/48/1984_dodge_charger-pic-32551.jpeg

For that matter, did this car ruin how great the 1970 challenger is:


http://www.imcdb.org/images/049/613.jpg

I no longer like any 66-72 Nova's because of this car:

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/chevrolet-nova-41.jpg

Of course, the real reason ALL mustangs suck? This guy:

http://www.shnack.com/history/pics/1974FordMustang_large.jpg

And you know what's funny? Actually, the Holden Commondore is actually a damn decent car in it's own right, unlike the pictured cars above...

And hey, while we're on the subject of chevelle's, and chargers, did you know they actually made the vaunted 68-70 chargers with leaning tower of powers, the 225 slant six? Most were sold with mundane bread n' butter 2bbl 318's. Made those hemi's pretty worthless....just my opinion.

Now, I don't know what the name is for this upcoming car...but facts are facts. This isn't the 60's where 2 door cars outsold 4 doors...and where more models were available as two door only versus 4 door only. In this day and age, car buyer's needs and desires have changed. 2 doors are comparatively rare against 4 doors.

I am also quite aware that the name will tick off some people...look at those still upset over the GTO name given to what is fairly considered a spiritual successor of the GTO's...much less applying a name like charger to a 4 door. People still cry about it...it's pathetic really.

If the car is named "Chevelle," I'll think it's pretty neat. To be honest, I'm now thinking it won't be though...

Once again you completely missed the point.......You want to know why that 84 Charger is more inline with the original? Because it IS a 2 door. Same with the Daytona, same with the Mustang II. That challenger that you posted, once again......you guessed it, same as the original. Oh and Holy shit, I do believe there were 4 door Nova's back in the 60's and 70's when they came out, so there for I guess that toyota version is closer to the original than the current dodge Charger. There wasnt a 4 door Charger in the 70's when the car was created. Before the current car came out, when the name Charger was brought up, no one though of it as a 4 door. To say that it was a good idea of chrysler to name a 4 door that, in my OPINION, was not the right thing to do.....So i guess in this case YOU ARE WRONG! Thank god you are not in charge of naming a vehicle, because if you follow your logic, the "new" g8 would be called Monte Carlo.

Oh and by the way, and opinion cannot be wrong.....because it is someone's take on a statement. for instance, some people feel that Obama is a great president.....If you disagree with that, are you going to tell them that they are wrong?

[Teufelhunden]

...some people feel that Obama is a great president.....If you disagree with that, are you going to tell them that they are wrong?They are wrong...Yes we can! :)

[Waver]

they are wrong...yes we can! :)

bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

[lilws6]

i gave obama my $20 bill and i'm still waiting for my change. i never voted for the guy but eh what eva

[Exitspeed]

Hey guys, please vote to have my question answered on Autoblog's podcast this week.

"Do you think the new Chevy version of the G8 is going to sell better then the Pontiac G8 did? Also, do you think they will offer a manual transmission in the GT model? Last, what's your guess on the name?"

MelRusselllIII

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/24/submit-your-questions-for-autoblog-podcast-214/

Thanks guys!

[03CVLX]

voted

[GHOSST]

Government Motors! :)

[LEWETHETIGER73]

GM turned their back on me with the murder of Pontiac, so the can go F themselves. I wouldn't drive one if it was free!

[IcePickFreak]

Voted.

Originally they were talking about releasing the GT with a manual trans. My guess is because that meant no AFM, which could of meant gas-guzzler tax (GXP had to pay it), and the GT was being promoted as "The best sedan under $30k" so there wasn't much wiggle room. I would of definitely opted for a manual, but not the extra $8k it was for a GXP at the time.

Here's the pic that was floating around (was from one of the blog sites) when this latest mention surfaced - it's the 2nd or 3rd time they've said it since Pontiac got axed. Different hood, bumper, & Camaro 20s.
http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv24/IcePickFreak/1_chevy-commodore_420-420x0.jpg


And yeah, mine is a true DD, with an extra set of rims/snow tires, it kicks ass in the snow. (at least one person will flame me for this surely)

From Winter of 09
http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv24/IcePickFreak/0209001629.jpg

Oscars tonight? :shades

[FoxStang]

I heard the Camino might be making a come back, very much so hearsay.

[Exitspeed]

The G8 is still probably my favorite car that GM has ever made. If the Gt woulda came in a 6 speed I would have been all over it.

If they do a GT, 6MT, WAGON! WIN!

Thanks for the votes too.

[GHOSST]

That actually looks pretty bad ass. It would be nice to have a poor mans CTSV. By this I mean excellent gm interior, with nice horsepower, but decently priced.

[British_Ben]

Just to add some insight to the possible styling, here are the current British variants that are currently still in production:

Vauxhall VRX8 (British version of the Pontiac G8 GXP), Available with a manual transmission:

http://www.topvauxhallpics.info/wp-content/images/2010/10/Vauxhall-VXR8/Vauxhall-VXR8-4.jpg

http://www.popular-pics.com/PPImages/Vauxhall-VXR8-001.jpg

http://www.cartomotive.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/2011-Vauxhall-VXR8-Interior-View.jpg

The rumored wagon version (was supposed to be out in 2009, so don't hold your breath): :drool::drool:
http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_521/car_photo_260922_7.jpg

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/221877/vauxhall_vxr8_wagon.html

And just for kicks, here is the Vauxhall Insignia VXR (Buick LaCrosse GXP, basically), 6MT only:

http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_611/car_photo_305825_7.jpg

http://www.sacarfan.co.za/wp-content/gallery/vauxhall-insignia-vxr/sacarfan-vauxhall-insignia-vxr-03.jpg

http://www.distrocar.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/2010-Vauxhall-Insignia-VXR-Sports-Tourer-Interior-Design-590x442.jpg

And it's wagon variant (currently in production): :drool::drool:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/20006/images/VauxhallInsigniaVXR_2009_2.jpg

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/20006/images/VauxhallInsigniaVXR_2009_3.jpg

I don't know what it is about wagons.... But I'd take one over the sedan.

Rumor has it that the 2012 Chevy Malibu will be based on the current Buick LaCrosse Platform. The current Chevy Malibu is based on the GM Epsilon platform whereas the current Buick LaCrosse is based on the GM Epsilon II platform like the Vauxhall Insignia.

For the curious -> http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/microsite/vxr/

[FoxStang]

That actually looks pretty bad ass. It would be nice to have a poor mans CTSV. By this I mean excellent gm interior, with nice horsepower, but decently priced.

Cadillac's have excellent interiors? This is news to me.

[IcePickFreak]

There's also been talk that the next-gen Commodore will be fwd, one about engineering for the zeta platform moving over Detroit, and of course the couple different times the G8 is returning as a Chevy other than a police vehicle.

Then theres some aussie who decided to do this, which means it would work on the sedan and wagon as well. Who wouldn't want a Camaro sedan, wagon, or El Camaro? :punch:
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Holden-Camaro-ute-1-625x468.jpg

[GHOSST]

Cadillac's have excellent interiors? This is news to me.

Are you kidding me? My Dads 08' STS has some of the best black leather interior I've seen, and every option imaginable. But why am I surprised a Ford owner is biased. GM runs the luxury "American" auto maker market, hands down, just like Ford has the best selling truck since forever.

[FoxStang]

Are you kidding me? My Dads 08' STS has some of the best black leather interior I've seen, and every option imaginable. But why am I surprised a Ford owner is biased. GM runs the luxury "American" auto maker market, hands down, just like Ford has the best selling truck since forever.

Spent a fair share of time working around high end cars, Cadillac is far from quality. They may have lots of options but the build quality and finish isn't anything stellar, other luxury makers easily blow them out of the water. Its getting better, certainly better than 5 years ago but definitely not where it should be. Give them a little more time though and it should get there.

I would agree, Ford's luxury offerings suck at the moment, I hope they're redoing Lincoln but I'm not going to hold my breath.

And a Commodore wagon with a V8 here :drool:.

[Ricky Bobby]

now this is hawt
http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_521/car_photo_260922_7.jpg

whichever they choose i just hope its not gay looking

[Waver]

Spent a fair share of time working around high end cars, Cadillac is far from quality. They may have lots of options but the build quality and finish isn't anything stellar, other luxury makers easily blow them out of the water. Its getting better, certainly better than 5 years ago but definitely not where it should be. Give them a little more time though and it should get there.

I would agree, Ford's luxury offerings suck at the moment, I hope they're redoing Lincoln but I'm not going to hold my breath.

And a Commodore wagon with a V8 here :drool:.

Actually the 2011 Lincoln interiors are very nice, and have been rated as such in different tests.

[FoxStang]

Actually the 2011 Lincoln interiors are very nice, and have been rated as such in different tests.

Didn't say they weren't, I actually think Fords across the line have excellent quality interiors for their pricing point. With that said I haven't driven or had significant time in the newest of the Lincolns, so to actually comment on the interior quality would be blowing smoke on my end. I don't have a doubt in my mind they are on par if not better than the Caddy's though. The cars themselves are just rebranded Ford products, something that needs to change if Lincoln is going to try to compete with Cadillac. Besides, you can option out most of the Fords pretty well without having to pay the Lincoln premium. (Though I must say the body on the MKS looks great, better than the Taurus.)

I wish Ford would bring over the Falcon.

[wrath]

They should put a L94 in it (6.2L with VVT, AFM and E85). When they put one in the 1/2 ton trucks I'm going to buy one.