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flyin_blue_egg
07-04-2010, 12:38 PM
Well my wife was a passenger in a car accident on friday...she broke her right arm. problem is it happened in janesville and i don't want to keep going to doctors out there. they told us to have her see a ortho surgeon up here, but we don't know of any...thanks.

noeggs4u
07-04-2010, 01:24 PM
Richard g. Davito. 414 766 9060. He did surgery on my shoulder and did a very good job. Nice dr. To deal with.

Anakonda69
07-04-2010, 01:27 PM
dr. jeffery shovers. west allis orthopedics right across from crazy horse on 92nd and national. did my acl surgery awesome guy.

brotherbenn83
07-04-2010, 02:10 PM
+100,000,000,000 for Jeff Shovers. He was highly recommended by my Dad, who was a vascular surgeon in Milwaukee for 17 years (RIP Dad). The guy is easy to deal with, and he talks to you like a he's a normal person; not some empty suit with a God complex.

Reverend Cooper
07-04-2010, 03:03 PM
Dr. James Stone. Tell him Mike Cooper from Andrew Toyota sent you. He is one of te best.

michelle
07-04-2010, 03:23 PM
Dr. Greg Van Winkle from Forward Orthopedics at Community Memorial. Did a great job fixing one of my knees from a previous surgery and performed both surgeries on my other knee. Great staff at Forward that explained everything before and after surgery so that a high school and college kid could understand.

262-257-5860

flyin_blue_egg
07-05-2010, 12:40 PM
dr. jeffery shovers. west allis orthopedics right across from crazy horse on 92nd and national. did my acl surgery awesome guy.



this is our first choice. but we're afraid that we won't be able to get in anytime soon. the idiots at the mercy hospital in janesville just told us to go home and call a dr. ourselves...one would think that since until we see another DR she's stuck in a splint and a crappy ass sling that they would've refered us, but no.

DR. Divito is our 2nd choice (and prob. our best) he works at the same hospital that my wife is a RN at so we're hoping that bc she works there her boss can maybe pull some strings to get her an appt. sooner.

Anakonda69
07-05-2010, 09:42 PM
yeah dr. shovers is usually backed up for a bit.

Prince Valiant
07-05-2010, 09:53 PM
There is no a shortage of very good ortho guys in Milwaukee...these are some of my favorite upper extremtiy guys in the area:

Sean Tracy, William Pennington, Dean Ziegler, William Raasch (Brewers team ortho).

There are more, of course...but these are the guys that I've seen quite a bit of work from and feel very confident in recommending.

Which bone did she break? Location of the fracture?

flyin_blue_egg
07-06-2010, 12:02 AM
middle of the right humerous

brotherbenn83
07-06-2010, 05:19 PM
Same building as Dr. Shovers is Dr. Paul Sienkiewicz. Guy is smart as hell, repaired my ankle in the summer of 2007.

Lv2xlr8
07-06-2010, 06:01 PM
I work for a Ortho Company called Styker Orthopaedics. Majority of our Trauma in Milwaukee is done by Dr. Bamrah, and Dr. Ladwig.

lordairgtar
07-06-2010, 06:30 PM
Doctor Nord at Lakeshore at St Lukes South Shore.

flyin_blue_egg
07-06-2010, 11:21 PM
well her primary dr. recomended she go to asfari

Prince Valiant
07-07-2010, 12:10 AM
well her primary dr. recomended she go to asfari
I'll say this, because "recommending ortho surgeons" is really a BIG part of what I do for a living.

Take a primary doctor...do they recommend "the best" as they know it? Do they recommend the doc they themselves would see personally? Heck no!

Primary doctors are generally parts of medical groups or of hospitals. If the primary doc is part of a group that employs orthos, or features orthos, then for the good of the group, the primaries are told "recommend these guys/gals..." or "If it's an X, recommend Dr. Y, if it's a Z, recommend Dr. X..." so on and so forth. A real test of a Dr's prestige among other dr's is how many other doctors see a surgeon as a patient themselves. That's not to say a doctor don't often favor people in their own system or even within their practice...but I'm sure there are more than a few doctors who never see other doctors as patients.

Other affiliated professions do this as well. PT's will often recommend their biggest referral source...so if Dr. P sends a PT clinic approximately 20% of it's business, I don't care how many complications/poor outcomes that PT clinic sees...Dr. P is "the man" as far as they are concerned.

People in medical sales are equally as guilty...oftentimes again, recommending their best customers (who are the docs), or to docs that they want to "get an in" with. I used to have a huge problem with a medical sales guy that would swoop in after a student was injured, and though we had the appt's already set-up, bad mouth a doc the athlete was referred to...why? Because that doc no longer did business with the medical rep, and it was through no choice of the doc even! What was funny was that this guy would talk about how he would see surgeons in the OR, which is certainly a great place to see a surgeon practice his skill...but lets face it, the guy had no training into what made a good doctor or bad one...he had no idea if the patient on the table received the best diagnosis, best treatment option, or the outcome of the patients he saw come through the OR. Fortunately for me, it didn't take too long for this individual to lose credibility with the parents/kids for the school I work at.

This isn't to say that people are referring you to bad docs...plenty of the guys on the list are fine docs. A couple, not so much...not that they aren't good surgeons, but that their clinical skills don't always measure up to their surgical skills.

If you like, you can PM me about some of the recommendations/whom you're considering going to...I know all but one of the docs mentioned, and not being known by me sometimes isn't a good thing, lol.

flyin_blue_egg
07-07-2010, 12:24 PM
I'll say this, because "recommending ortho surgeons" is really a BIG part of what I do for a living.

Take a primary doctor...do they recommend "the best" as they know it? Do they recommend the doc they themselves would see personally? Heck no!

Primary doctors are generally parts of medical groups or of hospitals. If the primary doc is part of a group that employs orthos, or features orthos, then for the good of the group, the primaries are told "recommend these guys/gals..." or "If it's an X, recommend Dr. Y, if it's a Z, recommend Dr. X..." so on and so forth. A real test of a Dr's prestige among other dr's is how many other doctors see a surgeon as a patient themselves. That's not to say a doctor don't often favor people in their own system or even within their practice...but I'm sure there are more than a few doctors who never see other doctors as patients.

Other affiliated professions do this as well. PT's will often recommend their biggest referral source...so if Dr. P sends a PT clinic approximately 20% of it's business, I don't care how many complications/poor outcomes that PT clinic sees...Dr. P is "the man" as far as they are concerned.

People in medical sales are equally as guilty...oftentimes again, recommending their best customers (who are the docs), or to docs that they want to "get an in" with. I used to have a huge problem with a medical sales guy that would swoop in after a student was injured, and though we had the appt's already set-up, bad mouth a doc the athlete was referred to...why? Because that doc no longer did business with the medical rep, and it was through no choice of the doc even! What was funny was that this guy would talk about how he would see surgeons in the OR, which is certainly a great place to see a surgeon practice his skill...but lets face it, the guy had no training into what made a good doctor or bad one...he had no idea if the patient on the table received the best diagnosis, best treatment option, or the outcome of the patients he saw come through the OR. Fortunately for me, it didn't take too long for this individual to lose credibility with the parents/kids for the school I work at.

This isn't to say that people are referring you to bad docs...plenty of the guys on the list are fine docs. A couple, not so much...not that they aren't good surgeons, but that their clinical skills don't always measure up to their surgical skills.

If you like, you can PM me about some of the recommendations/whom you're considering going to...I know all but one of the docs mentioned, and not being known by me sometimes isn't a good thing, lol.


never thought of it that way....the dr. she recommened does work for the same group that she does....but we already made an appt. to see him as we wanted to get it done and over with....so what do you know about this guy that we chose??

Prince Valiant
07-07-2010, 01:46 PM
....so what do you know about this guy that we chose??He is a newer guy from a medical group I don't have too much direct experience with (they are aurora affiliated, and I've have never been aurora employed...), so there isn't much good or bad to say. He is a hand/UE specialist, that I know...and he is an osteopath (DO), not a medical doctor (MD). Why might this be important? At least in the past, DO's usually didn't have as quality a residency experience since there are fewer osteopathic hospitals/schools and not quite as research driven as medical college/hospitals are. But many DO's will qualify for residencies at normal medical hospitals too...don't know if this is the case with Asfari.

So does that mean I don't recommend him for that reason? Oh no...one of the most knowledgeable and skilled orthopods I know is a DO...

He'll almost certainly fit the bill nicely for what you guys need...which is repeated x-rays to make sure it's healing and looking for any complicating factors. I suspect that you guys are not a candidate for surgery otherwise, the surgery would likely have already been done.

If you're unsure about the options he presents, you can always seek a second opinion.

Prince Valiant
07-07-2010, 07:32 PM
you could also try to PM kirks5oh too...he is an orthopedic surgeon.

flyin_blue_egg
07-08-2010, 01:09 PM
He is a newer guy from a medical group I don't have too much direct experience with (they are aurora affiliated, and I've have never been aurora employed...), so there isn't much good or bad to say. He is a hand/UE specialist, that I know...and he is an osteopath (DO), not a medical doctor (MD). Why might this be important? At least in the past, DO's usually didn't have as quality a residency experience since there are fewer osteopathic hospitals/schools and not quite as research driven as medical college/hospitals are. But many DO's will qualify for residencies at normal medical hospitals too...don't know if this is the case with Asfari.

So does that mean I don't recommend him for that reason? Oh no...one of the most knowledgeable and skilled orthopods I know is a DO...

He'll almost certainly fit the bill nicely for what you guys need...which is repeated x-rays to make sure it's healing and looking for any complicating factors. I suspect that you guys are not a candidate for surgery otherwise, the surgery would likely have already been done.

If you're unsure about the options he presents, you can always seek a second opinion.

We really don't know bout surgery yet as the hospital she got admitted to was out of my insurance network and they really couldn't give us a straight answer on surgery or not. her primary dr. said prob. but we won't know til later.

Prince Valiant
07-08-2010, 01:12 PM
We really don't know bout surgery yet as the hospital she got admitted to was out of my insurance network and they really couldn't give us a straight answer on surgery or not. her primary dr. said prob. but we won't know til later.
have an image of the X-rays you can post? I won't have a definitive answer, but a pretty good idea...and I know one on here would probably give you an excellent idea of what options might be presented to you.

flyin_blue_egg
07-09-2010, 12:45 AM
we went to see him this afternoon...he told us she has a butterfly fragment (meaning a fragment that is seperated from the main bone on both ends). he said we could do a brace or surgery, so she chose the brace.

kirks5oh
07-24-2010, 11:02 AM
95% of these heal uneventfully without surgery. i'd probably go with the brace if it were me, and the fracture was in the middle of the humerus. i don't know any of the trauma ortho guys in milwaukee, but this is a problem that any competent orthopod should be able to take care of. just make sure she keeps the brace on religiously. you can pm me a copy of the x-rays if you want--i'm an orthopedic surgeon who works about an hour north of milwaukee.

flyin_blue_egg
07-24-2010, 12:10 PM
95% of these heal uneventfully without surgery. i'd probably go with the brace if it were me, and the fracture was in the middle of the humerus. i don't know any of the trauma ortho guys in milwaukee, but this is a problem that any competent orthopod should be able to take care of. just make sure she keeps the brace on religiously. you can pm me a copy of the x-rays if you want--i'm an orthopedic surgeon who works about an hour north of milwaukee.


thanks but we already found one and have seen him twice