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Prince Valiant
04-08-2010, 11:00 PM
Entertaining read:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/1006_2011_ford_f250_2010_ram_2500_comparison/index.html

(what's up with the f-250 styling though?!?)

BAD LS1
04-09-2010, 08:54 AM
64K for the ford!!! WHOLY FUCKERBALLS!!! All that torque and power from both and they still runs mid 16s stock?? WTF??? I understand they will each respond well to tuners, but damn one would think alot more performance should be there right out of the box.

Prince Valiant
04-09-2010, 08:56 AM
64K for the ford!!! WHOLY FUCKERBALLS!!! All that torque and power from both and they still runs mid 16s stock?? WTF??? I understand they will each respond well to tuners, but damn one would think alot more performance should be there right out of the box.It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy and Dodge turn the wicks up to to match the Ford's 735ft-lbs of torque.

Waver
04-09-2010, 09:09 AM
Tom, that 64k price tag on the 250 is for a fully loaded King Ranch Supercrew, which is one step above the lariat. you can count on the truck being 20k less in xlt form, which is what the average person who buys the diesel 250 wants..........

BAD LS1
04-09-2010, 10:01 AM
Tom, that 64k price tag on the 250 is for a fully loaded King Ranch Supercrew, which is one step above the lariat. you can count on the truck being 20k less in xlt form, which is what the average person who buys the diesel 250 wants..........

God id hate to see what a "king expensive" dually runs!!

So it will be 55K for the lesser models and 45k for the blue-collar specials :goof

On another interesting note, that Urea injection, i just found out today that Urea and diesel fuel were some of the main ingredients on the OKC bombing!!! No better wayt o clean sout out of a cat i guess than that! lol

Waver
04-09-2010, 10:06 AM
God id hate to see what a "king expensive" dually runs!!

So it will be 55K for the lesser models and 45k for the blue-collar specials :goof

On another interesting note, that Urea injection, i just found out today that Urea and diesel fuel were some of the main ingredients on the OKC bombing!!! No better wayt o clean sout out of a cat i guess than that! lol


Lol I hear you on both points. Just think of how much a fully loaded King Ranch/HD edition dually runs:goof

Smokey1226
04-09-2010, 10:30 AM
ill stick with my 05' or a 06' cummins

Anakonda69
04-09-2010, 12:28 PM
I like my duramax. they can all keep their urea injection systems. stupid diesel emissions.

T-Bag
04-09-2010, 04:28 PM
Tom you have to remember these are easily 7500 lbs trucks. There is a lot of weight to move.

The prrices on new diesels is ludicrous...thats probably why used diesels keep increasing in value.

I really dont have much hope for this new ford ...but only time will tell.

DirtyMax
04-20-2010, 08:03 AM
It's going to be interesting to see what Chevy and Dodge turn the wicks up to to match the Ford's 735ft-lbs of torque.

Chevy's answer for 2011 will be 397/765. Makes my 365/660 seem wimpy... :goof

Prince Valiant
04-20-2010, 10:47 AM
Chevy's answer for 2011 will be 397/765. Makes my 365/660 seem wimpy... :goofI remember being amazed by trucks putting out 450-500 ft-lbs of torque, lol. Hard to recall the old 6.2 chevy diesel with something like 250 ft-lbs of torque...or even the 6.5 TD with a whopping 360ish :wooo

CarrotTop
05-01-2010, 06:44 PM
You can now do pricing on them for basic build

Pick motor, 4x4 or 4x2, axle, cab style, and box length.

http://bp2.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/2011-Ford-SuperDuty#page=/Style/

Cheapest looks to be about $36k

Plum Crazy
05-01-2010, 08:16 PM
Id still go with the Cummins, because you know you can get well over 250,000 miles out of one, it just depends on how the Dodge body and parts stay together. The highest milage Cummins ive seen was a 2004.5 with 564,000 miles on it and it was mint.

Prince Valiant
05-01-2010, 09:44 PM
The highest milage Cummins ive seen was a 2004.5 with 564,000 miles on it and it was mint.Million mile Dodge Ram Cummins (http://www.allpar.com/old/photo/edelman/index.php) :thumbsup

Yeehaw
05-04-2010, 08:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srn_fWBepK4&feature=player_embedded

all stock crew cab long bed, 15.9 with no launch and shitty 60 ft times but rudy avg'd low 16s all day

Anakonda69
05-05-2010, 11:07 AM
Chevy's answer for 2011 will be 397/765. Makes my 365/660 seem wimpy... :goof

got a link to anything with the new duramax in it?

DirtyMax
05-10-2010, 06:50 PM
got a link to anything with the new duramax in it?

Some stuff in and around this website...

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/03/gm-announces-best-in-class-power-figures-for-2011-duramax-v8-diesel.html

T-Bag
05-10-2010, 09:43 PM
lmao @ the Ram, straggling behind by HUUUUGGGEEE numbers on payload and tow capacity. Along with the 6.7 being fairly weak compared to the other two stock.

Prince Valiant
05-10-2010, 09:58 PM
lmao @ the Ram, straggling behind by HUUUUGGGEEE numbers on payload and tow capacity. Along with the 6.7 being fairly weak compared to the other two stock.What, do you think it's not a matter of simply turning up the wick? Like the 5.9 in your truck basically started at a measely 400ft-lbs of torque, yet toward the end was at 550-600ft-lbs...and lord knows capable of much more.

And despite the disadvantage, it appears per the actual test numbers, that cummins that was "fairly weak" still performed similarly to the Ford.

T-Bag
05-11-2010, 12:34 PM
What, do you think it's not a matter of simply turning up the wick? Like the 5.9 in your truck basically started at a measely 400ft-lbs of torque, yet toward the end was at 550-600ft-lbs...and lord knows capable of much more.

And despite the disadvantage, it appears per the actual test numbers, that cummins that was "fairly weak" still performed similarly to the Ford.

you completely missed my point. I'm not talking modified or turning up the wick...im talking NOW stock for stock. The tow ratings are not even close. Sure the test pulling a 6,000 lbs trailer is going to be pretty damn similar between all trucks because its well within their tow rating.

Also Dodge has always had the shittiest payload capacities and tow capacities compared to their counterparts.

Obviously I'd take the Cummins Dodge over the other two.

Prince Valiant
05-11-2010, 03:34 PM
What does dodge gas have anything to do with this? Even that's a fairly unsupportable claim, lol.

T-Bag
05-11-2010, 03:48 PM
What does dodge gas have anything to do with this? Even that's a fairly unsupportable claim, lol.

That was meant to be a HAS not GAS :rolf

Prince Valiant
05-11-2010, 04:55 PM
That was meant to be a HAS not GAS :rolfWell, even then, comparable models are fairly comparable. The ford has a 1,000lb advantage over the dodge towing, but that's not all that much when we're talking 17,600 for one, 18,600 for the other (comparable 1 ton's, not throwing out the 450/550 numbers like ford likes to do) and ~500lbs for payload 5200 vs 5700 payload...these aren't huge differences that make one "shitty' vs another.

Lord knows that though ford rates their 1/2 tons top, they aren't really what you want to be towing 11,000lbs with, lol...though their new 6.2 should rectify much of that.