Money WELL Spent.....

[Car Guy]

I just put these tires to the test and WOW.....:banana1:

http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/9289058/129_0709_01_z+4x4_tire_test+general_altimax_arctic .jpg

The best part was when a police car going 15-20mph flashed his/her lights at me as I passed, going the speed limit of 35mph.....:rolf


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[Josepy]

I just put these to the test and WOW.....:banana1:

http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/9289058/129_0709_01_z+4x4_tire_test+general_altimax_arctic .jpg

The best was when a police car going 15-20mph flashed his/her lights at me, and I was going the speed limit of 35mph.....:rolf


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they make those in 225 50 18

[Car Guy]

they make those in 225 50 18

Unfortunately the answer is no, they do not.....

[letsrunem]

I just put these tires to the test and WOW.....

Wow compared to other snow tires or just wow in general

[Car Guy]

Wow compared to other snow tires or just wow in general

All of the above.....:thumbsup

[DynoTom]

I just put these tires to the test and WOW.....:banana1:

http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/9289058/129_0709_01_z+4x4_tire_test+general_altimax_arctic .jpg

The best part was when a police car going 15-20mph flashed his/her lights at me as I passed, going the speed limit of 35mph.....:rolf


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I gotta set of those for my Crown Vicky ! It's good to hear they work good !

[Lash]

They make those in a 33x10.5-17? :goof

[GTSLOW]

They make those in a 33x10.5-17? :goof

Yes they'll fit 2WD Rams so you should be good, ya probably need em.



:goof :stare

[floaters]

just ordered my snow tires for my lexus, cant wait to get them!

[Car Guy]

just ordered my snow tires for my lexus, cant wait to get them!

Which brand/model did you order...???

[Irish]

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[twicks69]

The design looks similar to the Nokian Hakkapellitta RSI.

As for the Hakkapellitta's, I LOVE them! AWD Turbo w/ Ice Racing Tires FTW!

[animal]

The design looks similar to the Nokian Hakkapellitta RSI.

Yeah but nowhere near the performance of them. :) A die hard snow tire guy I know tried these and got rid of them the next day. They allow the car to push way too much compared to the "hocks". You can totally feel it when he throws the car into a snowy turn at 50-60 :devil Not that they're bad tires either. I guess for the rest of us normal drivers, they'd do just fine.

I've been debating all fall if I should upgrade the mustang to some hocks or gislaveds and resell my blizzaks I bought used last year for like a hundy.

[twicks69]

Yeah but nowhere near the performance of them. :) A die hard snow tire guy I know tried these and got rid of them the next day. They allow the car to push way too much compared to the "hocks". You can totally feel it when he throws the car into a snowy turn at 50-60 :devil Not that they're bad tires either. I guess for the rest of us normal drivers, they'd do just fine.

I've been debating all fall if I should upgrade the mustang to some hocks or gislaveds and resell my blizzaks I bought used last year for like a hundy.

Gislaveds are hard to find around this area. I believe that Michelin also purchased them, so the designs may have turned to suck by now. I think that there is still an old-school Saab used dealer off of Wisconsin ave by Kimberly Clark on the East side of Appleton, WI that sells them and Hakkas. He was an old ice racer. Those two make THE BEST lineup of bad weather tires (well, for ice racing/snow rally) on the market.

If you find Gislaveds down here, shoot me the info!

[animal]

There's a guy in MF/germantown area that my buddy and boss go to for hocks and I thought he also has some gislaveds. If they get in here today I can ask them.

[Car Guy]

I guess for the rest of us normal drivers, they'd do just fine.

More than fine. Yes the Nokian/Gilslaved is superior but for the price of these you can't go wrong, unless you're 'racing' in the streets during snow storms.....



If you find Gislaveds down here, shoot me the info!

The closest Gislaved/Nokian tire dealer I know of is in Richfield, Greg / 262-628-1716.....


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[animal]

More than fine. Yes the Nokian/Gilslaved is superior but for the price of these you can't go wrong, unless you're 'racing' in the streets during snow storms.....


For me, yeah they'd be great i'm sure. For this guy I know, snow days are essentially race days for him. TBH he makes me damn near shit my pants when there's traffic nearby.



The closest Gislaved/Nokian tire dealer I know of is in Richfield, Greg / 262-628-1716......

I'm assuming this is the guy... they do refer to him as "hocky greg" :goof

[Car Guy]

For me, yeah they'd be great i'm sure.

At nearly half the price I wouldn't hesitate, not for a second. They'll be light years better than all-seasons (3-seasons in my opinion) and they're on par if not better than Blizzaks, Alpins, etc.....

I forgot to mention the General Altimax Artic's tread design is identical to the Gislaved Nordfrost 3s, General bought the molds.....:)

http://www.qsrproductions.com/store/images/gislaved_nordfrost_3.jpghttp://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/general/ge_altimax_arctic_ci2_l.jpg

[PureSound15]

My snow tires are doing me well while they're unmounted and on the floor in my garage :(

[SSLEVO]

I had some Blizzak ws40 or 50's on the evo last winter, that was fun. The traction was unreal.

[Car Guy]

I had some Blizzak ws40 or 50's on the evo last winter, that was fun. The traction was unreal.

Any snow tire plus AWD and you're king of the white stuff......:)



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[twicks69]

At nearly half the price I wouldn't hesitate, not for a second. They'll be light years better than all-seasons (3-seasons in my opinion) and they're on par if not better than Blizzaks, Alpins, etc.....

I forgot to mention the General Altimax Artic's tread design is identical to the Gislaved Nordfrost 3s, General bought the molds.....:)

http://www.qsrproductions.com/store/images/gislaved_nordfrost_3.jpghttp://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/general/ge_altimax_arctic_ci2_l.jpg

Damn, I knew one of the cheaper tire manufacturers purchased the Gilslaved brand molds....

Holy hell, only $79.00 per tire for the General's at Tirerack for a 215/55/R16! That is CHEAP!

The Gislaved Nordfrost3 usually is around $110-135 for the same size, and the Nokian Hakkapellitta RSI is normally even higher.

I did find that "tirefactorydirect" on Ebay has killer deals on Hocks in alot of different sizes.

[animal]

I usually only buy tires from discounttire because of the free shipping The kumho's from there look pretty decent too
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/kumst1.ang.jpg

Also these look pretty agressive too:
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/firestone/fs_winterforce_ci2_l.jpg


For all I know, both of them would end up being shit though if they have a bad rubber compound.

[Car Guy]

For all I know, both of them would end up being shit though if they have a bad rubber compound.

They don't, most of the less expensive snow tires will be great in the snow. Unless, once again, you're racing at Road America in a snow storm......:goof

I would strongly recommend the Winterforce for your Mustang, and with studs they'd be that much better :shades . They have a heavier construction/higher speed rating than most snow tires and fit a RWD vehicle perfectly.....

[Prince Valiant]

Animal, those winterforces are GREAT in the kind of stuff we get here...last night I was blowing by everyone in the insight (SUV's, semi's, pick-ups...all of em), again, in a freekin' honda insight on the way to get the wife out of a ditch last night. With the deep groves, the slushy/salt/crap we normally have on the roads just gets channeled away.

What I really appreciate about these tires is normally the lane changes can be a little intimidating...but the winterforces just seem to glide through without much fanfare. Keep in mind, this is my third season on these tires too.

Oh, and the compound is stout...use them in the summer and they'll wear away in nothing flat, they're so soft.

[animal]

yeah they looked like a reasonable deal. I might call hocky greg and see what the difference would be for some hockys or something through him too. They're not dire right now, my blizzaks should be fine another year. Not at the snow wear bars or anything but I always like thinking about new tires. Just makes me happy. I know how it'd go tho... i'll buy new snows, and we'll get no more snow til like feb. Heh.

[SLOWC5]

If anyone is looking for Winterforce's, General Altimax Arctics, or Cooper Weathermasters, I've been able to get some good prices on them.

JEFF

[WhatsADSM]

Yea after last night I decided to just get winter tires. I have the falken 512s on my elantra which are kinda crappy all-seasons that just plain SUCK in the snow. Light car, open-diff FWD, crappy all-season tires was not a fun time. Especially considering I tend to drive a little too aggressively in the snow.

Everything I have read about the Altimax arctics has been great, so I ordered them up along with a set of winter rims. Once I get them in and on, I'll update the thread with my opinion.

[floaters]

Which brand/model did you order...???

i got the Firestone winterforce with 17" wheels from tirerack. I just went cheap, but it will be much better than the tires and 18s that are on there. IMO any rear wheel drive car NEEDS snow tires in winter especially on luxury/newer cars where traction control and all the gadgets can work the way their supposed to.

[03CVLX]

I got my Hakka RSI's from Mr. P's on Hwy 100 I got what I think is a killer deal on them at the time.

[animal]

If anyone is looking for Winterforce's, General Altimax Arctics, or Cooper Weathermasters, I've been able to get some good prices on them.

JEFF

Can you post up or PM prices on 205/65/15 for all 3 ?

[Prince Valiant]

Can you post up or PM prices on 205/65/15 for all 3 ?

You have 15" rims on the car?

[SLOWC5]

205/65-15, Price is mounted, balanced, new stems, and disposal.

General Altimax Arctic - $76.52 per tire + Tax
Continential TS790 - $81.76 per tire + Tax
Cooper Weathermaster - $86.76 per tire + Tax

JEFF

[animal]

You have 15" rims on the car?

Werd. 17" summer, 15" winter because tires are cheaper.

I had 16" for a while but i sold them off because they were 6 spokes. :goof

[animal]

205/65-15, Price is mounted, balanced, new stems, and disposal.

General Altimax Arctic - $76.52 per tire + Tax
Continential TS790 - $81.76 per tire + Tax
Cooper Weathermaster - $86.76 per tire + Tax

JEFF

What about winterforces?

[SLOWC5]

My other supplier is in the same building as my shop. After work I'll run over there and ask about a 205/65-15 Winterforce

JEFF

[animal]

My other supplier is in the same building as my shop. After work I'll run over there and ask about a 205/65-15 Winterforce

JEFF

No big rush, I dunno if I'm gonna pull the trigger on these or just stick with my blizzaks for the rest of this year but prices would be needed in that decision
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[Junky Giorgio]

I just ordered those same snow tires for my car an hour ago. All the reviews are pretty good and cheaper than Blizzaks!

[PureSound15]

205/65-15, Price is mounted, balanced, new stems, and disposal.

General Altimax Arctic - $76.52 per tire + Tax
Continential TS790 - $81.76 per tire + Tax
Cooper Weathermaster - $86.76 per tire + Tax

JEFF

Wow. Cheap.

[Cryptic]

What kinda fool drives a car in the winter anyways :goof:
Plow truck FTW

[SLOWC5]

WinterForce 205/65-15 - 74.25 per tire + Tax
WinterForce 185/65-14 - 66.78 per tire + Tax

[pnad]

I bought those same general snows for the HHR. According to ups tracking they are sitting on my back porch right now :)

205/65/15 with steel rims mounted balanced and shipped to my door for $515 from tirerack. $64ea

[hrsp]

If anyone is looking for Winterforce's, General Altimax Arctics, or Cooper Weathermasters, I've been able to get some good prices on them.

JEFF

how about 215-50-17? Thanks

[SLOWC5]

how about 215-50-17? Thanks

Most inexpensive tire from one of my suppliers is a
Continental winter contact looking at $145.89 per tire + Tax


JEFF

[lordairgtar]

I bought those same general snows for the HHR. According to ups tracking they are sitting on my back porch right now :)

205/65/15 with steel rims mounted balanced and shipped to my door for $515 from tirerack. $64ea
It will be interesting to see how they work on the HHR.

[TURTLE]

Most inexpensive tire from one of my suppliers is a
Continental winter contact looking at $145.89 per tire + Tax


JEFF

jeff, which version of the conti winter?

i just put a set of the continental extreme winter contacts on my beat-r, and let me tell you, for the money, you can't beat 'em on a fwd car... and i've had the bilzzaks, and the graspics, so of the 3, conti ftw!

and yes, nokians are better, but for 2x the price in my size, no thanks... ;)

[4I Notch]

I usually only buy tires from discounttire because of the free shipping The kumho's from there look pretty decent too
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/product/tires/kumst1.ang.jpg

Also these look pretty agressive too:
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/firestone/fs_winterforce_ci2_l.jpg


For all I know, both of them would end up being shit though if they have a bad rubber compound.

I just put my firestone winterforce tires to the test on my crown vic. They were amazing. Went through 6 inches of snow no problem.

[letsrunem]

I went with 195/70/14 Winterforces for my civic, basically a bigger sidewall and they fit great. I got to test their limits yesterday, went through a drift that was about 16" in a parking lot, got stuck. Went back and forth a few times and got moving again, plowin snow lol. I freaking love these tires! I just wish there was a good way to add more weight on the front end

[-stew-]

^^^ V8 swap will weigh down that front end fine, just fine.

[letsrunem]

So would putting a plow on it.

[SLOWC5]

jeff, which version of the conti winter?

i just put a set of the continental extreme winter contacts on my beat-r, and let me tell you, for the money, you can't beat 'em on a fwd car... and i've had the bilzzaks, and the graspics, so of the 3, conti ftw!

and yes, nokians are better, but for 2x the price in my size, no thanks... ;)

215/50R17 T EX WINT CNTCT SNOW
SL load rating

[drewbird91]

If anyone is looking for Winterforce's, General Altimax Arctics, or Cooper Weathermasters, I've been able to get some good prices on them.

JEFF

How much for General Altimax Artic 195/65/R15. Can you get steel wheels for those to? 5x114.3 (67.1mm center bore). PM me if you would like.