Project Lucille

[Scales]

Well the tare down started this weekend. So far, everything is going really smooth. A couple broken bolts,
and a couple busted knuckles, but a lot better then I imagined!!!

She used to look like this... http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/~scales/Car%20Photos%20001.jpg

And now she looks like this so far... http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/~scales/Car%20Photos%20013.jpg

A lot of work ahead still, but at least I'm learning and havin a pretty good time doin it!! :thumbsup

[SMS 1]

So whatcha all doin to her?

[A B4C Z]

I dont know what your all doing........fill me in..

[u_say_go]

she aint ever runnin' again! :goof

[Scales]

Basicly a heads, cam, intake swap... Bottom end looks good so I'll break that later.. :goof

[SMS 1]

that a 350 or a 305?

[Scales]

350 of course!!! My last Camaro had a boat anchor.. I mean 305. I'm doin it right this time! :3gears:

[Scales]

she aint ever runnin' again! :goof

You'll have to pick me up for work in the "Choppers 4 Life" mobile then!! :-P

[SMS 1]

350 of course!!! My last Camaro had a boat anchor.. I mean 305. I'm doin it right this time! :3gears: :thumbsup Gotta at least be a 350.

[Scales]

You ain't kiddin!!! I stuck WAY too much money into that 305 RS (complete built motor etc...) and my Z was still faster with just exhaust and some bolt-ons!!!

[u_say_go]

You'll have to pick me up for work in the "Choppers 4 Life" mobile then!! :-P


After I fail my emissions test for the 3rd tomorrow, that hunk-a-junk might get replaced with a truck

[Scales]

Half a tank of gas and 2 bottles of Heat... It's like a miracle in a bottle.. (or 2) :goof

[u_say_go]

i'm goin' for half-tank of Heet and a splash of 92octane. (kinda like how I make my jack-n-cokes)

[Scales]

LMFAOOOOO!!!!!!! :rolf :rolf :rolf

[Max 93]

i'm goin' for half-tank of Heet and a splash of 92octane. (kinda like how I make my jack-n-cokes)

Why do you put Heat in your Jack and Coke? :goof

[SMS 1]

Why do you put Heat in your Jack and Coke? :goofWell heat is alchohol right? :alcoholic :goof

[Cryptic]

I'm gonna have to try that :goof

[Scales]

Update:

Got one head on... http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/~scales/Car%20Photos%20030.jpg

Not much progress tonight cuz I be waitin on the UPS man... Then the fun starts up again. (By fun I mean the countless hours of overtime I'll have to put in to pay off this project!! :goof )

[Syclone0044]

You're right; Heet is alcohol. I use Heet on my truck.... LOTS of it!!! Here is HALF of my current supply...
http://s95370645.onlinehome.us/syclone/files/heet_bottles.jpg
:rockwoot:

[FiErO-5spd]

You're right; Heet is alcohol. I use Heet on my truck.... LOTS of it!!! Here is HALF of my current supply...
http://s95370645.onlinehome.us/syclone/files/heet_bottles.jpg
:rockwoot:
Jeez man, got enough.... holy crap. My car could run on that much for two weeks literally LoL :burnout

[rsscoty]

Glad to hear Matt is finally geting to work on her! Now that I'm back in Consrtuction I shoud have the money to work on mine just a little short on time. Oh well I guess thats th trade off.

Scoty

[SMS 1]

Now that I'm back in Consrtuction I shoud have the money to work on mine

Good thing you didn't trade for the VW huh?! :goof

[Scales]

Update as of 5-5-04

Almost a motor...
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/~scales/Car%20Photos%20040.jpg

[PB86MCSS]

Looks good!

What intake setup and heads are those? Aftermarket TPI intake setups are pretty pricey! :bling

What did you have on there before, stock stuff?

I'm already planning to find a good roller 350 shortblock and put it in my LS with the TPI setup, the 305 just ain't doing it. Budget build so stock TPI intake but aluminum Vette heads perhaps, and of course a better cam and custom PROM/EGR delete with 350 specific parts(injectors/ESC/knock) and probably better electric fans too.

[Syclone0044]

Looking awesome!! Those photos really get me goin'. What rockers are those? They sort of look like the Comp Cams Pro Magnum roller rockers. I'm envious of the fact you are building a motor at the moment and I am not!!

[Scales]

Thanks guys!! I'm gettin pretty excited to hear/drive it myself.

PB86MCSS: Yeah, I had all stock equiptment on it before this. The intake is the Holly Stealth Ram, and I'm now running Dart Iron Eagle Heads. I also still have my stock TPI stuff if your interested. I won't be needing the intake, plenium, runners, rails, and injectors... Let me know if your interested in anything...

Syclone0044: You guessed it exactly!! I was origanally gonna use the 1.6 GMPP rockers, but had some clearance problems. So Max 93 made me buy these instead. (He's my money spender/teacher) :goof

[PB86MCSS]

The injectors possibly. How old/miles? I'd assume they fired just fine too....the only thing I'd *need* for a 350 to swap over, and might save me some money over new ones of course, although its a long way off...

No spare money for the other TPI stuff but interested in a price ;). Would be more interested if I decide to go SD or something :D, but MAF is probably what I will stick with.

[Scales]

Just a different angle of my new toy... :goof


http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/~scales/Car%20Photos%20042.jpg

[Scales]

Everything came off my 91 that had 101k. From what I could see, everything was in really good condition still. I was lookin to get about $150 for the whole shabang...

Oh yeah, I also have the stock heads, roller cam, and roller lifters for sale too... :thumbsup

[88camaro]

in the heads whats the major difference between at 86's and older and 87-and up?

[Prince Valiant]

Looking good! What other mods are in the work? New TC? Gears? Killer looking heads and manifolds on that thing though...it looks worth it for the looks alone :burnout

[PB86MCSS]

$150 ain't bad for it all...too bad I'm poor right now, still paying off a credit card for parts charged... :). If you sell it don't worry about me but if you have the injectors later on I might be interested. Even at that price since its a SD intake/runners I don't have much interest. I'm assuming the setup retains your stock wiring harness and thats not for sale?

The heads in 87'+ are centerbolts. 86' and older perimeter bolt. From what I recall a *few* 86' f-bodies could have 350 TPI motors but generally you will never see one, not sure if they got Vette heads or what. F-body 350's got the iron L98's which are ok for stockers if I recall, aluminums more desireable. So you just need a 87'+ intake for 87'+ heads basically, or you can drill out the holes to make it work too one way or another IIRC.

[Scales]

Looking good! What other mods are in the work? New TC? Gears? Killer looking heads and manifolds on that thing though...it looks worth it for the looks alone :burnout

Thanks!! As of right now, I already had the 700R4 built with a shift kit and 2400/2800 (don't member exactly) stall. I had an Aubourn Possi with 3.73's that was gonna go in next, but the carrier got misplaced somehow. I'm thinkin when my checkbook actually starts to hold money again, I'll probably upgrade the suspension to all poly-graphite, and buy some new gears.. again

I also have the full exhaust done... (SLP 1 3/4 headers, no catz, borla with the DMH cutout :thumbsup )

[Scales]

$150 ain't bad for it all...too bad I'm poor right now, still paying off a credit card for parts charged... :). If you sell it don't worry about me but if you have the injectors later on I might be interested. Even at that price since its a SD intake/runners I don't have much interest. I'm assuming the setup retains your stock wiring harness and thats not for sale?

The heads in 87'+ are centerbolts. 86' and older perimeter bolt. From what I recall a *few* 86' f-bodies could have 350 TPI motors but generally you will never see one, not sure if they got Vette heads or what. F-body 350's got the iron L98's which are ok for stockers if I recall, aluminums more desireable. So you just need a 87'+ intake for 87'+ heads basically, or you can drill out the holes to make it work too one way or another IIRC.

Yeah, I'm still using the stock harness and computer.

[Scales]

Found a perfect fit replacement since the stock water neck won't fit anymore.... Too tacky??? :goof


http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/~scales/Car%20Photos%20045.jpg

[PB86MCSS]

Its Lite-weight...ha ha ha....I'm funny. ;)

[u_say_go]

Why do you put Heat in your Jack and Coke? :goof

Cuz I drink ANYTHING with alcohol! :alcoholic Ask Scales about the time we were drinkin' Polish Vodka (vodka, with a splash of buffalo p!ss)

[Max 93]

I think I heard that story.....sicko

[Scales]

That's how I met my future ex wife.... :goof

[u_say_go]

lol!!!! I love how these threads go from pics of your project (which I CANT wait to see the finished product) to drinking buffalo p!ss. :alcoholic

[Scales]

lol!!!! I love how these threads go from pics of your project (which I CANT wait to see the finished product) to drinking buffalo p!ss. :alcoholic

That's cuz you have ADD!!! :rolf

[u_say_go]

I cant help it!
I saw Max93 today at Macdoodle's on 124th. What a hunk of man! :shades

[scubastang]

arrrrggg my eyes! TPI! arrgg someone sheild my eyes :durr


though you have a good start! looking good :banana

[Max 93]

I cant help it!
I saw Max93 today at Macdoodle's on 124th. What a hunk of man! :shades

why didn't you say something? I didn't notice you. Was kinda in a hurry though.

[BadAzzGTA89]

Your gonna need subframe connectors next :3gears: BTW looks sweet!!Oh and what injectors ya running??

[Scales]

Thanx!! Yeah, subframe connectors are definitly on the must buy list!! Right now, I'm runnin the stock injectors from Max 93's LT1. Once I start in on the tuning I'll be throwin in some 24 pounders. Yep, I'm buyin me a PROM burner!! :rockwoot: Let's just hope I don't screw up anything too bad since I have no idea what I'm doing! :goof

[Syclone0044]

Once I start in on the tuning I'll be throwin in some 24 pounders. Yep, I'm buyin me a PROM burner!! :rockwoot: Let's just hope I don't screw up anything too bad since I have no idea what I'm doing! :goof Which one are you getting!!!! I am hot and heavy about doing the same thing (Chip burning) and I can't find anybody in the area that:

A.) Knows how to do it.
B.) Is Willing and Able to help me out.

So I'm interested to hear which burner you're getting and when? What type of chips are you getting? I heard the Atmel Flash chips are the cat's ass, they don't require a UV eraser. The best burner I could find is the $80 USB one at www.moates.net. Well, best for my budget anyways.

[u_say_go]

why didn't you say something? I didn't notice you. Was kinda in a hurry though.

Didnt think you'd remember me. Didnt want to look like a tool "Hey, remember me?" :sgay

[Max 93]

Didnt think you'd remember me. Didnt want to look like a tool "Hey, remember me?" :sgay
how could I forget a sexy biotch like you?

[Scales]

Which one are you getting!!!! I am hot and heavy about doing the same thing (Chip burning) and I can't find anybody in the area that:

A.) Knows how to do it.
B.) Is Willing and Able to help me out.

So I'm interested to hear which burner you're getting and when? What type of chips are you getting? I heard the Atmel Flash chips are the cat's ass, they don't require a UV eraser. The best burner I could find is the $80 USB one at www.moates.net. Well, best for my budget anyways.

I bought the Pocket Programer. Not too sure if I'll need to flash my chip or not with that one, but I guess I'll find out soon enough.... As far as your A and B questions, I'm probably worse off then you. In a couple days, I'll have the burner, but I still won't have any idea how to use it!! :durr

[Scales]

how could I forget a sexy biotch like you?

Do you too need a minute??? :sgay :hump2:

[u_say_go]

Do you too need a minute??? :sgay :hump2:


A MINUTE??? Whaddya think, I'm a **** star? 5 seconds will do.

[3rdGen Princess]

how could I forget a sexy biotch like you?

Wow, what's this board turning into??? First we have BlkBeauty96 and now you two, too! Good grief! :hump2: :goof

[Scales]

Update: 5-14-03

Well she's about 98% complete. Had a hell of a time trying to mount the stock throttle body to the new plenium. The throttle linkage bracket was hitting the fuel rail. After countless searches, posts, and phone calls, I finally decided a Dremmel was my best option! Took some time to get it just right since I didn't want the throttle cable flying outta there ever, but it's finally on, and not hitting anything!!! Should be firing it up Tuesday afternoon, and then it's time for some PROM tuning!!!

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/~scales/Car%20Photos%20060.jpg

[Syclone0044]

Lookin real good!!! The only thing I'd toss out here, is a suggestion to pick up a new coolant resivour tank and washer tank, they are dirt cheap ($<20) and go a long way to making it look clean under the hood. I was gonna clean out mine and I saw the price for a new bright white one and just tossed the old one instead..

Either way, hope to hear about it running real soon!

[Scales]

That's a pretty good idea! Something I never even considered. I will deffinitly be pressure washing under the hood when it's all done. Thanks for the tip! :thumbsup

[Scales]

Well it fired up today. And it was loud as hell!! :rockwoot: Had a vacuum leak from between the plenium and intake it sounded like. Shouldn't be too tough to seal up. Saw a little leak from the valve covers, cranked those down some more, hopefully that goes away... Looked underneath the car to find a big puddle of oil. :( Couldn't see where it was coming from yet. The timing chain/oil pan seal still looked clean but who knows. Looks like I'll be goin back to get dirty tomorrow... Man did that thing sound tough though!!!! :thumbsup

[Prince Valiant]

Good kill on the start-up :Hump :banana Oil leaks are a hassle, but I'm sure it won't take too long for you to figure out :thumbsup

[PonyKiller87]

Scales, that thing looks sweet. I hope you don't really like those wire looms, I have them on my car and they are a huge pain in the @ss. The look great but when it comes to taking the valve covers off they just get in the way.

If you guys are looking at getting a programer look on the moates site at the AutoProm, well worth the extra money, you can emulate(tune while you drive) I will be getting one soon.

Heres an old pic of mine, its a little different now but not to much.

[Scales]

Yeah, I was hopin I was done under the car for a little while at least.. :rolleyes: I don't really have a problem with the looms. Actually, they were the only ones I found that actually kept my wires off my headers. (I'm on my 4th set) And I don't think they're the cause of my valve cover leaks cuz I was using them before. Maybe it's the covers themselves just not seating on the heads too well. Or maybe they don't leak anymore now that I cranked the piss out of them. My goal for the end of tonight is to have it hold all fluids in and get it timed in so I can finally make my opinion on that cam. It was too hard to tell last night. The ECM was trying to constantly adjust the timing, so it was all over the place along with the idle... Did sound rather lumpy though!!! :D

BTW.. Thanks for the compliments guys!! :thumbsup

[PonyKiller87]

I still have the same issues with my idle, its not to bad though probably because my cam isnt super tall.

Good luck sorting out all the leaks.

I still have a ton of work ahead of me before Thirdgen Fest. I got the T56 all bolted in and fabbed up my cross brace last night, just gotta put the engine bay and interior back together now.

[Scales]

Yeah, ThirdGen Fest might not happen for this guy either the way this project is goin... But who knows, I may get lucky... :rolleyes:

[Scales]

Well between waiting on more parts, and my work schedule, I know I won't be making it to Third Gen Fest.... I will need some time to test and tune! The last thing I need is a $500 flatbed fee to bring er home!!!! My goal is to make it to next Monday's show at BK... :rockwoot:

[PonyKiller87]

That sucks, its looking like my car wont be ready in time either, but Im still going, just taking the truck instead. Oh well it will be done soon, I hope.

[Scales]

Good thing I'm already used to not meeting my goals! :goof Maybe NEXT Monday's show.. :rolleyes:

[PB86MCSS]

Reviving an oldie but a goodie :).

Sent you a PM on your L98 parts...

[Scales]

Sending you a reply now... ;)