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hrsp
01-21-2010, 09:12 PM
just curious as to what motor oil everyone uses?


And what Chemicals do you put in your cars?



5-30 Pennzoil platinum
I use Seafoam and STP fuel injector cleaner
Auto Restore Once a Year

BAD LS1
01-21-2010, 09:17 PM
the slippery kind

Car Guy
01-21-2010, 09:28 PM
Speedway 5w-30.....:goof

SSLEVO
01-21-2010, 09:58 PM
Mobil 1 in the cars i care about. Whatever's cheap for the others.

T-Bag
01-21-2010, 10:45 PM
Valvoline Premium Blue 15w40 in the truck

Valvoline 30w in the boats.

Lash
01-21-2010, 10:47 PM
Mobile 1 synthetic 5w20 in the Ram and Rav4.

FoxStang
01-21-2010, 11:05 PM
Unless something changed drastically recently, most of the common "synthetics" are the same group III oils, Mobil 1 isn't any better than the rest of the bunch, save your money. German Castrol, RL or RP synthetics are what I use when it's important, whatever group III is a good deal for the daily.

Car Guy
01-21-2010, 11:10 PM
Unless something changed drastically recently, most of the common "synthetics" are the same group III oils, Mobil 1 isn't any better than the rest of the bunch, save your money. German Castrol, RL or RP synthetics are what I use when it's important, whatever group III is a good deal for the daily.

This is a fact.....

SLOWC5
01-21-2010, 11:18 PM
castrol in everything

theavenger333
01-21-2010, 11:23 PM
Mobil 1 in the cars i care about. Whatever's cheap for the others.

exactly. regular old beaters get whatever's on sale, i just do not prefer pennzoil. i use seafoam also, in all its uses, fuel cleaner, oil additive, through the block and manifold.

88Nightmare
01-21-2010, 11:23 PM
Mobil 1 5w30 in the tbss, and whatever is the cheapest 10w30 regular I can find for all the other garbage around here. Generally, I find citgo case oil at farm and barn for about $16

lordairgtar
01-22-2010, 12:26 AM
Castrol oil. No additional additives.

SSLEVO
01-22-2010, 12:29 AM
Unless something changed drastically recently, most of the common "synthetics" are the same group III oils, Mobil 1 isn't any better than the rest of the bunch, save your money. German Castrol, RL or RP synthetics are what I use when it's important, whatever group III is a good deal for the daily.

But is the german castrol any cheaper than mobil 1? I've never been able to find the stuff anyway. I just get the big jug of mobil 1 from walmart, i think it's about $20-25 for 4 quarts.

1320PNY
01-22-2010, 01:02 AM
Unless something changed drastically recently, most of the common "synthetics" are the same group III oils, Mobil 1 isn't any better than the rest of the bunch, save your money. German Castrol, RL or RP synthetics are what I use when it's important, whatever group III is a good deal for the daily.

Recently? You mean since 1972? Group III is mineral based cracked hydrocarbon base stock. Group IV is a PAO synthetic base stock. Group V has been out for at least two years.

Go to C&S, buy Schaeffer oil for pre-catalytic flat tappet engines. It already has the ZDDP add pack in it. Tell Clint "the oil guy" sent you. If you have a newer vehicle, post 1972, use Mobil 1 7500 mile formula and change it every 5K.

Jeff
01-22-2010, 01:12 AM
Mobil 1 in both vehicles!

FoxStang
01-22-2010, 01:12 AM
But is the german castrol any cheaper than mobil 1? I've never been able to find the stuff anyway. I just get the big jug of mobil 1 from walmart, i think it's about $20-25 for 4 quarts.

It's not cheaper, but its actually a full synthetic, unlike Mobil 1...
I've been able to find it at random through Autozone, seems like no one location ever has it always in stock.

badass88gt
01-22-2010, 04:29 AM
I use Royal Purple in the Mustang and usually either Quaker State or Valvoline in the F150 and the Jeep.

Anakonda69
01-22-2010, 04:44 AM
i run amsoil in both my trucks. will be doing complete changes this summer for tranny, transfer cases and diffs. in my truck i also run power service and some 2 stroke oil thru a tank of fuel here and there.

77thor
01-22-2010, 06:10 AM
Either Castrol or Valvoline....

letsrunem
01-22-2010, 06:25 AM
Cheapest stuff I can find for the civic and truck, Mobil1 for the mustang. Civic and truck get a 500:1 (1oz to 5gal) premix of TWC-3 2-stroke oil in the gas. Sound like bullshit? Look it up.

Dr.Buick
01-22-2010, 07:01 AM
my vette and benz Mobile 1

my FAST STREERT CARSSSS mobile diesel 15w-40

xxsn0blindxx
01-22-2010, 07:23 AM
Mobil 1 for my Mustang, Tahoe and Mazda6.

BR3W CITY
01-22-2010, 07:28 AM
whatever is on sale in the 5-quart for my blazer and my girls car; and i change brands constantly on the '66

seafoam in everything

JC70SS
01-22-2010, 08:11 AM
german castrol can be had at autozone in the Falls.

Slow Joe
01-22-2010, 08:13 AM
Mach - Mobil 1 5W20 w/Mobil 1 Filter
9-3 - Mobil 1 0W30 w/Puralator Pure 1 Filter
9000 - Vavoline Full Synthetic 0W30 w/Pure 1 Filter

juicedimpss
01-22-2010, 08:14 AM
whatever is on sale for the DD,and Brad Penn for the hotrod.

86GUTLASS
01-22-2010, 08:17 AM
Mobile 1 In the daily drivers and Valvoline VR1 20w50 in the Gutlass

Prince Valiant
01-22-2010, 09:06 AM
Mobil 0-40w in the insight, Mobil 10-30w in the LRT since it has a roller cam. I used Rottella in the coronet and valiant, with a bottle of red STP.

I add Techron fuel injector cleaner to the tank every other oil change in the insight.

Once every two years or so, I use carb cleaner to clean the insight's EGR valve.

Korndogg
01-22-2010, 09:11 AM
Castrol or Valvoline 20w50

DR.FORD
01-22-2010, 09:25 AM
Rotella in Daily drivers
Brad Penn in the fast cars (From Chadley!)
Bearings in the 'Bird look like the day they were installed...

Waver
01-22-2010, 09:31 AM
Gee, I must be doing something wrong here. Since a lot of times I dont have time to do it my self, or space for that matter, I take both of my vehicles in to my dealership, and they both get 5w20 motorcraft, with the motorcraft filter. shoot, 5w20 is a synthetic blend anyhow

jbiscuit
01-22-2010, 09:48 AM
I have been trying to find a local dealer of the Brad Penn oil. Excellent!!

Slow Joe
01-22-2010, 10:00 AM
Gee, I must be doing something wrong here. Since a lot of times I dont have time to do it my self, or space for that matter, I take both of my vehicles in to my dealership, and they both get 5w20 motorcraft, with the motorcraft filter. shoot, 5w20 is a synthetic blend anyhow

MOTORCRAFT 5W20 is Synthetic Blend... You can get full synthetic 5W20... Trust me... :thumbsup :rolf

I use to put Motorcraft 5W30 Syn Blend in my Corolla since it is just about the same price as regular oil... :rolf

DirtyMax
01-22-2010, 10:31 AM
Was using Rotella in my truck until on a whim, I became an Amsoil dealer. I tried the 5W40 Amsoil and its been really good so far. My truck gets about 1-2 better MPG and it is noticeably quieter upon startup on the cold winter mornings!

DurtyKurty
01-22-2010, 10:48 AM
Motorcraft here.

juicedimpss
01-22-2010, 10:50 AM
Mobil 0-40w in the insight, Mobil 10-30w in the LRT since it has a roller cam. I used Rottella in the coronet and valiant, with a bottle of red STP.

I add Techron fuel injector cleaner to the tank every other oil change in the insight.

Once every two years or so, I use carb cleaner to clean the insight's EGR valve.

surprised you didnt tell us what soap you wash your cat with too.

tommyt5078
01-22-2010, 10:50 AM
I use the cheapest chit on the market and don't add anything else.


I have never had an engine problem.............Got 2 car over 250,000 miles and one of them to 367,000............I have an 05' Subaru STi that I put the cheap chit in as needed and let the dealer change the oil with normal every day oil they have..............I can see the car going way over 350,000 without a problem.

tommyt5078
01-22-2010, 10:51 AM
Sorry double post...............

Moparjim
01-22-2010, 10:54 AM
Regular cars - cheapest on sale stuff.
New cars, cares I care about - cheapest on sale full synthetic.
Viper, ATVs, Classics, where I typically go low miles between changes since when they are driven they are driven hard and particularly the viper abuses the oil - Brad Penn stuff from Smokey. I believe Dr. Ford uses this stuff in his T Bird as well.

Prince Valiant
01-22-2010, 10:58 AM
surprised you didnt tell us what soap you wash your cat with too. If I had one, I'd use a mix of draino and comet while scrubbing with a metal scouring pad.

Yooformula
01-22-2010, 11:03 AM
anyone put any stock in the site bobistheoilguy.com? according to his extensive research and testing, unless its the german/european formula mobil 1, its junk. RP motor oil is more hype with no more added protection than conventional synthetic blends.

I run either 5w40 turbo diesel mobil 1, german 0w40 or valvoline premium synthetics. I have also used rotella from time to time and have had good results with them. By that I mean, no smoking on decel or wot, oil that still looks good around 3k miles and less start up noise.

70challenger452
01-22-2010, 11:08 AM
what ever the stuff I pump out of the containers at work for the truck
Brad Penn for the car
and amsoil for the sled

Smokey1226
01-22-2010, 01:02 PM
Shell oil for the Corolla, Rotella for the Big Deez, and ONLY brad penn in the hotrod.

And yes i know i change my oil more than i should, but im ok with that.

British_Ben
01-22-2010, 02:24 PM
Valvoline Synpower 5w30

Yooformula
01-22-2010, 02:30 PM
what is so special about brad penn oils? curious as this thread is the first time I have ever heard of it.

Sprayaway Fox
01-22-2010, 02:56 PM
Carquest, Valvoline 10-30, Valvoline VR1 for dirt track claimers, Rotella 15-40 for the deez or break ins but going mobil in the deez.

juicedimpss
01-22-2010, 03:19 PM
what is so special about brad penn oils? curious as this thread is the first time I have ever heard of it.

"In addition to our unique base oil cut, increased concentration of “zinc” (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate a.k.a. ZDDP) provides outstanding anti-wear/anti-scuffing protection"

it has a wierd consistancy to it,it feels tacky between your fingers.

DirtyMax
01-22-2010, 03:21 PM
it has a wierd consistancy to it,it feels tacky between your fingers.

Kind of like Lucas? That stuff feels like Mrs. Butterworth....

Prince Valiant
01-22-2010, 03:37 PM
it has a wierd consistancy to it,it feels tacky between your fingers.It's probably from the higher claimed paraffin levels, which is a waxy like substance...not sure how the higher paraffin levels would help though.

Moparjim
01-22-2010, 05:06 PM
"In addition to our unique base oil cut, increased concentration of “zinc” (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate a.k.a. ZDDP) provides outstanding anti-wear/anti-scuffing protection"

it has a wierd consistancy to it,it feels tacky between your fingers.

Correct. They basically sell it only through dealers as a "race" oil so it can contain all the good stuff, at high levels, particularly the zinc/ZDDP that the EPA doesn't allow anymore in "regular" oils.

Rocket Power
01-22-2010, 06:00 PM
Use Motorcraft semi-synth 5w-20 in the truck, cheap on sale stuff in the wagon and gp, usually castrol or valvoline from wally world.

mr.gone1985
01-22-2010, 10:01 PM
I use Brad Penn in the Mustang also. My brother is a dealer of it so I also can get it for someone if need be. Or if in the West Bend area you could get it from him direct at Paintwerks.

nitrous
01-22-2010, 11:23 PM
Rotella in the engine. AMSoil in everything else.

WilliamZ
01-23-2010, 08:57 AM
amsoil in the Z
Mobil clean 5000 in the Camry
amsoil in my power equipment

FoxStang
01-23-2010, 02:41 PM
anyone put any stock in the site bobistheoilguy.com? according to his extensive research and testing, unless its the german/european formula mobil 1, its junk. RP motor oil is more hype with no more added protection than conventional synthetic blends.

I run either 5w40 turbo diesel mobil 1, german 0w40 or valvoline premium synthetics. I have also used rotella from time to time and have had good results with them. By that I mean, no smoking on decel or wot, oil that still looks good around 3k miles and less start up noise.
Allot of good info there, but I'm slightly skeptical when the ad on the homepage is for Mobil...

william schlosser
01-23-2010, 02:41 PM
I use Motorcraft 5W20 synthetic blend in my marauder and Castrol 10W30 in my other cars.

lordairgtar
01-23-2010, 06:53 PM
Isn't Rotella Shell's Ag/Truck oil?

Voodoo Chick
01-23-2010, 08:09 PM
I use Royal Purple for all 3 of my cars.

1320PNY
01-23-2010, 09:20 PM
Ok, History needs to be reviewed. Detroit diesel had a issue in the early 70s. Shell realized that formulating an oil to alleviate that issue would be profitable. Rotella T was born. People working in the Diesel industry swear by Rotella to this day. Obviously diesel engine technology has come a long way also.

Mobil 1 means made from synthetic base stock. In the past three years they have played with the additive packages. You now have 15k, 7500, and 5000 versions of the original Mobil 1.

Motorcraft semi-syn is made by Chevron for Ford. It was specially formulated at 5w-20 to give less drag and 5 more Hp to Ford. It was done when the Hp wars were going on during the last Camaro. Stuff works great in Mustangs. Don't run oil past 5k miles. Silica and fuel build up in the oil after 5k. If you run a car hard, change every 3500.

It ain't better if it is purple. Read the labels, check base stock. Stick with what the manufacturer says unless you run oil analysis or Mobil 1.

Pennsylvania crude naturally creates a gray sludgy residue in your valves. Pennzoil tends to be borderline for acidity by 2500 miles.

Do what you want. I have had 400k mile cars come through with perfect compression twice last year based on regular service intervals with the dealer oil changes.

modmachz
01-23-2010, 09:33 PM
I have been trying to find a local dealer of the Brad Penn oil. Excellent!!


Brad Penn all the way..

In Fact I am a Dealer For It as well.
Automotive Engine Rebuilders/AER Trailer Sales & Service.
Waukesha

0TransAm0
01-23-2010, 09:57 PM
oil changes are the one thing i don't like to mess with. to messy and to much of a pain to get rid of the old oil. so for me its whatever the dealer puts in... and i have no idea what they use..

SSLEVO
01-23-2010, 10:55 PM
Pennsylvania crude naturally creates a gray sludgy residue in your valves. Pennzoil tends to be borderline for acidity by 2500 miles.


It's kind of funny that i haven't heard any one bashing pennzoil yet. I bought a 170k mile lt1 camaro from my uncle a few years back, all he ran in it was pennzoil. I did a cam swap at 190k miles and the lifter valley looked like the day it came off the assembly line. Made 360 whp on the stock heads. I bounced it off the 6900 limiter while it was rolling over 200k miles, haha. I sold it with about 205k on it, wonder if shes still running around...

1320PNY
01-24-2010, 12:12 AM
http://www.beauchampengineering.net/pdf/analysis8.pdf

After 3k miles my TBN was below 2.0 with Pennzoil. Notice all the other tests were MUCH better. I let Sorens do my oil changes because it is cheap, convenient, and consistently tests well.

Al
01-24-2010, 01:25 AM
I use whatever oil is cheapest on any car I spend less than $1500 on.

Other than a turbo, I have never had an oil-related engine failure.

URLOZIN
01-24-2010, 07:57 PM
mobile 1 full synthetic for me!

lilws6
01-24-2010, 08:47 PM
I need to find the german blend stuff for the T/A i can never find it when i need to change the oil i have no idea what it looks like so i run the reg. mobile 0w40 in the T/A supertech/accel oil in the saturn sometimes trans fluid. Seafoam everything. and mobile race blend in the busa witch i'll be switching to amzoil this year in the bike if some one has a hook up? also i want a consistant place i can get the german castrol synthetic

nismodave
01-24-2010, 09:00 PM
Castrol GTX in the 240sx. Whatever Larry uses at Firestone in the M6.

Fast95Stang
01-24-2010, 09:48 PM
I use Brad Penn 10W-30 in my Mustang with a 347. My engine builder, Jim Galto, from Galto Racing Enterprises (http://www.greracing.com/) recommended Brad Penn. He gave me awesome break in instructions and only uses Brad Penn in all of his engines. This guy knows his stuff, he used to work for NASCAR and his former shop is AMS Performance, home of the worlds fastest Evo. He is a great guy too!!

Fast95Stang
01-24-2010, 09:51 PM
Brad Penn all the way..

In Fact I am a Dealer For It as well.
Automotive Engine Rebuilders/AER Trailer Sales & Service.
Waukesha

This is good info! I've been ordering it from way the hell up north and paying a crap load for shipping! Sux! I will definitely be calling you when I need to restock.

NitrousPig
01-24-2010, 10:05 PM
Been using Brad Penn since it was still Kendall! Oh and for what its worth...I'm a dealer too but would rather have you buy it from Chad.

We have re-used 4 sets of bearings out of our big motor in our beater motors :wooo. Also, have 12 years on a 430" BBC solid roller street motor(with a lot of abuse)

Smokey1226
01-25-2010, 12:52 AM
Been using Brad Penn since it was still Kendall! Oh and for what its worth...I'm a dealer too but would rather have you buy it from Chad.

We have re-used 4 sets of bearings out of our big motor in our beater motors :wooo. Also, have 12 years on a 430" BBC solid roller street motor(with a lot of abuse)
Thanks for that Chip. You, Ron and da boys are way too good to me.
P.S. Ive got a big order coming in spring, and you guys are more than welcome to buy whatever you need at my cost. BCM hook up style :headbang

And i agree 110% with you that the stuff truely works. There is a reason some of the baddest engine builders/circle track engine builders swear by the stuff!

JOHN 86GT
01-25-2010, 05:15 AM
Thanks for that Chip. You, Ron and da boys are way too good to me.
P.S. Ive got a big order coming in spring, and you guys are more than welcome to buy whatever you need at my cost. BCM hook up style :headbang

And i agree 110% with you that the stuff truly works. There is a reason some of the baddest engine builders/circle track engine builders swear by the stuff!

Do you have any in stock now?

Was the test ever conducted?



Originally Posted by 1320PNY http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/forum/showthread.php?p=526242#post526242)
Sweet.

Now there's a guy on here with experience (Prince Valiant) and I found a taker on the testing(Smokey1226). So it will just be a couple weeks before we have hard BCM facts. :thumbsup

Moparjim
01-25-2010, 09:34 AM
Did you really have to wake up at 5:15 am to attempt to piss in Chad/Smokey's Kool Aid and shit in this thread? He's earned a heck of a lot of loyal customers on here for a reason. He provides excellent products - oil and race gas - at nice prices where I for one feel like he probably is barely making a dime for all the work and effort involved to bring these products in considering the limited market for them. His customer service is excellent, products are excellent, and prices are good - what more could you ask for.

I did quite a bit of research on the Brad Penn/Kendall oil in the past. There is a lot of data out there on it, and on the benefits of the zinc and other contents in general. Many of the top nationwide builders and racers swear by it, as well as many of the top local guys that have posted here. I swear by it in my 1500 RWHP Viper. So, if you need more test data, use your own time and your google bar instead of shitting in here because Chad hasn't run tests yet - which were offered on his own time and dime as well I believe...

Smokey1226
01-25-2010, 01:08 PM
Thanks for that Jim, and i really do appreciate you guys giveing the little guy (me) a chance to help you guys out! A large Majority of the BCM members will go out of their way to help one of their own, even if it costs them more time/money/drive ect. It's pretty amazing to see!

Now with that, he brought of a great point. Shaun and i just talked about that as well, and i feel extemely sorry i wasn't able to get all the sampling done already. We did end up changing a lot of small things on our 66' build and ended up getting the car done way late in the year last year.

Currently, i have 400 miles on the new motor and the Brad Penn Break in oil still in the engine. First day of spring that oil will be emptyed (and sampled) and then the Brad Penn 10w-30 will be going in, and after 1000 miles i will pull a sample of that and send them both in. I still have the kit, sitting in the car ready for spring!

Car Guy
01-25-2010, 01:19 PM
Do you have any in stock now?

Was the test ever conducted?



Did you really have to wake up at 5:15 am to attempt to piss in Chad/Smokey's Kool Aid and shit in this thread?


Maybe I'm completely missing something but where did he shit on Chad or this thread...??? From what I can see he asked two simple questions with no 'shitting' intentions.....:confused

Moparjim
01-25-2010, 01:35 PM
Seemed to me his intent was to ding Chad and "point out" by quoting what Chad said about the oils quality that Chad hasn't done his personal testing yet, and insinuate that Chad's post about the oils quality are thus not based in factual testing...

He also quoted where Chad clearly stated that he would be placing a big order in spring to stock the stuff, but again felt the need to ask "is it in stock right now" thus pointing out the answer that he already knew - no. Chad just started carrying this stuff last year and until a customer stream for it has been developed he got it on an order by order basis...

If that was not the intent, then I apologize, but that is the way I interpreted the "asking" of two questions that he already knew the answer to...

Smokey1226
01-25-2010, 01:44 PM
I will point out, yes i do have some of their oils in stock. Not a ton, but some cases of 20w-50 and break 30w. But i let my inventory run down so i could get the bulk order pricing in spring. I can promise no dealer will be able to get even close, but ill leave it at that. The nice thing that ill be able to do is, for the larger Race teams or guy's who like to change their oil a ton, i will be able to bring in drums of their oils and they are rediculously cheap when broken down price per quart.

Car Guy
01-25-2010, 01:48 PM
Seemed to me his intent was to ding Chad and "point out" by quoting what Chad said about the oils quality that Chad hasn't done his personal testing yet, and insinuate that Chad's post about the oils quality are thus not based in factual testing...

He also quoted where Chad clearly stated that he would be placing a big order in spring to stock the stuff, but again felt the need to ask "is it in stock right now" thus pointing out the answer that he already knew - no. Chad just started carrying this stuff last year and until a customer stream for it has been developed he got it on an order by order basis...

If that was not the intent, then I apologize, but that is the way I interpreted the "asking" of two questions that he already knew the answer to...


I'll let JOHN 86GT speak for himself but that is NOT how I read it what so ever. Before reading his post I was about to ask if the testing had been completed yet, curious what the results are.....:)

Prince Valiant
01-25-2010, 02:12 PM
..and break 30w.
You have break-in oil? How much for 6qt's? Where do I go to pick some up?

Bart H
01-25-2010, 03:16 PM
REDLINE for my turbo cars

JOHN 86GT
01-25-2010, 04:53 PM
Maybe I'm completely missing something but where did he shit on Chad or this thread...??? From what I can see he asked two simple questions with no 'shitting' intentions.....:confused

Thanks , glad someone understood what I meant ..

Smokey1226, When you have some in stock , I would be interested in a case .

JOHN 86GT
01-25-2010, 05:04 PM
I would need a case for a ford 5.0 and a case for a 4.6 .

Moparjim
01-26-2010, 09:52 AM
As I posted, my apologies if I misinterpreted your post. Too much caffeine for me that morning maybe...

deuceWI
01-26-2010, 11:30 AM
In my bike I've settled on Shell Rotella T 5-40 Synthetic. It's not energy conserving which means it gets along well with the wet clutch. Lasts just as long as any other top shelf synthetic motorcycle oil I've tried (about 2000-2500 miles). I go by the feel in the shifter to tell me when it needs to get changed. When the shifts get rougher, it's time for a change, and since you can pick up this stuff for around $20-$25 for a gallon it's pretty cheap too.

My Speed3 gets Pennzoil Platinum 5-30 Synthetic. From what I've read, fuel dilution in the oil is an issue on new direct injection motors, and Pennzoil Platinum ranks as one of the best in combating this. Walmart 5 quart jugs are also in the $20-$25 range.

JOHN 86GT
01-26-2010, 03:10 PM
As I posted, my apologies if I misinterpreted your post. Too much caffeine for me that morning maybe... :)