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STANMAN
09-12-2010, 03:31 PM
I understand the rule, but what a bunch of bullshite. Haven't Detroit fans suffered enough?

0TransAm0
09-12-2010, 04:14 PM
i agree 100% in my eye's it was a touchdown. fuck da bears.

Bobby "Big Daddy" Flay
09-12-2010, 04:16 PM
both teams suck

Deggy
09-12-2010, 04:42 PM
both teams suck

qft.

Lash
09-12-2010, 05:04 PM
qft.

True.... but any Bears loss is a good loss.

IMO... the Bears just lost to the Lions. :thumbsup

Holeshot
09-12-2010, 05:11 PM
Worst officiating ever !

Karps TA
09-12-2010, 07:11 PM
That's a horseshit rule. I don't get why a guy can dive into the endzone barely break the plane and it's a TD. But a guy clearly has control of a football, not only gets 2 feet down, but also a hand and an ass, and that's not immediately a TD.

That kind of call could really be a season turner for Detroit. They could have came out of that with a ton of confidence. Instead they feel like same old Detroit.

They need a backup QB though if Stafford is going to be tissue paper. That defense is pretty damn good though. I still say they beat the Packers 1 game this year.

Lash
09-12-2010, 07:16 PM
That kind of call could really be a season turner for Detroit. They could have came out of that with a ton of confidence. Instead they feel like same old Detroit.



I agree 100%.

1320PNY
09-12-2010, 08:41 PM
Grew up in Chicago. Am still a Bears Fan. That call was shit. Lions deserve the win. Lovie needs to retire and some veteran receivers should be hired.

If you catch a ball, hit your ass on the ground and then turn to get up and pitch the ball out the back of the endzone...it's a touchdown.

STANMAN
09-12-2010, 08:46 PM
Being a Lions fan, this pretty much ruined my whole day:(

Yooformula
09-12-2010, 08:56 PM
Imo, for the Lions coach to agree with the call is bs too. I just watched it for the first time and I dont get how it wasnt a catch! 2 feet in, a knee and hand down, should have been a catch the play done with. wtf does he have to stand up again? it wasnt a diving catch!?!

STANMAN
09-12-2010, 09:03 PM
Imo, for the Lions coach to agree with the call is bs too. I just watched it for the first time and I dont get how it wasnt a catch! 2 feet in, a knee and hand down, should have been a catch the play done with. wtf does he have to stand up again? it wasnt a diving catch!?!

And his ass, I mean if that isn't a catch, I don't know what is! A running back can "break the plain" and fumble a half second later and it's good, but a reciever makes a circus catch, maintains possesion, flips the ball when he's getting up to celebrate and it's NOT a TD? A bunch of shite. Same with the "can't touch the QB's helmet" rule. I mean blows to the head should be called, but a touch (there were 2 in this game, one on each team) to be called is BS. This is a big boys game, they are trying to water it down to touch football when it comes to the QB's.

Holeshot
09-12-2010, 09:14 PM
It was under two minutes so he couldn't challenge anyway. It was booth review correct ?

Lash
09-12-2010, 09:20 PM
It was under two minutes so he couldn't challenge anyway. It was booth review correct ?

yup

05caddyext
09-12-2010, 10:29 PM
He didn't get up and pitch the ball out of the endzone, the ball came out of his hand when it hit the ground after he made the catch. And no im not a bears fan. This was a terrible call. He had possession, had 2 feet down and had control, what happens to the ball after that shouldn't matter. I don't understand how the rules work, but in this case it seems ridiculous that that isn't a td catch for the win.

flyin_blue_egg
09-13-2010, 10:39 AM
That's a horseshit rule. I don't get why a guy can dive into the endzone barely break the plane and it's a TD. But a guy clearly has control of a football, not only gets 2 feet down, but also a hand and an ass, and that's not immediately a TD.

That kind of call could really be a season turner for Detroit. They could have came out of that with a ton of confidence. Instead they feel like same old Detroit.

They need a backup QB though if Stafford is going to be tissue paper. That defense is pretty damn good though. I still say they beat the Packers 1 game this year.


you do realize that the backup QB is the one that made that throw at the end right??? I was watching on and off at work and it seemed like Stafford didn't play much of the 2nd half.

flyin_blue_egg
09-13-2010, 10:51 AM
And his ass, I mean if that isn't a catch, I don't know what is! A running back can "break the plain" and fumble a half second later and it's good, but a reciever makes a circus catch, maintains possesion, flips the ball when he's getting up to celebrate and it's NOT a TD? A bunch of shite. Same with the "can't touch the QB's helmet" rule. I mean blows to the head should be called, but a touch (there were 2 in this game, one on each team) to be called is BS. This is a big boys game, they are trying to water it down to touch football when it comes to the QB's.

He didn't flip the ball. He made a one handed catch,and as he hit the ground, he still have the ball in just one hand, the ball w/ the hand hit the ground and the ball slipped out.

Anakonda69
09-13-2010, 12:32 PM
stafford didn't play at all in the 2nd half i thought? horrible call. i would have gotten ejected for the tirade i would have gone had i been coaching that team. the process of a catch rule has never applied really in the end zone. if you cross the plane with possession of the ball it's a touchdown, end of story. same thing with receiving, you have poss. and land in bounds touchdown. period.

STANMAN
09-13-2010, 02:06 PM
I know he didn't flip it out, I was adding "flair":rolf


And no Stafford "Captain Hurts Alot" was re-injured at the end of the 1st half, he had already taken his pads off before halftime.

Karps TA
09-13-2010, 02:12 PM
you do realize that the backup QB is the one that made that throw at the end right??? I was watching on and off at work and it seemed like Stafford didn't play much of the 2nd half.


No shit really?:rolleyes:

1 good throw in a full half of a game means jack shit. His next 2 throws after that were god awful.Most he throws before that were awful. The last wasn't even bounds. Hard to win a game throwing the ball out of bounds.

If you're going to spend big bux on a #1 pick young QB, then give him a veteran QB to learn from, especially when the kid hasn't stayed healthy so far. Hill has been a shitty 3rd string backup QB for like 8 years. There's not a single thing he can teach Stafford.

STANMAN
09-13-2010, 04:34 PM
No shit really?:rolleyes:

1 good throw in a full half of a game means jack shit. His next 2 throws after that were god awful.Most he throws before that were awful. The last wasn't even bounds. Hard to win a game throwing the ball out of bounds.

If you're going to spend big bux on a #1 pick young QB, then give him a veteran QB to learn from, especially when the kid hasn't stayed healthy so far. Hill has been a shitty 3rd string backup QB for like 8 years. There's not a single thing he can teach Stafford.

^This.


At least when they had Culpepper around Stafford had someone who had a few great years under his belt to learn from when he was injured.

GTSLOW
09-13-2010, 05:44 PM
No. 1

THE GAME: Detroit at Chicago

THE SITUATION: Detroit trails Chicago 19-14 with 24 seconds left in the game

THE PLAY: The Lions' Calvin Johnson catches a pass from Shaun Hill for what he thought was the go-ahead touchdown.

MY TAKE: See the video above or read my explanation below.

Upon further review, the play stands.

With the Lions trailing the Bears 19-14, Johnson leaped up to grab what he thought was a touchdown pass that would have given the Lions a 20-19 lead with 24 seconds left.

But even after Johnson came down with both feet in bounds, as he hit the ground, the ball popped loose and the ruling on the field was an incomplete pass, which was the correct call.

The booth review by the replay assistant confirmed the ruling and the play stood as called on the field.

Here's why: Rule 8, Section 1, Article 4.

A play from start to finish is a process. When you go to the ground, even after you've caught the ball, you have to maintain possession.

The rule states: If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.
MAKE THE CALL

Mike Pereira
Our rules expert Mike Pereira breaks down all the big decisions HERE.



So the play stood as called and the Bears held on to win, 19-14.

The onus is on the receiver to hold onto the ball even after he hits the ground.

Unfortunately for Johnson and the Lions, they found that out the hard way.


Seems like it was the correct call.

flyin_blue_egg
09-14-2010, 11:20 AM
No shit really?:rolleyes:

1 good throw in a full half of a game means jack shit. His next 2 throws after that were god awful.Most he throws before that were awful. The last wasn't even bounds. Hard to win a game throwing the ball out of bounds.

If you're going to spend big bux on a #1 pick young QB, then give him a veteran QB to learn from, especially when the kid hasn't stayed healthy so far. Hill has been a shitty 3rd string backup QB for like 8 years. There's not a single thing he can teach Stafford.

I didn't say Hill was good or even decent. I was just pointing out that he's the one that made the throw (and a pretty good one at that)