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Korndogg
01-26-2010, 06:14 AM
Its actually pretty intense just watching it as a simulation with the radio.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tE_5eiYn0D0#t=109

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MoCkiN U
01-26-2010, 06:20 AM
that was neat

badass88gt
01-26-2010, 07:35 AM
Very cool to see.

moels
01-26-2010, 07:51 AM
Wow, that was cool!

GTSLOW
01-26-2010, 09:18 AM
Good find!!!

Prince Valiant
01-26-2010, 10:15 AM
very cool...have to say even the air traffic controllers did a very good job...helping to facilitate options/provide vectors and remaining very calm. Sully had the presence of mind to even continue to use the correct lingo speaking to the ATC...

I've seen other versions of recreating this incident, but I liked that this one also featured the communication b/w pilot and co-pilot.

Beagle
01-26-2010, 10:39 AM
Did anyone hear that they are auctioning off the plane? Or maybe they already did. no engine or anything. Auctioning off an unflyable crashed plane?......

jbiscuit
01-26-2010, 10:44 AM
wow, super cool!!

Yooformula
01-26-2010, 12:04 PM
I embedded the video link for you but damm that was intense!

88Nightmare
01-26-2010, 12:17 PM
Once reality set in and the pilot realized he was going to have to put it down in the hudson, he still seemed to keep his cool and stay focused to get the job done as safely as possible. very impressive

Yooformula
01-26-2010, 12:24 PM
there was another video with instructors and various other experts saying how this type of landing is never trained for and that so many other water landings had ended up as wrecks and that this was damm near perfect.

Prince Valiant
01-26-2010, 01:03 PM
there was another video with instructors and various other experts saying how this type of landing is never trained for and that so many other water landings had ended up as wrecks and that this was damm near perfect.I haven't seen that video...but much of what those guys were doing was actually textbook emergency procedures that every pilot learns. That specific type of landing (ditching) might never be specifically practiced...but everything else is constantly reviewed.

Right now, my instructor and I are simulating emergency procedures...which is required before solo.

Here's the gist of what I go through when she cuts my engine (first 3 occur concurrently):
1. Establish best glide speed
2. Scan for best field/runway/street...better too close than too far.
3. pull carb heat
-THEN-
remainder of the emergency procudures (fuel selector check/mixture/fuel pump/restart procedures), transponder code to 7700-the emergency setting, attempt to communicate landing location, turn off fuel/lean mixture/off fuel boost/off mags, open cabin door (don't want to get trapped in the plane if the fuselage deforms after landing), leave power on until below tree line or won't need to lower flaps anymore, make a good off-field forced landing. Then hopefully you can wait for someone to pick you up and congratulate you on a great off-field landing, lol.

Their restart procedures of course are different, and they hadn't even reached best glide speed...but it was very interesting watching what was there and how similar it is to the procedures I use for a 115hp two seat airplane, lol.

Right now to practice, my instructor literally cuts the engines and I'll fly it down to within 30ft of the ground for a forced landing approach, -OR- I'll simulate a forced landing at an airport like west bend.

In the flying handbook from the FAA, they talk about ditching procedures to the point of talking about how to make approaches with considerations for waves, planes float characteristics, how fuel affects that, etc...

...I think so few commercial airliners suceed due to the high approach speeds needed due to their mass...hitting the water at 150 knots (basically 172mph), the water is almost like velcro compared to ashpalt....as soon as the engines hit, it pulls hard to stop it. I think the skill was in hitting the water so evenly so as to keep the plane going straight and to keep it from breaking up; had it done so, most everyone would have surely died...if not from impact/breaking up, then from drowning.

Yooformula
01-26-2010, 01:32 PM
I haven't seen that video...but much of what those guys were doing was actually textbook emergency procedures that every pilot learns. That specific type of landing (ditching) might never be specifically practiced...but everything else is constantly reviewed.


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hrsp
01-26-2010, 01:36 PM
wow thats insane...where there any casualties?

Prince Valiant
01-26-2010, 03:05 PM
wow thats insane...where there any casualties?Not a one...there were some injuries, but mostly minor. Most serious was a broken leg (which compared to what COULD happen is still minor)

DirtyMax
01-26-2010, 03:10 PM
This whole thing is still absolutely fascinating to me.....

DirtyMax
01-26-2010, 03:15 PM
Did anyone hear that they are auctioning off the plane? Or maybe they already did. no engine or anything. Auctioning off an unflyable crashed plane?......

Here's where it was for auction but the site must have been getting too many hits...

http://www.aigaviation.com/aviationsalvage/salvagelist.aspx

Al
01-26-2010, 04:07 PM
...I think so few commercial airliners suceed due to the high approach speeds needed due to their mass...hitting the water at 150 knots (basically 172mph), the water is almost like velcro compared to ashpalt....as soon as the engines hit, it pulls hard to stop it. I think the skill was in hitting the water so evenly so as to keep the plane going straight and to keep it from breaking up; had it done so, most everyone would have surely died...if not from impact/breaking up, then from drowning.

What I would be concerned about is having one engine dig into the water and spins the plane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESJx5bJIP5o

Korndogg
01-26-2010, 07:07 PM
I embedded the video link for you but damm that was intense!


maybe I didn't want it embedded...... :goof

Yooformula
01-26-2010, 09:27 PM
maybe I didn't want it embedded...... :goof

nice try wiseass, thats why I left a link as well:devil:loser:punch::chair::goof:rolf

Yooformula
01-26-2010, 09:51 PM
What I would be concerned about is having one engine dig into the water and spins the plane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESJx5bJIP5o

that was a hijacked plane that the crew regained control of but ran out of fuel and couldnt make it to a landing zone. Almost all onboard were killed in the crash and most water crashes end up like that one.