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u_say_go
03-08-2010, 08:07 PM
may be a repost from years past, but worth reading again.

A lesson in acceleration:
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First, some useful info:

* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower
than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.

* Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1= gallons of
nitromethane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the
same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

* A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive
the dragster's supercharger.

* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive,
the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition.
Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

* At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the
flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the
stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric
water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of
an arc welder in each cylinder.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2
way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves
at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel
flow.

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up
in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow
cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

* In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at
an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track,
the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed
reading this sentence.

* Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to
light!

* Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions
under load.

* The red-line is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.

* The Bottom Line; Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew
worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting all of this into perspective:

You are riding the average $250,000 Honda MotoGP bike. Over a mile up
the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter
mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the
RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and
past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec). The 'tree' goes green
for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you.
You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine
that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200
mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed
you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.


That, folks, is acceleration.

0TransAm0
03-08-2010, 08:10 PM
damn.. thats pretty cool

Russ Jerome
03-08-2010, 08:25 PM
That is an old one but never gets boring to read, just amazing.
Here is another ending paragraph for that:

You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered Corvette Z06.


Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start.

You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph.
The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you.

You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you.

He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

Plum Crazy
03-08-2010, 08:29 PM
that is crazy, some info i didnt know.

kornholio788
03-08-2010, 09:00 PM
No way in hell that thing would be a gp bike starting at 200 going across the line lol.

SSLEVO
03-08-2010, 09:02 PM
No way in hell that thing would be a gp bike starting at 200 going across the line lol.

:confused

whistlin six
03-08-2010, 09:29 PM
No way in hell that thing would be a gp bike starting at 200 going across the line lol.

Umm yeah it would. At 660 feet the dragster is already going approx.270 mph and crosses the stripe at over 330 mph. I know it sounds crazy but everything in that lesson in acceleration is true.

Silver86
03-08-2010, 09:34 PM
that was a good read! :thumbsup

MoCkiN U
03-08-2010, 10:37 PM
* Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1= gallons of
nitromethane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the
same rate with 25% less energy being produced.


Damn Dan, you worry about the bike winning.

I look at that and go WTF??? If Im on a jet for 5 hours going to san diego how much fuel must be on that jet?

kornholio788
03-08-2010, 11:05 PM
Umm yeah it would. At 660 feet the dragster is already going approx.270 mph and crosses the stripe at over 330 mph. I know it sounds crazy but everything in that lesson in acceleration is true.

Wow. That is crazy. Just crazy.

flyin_blue_egg
03-09-2010, 01:02 AM
That is an old one but never gets boring to read, just amazing.
Here is another ending paragraph for that:

You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter 'twin-turbo' powered Corvette Z06.


Over a mile up the road, a top fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start.

You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and pass the dragster at an honest 200 mph.
The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.

The dragster launches and starts after you.

You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you.

He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course.

you could actually change the ending to any vehicle that is capable of doing 200MPH. the point isn't that it could beat a vette or a gp bike, but the fact that it can run something down in a 1/4 mile that was going 200mph at the start while the dragster was standing still.

u_say_go
03-09-2010, 10:46 PM
I vote for BCM day at Joliet. Ask Whistlin' Six...I went for the first time last year and I'm absolutely HOOKED!

Al
03-10-2010, 12:19 AM
I swear, this thread is a double-repost. maybe a tripple-repost.

I tried the seach button, but the results come up differently from how they used to.

xxsn0blindxx
03-10-2010, 07:40 AM
you could actually change the ending to any vehicle that is capable of doing 200MPH. the point isn't that it could beat a vette or a gp bike, but the fact that it can run something down in a 1/4 mile that was going 200mph at the start while the dragster was standing still.

But at the end of the quarter mile a Toyota will keep accelerating and accelerating while dragster runs out of nitromethane or burns up the rest of its motor.

That_Guy
03-10-2010, 08:50 AM
But at the end of the quarter mile a Toyota will keep accelerating and accelerating while dragster runs out of nitromethane or burns up the rest of its motor.


now thats funny:rolf

flyin_blue_egg
03-10-2010, 11:15 AM
But at the end of the quarter mile a Toyota will keep accelerating and accelerating while dragster runs out of nitromethane or burns up the rest of its motor.


find me a toyota that could go faster then 300MPH

deuceWI
03-10-2010, 01:32 PM
Umm yeah it would. At 660 feet the dragster is already going approx.270 mph and crosses the stripe at over 330 mph. I know it sounds crazy but everything in that lesson in acceleration is true.

The math on the bike is quite a bit easier, acceleration of the car is more complex and most definitely not constant.

Say you're topped out at 200mph and hold that speed steady. You'll cover 1 mile in 18 seconds! And 1/4 of that in 4.5 seconds.

Should be a photo finish.

It's still pretty mind blowing.

What I wonder is what could a dragster be capable of if setup properly to run a 1/2 mile sprint?

torque.hit
03-10-2010, 02:50 PM
I did the math on it the other night. Your average F-body is 190" long. The top fuel dragster would win by 1.8 car lengths.

Russ Jerome
03-10-2010, 08:47 PM
find me a toyota that could go faster then 300MPH

http://www.teamkalitta.com/images/Scott_Kalitta_GTS.jpg
Dont ask Scott Kalitta about Toyota's stopping at end of track :(

lilws6
03-10-2010, 09:16 PM
find me a toyota that could go faster then 300MPH

this one?
http://www.toyotasimulator.com/

flyin_blue_egg
03-10-2010, 11:37 PM
http://www.teamkalitta.com/images/Scott_Kalitta_GTS.jpg
Dont ask Scott Kalitta about Toyota's stopping at end of track :(

the only thing that makes that a toyota is the fact that it says "toyota" on the front...i doesn't even look like one

lilws6
03-11-2010, 08:53 AM
looks like a camry to me :durr
http://jayautomotivemall.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/2010_toyota_camry_le.jpg