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pOrk
01-17-2010, 01:51 AM
My basement is cold, REAL cold. There are two heat vents down there, and when they are open it makes little difference at all to when they are closed :rolf

I am installing a door to separate the finished and unfinished sides of the basement sometime this week, and I was going to try these to help keep the cold from coming into the windows http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/product/199737_front500.jpg

Next step if these don't help is a whole room heater. Does anyone have any advice on choosing a unit? The room is 14 x 22. I really like the wall mounted units or the baseboard style units as they can be made to look nice, unlike the oil filled radiator style heaters. BUT, I want one thats going to work the best for a room this sized. The radiator heater doesn't work that great, borrowed one of these and had minimal heat gain using it, plugged in for 3 hours the room went up 1 degree. 55 is still too cold :durr

pOrk
01-17-2010, 02:22 AM
This first one is the one I really like ascetically but most reviews say its only good for smaller well insulated rooms. Would probably need two of these to heat my basement room? Also, looks like they only last about a year or two.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31xG0dRRigL._SS500_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Eco-Heater-Mounted-Electric-Heater-110400/dp/B002WIQSKO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1263715185&sr=1-7

This one has mostly good reviews, buts its pretty bulky and it makes noise. Being for a theater room, I would like a silent or close to silent heater. But for 70 bucks, it sounds decent.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31QSG7pD5PL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-758000-Cyclonic-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B000QC77A8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Lash
01-17-2010, 08:19 AM
http://www.cadetco.com/show_product.php?prodid=1006

http://www.cadetco.com/show_product.php?prodid=1008

http://www.cadetco.com/show_product.php?prodid=1004

http://www.cadetco.com/show_product.php?prodid=1010

Personally.... I would go with baseboard.

nismodave
01-17-2010, 08:29 AM
Go with a baseboard IMO.

awsomeears
01-17-2010, 10:26 AM
You can add base board witch is really nice to have or you can add some returns in that finished room and raise your Thermostat temperature up. I know you keep it fairly cool from what I remember while I was there to tune it up.

What temperature do you keep it at ?

The reason that room is cool is because there is no air circulation, a room heats up when warm air enters and that same air goes back into the system. Comes out again and keeps doing this over and over and over until the temperature slowly comes up.

Your just not heating the air, its the walls, carpet, drywall and well anything in the room.

So here is my thought........

Your going to spend more then a few hundred on installing and purchasing the baseboard, you will also be using more electricity that will in turn raise your Energy Bill. You keep your Thermostat down to save money but if you were to install a few returns and maybe a supply or two all you would need to do to warm up that basement to a nice temperature is Raise your thermostat up stairs and give it a handful of days to heat the home up as a whole.

The difference will still be cheaper because lets say you keep your thermostat at 60 and you then bump it up to a 66 your bill will only go up lets say 20-40 each month. That's why personally I think people are nuts to live in a home at such cool temperatures.

Will you miss that extra heat the goes downstairs you ask ? Nope not at all ...........

You have to look at the difference and realize hell I can fork out an extra $1 per day to be nice and comfortable.

This is all 1st hand experience because I recommended this many times and did the work only to get a call or stop over for a party in the basement I did and its nice and comfortable.

Will the basement temperature ever match the Thermostat upstairs ? nope you will still have a few degrees off, but when your basement is in the low 50's and you can bring it up to a nice 60-64 then I consider that to be nice. If you want it warmer downstairs up your thermostat.

nismodave
01-17-2010, 01:31 PM
Says the forced air guy.

Dont be fooled, installing baseboards is not that hard, or expensive, unless you have a drywalled ceiling.

What is your set up downstairs? The Finished, and unfinished?

Korndogg
01-17-2010, 01:41 PM
Another one for baseboard here.

awsomeears
01-17-2010, 01:52 PM
Says the forced air guy.


:p

Dave I think its all dry wall, I was there to tune-up his furnace a few months ago so I could be wrong.

Eric I don't remember but are you walls studded out and drywalled or is it just the block ?

pOrk
01-17-2010, 02:04 PM
I keep the house at 65 during the day, 62 at night. The finished part of the basement is studded and dry walled walls and ceilings. I don't want to heat the basement all day ever day, as we use the theater room maybe once a week. That, and installing more ducts sounds expensive

Lash
01-17-2010, 02:12 PM
You can add base board witch is really nice to have or you can add some returns in that finished room and raise your Thermostat temperature up. I know you keep it fairly cool from what I remember while I was there to tune it up.

What temperature do you keep it at ?

The reason that room is cool is because there is no air circulation, a room heats up when warm air enters and that same air goes back into the system. Comes out again and keeps doing this over and over and over until the temperature slowly comes up.

Your just not heating the air, its the walls, carpet, drywall and well anything in the room.

So here is my thought........

Your going to spend more then a few hundred on installing and purchasing the baseboard, you will also be using more electricity that will in turn raise your Energy Bill. You keep your Thermostat down to save money but if you were to install a few returns and maybe a supply or two all you would need to do to warm up that basement to a nice temperature is Raise your thermostat up stairs and give it a handful of days to heat the home up as a whole.

The difference will still be cheaper because lets say you keep your thermostat at 60 and you then bump it up to a 66 your bill will only go up lets say 20-40 each month. That's why personally I think people are nuts to live in a home at such cool temperatures.

Will you miss that extra heat the goes downstairs you ask ? Nope not at all ...........

You have to look at the difference and realize hell I can fork out an extra $1 per day to be nice and comfortable.

This is all 1st hand experience because I recommended this many times and did the work only to get a call or stop over for a party in the basement I did and its nice and comfortable.

Will the basement temperature ever match the Thermostat upstairs ? nope you will still have a few degrees off, but when your basement is in the low 50's and you can bring it up to a nice 60-64 then I consider that to be nice. If you want it warmer downstairs up your thermostat.



So you want to rob air from the rest of the house that the unit was SIZED for? And UP the t-stat to make up for the extra sq. footage and pay an extra $25/month!?!?!
I can't believe you'd even say that without checking the output of the furnace first. Odds are it's slightly undersized to begin with... like most are in this area.

Maybe you should stick to selling/installing bypass humidifiers. :rolleyes:



Go with baseboard. You can turn them on/off as you please. Keep them off when the room is not in use.

awsomeears
01-17-2010, 04:15 PM
I keep the house at 65 during the day, 62 at night. The finished part of the basement is studded and dry walled walls and ceilings. I don't want to heat the basement all day ever day, as we use the theater room maybe once a week. That, and installing more ducts sounds expensive

Let me say this again your home will not miss that extra air going downstairs, don't think about when you want to heat the room and all that jazz.

Your better off keeping that room warmer so when you enter it your not relying on a heater to heat it up Fast because your cold. Plus that is additional energy used.....

Either witch way you go you will have to spend a few bucks, my way is probably more affordable ( depending on your other solutions ) and makes sense because again your upstairs won't miss the heat and you can think of it as free heat for your basement.



So you want to rob air from the rest of the house that the unit was SIZED for? And UP the t-stat to make up for the extra sq. footage and pay an extra $25/month!?!?!
I can't believe you'd even say that without checking the output of the furnace first. Odds are it's slightly undersized to begin with... like most are in this area.

Maybe you should stick to selling/installing bypass humidifiers. :rolleyes:

Go with baseboard. You can turn them on/off as you please. Keep them off when the room is not in use.

Stick with commercial my friend and I will stick with Residential :thumbsup

Lash
01-17-2010, 04:58 PM
Let me say this again your home will not miss that extra air going downstairs,

Won't miss the air it takes to condition over 300 sq. ft. ( an addition of almost 20% in footage) of 55deg.?


You keep thinking that. :punch:







BTW...
I do residential, commercial, and industrial. Not to mention custom metal fabs. We do it all. :shades ;)

awsomeears
01-17-2010, 05:35 PM
I'm going to help Eric complete this project.....

nuff said

:thumbsup

Philly-O
03-26-2010, 10:33 PM
We have the ceramic wall unit in our daughters room and it works very well. We leave it on almost the whole winter nonstop and keeps her room plenty warm, especially when the door is partially closed. As far as lasting a year or two, we just went through the second winter and no problems. You can paint over theese heaters also and they stand about a half inch from the wall. Also leaving it on 24/7, our heat bill did not change.



This first one is the one I really like ascetically but most reviews say its only good for smaller well insulated rooms. Would probably need two of these to heat my basement room? Also, looks like they only last about a year or two.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31xG0dRRigL._SS500_.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/Eco-Heater-Mounted-Electric-Heater-110400/dp/B002WIQSKO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1263715185&sr=1-7

This one has mostly good reviews, buts its pretty bulky and it makes noise. Being for a theater room, I would like a silent or close to silent heater. But for 70 bucks, it sounds decent.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31QSG7pD5PL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-758000-Cyclonic-Ceramic-Heater/dp/B000QC77A8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

hrsp
03-28-2010, 12:01 AM
need more women in the basement watching movies...the body heat will "warm" the basement up nice!! Try that and thank me later...:)

Yooformula
03-28-2010, 12:05 PM
I like that ceramic wall unit and an outlet thermostat! I have an electric baseboard heater and it does keep the area warm but it kills our electric bill when I keep it running for hours a day. It only takes about 15 min to warm the room downstairs and I dont crank the temp to get it warm.

GTSLOW
03-28-2010, 11:10 PM
Ya I looked and it's around 400watts too, not bad.

WickedSix
03-29-2010, 12:30 PM
http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/172892_lg.jpg