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team beater
10-15-2010, 09:53 PM
Hello all, contemplating a 4x4 diesel but dont know much info on whats whats. Can anyone give me insight on the duramax's, cummins, and powerstrokes? Cant afford new, probably between 00-05, would like 4 door under 15ish.

info is appreciated.

Monstr913
10-15-2010, 10:07 PM
what do you wanna know? duramaxes make power real easy but trans is good to around 450 at wheels...cummins are good motors and cheap to build lots of low end power, auto trannies are junk even when built...and well ford is ford not much to be said there lol

UnderPSI
10-16-2010, 08:48 AM
Forget ford all together. Like he said if you want quick easy power, get a duramax. Dodges are nice too, but budget $4,000 for a trans right away. Both always finish top in truck pulling and drag racing. Fords finish top in spending a ton of money and still having no power.

team beater
10-16-2010, 11:01 AM
I'm a gm fan, so its nice to know the duramax is a top pick. If I read right the earlier version has injector issues, is there anyway to determine when shopping? Also what mileage is too high? What are other weak points?

UnderPSI
10-16-2010, 11:44 AM
I have an 05 which has the variable vane turbo. Started in 04.5 spools up nice and quick and you can use it as a turbo brake as well. I would get an 02-05.

WickedSix
10-16-2010, 03:04 PM
im in the market for one come next summer. I'm looking for an lly 04.5-05. doesn't have a ton of emissions stuff just egr (which can be blocked off) and a cat (which can easily be hollowed out) the variable vane has excellent throttle response, especially if you upgrade the turbo inlet pipe which is a must for the lly

UnderPSI
10-16-2010, 03:10 PM
The turbo mouth piece and the hot side boost tube are the biggest bolt on differences. The stock air box is fine up to 500ish hp if you modify it. So you don't need an intake. I have and egr block off for the 04.5-05 if anyone needs one. If you want I can take you for a ride in my truck so you can get a feel for it. I have a turbo and injectors coming for it next week.

emptypockets
10-16-2010, 09:16 PM
Go duramax or Cummins. Im currently on my 4th dmax truck and love it to death. Keep building them up more and more each time. This one is a 08, built engine, built trans, twins, built and tuned by myself.

You cannot go wrong with either GM or Dodge, there both awesome power plants.

UnderPSI
10-17-2010, 10:25 AM
What rods/pistons did you use in your motor?

emptypockets
10-17-2010, 03:19 PM
What rods/pistons did you use in your motor?

Carrillo Rods, Mahle Pistons. Parts came from SoCal Diesel.

Monstr913
10-17-2010, 07:39 PM
alright emptypockets how come we've never seen your truck around I know pretty much all the diesel guys in the area between truck pullin, drag racing and anything involving diesels and i only know one guy with a 08 twined but he lives in janesville and is efi tuned...

as far as telling by miles for trucks possibly goin bad its a crap shoot...LB7 are 01-04 and have head gasket and injector issues and are wastegated turbos...04.5-06 are LLYs starting to show headgasket issues and the injector harnesses have been known to go bad on #2 & #7...06-07 LBZ are nice motors but would probably be more then your looking to spend on a mud truck...If you go cummins get a 12 valve P-pump found in 94-98 i believe and will make good power for cheap and easy to work on as its all mechanical injection

emptypockets
10-18-2010, 05:37 AM
alright emptypockets how come we've never seen your truck around I know pretty much all the diesel guys in the area between truck pullin, drag racing and anything involving diesels and i only know one guy with a 08 twined but he lives in janesville and is efi tuned...

as far as telling by miles for trucks possibly goin bad its a crap shoot...LB7 are 01-04 and have head gasket and injector issues and are wastegated turbos...04.5-06 are LLYs starting to show headgasket issues and the injector harnesses have been known to go bad on #2 & #7...06-07 LBZ are nice motors but would probably be more then your looking to spend on a mud truck...If you go cummins get a 12 valve P-pump found in 94-98 i believe and will make good power for cheap and easy to work on as its all mechanical injection

That would be because i just moved back to wisconsin roughly 4 months ago. Just retired from 24 years active duty, diesel engine mechanic... :thumbsup

Currently working for the USPS. :thumbsup Looking for pension number two!

Also im not much into racing nor do I pull, I just enjoy a nice quick truck! :banana

FourEyedFord
10-18-2010, 03:35 PM
I don't know guys, I just rode in a pretty badass 6.0 liter last night. From what the owner says, it may be just the begining too. :shades

Monstr913
10-18-2010, 03:41 PM
i was just wondering i didnt mean to call you out or any offense, just to get that clear lol...why didnt this badass ford come to gld saturday for the drags? lol

BOSS LX
10-18-2010, 04:28 PM
I don't know guys, I just rode in a pretty badass 6.0 liter last night. From what the owner says, it may be just the begining too. :shades

Everyone knows 6.0's are junk! It sure is nice having a nice truck around the motor though! :wooo

FourEyedFord
10-18-2010, 05:04 PM
i was just wondering i didnt mean to call you out or any offense, just to get that clear lol...why didnt this badass ford come to gld saturday for the drags? lol

Oh I know, and I didn't mean to offend anyone else's non-ford. My beat down old 7.3l truck ain't badass enough to rumble with you guys.

I think the owner was out of state at a drag race on Saturday, otherwise he and I would have been there.

UnderPSI
10-18-2010, 05:40 PM
It's alright we all know the fords can't hang with us :P

FourEyedFord
10-18-2010, 06:49 PM
It's alright we all know the fords can't hang with us :P

That sounds like a call out to me! My farm truck is always willing for some action! :D

Give a brotha a break though, I gots no intercooler.....lol.

SmokinRAM114
10-18-2010, 07:21 PM
That sounds like a call out to me! My farm truck is always willing for some action! :D

Give a brotha a break though, I gots no intercooler.....lol.

urs is the only non intercooled truck i wouldnt spot out!! :stare:goof

FourEyedFord
10-18-2010, 09:07 PM
urs is the only non intercooled truck i wouldnt spot out!! :stare:goof

Ha, I gotta fix my peg leg first......otherwise I do need spots. :D

WI_Dave
10-19-2010, 06:45 AM
Monstr913 is your profile pic at Skeeter's? If so I loved the burnouts:headbang

Yeehaw
10-19-2010, 11:34 AM
there is nothing wrong with international diesels, like any diesel, do some research on them take care of them and they will last

and the OP didn't say anything about modifying the s**t out of it either....

DoubleAron
10-19-2010, 03:17 PM
There is no such thing as the perfect diesel p/u. If there was everyone would have it, they all have their flaws.

Anakonda69
10-19-2010, 07:09 PM
all have issues it depends on what your willing to deal with.

UnderPSI
10-19-2010, 10:13 PM
That sounds like a call out to me!

Yup :goof

Josepy
10-25-2010, 08:42 AM
That would be because i just moved back to wisconsin roughly 4 months ago. Just retired from 24 years active duty, diesel engine mechanic... :thumbsup

Currently working for the USPS. :thumbsup Looking for pension number two!

Also im not much into racing nor do I pull, I just enjoy a nice quick truck! :banana

Hey breecher why do you feel the need for all the different user names. Thought you did not care about being on here?

Monstr913
10-25-2010, 04:48 PM
Monstr913 is your profile pic at Skeeter's? If so I loved the burnouts:headbang

yes it is, it was a fun day and the first set of tires i ever popped. way more fun than i ever thought. not to bad for a 12 sec plow truck.

yea josepy after talking to some guys this weekend thats who we think he is, this awesome truck that no has seen

nitrous
10-25-2010, 08:28 PM
I wouldn't call the 6.4L Fords a pushover. With an intake, exhaust, and programmer they can run 12s pretty easily and the stock trans has been into the 11s.

That being said, if you can get an 06 Duramax at a good price, that is the year to get if you're looking to mod (depending on amount). Better bottom end, better year for the CP3 and no DPF.

Anakonda69
10-26-2010, 07:15 PM
if i could go back i may have waited til i could have found an 06. oh well i still love my lly.

SmokinRAM114
10-26-2010, 07:39 PM
i hate 06 duramax's. gotta love a hair dryer sounding diesel. only truck i would love the owners to keep the mufflers on!

Monstr913
10-27-2010, 03:28 PM
thats why I love my wastegated turbo, and it will stay that way even when upgraded.

KyleTT
09-20-2011, 11:47 AM
The one thing I do know about diesel trucks is run away from a Ford 6.0. My uncle just replaced his turbo on his 6.0. Sounds like a simple thing to do but I think you have to take the whole engine out which ends up costing a lot. I really like the Duramax's.

Waver
09-20-2011, 07:03 PM
Holy Zombie thread Batman!

austena123
09-21-2011, 04:47 PM
HA Post whoring!

Yeehaw
10-09-2011, 03:23 PM
it took me about 20 minutes to have my turbo out?

only reason a turbo should have issues on a 6.0 is if the truck idles a lot they soot up and the vanes stick

for the haters, i have 158k on mine, race tuned since 133k, has stock headgaskets/headbolts and all 8 factory injectors

its not the fastest thing (nor do i want it to be) but it is fun to drive, sounds amazing, and it is super comfy IMO. It has never leaked nor burn any oil or coolant. I drive the piss out of it too and tow a fair amount of weight behind it.

Coops Brother
01-07-2012, 01:45 AM
I have an 02 Duramax, bought it last spring with 318,000 miles. As of tonight it has 340,000. No leaks, no rust (from Oregon) 20+ mpg on the highway.

http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo88/coopthehdrider/2011-04-07_18-17-56_707.jpg

Cryptic
01-07-2012, 12:06 PM
running on "Soy Power" Biodiesel
2011 F250 Crew Cab Short box 6.7L 7500lb truck
country road driving 55mph
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480x480/381574_10150447852248391_517443390_8869238_1099502 794_n.jpg

Anakonda69
01-16-2012, 12:44 PM
vvt's sound awesome. i love my air dryer. it gets jersey shore type air dryerish at high idle when it's really cold. lol

70smuscle
03-30-2012, 05:42 PM
I just bought a 2012 dodge ram 2500 crew cab long box!! 6.7 cummins diesel, high output, 4.10 gears, automatic trans... is a edge box or a programmer worth buying or should i wory about getting something else to improve power first? Thanks

Schmit692
02-28-2013, 03:35 AM
duramaxes make power actual easy but trans is fantastic to around 450 at wheels...cummins are fantastic Google and affordable to create a lot of low end power, automated trannies are junk even when designed.... . . . . .