BEEYOND BUILT Peak!!!!!!! he won't let me take any more pictures

[BeesTwinEG]

watch out v8s.
First RWD Street Honda is coming soon near you!
car will have ford 9'
all chassis done by bee and the crew!

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd156/1slwcoupe/IMG00025-20100303-1244.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd156/1slwcoupe/IMG00024-20100303-1243.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd156/1slwcoupe/IMG00023-20100303-1243.jpg

[juicedimpss]

cool stuff there. what style suspension did you guys go with?
i assume there is room for more tire UNDER the wheelwell?

[07ROUSHSTG3]

you couldn't find a clean donor car for such a cool project?? wtf?

[Car Guy]

Very nice but :wstupid

[Exitspeed]

you couldn't find a clean donor car for such a cool project?? wtf?

That's what I thought. All that time/money into a chassis with rust. :goof

[Bobby "Big Daddy" Flay]

Hope the welds are good

[GTSLOW]

No offense, but looking at the quality of the car. I would NEVER want to catch a lane anywhere with that thing (strip, street, road course, etc..). I know you guys are making something cool but comon really? Not singling you out either because stew gets shit about his mustang too :goof

[nismodave]

Hope the welds are good

:rolf

[BeesTwinEG]

juiced - we're thinking more about link system but we'll see ;)
I donated the shell for free
can't complain when it's free and don't worry about the rust and paint.. it will be all bling bling when it's done.
most definitely i'd love to see this car in person when its done!!!

trans is going to be the big issue. our motor spins counter clock wise as all other motors that i know are clock wise......
just might have to go with g force dog box but it won't be a "true street car"
we'll just have to wait n see!!!!!!!!!!

the welds are just amazing by fabricator henry

[Flicktitty]

what about a s2K trans? couldn't you run that?

i know there is a 240sx guy that has a H22 swap that is rwd.

hope this actually happens i'd love to see it.

[Prince Valiant]

Personally, I think this is a cool project...but does it really need a 9 inch? Isn't that a bit of overkill?

[juicedimpss]

Personally, I think this is a cool project...but does it really need a 9 inch? Isn't that a bit of overkill?

i was thinking to myself that an 8.8 would be a nice cheap alternative and more efficient as well.

[nismodave]

Will it be ready for RACE WARS?

http://stlouis.metromix.com/content_image/full/381535/560/370

[07ROUSHSTG3]

^^^
it looks like the hoff in your avatar and the pissed off asian in that pic are having a "cool pose competition". the hoff wins hands down!

[ThatWhiteCivic]

interesting... when do you guys plan on it being ready to get down?

[sloLs1]

its still a honda...

itll be a little different so kuddos to you

[Flicktitty]

i was thinking to myself that an 8.8 would be a nice cheap alternative and more efficient as well.

wouldn't a 8.8 be a little lighter then a 9" too?

[Car Guy]

its still a honda...

Coming from someone who modifies Saturns......:goof

[UnderPSI]

Cool project, but I hope you get those holes in the rear bumper fixed. That looks pretty stupid.

[Prince Valiant]

Cool project, but I hope you get those holes in the rear bumper fixed. That looks pretty stupid.They're speed holes.

[Bobby "Big Daddy" Flay]

They're speed holes.

Weight reduction to offset the not needed 9"

Seems as if this project will be similar to Civette????????????

[UnderPSI]

They're speed holes.

I thought that's where the chain went through so they could lock it to the bike rack. Not sure how those holes are going to make the car go faster.

[sloLs1]

Coming from someone who modifies Saturns......:goof

twas why i still gave them kuddos...

[Prince Valiant]

speed holes are like dimples in a golf ball...the holes help break air's natural surface tension allowing the a small buffer of turbulent air to develop, and thus creating a smoother transition to the wake turbulence after the car...thus creating less drag and adding 5mph on the big end.

[Reverend Cooper]

why isnt it going to be streetable with a g-force,my buddies mustang is totally street driven with a g-force.

[Crawlin]

Congrats on getting it together, but....

you guys fail at the timeline stuff...

http://buildthreads.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/civette-ls1-powered-civic/

[Flicktitty]

Congrats on getting it together, but....

you guys fail at the timeline stuff...

http://buildthreads.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/civette-ls1-powered-civic/

there's more to getting it together then putting big wheels on the back of the car ;) lol.

[Car Guy]

Congrats on getting it together, but you guys fail at the timeline stuff.
http://buildthreads.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/civette-ls1-powered-civic/

The Civette has a V8; this Civic will have a 4 cylinder Honda engine.....

[badass88gt]

why isnt it going to be streetable with a g-force,my buddies mustang is totally street driven with a g-force.

You CAN NOT drive a GForce trans on the street. Just ask the experts on the Corral......

[Reverend Cooper]

^ I call Shenanigans

[badass88gt]

I cant tell you how many times Ive had that argument with people on that site over that.

[That_Guy]

^ I call Shenanigans


http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee185/sizzlemcsiz/RodFarva.jpg

[WhatsADSM]

Yea I kinda agre if you are goin to put that much time and money into a project you should really start with a decent chassis.

However, kudos for being unique. Take a picture so we can see what the civic looks like with an SRA in it.

[BeesTwinEG]

9' is kind of an overkill but better be safe than sorry.

s2k trans won't bolt up to B, D, H, ... except K-series.
why would you drive 15k trans on a street when its only built for racing??
u can't down shift.. if you try to down shift.. it will just grind and most likely mess something up in the trans. that is not a street car in my book.
far as chassis it will be redone... just that i gave it away for free... can't beat that! lol
This car will be a long process. :)
thanks guys

and u guys lost me on the kuddos.. what is that ? props?

[MoCkiN U]

"Kudos" is a Greek word meaning "praise." It's not a plural; the "s" is part of the word.

[badass88gt]

It depends what GForce trans you are referring to. If you are talking about the Dog Ring GForce T5, I have that in my daily driven Mustang, no grinds when shifting. If you are talking about the GF5R or the GF2000 that may be a different story. I know that the GF5R does come in a road race model so shifting would be no problem. Judging by the $15K price you mentioned you are not talking about the GF T5.

[Waver]

The Civette has a V8; this Civic will have a 4 cylinder Honda engine.....

You are absolutly correct, and that car is really a nice fab job........but can you really call it a civic any more, especially since it has more corvette stuff (suspension, engine, trans, wheels, rear end, even the seats, steeringwheel, and other misc interior bits) than it has civic.......

[twicks69]

WTF are you wasting your money on a GForce trans for a 9-second car????? It it totally unneccessary. Just do an auto -- get an adaptor plate made, and a custom torque convertor, and you are set for ALOT LESS money than the Gforce.

Good luck with the project. I hope you have a decently size turbo -- i.e. at least 74mm -- to really have some fun with the project if you are going to do a 9" rear. The Toyota IFS 8.8" is an excellent rear end that can be had for next to nothing with a multitude of ring and pinion ratios to choose from, and they can handle ALOT of horsepower.

As well, I hope you have some bigger slicks than those tiny ass tires on the back currently if you are intending on having serious power in that car. If you are only doing 400whp, then they will be fine.


Not meaning harm; just giving constructive criticism so you don't waste a shitload of money learning the hard way.

[BeesTwinEG]

WTF are you wasting your money on a GForce trans for a 9-second car????? It it totally unneccessary. Just do an auto -- get an adaptor plate made, and a custom torque convertor, and you are set for ALOT LESS money than the Gforce.

Good luck with the project. I hope you have a decently size turbo -- i.e. at least 74mm -- to really have some fun with the project if you are going to do a 9" rear. The Toyota IFS 8.8" is an excellent rear end that can be had for next to nothing with a multitude of ring and pinion ratios to choose from, and they can handle ALOT of horsepower.

As well, I hope you have some bigger slicks than those tiny ass tires on the back currently if you are intending on having serious power in that car. If you are only doing 400whp, then they will be fine.


Not meaning harm; just giving constructive criticism so you don't waste a shitload of money learning the hard way.

thanks tim for the recommendations!!
Far as turbo wise.. probably staying in 70-72mm wheel and it will divided t4. but who knows yet
I'm thinking of just 10.5 tires biggest but we'll see.
yea, of course i will not be spending 15k on a trans.. and can't drive it on a street lol. far as auto... no thanks lol. 9s??? Bee already hit 9s @ 150+mph with FWD... thinking more of like high to mid 8s. :stare at that kind of speed and power to weight ratio it can be done. but who am i kidding, i wish it was that easy lol.
but i'll have more when the car is done and drives! enough with teasing :goof

[LIZMO]

Simon - have you guy's looked into a 240sx rearend? there still run IRS but there are a few 240's in the 8's-9's on them. just do a good diff and axles and your set.

just a thought.

[WhatsADSM]

Simon - have you guy's looked into a 240sx rearend? there still run IRS but there are a few 240's in the 8's-9's on them. just do a good diff and axles and your set.

just a thought.

That isn't exactly true.

The R230 from the Z32 TT will take the power pretty reliably, and likely the Q45 based R200 rear end as well with the larger output shafts.

However the vast majority of the 240sxes out there are running a R200 with the weaker output shafts and axles. Sure you might be able to run fast on it once or twice, but in the end that would be a ticking time bomb.

IMO the Ford 8.8 as others have mentioned is probably the best bet if he plans to stick to drag racing it.

As for the trans Tim is right a standard domestic trans with an adapter kit would likely work best, however if the motor is rotating in a non-standard way then I'm not really sure it would work.

[Crawlin]

there's more to getting it together then putting big wheels on the back of the car ;) lol.

Don't know if that was aimed at me, but seems to me that pictures of the civette doing donuts kinda proves that it works perfectly fine?

hahah

[sloLs1]

Simon - have you guy's looked into a 240sx rearend? there still run IRS but there are a few 240's in the 8's-9's on them. just do a good diff and axles and your set.

just a thought.


hmmm i know a saturn with something like that! :goof




and it may have been over kill for me to use a 9in in my saturn but it was free and didnt need to be narrowed... maybe they just want to build it right the first time and dont want to fvck with it later on?!

[Russ Jerome]

Ford 8.8 from a late Explorer (disc braked, no loose axles), can be narrowed by anybody with a torch and welding skillz, under $300 to respline the stock plenty strong axles from Moser.
http://sites.google.com/site/shelbycoltrt/_/rsrc/1251429896752/home/169.jpg?height=160&width=200
I was sold after seeing steel body Mustangs go into the 7's with them.

[Moparjim]

You CAN NOT drive a GForce trans on the street. Just ask the experts on the Corral......

I drive mine just fine lol.

[Got Boost]

I saw this car on Howell a Puetz Yesterday AM...Asian kid drivin...

[70 cutlass 442]

You guys are fucking clueless.......

seriously, a 9? 1, there are full weight mustangs going 8's on built 8.8s.... mind you, these mustangs make torque.... I know you guys are foreign to that term, but im sure wikipedia can help ya out!
2. do you realize the extra ammount of power eating rotational mass that is there in a 9"?


Next, I give you guys 100% credit for this project, its brilliant, and if you can mass produce a kit for this thing and it works out, then im sure every pimpled faced 17 year old high school kid will be lining up to buy one.... but seriously, you guys want to be thought of as a reputable shop, and the best you can come up with is come POS craigs list special.... then you go and put them gay ass holes in the bumper.... wtf??


I wouldn't even deliver pizzas in a car that looked like that......

[juicedimpss]

another thought i have is if the engine spins "backwards" how will you convert that to the correct direction before the rearend?

[pnad]

btw, i'm no grammar nazi or anything but peak is not the same as peek.

Peak = high point or summit.

Peek = quick look or glance.

Just trying to help with your english.

[70 cutlass 442]

another thought i have is if the engine spins "backwards" how will you convert that to the correct direction before the rearend?

Ron, i know your new to this whole car thing and all, but my top secret intel from the beeyond guys have a simple solution this this said problem.... all you gotta do is flip the axle over and PAH, they be running 14s in no time.


btw, i'm no grammar nazi or anything but peak is not the same as peek.

Peak = high point or summit.

Peek = quick look or glance.

Just trying to help with your english.

I thought they were just advertising the brand of coolant they were running :confused

[Moparjim]

another thought i have is if the engine spins "backwards" how will you convert that to the correct direction before the rearend?

Put the rear end in upside down?

Get a "front end" from a 4x4?

:goof

[gottwins?]

Cool

Like everyone else said...shitty base for a nice project, but still cool.

[micro_machine]

sweet build Simon haven't been to the shop for a bit. But anyways that's gonna be a hot project ill come by Friday to take a look:thumbsup.

Btw- Let them express there opinion.....Thats why beeyond is still the only TRUE IMPORT TUNER SHOP IN MILWAUKEE haters make you better. Done here ya have a nice day. NOW GO find me some 20s big lip skinny 5 spoke for my TL simon stop wasting time. hehe.

[BeesTwinEG]

another thought i have is if the engine spins "backwards" how will you convert that to the correct direction before the rearend?

it will be a custom trans. it would be cool to put turbo 400 trans though :P

[BeesTwinEG]

sweet build Simon haven't been to the shop for a bit. But anyways that's gonna be a hot project ill come by Friday to take a look:thumbsup.

Btw- Let them express there opinion.....Thats why beeyond is still the only TRUE IMPORT TUNER SHOP IN MILWAUKEE haters make you better. Done here ya have a nice day. NOW GO find me some 20s big lip skinny 5 spoke for my TL simon stop wasting time. hehe.

SSR 3 piece on TL .... :drool:

[juicedimpss]

it will be a custom trans. it would be cool to put turbo 400 trans though :P

couldnt you have a cam ground to change firing order/engine rotation? you would also have to do something about the oil pump and starter,but that seems like it would be the easiest way to apply power to the back of the car.

[Prince Valiant]

I'm confused....How does customizing the trans change the problem with which way the engine spins? Should you get it so the pumps/etc do what they're supposed to do with regard to fluids/solenoids/etc, you'll still need at a minimum a custom ring and pinion so that the reverse rotation sends you in the right direction.

At this point I'd think the easier solution would be to stick a SBC in there, lol....

[DurtyKurty]

Put the rear end in upside down.....

What? It'd work. It's in a Honda... who'd care?

[Prince Valiant]

Put the rear end in upside down.....

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/87449d1220679673-funny-strange-random-pics-i-see-what-you-did-there.jpg

[Moparjim]

Put the rear end in upside down.....

What? It'd work. It's in a Honda... who'd care?

I suggested that a month ago lol. See a few posts up...