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Lash
05-15-2010, 06:49 PM
How much longer before he gets the boot?

jbiscuit
05-15-2010, 07:01 PM
Hopefully soon. Today was one of the worst managed games yet under his leadership. Put Suppan in as a reliever when you are already down by a significant margin? Seriously? I was at the game today and the entire stadium boo'd him. Prince's comments after yesterday's game were spot on. The pitching is horrendous right now. The hitting generates 6-7 runs a game yet we allow 9+ runs. It's a joke.

PB86MCSS
05-15-2010, 10:15 PM
I think the only time Suppan should be in is there is a big lead either way, I wouldn't want to see him in a close game.

The Brewers fancy themselves as contenders so the pressure is on Macha, I personally think they should shake it up a bit and let Parra and Cappy (soon) get into the rotation and see what they can do. At least there is potential there, let them work it out and build for the future while trading/dumping the veterans that cost money (Davis, Suppan to start). I rather see that then a mediocre team struggle for .500 for the next couple years before the bottom drops out. If everything breaks right, they are a contender....really don't see it happening this year as we are about 1/4 through.

jbiscuit
05-16-2010, 07:57 AM
If they wanted to be a serious contender this was the year. We effed that up by not buying any pitching which basically made a carbon copy of last year's team prior to the start of the season. We'll lose Prince next year, Cory Hart is way overpaid and is sucking up too much money...we do need to cut the veterans and dead weight and buy some pitching tho next season will be a tad late I think.

Deggy
05-16-2010, 08:01 AM
Don't even get me started on players that should be given the boot and shit like that...

Sure we can put a shit load of runs on the board against teams shittier than us, but we can't do shit when we play teams that actually matter... Macha won't be around very long.

Lash
05-16-2010, 09:06 AM
It's funny that Macha is probably on his way out and Yost (even though he sucks too) just took over in KC...lol.

wheelsofsteel
05-17-2010, 02:28 PM
My Prediction..... Macha is fired on 5/24/10. :shades

DirtyMax
05-17-2010, 02:43 PM
^^Yup....

Right after the Twins put the broom to them.....

jbiscuit
05-17-2010, 03:44 PM
hmmm interesting thought. I hope it comes true! he has been given a shot. He is a lackluster, terrible manager. Time to go.

Lash
05-17-2010, 04:31 PM
My Prediction..... Macha is fired on 5/24/10. :shades

It only makes sense to do it on their first off day.

Silver350
05-17-2010, 06:16 PM
Another thing is why do you keep having weeks lead off when all the guy does is strike out. 46 strike outs already in the season and he has Jody batting in the 8 spot behind Zaun.

PB86MCSS
05-17-2010, 11:03 PM
I'm not sure who would lead off, I prefer Weeks there over anyone else, unless Escobar starts playing up to his potential, or Gomez learns how to work a count and just get on base.

Most managers aren't difference makers, the team plays to their talent level...a terrible manager can cost a few games, a good one can win a few.

flyin_blue_egg
05-18-2010, 11:04 AM
I'm not sure who would lead off, I prefer Weeks there over anyone else, unless Escobar starts playing up to his potential, or Gomez learns how to work a count and just get on base.

Most managers aren't difference makers, the team plays to their talent level...a terrible manager can cost a few games, a good one can win a few.


i'm with you on that one...yea a manager is the one that needs to see that a guy isn't performing and remove him from the lineup (regardless of how much $$ he makes). but to me no matter what it all comes down to how the players play. really i think that if a team underperforms it should be the GM that goes as he's the one that puts the team together.

Karps TA
05-18-2010, 11:29 AM
I believe teams are reflections of their managers. Macha's blank stare while doing nothing all game makes me miss Ned Yost's blank stare.

Perfect example was on Saturday. Early in the game, man on 1st, batter hit either a bunt or a real soft grounder. Zaun picks it up and fires 4 feet over the head of whomever was at 2nd base instead of going to first for the easy out. Look into the clubhouse, there's Macha in the background staring blankly. Randolph in front of him is mouthing "What the fuck are you doing?" and showing some fire like he actually wants to win the game.

Macha's relliance on the old farts is what's really getting me going though.

I'm not pleased with what Melvin added to the team this year, but it's not like he had a lot of choices. There was not alot of pitching out there to be had. And the few big name arms, were like $20 mil a year. The team can't afford a better pitching staff. There only hope is to develop something, which doesn't seem to be anytime soon.

The Pitching staff I can deal with, it's the offense that disappears too much IMO. Either they score double digits or their lucky to get 2 runs. Anytime this team doesn't score 5-6 runs I put the loss on the hitters. There's no excuse for them to not score that much.

Deggy
05-18-2010, 11:37 AM
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z6/deggyfresh/yost1.jpg

Silver350
05-18-2010, 02:01 PM
Well good to see Macha made this List.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ti-managers051710

Also JSonline Poll: Are you confident that Manager ken Macha can turn the Brewers into winners this season. 94% said no.

Karps TA
05-18-2010, 03:48 PM
LMAO at that article. Where did they find the picture of Macha showing emotion?

At the very least the bullpen coach has to be fired at this point. Like today.

PB86MCSS
05-18-2010, 06:44 PM
I saved the picture from last year on the front sports page of the JS, with him cropped into a boat with the saying "stormy water" or something cheesy. Too funny.

As I was saying....time to re-tool for 2011 and beyond. Punt on 2010 and dump the vets who aren't part of the future and get some young talent in return, if possible. I think there is pressure from ownership and how good attendence has been, making them afraid of showing they are giving up on this year even though they must think it might be in their best interest to work for the future. But winning sells tickets, build the right way and fans will be back. Better than mediocrity.

Lash
05-20-2010, 12:42 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100520&content_id=10235984&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

:rolf:rolf:rolf:rolf:rolf

70challenger452
05-20-2010, 11:35 PM
Until Melvin cuts Suppan, he is not willing to do whatever it takes to win. Right now he's looking out for his own ass and by not admitting fault in the signing. And why did it take 5 blown saves in 10 opportunities before Hoffman was pulled as the closer? I'm not sure, all I know is that the young guys that were given the opportunity to do what they were not given to do in the beginning, came up big. What I mean is, Narveson started, Axford pitched relief for a couple and Villa, our best reliever this year, was given the save opportunity. Other people should be given the opportunity to produce when the regulars arn't. Today was proof of that.
On a side note, is anyone else excited to see Zaun go to the DL so we can see what Lucroy can do?

PB86MCSS
05-21-2010, 12:23 AM
Pretty sure vote of confidence = kiss of death :D .

I can see Attanasio as a meddling owner, not wanting to cut Suppan. Maybe I'm wrong though. Melvin has done a very nice job as GM in his tenure, not perfect but no GM is. The Brewers operate on a fine line and always will have to take more risks than big market teams.

Glad some young guys are getting a chance. Estrada, Axford, now Lucroy. Some fresh blood and youth, lord knows the team needed something.

wheelsofsteel
05-25-2010, 07:57 AM
DAMN !!! He actuallyt survived 5/24/10. :fire

DirtyMax
05-25-2010, 01:07 PM
After he just let that assbag umpire lay into Bush and didn't go out there and rip his head off, how can any of the players have any respect for him?!?!? That was the breaking point for me....

Karps TA
05-25-2010, 01:21 PM
After he just let that assbag umpire lay into Bush and didn't go out there and rip his head off, how can any of the players have any respect for him?!?!? That was the breaking point for me....

Even more so, he see's Bush's head is out of the game and he lets him get roughed up for 3 more runs before getting him out of there. Macha loves running up his pitcher's ERA's when they are struggling.

jbiscuit
05-25-2010, 01:28 PM
^ truf!

PB86MCSS
05-25-2010, 04:46 PM
What are the chances everyone will be annoyed by the next manager? :goof

Karps TA
05-25-2010, 05:49 PM
Depends on whether or not he does stupid shit constantly. lol So I'll say about 99.9%

Karps TA
05-26-2010, 07:46 PM
On a positive note, Zaun might be done for the year with a torn labrum in his shoulder.

So we'll be forced to play young guys at catcher.

jbiscuit
05-26-2010, 09:44 PM
holy shit Zaun is hurt? I'm shocked such a young guy like him could get hurt playing such a lackluster position such as catcher. Amazing!

Flicktitty
05-26-2010, 10:16 PM
On a positive note, Zaun might be done for the year with a torn labrum in his shoulder.

So we'll be forced to play young guys at catcher.

say what you will, that guy sucked early in the year but he really started becoming a pretty solid person.

Lash
05-26-2010, 10:17 PM
I think the Brewers should make a move for Oswalt. Nows the time. The guy can't wait to get out of there and he'd be the best pitcher we have on the roster.

70challenger452
05-27-2010, 04:02 AM
I think the Brewers should make a move for Oswalt. Nows the time. The guy can't wait to get out of there and he'd be the best pitcher we have on the roster.

I doubt he'd waive his no trade clause to come here. He wants to go to a contender.

Karps TA
05-27-2010, 07:40 AM
say what you will, that guy sucked early in the year but he really started becoming a pretty solid person.

His bat was coming around, but he can't throw worth a shit. And maybe that's shoulder related, but I've never seen him throw anybody out. Seems like I see him miss 2nd base more then make it.

At this point, there is ZERO point to sticking with these old guys. Go young and see what the kids can do.

jbiscuit
05-27-2010, 08:09 AM
Can we just whipe out the entire team before the trade deadline? Well, keep Brauny and McGehee perhaps. Maybe Yo also. But everyone else can go. Well, OK. Keep Counsel too but only cuz he is the only player ever to play here with a permanent residence :rolf Prolly cuts his own grass and shops at WalMart too!

PB86MCSS
05-28-2010, 05:07 PM
At this point, there is ZERO point to sticking with these old guys. Go young and see what the kids can do.

This is the truth. Some of the young guys are showing some signs too, Axford anyway hopefully Lucroy. Ain't winning anything this year, start getting ready for 2011 and beyond.