Need basement/foundation repair, any recommendations?

[ND4SPD]

In the hopes of getting my house up for sale in about a year I need to get issues taken care of before then. Number one, and most expensive on the list is getting our foundation repaired. We have already had a structural engineer out and have his report (it's a year old now though). So does anyone have any recommendations for any good foundation repair companies? I've called CRC and Mudjackers (who came out but never returned an estimate), but I'd like some other options. Thanks in advance.

Wes

[Karps TA]

I had Basement Systems of WI come out to give me an estimate a couple years ago and can tell you they are crazy expensive.

[animal]

What are you trying to get done? Wall bracing or do you have to dig a wall?

When we bought our house last year it needed braces done before we moved in, they got some guy in germantown "all budget improvements" or something like that. Guy was kindof different, but got the job done all the same and i thought what the sellers paid was reasonable for the work done. Maybe he can help you? I really have no ties to this guy at all so you can tell him to get bent if he gives you a bad quote ;) Honestly i have no idea why i'm even helping him out here with the referral heh. Just a small private one man business. Check on credentials if he's doing something that requires it.

EDIT, found it.

http://www.bbb.org/wisconsin/business-reviews/construction-and-remodeling-services/all-budget-improvements-in-germantown-wi-44259438/

[Car Guy]

A good friend of mine has serious basement issues and said nobody but McCoy or American will be allowed to touch the work.....

[ND4SPD]

Well, it depends on who you talk to. The engineer's report said reinforce in-place, but Mudjackers seemed to think excavation would be required. Hence why I need more quotes.

Also, when you say "different", exactly what do you mean?

[animal]

Of course the guys that are gonna make MAD BANK to dig the wall are gonna tell you to dig the wall. That's why you hire an independant structural engineer not tied to any business that specializes in basements to tell you exactly what you need to do, then you follow his directives if you trust his opinion. If there's a chance you don't trust it, then why did you pay him for his opinion? The only worry might be that his report is a year old and the wall could've moved again. Some of those guys are cool about coming back for cheaper if you already paid them once. If you think they wall may've moved even a little it might be worth having him back out so you can make sure before performing incorrect repairs.

Not different in a necessarily bad way. Just more what I'd expect of a guy doing the work rather than running the whole business. He did come back at my request to fix something i wasn't comfortable with at no charge even though it was the sellers that hired him.

[pOrk]

If all you need is beams, do it yourself and save a few grand. Beams are EASY, just rent a big hammer drill and buy the beams, OR make them.

[ND4SPD]

This is really not something I'm comfortable tackling myself.

[Lash]

Do you have any pictures of the problem spots?

[animal]

Heh, posting pics, the bcm basement experts will surely let you know how to fix your walls :rolf

[Lash]

Heh, posting pics, the bcm basement experts will surely let you know how to fix your walls :rolf

No...but the structural engineers that I work with will. :rolleyes:

[Arigmaster]

Contact Cliff Verette Construction... This guy is one of the best in the state and is on the WAFRP board. I had him do my house in Stallis and one of my townhouses on the norf side. He's not as expensive as McCoy and he about wrote the book on basement repairs.

[VroomPshhTsi]

I use to work for American Foundation Specialists (in Hales Corners). Most customers were happy with the job. Not saying they are the best/perfect but they get the job done.

[animal]

No...but the structural engineers that I work with will. :rolleyes:

You need to measure wall movement in person to get an idea of whats happening with the wall, you can't just do it from pics. Any engineer that gives me an opinion based on a snapped pic of a wall is not an engineer that i want to rely on their work. Is there any local places these people have engineered so that I may cautiously avoid them? Thanks.

[LEWETHETIGER73]

I used mudjackers. Hands down the best I ever dealt with. I had to have the side of my house raised about 2" and they did it for cheaper then the others and have had no issues at all. All of the guys were very profesional and when they were done you could barely tell where they were. No muddy foot prints or ruts outside at all. Excellent job and Highly reccomended!!

[Lash]

You need to measure wall movement in person to get an idea of whats happening with the wall, you can't just do it from pics. Any engineer that gives me an opinion based on a snapped pic of a wall is not an engineer that i want to rely on their work. Is there any local places these people have engineered so that I may cautiously avoid them? Thanks.




Seriously....relax. It's not like their going to give an structural spec. on what to do based on pics. I just asked to GET A ROUGH IDEA of what were looking at here and how bad the movement is (also for my own curiosity).
Is it time to change your tampon? :goof



Jeeze....it must be hump day. :durr

[jamest]

When looking for contractors I reference NARI. MilwaukeeNari.org It gives you a list (by work type) of member contractors.

[animal]

Seriously....relax. It's not like their going to give an structural spec. on what to do based on pics. I just asked to GET A ROUGH IDEA of what were looking at here and how bad the movement is (also for my own curiosity).
Is it time to change your tampon? :goof



Jeeze....it must be hump day. :durr

And i stick to my previous -> :rolf

[awsomeears]

I can't recommend anyone but stay Clear from Ever Dry and Badger, Everdry is THE biggest hacks/scamers around !!!!!!!!!

I'm in basements constantly and see there work, since I'm a bright young fellow and always have a open ear customers just talk to me about them and HATE them. At least 6 customers with Hellish stories !!!

[pOrk]

LOL ^ Had ever dry come to my house for estimate ( I was entered in a 1000 dollar home depot giveaway for it ) and they wanted 32k to do a minor repair, BUT offered to do it at 20% off if I signed up the same day. Bunch of homos.

[LEWETHETIGER73]

Who's this ever dry company? Are they affiliated with Never Dry!?!? Maybe there twin companies, I wonder which one is the evil one?

[ND4SPD]

Well Everdry was out... sounds like their estimate is going to be ~$47,000 because all 4 walls are shearing. McCoy wouldn't give me an estimate because they wanted me to rip the paneling off the front wall (even though everdry noted that there was a bare area where a refrigerator had been near the bar). Even so it sounded like McCoy was going to be around the same amount. FVCK! and I was pissed when it was going to be $10k to $20k. So much for doing anything more with the car anytime soon... shit, I'll be lucky if I don't have to sell it to help pay to fix the damn house. So next up will be CRC and Mudjackers (again... we'll see if they actually send me an estimate this time).

[ND4SPD]

Everdry's final estimate was $37,000... still way more than we can really afford. Initially they were going to major-ex all 4 walls, then put pillars in every 48" or so and it was ~$47k. Then the guy (who was very nice) came back out he said he could do it for $37k... that they didn't need to major-ex all 4 walls. Huh, $47K - 20% is ... ~$37k. So the "buy now and get 20% off" thing must be a pretty common sales technique for them, so good call Pork. I was hoping when the guy said they'd cut the excavating down by half that the price would go down into the 20's... which would be getting into a reasonable range... but no dice.

As far as the engineering stuff, we had an engineer come out 4 years ago and again last year (and I'm strongly considering having him come out again)... even though it's $350 a pop. The two reports basically said the same thing, though all the contractors that have been out since seem to think the walls are in more than the engineer's report says. Too bad it's not buy 2 reports get the third free. I'll see if I can take some pictures, but basically all 4 walls have some amount of step cracking, and shearing. I keep hearing that virtually all the homes in my neighborhood have had, or will have the same problem eventually due to the soil composition (lots of clay).

Tomorrow's contestants will be Badger Basement and B-Dry. Then I have to see if I can get CRC and Mudjackers to come back. Forget McCoy... I didn't get a real good vibe from the guy when he was out. I don't think there's any point in calling American, because from what I hear they will charge just as much, if not more than McCoy and Everdry who already want more than we can afford.

[pOrk]

DO NOT USE EVER DRY, 3 people I know used them and all 3 were over charged and bent over backwards...

Call Accurate, they do good work from what I've heard

[ND4SPD]

DO NOT USE EVER DRY, 3 people I know used them and all 3 were over charged and bent over backwards...

Call Accurate, they do good work from what I've heard

I will do that. Thanks for the info.

[GTO RLY?]

When looking for contractors I reference NARI. MilwaukeeNari.org It gives you a list (by work type) of member contractors.

That's kind of a ruse though. Town & Country Electric/Faith Technologies is a member, and they suck balls like a lottery machine, plus they treat you like you're an idiot. Talk to Daryl Filipek (the guy who runs the place) and you'll know what I'm talking about.

As for basement guys, avoid Salinas 2 Construction like the plague. I cannot stress that enough.

[awsomeears]

Stay far far far......... far away from Badger !!!

They literally FUCKED up my friends basement, city inspector said " No permits were pulled even " and right now there is a large enough gap in the cinder block a baseball bat could fit in it...........

He bought the house based off this work getting done, it was done and I think in less then 2 years crumbled.

Personally be a member on Angieslist.com and check it out...........

[animal]

Heh, seems like this thread is pretty good at eliminating all basement repair companies for basement repair needs :goof

[ND4SPD]

Okay regarding Badger... they came out and we got a VERY attractive bid from them (not ridiculously low, but competetive) which also included a lifetime transferrable warranty backed by them and a default 25 year warranty from the manufacturer. I joined Angie's List and looked them up and they have overwhelmingly good reviews. So I guess I'm wondering if there's more to the story with your friend's basement. And if it started falling apart again, why didn't your friend pursue the warranty coverage?

[Car Guy]

Okay regarding Badger... they came out and we got a VERY attractive bid from them (not ridiculously low, but competetive) which also included a lifetime transferrable warranty backed by them and a default 25 year warranty from the manufacturer. I joined Angie's List and looked them up and they have overwhelmingly good reviews. So I guess I'm wondering if there's more to the story with your friend's basement. And if it started falling apart again, why didn't your friend pursue the warranty coverage?

Mike (our friend) had a VERY shady experience with Badger, essentially he was screwed out of the amount you are about to spend. I would never deal with them after learning about the entire situation first hand and with my own eyes.....:flipoff2:


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[Lash]

Okay regarding Badger... they came out and we got a VERY attractive bid from them (not ridiculously low, but competetive) which also included a lifetime transferrable warranty backed by them and a default 25 year warranty from the manufacturer. I joined Angie's List and looked them up and they have overwhelmingly good reviews. So I guess I'm wondering if there's more to the story with your friend's basement. And if it started falling apart again, why didn't your friend pursue the warranty coverage?

Badger is actually pretty well known too.

I guess it is possible for people to have a bad experience with even the best of companies from time to time.

[ND4SPD]

I need details people... because if if they are in the final running I'll hit them with the accusations and see if they have a response. It doesn't do me any good to say I've heard a coupld of people on an internet forum say that you screwed their friends over.

[ND4SPD]

I had two more contractors come out today All-City Mudjacking and The Mudjackers. All City took one look at one wall, didn't take any measurements and just said they had to excavate the entire house. The guy from Badger was here for almost 2 hours doing his measurements and built a quote on the spot (I think he spent most of the time on the quote building because I asked for separate quotes for the drain tile replacement and fixing the walls).

[Car Guy]

I need details people... because if if they are in the final running I'll hit them with the accusations and see if they have a response. It doesn't do me any good to say I've heard a coupld of people on an internet forum say that you screwed their friends over.

The story is very long and complicated, I literally spent hours talking with Mike about it. Badger might do great work but saw an opportunity with Mike's house to make quick/big $$$ by pulling a 'fast one' and did. Mike spent thousands trying to get somewhere legally and in the end could not compete with Badger's bank account.....

[ND4SPD]

Well I would like to hear some details for no better reason than I wouldn't want to let them do the same thing here.

[Yooformula]

out of curiosity, does any part of home owners insurance or home warranty cover this?

[awsomeears]

I'd love to give you mikes phone # but he's done talking about it, Mike is a ASE mechanic that knows his way around pretty much everything. He did his homework on basements and even questioned the guys that would come and tweak the bolts and say its working.

From when Mike bought the home till now ( 5-7 years ) the wall looked ok then just opened up and is falling apart, even when they came out to tweak the bolts is was messed up. I think Mike told them " Your not allowed back to tweak these bolts that are doing nothing "

Time to time even A+ companies have issues, could be bad materials or bad workers( out of there control )

But Mikes wall is so Split open that some of the other companies for Quotes said " go after badger " for money or to fix it the right way. Most other companies wouldn't say that because they want the job.

Theres really nothing more Car guy or I can say, its cool to fix a wrong and admit it and or foot the bill. But to just say Nope nada nada nada shows your a Con.

[SSDude]

Before you sign with anyone check them out on BBB and http://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xsl. You'll see more than just the opinions of Angies list.

[ND4SPD]

out of curiosity, does any part of home owners insurance or home warranty cover this?

I did check with my insurance agent about that possible aspect. The answer is "no". Homeowners insurance doesn't cover damage to the foundation via decay, hydrostatic pressure, etc... It *could* be considered "flood" damage, however you would need flood insurance and generally you would need to have 3 adjoining properties that had similar conditions.

I guess I'll bounce that scenario off the guy and see what he says.

See the problem I'm running into here is I've had 8 different contractors come out and give me 5 different stories (and they all bash each other of course). So who do you believe? McCoy, Everdry, All City all basically say you have to excavate the entire thing. Mudjackers says you only have to excavate some, Badger says you don't need to excavate anything, that you can push the walls in from inside. So WTF?

[awsomeears]

Before you sign with anyone check them out on BBB and http://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xsl. You'll see more than just the opinions of Angies list.

I thought BBB was the industry standard on checking on companies !!!

Angies list is nice because I have used it and I'm on there for jobs completed :thumbsup

[awsomeears]

Badger says you don't need to excavate anything, that you can push the walls in from inside. So WTF?

Exactly what they did to Mikes home, he lives in Oak Creek and well where he lived at one time was Lake so the ground is naturally wet. Looked good for a few years and then just gave way...........

Plus if all you need is beams per Badger Pork and I will do it for 3 grand because its just beams bolted to your floor and joists AKA does nothing if your walls are pretty well gone.

Now putting up beams in the early stages of basement wall bowing can fix it but again that's in the early stage.

I just left a message for my cousin to get back to me, he's been in the building homes trade for awhile and is partner with my uncle who's been doing it for at least 30 years. The should be able to recommend somebody, ill get back to this post with a possible #

[jamest]

See the problem I'm running into here is I've had 8 different contractors come out and give me 5 different stories (and they all bash each other of course). So who do you believe? McCoy, Everdry, All City all basically say you have to excavate the entire thing. Mudjackers says you only have to excavate some, Badger says you don't need to excavate anything, that you can push the walls in from inside. So WTF?

I have called in to the Mr. Fix It show on 620wtmj with questions. Tom provides some great suggestions on the best route to take with your project.

http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/mrfixit

[ND4SPD]

Yeah well, we had a problem with a landscaper that didn't finish the job and just left us hanging... the BBB did jack shit about it.

[Deggy]

Call Dun Rite Contractors. It's my uncle's company that I was working for. Tell him Nick DeGroot, his nephew told you to call. I'm sure he will give you a reasonable price.

414-791-0432 ask for Tom.

[ND4SPD]

Northeast Corner
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Northwest Corner

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[awsomeears]

I'm not a pro but I can't see why you wouldn't excavate all 4 sides !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those are some healthy cracks that there's no way you can just use beams & Magic to straighten them out, the TON's of pressure on all 4 sides is probably impressive to say the least....

How much was the Quote to dig out on all 4 side and get it done, unless I missed it you haven't posted $$$.

EK construction just lifted a house down the block from me, looked liked one hell of a Job. There located in South Milwaukee.....

[ND4SPD]

The quote was about $47,000 to excavate all four sides. Partial was $36,000.

[Lash]

Damn....thats pretty bad. Looks like you have some drain tile issues as well....you can see the moisture soaking through the block. It's never good when a CMU block cracks down the middle instead of the mortar joint.
Pretty much looks like you may need to start from scratch.
I wouldn't go with anything less than an excavation around the entire house to at least check out the drain tile and backfill along the walls.

[ND4SPD]

Well that settles it, I'm having the engineer come back out. If he says dig, I guess we dig. I'm tired of having one contractor tell me I have to dig the whole thing, and another saying I don't. For all I know the ones that say "dig" may just want the extra green. Although I suppose I could just go out to HD and get a laser level do my own measurements, read up on the WAFRP standards at http://www.wafrp.com/WAFRP_Standards_2008.asp#cond8

[animal]

Holy balls. :eek: Seeing those pics makes me feel pretty good about my basement walls. Please keep us posted with what the engineer says.

[Lash]

Think of it this way...

a lot of the time support braces/external wall anchors are just a band aid to cover the real problem. Do it right and fix everything the first time so you or any other future homeowner doesn't have to deal with a mess. You don't want that kind of karma...lol.

[ND4SPD]

Think of it this way...

a lot of the time support braces/external wall anchors are just a band aid to cover the real problem. Do it right and fix everything the first time so you or any other future homeowner doesn't have to deal with a mess. You don't want that kind of karma...lol.

I know, but at this point we only have so much equity to work with as it is. At this point the only estimates we've received that have involved excavation have hit $37k+. We don't have that kind of money. If we wipe out all of the equity in the house we'll be stuck here because thanks to the sub-prime crisis we probably won't be able to buy our next house without ~20% down. Hell we can't even sell the house "as-is" because there's no way a mortgage company will touch this house because they're all still selling them to the government. Even though we've been responsible (the balance of our home equity was put into the house) and "done it right"... the f'ing libs in government are tripping over themselves to give money to people who've massively over-extended themselves... but screw people like us who've been responsible. I'm going to laugh my ass off when the Democrats go down in flames this fall because they deserve every goddamned lost seat.:fire Redistribute this! :flipoff2:

[Lash]

Well...



you could always start it on fire.

[ND4SPD]

Yeah... well, I can certainly understand why someone would at this point.

[awsomeears]

How about this...............

I think you already know at this point all the walls need to be redone and excavated around it at a Big Price tag, whats so wrong leaving it like this for the next few years ?

Then if something does happen you know the price tag and deal with it then ?

[ND4SPD]

We are planning on putting the house on the market in a year. Basically we got to this point by doing exactly what you said... wait and see. Had we ponied up and gotten the beams put in 4 years ago... we might have been able to skip the excavation. BUT, that was when my wife and I first got married, had two mortgages (because I still had my condo) and the money just wasn't there. So, we need it done so we can get the house up for sale next March. I want out of this house because it's too damn small for the family (and me), plus, as you can see it's 50 years old and a serious money pit (even more so than any home).

[animal]

I know a guy that did all this himself. Probably not for the faint of heart however. Him and his dad have a landscaping company and they own their own backhoe. Between that and about 80 of those 8' floor jacks he raised the house about 12" on the jacks and did it all himself over the course of a month or two. I assume this is probably not an option for you, but it CAN be done. He told me it was a LOT of 8 hour workdays at work and 12 hour work nights in the basement but he did it just the same. Granted this is probably not a worthwhile suggestion for you either but I thought i'd mention it anyway.

[ND4SPD]

Definitely not an option for me. Don't have the backhoe and don't have the time with two young children.

[awsomeears]

We are planning on putting the house on the market in a year. Basically we got to this point by doing exactly what you said... wait and see. Had we ponied up and gotten the beams put in 4 years ago... we might have been able to skip the excavation. BUT, that was when my wife and I first got married, had two mortgages (because I still had my condo) and the money just wasn't there. So, we need it done so we can get the house up for sale next March. I want out of this house because it's too damn small for the family (and me), plus, as you can see it's 50 years old and a serious money pit (even more so than any home).

No way beams would have prevented those types of cracks, as LASH said its the mortar that gives because its not the actual block. When the block splits your talking major pressure from the outside.

I'm in basements literally everyday and see this all the time, its very rare to see blocks crack.

[ND4SPD]

Well, I guess they don't call this area "clay alley" for nothing.

[awsomeears]

I guess you have to weigh out 2 Options :

Sell home as-is in a shitty market w/ issues disclosed

Sell home totally redone in a shitty market and possibly get lucky to get more vs. home left in the condition. If were you gauranteed at least 50% return of that $50k invested then your out $25k

But if you got xxxx more for the home because of the work done that amount can be taken off the $50k basement fund.

But I'm not to sure you'd even get %50 back as the potential buyer will use the basement problems as a reason to slash the price.

My personal opinion is this Try to sell the home with issues disclosed, if they want to deal then Deal. If they say " I won't buy the home unless its all done " then Ok your back to this point witch is no shocker and you get the work done.

Spending $50,000 on something that the Investment Outcome or Return is unknown does not sit with me well as this is not Life or Death type of situation. Will the house still stand ? Yea. You said its common around there and how many homes fell over ?

Your better off dealing with the new owners, you may come out on top. Or hell Even witch is better.

Just my 0.02 :thumbsup

[animal]

If they say " I won't buy the home unless its all done " then Ok your back to this point witch is no shocker and you get the work done.

More likely banks will say "Can't buy home unless its all done." Any bank appraiser that comes in and sees that disclosed is going to look at it and note it for the bank to review. The likeliest outcome is that the bank will demand the work be done prior to issuing the mortage on it. I know my bank was real concerned when they found out the basement needed braces even. I had to submit proof of the completed work before final approval of the mortgage.

[jbiscuit]

the future buyer will have a really hard time securing financing with those cracks like that. The issue wouldn't be finding a buyer but rather getting the OK from the bank to do the deal. But I can see your point also of not wanting to dumb crazy money into the house only to lose your ass when you sell.

What if you got the work done but then revised your plan to stay in the house a few more years? The market turns around and people are eager to buy etc. Use it as a selling point (positive) rather than a negative?

[ND4SPD]

We already know that we would only be able to sell it to a cash buyer without the work being done because our own CU wouldn't even let us refinance it without the work being done (which became a catch-22 since we needed the refi to pay for the work).

The problem with remaining here (more appropriately in 'tosa) is AFAIK they don't do bussing for the school kids. That's a major logistical problem for us. I have to leave for work at 5AM to get to work on time so obviously I can't drop them off (or pick them up since I work 24 hour shifts). My wife usually drops them off at the babysitter at 6 or so and picks them up by 3. The later she gets into work, the later she has to leave work. So if she hangs around to drop them off at 7:30 or whatever, she won't get done with work until 4:30.

[awsomeears]

Ahh yes didn't think about them Locking you into doing it........ Dam !

[ND4SPD]

Mudjackers came back at about $28,000. I've E-mailed a few questions into Badger to see if they try to BS me. Looks like it's going to pretty much be a 4-wall excavation. Each contractor seems to be able to shave about 5 or 6 feet off a couple of walls, but that's about it.

[drewbird91]

ND4SPD,
I know this tread is more than 2 years old but curious what happened, who did you end up with? I'm in the same boat. This thread had a lot of good info in it.

[ND4SPD]

ND4SPD,
I know this tread is more than 2 years old but curious what happened, who did you end up with? I'm in the same boat. This thread had a lot of good info in it.

Glad you asked, well, here's what happened. Basically a fortuitous turn of events made things work out better than we could have imagined. That being a friend of the family was interested in buying our house for assessed value on a land contract (once the basement was fixed). Basically all of this really got rolling about a year ago and ended up with us moving into our new house just before Christmas of last year.

Anyway as mentioned all but one of the contractors came in north of $30k... we took the one that didn't require excavating... Badger Basement Systems which came in right around $17k-$19k. We talked it over with the buyers, gave them the estimates, engineering studys, etc... and they agreed that Badger's plan was acceptable. After dealing with something like 8 different SE Wisconsin foundation contractors I got the impression that there was a lot of money changing hands between the foundation contractors, one camp of engineers, home inspectors, etc... basically such that the inspectors would call anything but full excavation "crap" even if it wasn't required by the engineering report. One of the contractors even went so far as to say in a round about way they were trying to grease the local politicians to adopt *their* standards into the building code. The idea obviously is to drum up business for the foundation repair places and so on. We have three different engineering studies from two different engineers verifying that the recommended course of action was "stabilize in place".

Anyway, the buyers were VERY happy with the quality of the job and we're going on a year and I've heard no complaints. As far as I know they're finishing off the basement, it's dry as a bone, and everyone is happy.

[ND4SPD]

These are the only after pix I can get ahold of...


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[awsomeears]

I give it no more the 8-10 years......

Badger basements are Scum, you should go see my buddy's basement who now has almost one cinder block falling out, permits were never pulled and every SINGLE beam was installed wrong......

This is not hearsay its real, I have seen it and its a mess, my buddy was going to take them to court but he's broke as he was going threw a nasty divorce.....

Just my 0.02

[ND4SPD]

I basically took the concerns you mentioned and had them write it into the warranty for 15 years... if the blocks start getting crushed, falling apart, falling out, cracking, etc... they have to fix it. It's also the new owner's problem now anyway... unless they default on the land contract in which case we get the house back. The $30k-$40k estimates we got from everyone else just weren't going to happen. Had I gone with one of the other guys, I would have gone with Accurate. He seemed the most trustworthy out of all of them.

I guess I also forgot to mention that they re-did the drain tile and added a sump.

[awsomeears]

Well for what its worth the pictures you posted does not look anyway shape or form similar to my buddy's nightmare , maybe new crew I don't know ?