69 Road Runner that could probably be bought cheap

[pOrk]

5-7 grand ish maybe? Sounds like he doesn't know whats its worth, and neither do I so I am passing it on to BCM. Is this a deal? I dunno

http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80761

[STANMAN]

Haha, someone's going to steal that car. What a great deal for someone!

[pOrk]

Whats it worth?

[jbiscuit]

Pork get it

[GTSLOW]

Whats it worth?

More than a busa.

[BoosTT]

Holy chit! Thats gotta be worth more then $10k.

But, he does state: needs tlc, but doesent say what kind?

[STANMAN]

Just from seeing those pics, if the trunk is as solid as the rest of the car, $15K easy. More if it's a real big block car. More again if that's the original motor.

I would assume the "needs TLC" just because he's never ran the car, and knows nothing about cars. If you've ever been around a lot of Mopars, you know that's a hell of a clean Road Runner!!!

[sloLs1]

i like...

seems like a somewhat soild car... obviously needs a little attention but would make a good start to a project!

[lilws6]

i wouldn't mind an old mopar in my garage.....

[Prince Valiant]

honestly, if you know where to sell it, you could probably bring close to 20G imo...that's assuming it's not rusted to hell.

[70challenger452]

honestly, if you know where to sell it, you could probably bring close to 20G imo...that's assuming it's not rusted to hell.

Yep, agreed. One nice thing about old "race" cars is they weren't driven in shitty weather, so they're usually solid, but hacked together for the most part. It'd be an excellent candidate for someone looking to do a full rotisserie resto.

[97z2801ss]

how much is a busa? id love to have that thing

[GTSLOW]

This will spread. I'm sure it will end up in a good hands soon enough. Or he'll have it appraised and sell it.

[That_Guy]

It funny you posted this. I was talking to somebody the other day and they said they met a guy in brookfield who owns a 1969 and a 1/2 road runner? Anybody know anything about this?

[IcePickFreak]

Wow that looks like a steal. From what can be seen it looks like it's in pretty good shape. The interior shot looks like no carpet and the floor looks pretty solid minus some minor surface rust - to be expected for the car sitting for 5+ years.

If I were in the position for a project car I'd be all over that to at least go check it out, you don't find deals like that too often anymore.

[tommyt5078]

Looks like a headache and a money pit!!!!!

[WickedSix]

car looks nice was more interested in his avatar however...

[Moparjim]

Looks like a headache and a money pit!!!!!

Agreed. Its fairly clean but its tubbed, most likely not the numbers match motor, no interior, etc. Car is probably only worth $5-10K at best. I've seen numbers matching, NICE like recent paint rebuilt motor clean nice looking but not restored GTXs and Road Runners lately for around $20K. I recently almost bought (dont have the money) a B5 Blue 69 GTX, matching numbers, clean with recent paint, rebuilt everything, not restored but really really nice for $22,000. This car your looking at here needs $5K or more in paint and bodywork even though it looks "clean", not to mention not one single part on it is nice. Stuff like the air grabber parts, bumpers, grille, trim, etc. would nickel and dime (more like $50 and $100) you to death, not to mention the shape of the motor, trans, etc. and the a few grand for the interior.

Hell I sold my Charger a few years ago for $25K, probably would only get around $20K or less now and it was spotless, recent paint, never rusted tubbed or anything like that all original body panels and it had a $10K Muscle Motors 496 in it, auto, dana 60, you name it everything was new and brand new in appearance.

If you could do your own body, paint, interior, mechanicals is the only way this car would be a money maker for anyone. Otherwise you'd have thousands and thousands and thousands into it to end up with a car thats worth $20K at best. If it is the numbers matching 440 which I doubt that changes things a little but not too much.

P.S. every Road Runner 68-70 was a big block - 383, 440, 440-6, or 426 Hemi.

[Moparjim]

Also, there's little chance it ran 9.50 lol. Not with a 440 with Mopar stage % iron heads and an old TM7 manifold and 900 Holley and judging by the looks of the rest of the car. I seriously would not be surprised if it was only a 12 second car, I'd be shocked it it cracked into the 10s.

[Prince Valiant]

I agree that it's never been 9.5...stage 4 heads? I'm not even sure when they were available, lol. Though to be fair, there are some hitting 10's with factory iron, NA...but that car is is just too much a mix of odd-ball stuff (aforementioned TR7 intake) and not enough of other things, like I believe the proper cage to have truly been a 9.5 car back when.

So after looking closer after jim's critique, I'll revise my original estimate from near 20 to 7-10G

My worry about this car, and why I wouldn't put my own money into it without really looking closely is that due to the parts that I can see, this could be one of those left-over pro-sheet conversions from the fad in the mid 80's where everything was being tubbed to look like a real pro-street racer...and many were poorly done. Heck, more than a few "pro-street" conversions ran stock six cylinders or basic small blocks, or just haphazardly thrown together engines that sounded the part, but were slow as all get out. One thing that makes me think this is that the kid says "it ran 9.5 the one time my old man had it at the track..." Well, now we know it wasn't a dedicated built race car

Even when you got a decent engine in many of them, they were far from race ready...many were not fast as a result, and difficult to "get right" and this certainly could be one of those.



P.S. every Road Runner 68-70 was a big block - 383, 440, 440-6, or 426 Hemi. C'mon Jim! you couldn't get a single 4bbl 440 in the Roadrunners of 68-70! :goof

It was 383 coyote duster (440 heads/cam/manifolds) 335hp, 426 hemi, and 69 1/2 came the 440 6bbl.

[Moparjim]

Sure you could, its called a GTX :goof

I guess your right its technically not a Road Runner.

[Torch Red Gt]

If you don't mind me asking was the B5 blue GTX for sale locally

[Sprayaway Fox]

Shit I would take it for 5 grand. A damn rear quarter panel goes for over a grand and thats not put in yet. Id give it a good wax job and freshin up the motor throw some carpet down and be out on the BLVD with it...... Hell if this was up in upper mich I would go get it.

Once you go modified to make it stock it costs 2x the amount of money to get it back to stock.

Just leave it modded and you would still make out ahead with a little time in it.

[IcePickFreak]

Yeah, honestly I wouldn't get caught up in all the numbers matching stuff especially when something has been torn apart for racing. It looks like a good base to start with for a fun street/strip car if you could get it for $5-7k. Obviously though you're gonna want to look it over in person before you throw any money down, but could be a promising prospect for someone.

[Moparjim]

If you don't mind me asking was the B5 blue GTX for sale locally

No it was out east somewhere it was on Moparts a few months back. I see road runners and gtxs all the time now for around 20k nice cars that would have been 30k or more a year or two ago before the crash. Gtxs especially, for some reason they seem cheaper or as cheap as road runners when technically they should be more. Chargers are still a bit more but even those are getting down to the 25k-30k range for nice big block cars. I saw an RTSE 440 4 speed for under 30k somewhere recently, that would have been a 40k-50k car a few years ago.

[Moparjim]

yeah I agree it would be a nice street strip car for the price if you could get it for 5k-10k. I was just pointing out that is about all its worth as it would nit be worth trying to make it nice in todays market. It looks like the kind of car that will never be "nice" again since it would take so much work and parts to make it nice and return it to original enough to have it be worth 20k-25k or whatever. It would be a really decent driver and strip car maybe with a bit of work.

[Moparjim]

3 minutes on Ebay and heres an example. $19,500 no reserve on this MATCHING NUMBERS 69, very nice - not "restored" or "perfect" but super nice and matching numbers, newer paint, rebuilt motor, etc.

Now take a look at the pics of the car in this post and think how much time and money it would take to make it as nice as the Ebay car...

[Moparjim]

Holy shit this is even better. Very similar to the GTX I mentioned earlier for whoever was interested...

MATCHING NUMBERS GTX, $19500 OR OFFER LOL

Prices are falling daily it seems.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-GTX-440-1968-Pylmouth-GTX-Super-Commando-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3a5bc2ad85QQitemZ25064 7588229QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

[Moparjim]

$15K with matching numbers block included. Not bad.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-GTX-440-1968-Plymouth-GTX-440-/220619733407?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item335df5f99f