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07ROUSHSTG3
02-10-2010, 10:41 AM
about time!! sounds like they finally put a car together than will be capable of more than straight line running. was hoping to see a new motor like was rumored but this will do.

http://www.themustangnews.com/content/?p=454

not digging the smaller stripes though.

0TransAm0
02-10-2010, 11:46 AM
Nice. i will take one all black with flat black stripes and black interior

not sure if i like the glass roof...

07ROUSHSTG3
02-10-2010, 12:05 PM
Nice. i will take one all black with flat black stripes and black interior

not sure if i like the glass roof...

the glass roof sucks. go without it. :thumbsup

OxmanWI
02-10-2010, 12:18 PM
I like it, but then a roll over you're getting glass to the brain.

wrath
02-10-2010, 12:31 PM
Sweet. Let's all go to PTWA so a car engine costs to rebuild what a small jet does.

Dumbasses. All to save 8lbs? Next time I rebuild my Mustang I'm going to roll the block on over to the local PTWA shop and pay my $120 to have 'er done. :roflcopter:

Is it at least faster than a base Corvette yet?

PureSound15
02-10-2010, 12:58 PM
Smaller stripes FTL. The car itself is kind of growing on me, though.

BlueOvalBolt
02-10-2010, 01:08 PM
All to save 8lbs?

The PTWA coating saves 8.5 lbs. by not using a conventional steel-sleeved aluminum block. Overall weight savings of this engine versus 2010 is 102 lbs. according to Ford. The coupe total weight is 120 lbs. lighter than the 2010, including the engine weight savings.

Silver86
02-10-2010, 03:08 PM
really wish i could afford one

Prince Valiant
02-10-2010, 03:15 PM
The PTWA coating saves 8.5 lbs. by not using a conventional steel-sleeved aluminum block. Overall weight savings of this engine versus 2010 is 102 lbs. according to Ford. The coupe total weight is 120 lbs. lighter than the 2010, including the engine weight savings.I think the point he was making was that the PTWA coating to save 8lbs vs traditional sleaves now makes the block FAR more difficult to service when rebuild time comes around.

If the process yield say 40-50lbs, one could make the case that it's then worth the new expense and complexity of servicing the block...but 8lbs? Not so much. Rather invest in a smaller/lighter battery in that case.

Karps TA
02-10-2010, 03:28 PM
According to an article on Japolpnik

http://jalopnik.com/5467038/the-ford-engine-technology-good-enough-for-the-nissan-gt+r

That PTWA is actually less expensive a procedure then putting in liners.

Prince Valiant
02-10-2010, 04:18 PM
That PTWA is actually less expensive a procedure then putting in liners.
Then what do you do if you need to rebuild the engine? That's my concern with the process.

DRK
02-10-2010, 04:45 PM
Then what do you do if you need to rebuild the engine? That's my concern with the process.

We all know it will never be a 'lilredexpress' and therefore garbage, you can continue to bash elsewhere.

Prince Valiant
02-10-2010, 05:29 PM
We all know it will never be a 'lilredexpress' and therefore garbage, you can continue to bash elsewhere.

Who "bashed" it?

Dumbass Dramaqueen :rolleyes:.

VroomPshhTsi
02-10-2010, 07:28 PM
So they brag about shaving some pounds but unless I missed it, they fail to state the actual weight of the new car anywhere in that article :confused

FoxStang
02-10-2010, 07:33 PM
Wondering about durability? We did, too. Ford claims to have taken taken beat-to-hell durability-cycle engines with the equivalent of 250,000 miles of wear and, upon inspection, discovered that the initial hone patterns appeared brand-new — the piston rings hadn't polished them away.

Even with this seems like they're playing with fire. Might handle better but the Mustang isn't really a car you buy for cornering, seems like they would have designed in an IRS if they wanted that. Besides the weight, what was wrong with the old iron 5.4? From what I understand its quite the stout block. Oh well I guess we'll wait and see, minus the smaller stripes I think the new one looks quite sharp.

wrath
02-10-2010, 08:08 PM
The PTWA coating saves 8.5 lbs. by not using a conventional steel-sleeved aluminum block. Overall weight savings of this engine versus 2010 is 102 lbs. according to Ford. The coupe total weight is 120 lbs. lighter than the 2010, including the engine weight savings.

It's probably about cost. It's not cheap to have to argue with core shift plus you can run thinner cylinder walls/tighter bore centerlines.

PTWA was probably developed because they didn't want to pay for Nikasil or one of the many other plating processes.

I suspect they could have found the same weight loss in different front fenders or wheelhouses or any other number of things.

I used to race dirtbikes and ATVs when Nikasil was incredibly popular... it was cheaper most of the time to buy a new cylinder than to get it recoated.

BAD LS1
02-11-2010, 11:04 AM
Stripeless in black please! Sharp car! All the minor weight reductions remind of the effort that was put into the C5 Z06.

Feature Pony
02-19-2010, 05:56 PM
The dealer and I are going to talk about this combo

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/71383bee/Cruises/10%20Auto%20Show/IMG_1878.jpg

07ROUSHSTG3
02-19-2010, 06:41 PM
Stripeless in black please! Sharp car! All the minor weight reductions remind of the effort that was put into the C5 Z06.

x2. no stripes.

BAD LS1
02-19-2010, 08:46 PM
^^^^^ Man that MF'er looks good! Are the tasteless center stripes just decals? If so id be out ther with a heat gun and goo gone the day i got it lol

Feature Pony
02-20-2010, 12:41 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/71383bee/Cruises/10%20Auto%20Show/IMG_1879.jpg

those wheels are bad ass!!!

FoxStang
02-21-2010, 12:38 PM
Some pics I took at CIAS.
Not a fan of the glass roof, but love this color combo:
http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l390/GTEPWRD/IMG_1194.jpg
Like the wing on this gen better too.
http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l390/GTEPWRD/IMG_1196.jpg
http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l390/GTEPWRD/IMG_1197.jpg
http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l390/GTEPWRD/IMG_1202.jpg