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Dr.Buick
10-08-2009, 01:13 PM
Chad Is now going to carry E98 fuel at 255 a drum,(includes drum). This has been tested and makes more power than race fuel. Thanks chad we will be on it with the new power plant!
Flicktitty
10-08-2009, 01:29 PM
hmmmm, more info on E98? what is needed to run it? same as E85? just bigger injectors?
SSLEVO
10-08-2009, 01:53 PM
Thats what i'm guessing. Just has more enthanol in it. Probably about 98% :-P
HITMAN
10-08-2009, 01:58 PM
E98 is almost pure ethanol. You're going to need a fair amount of fuel system to run it as E98. Plus you would need some sort of fuel lubricant. I know that E98 isn't as corrosive as Methanol, but it's still not as forgiving as an E85 mix. I would buy the stuff in the drum and then mix your own E85. It will be a lot more consistent then the shit you can buy out of the pump. That stuff is all over the place. Drive on pump E85, tune and race on your own mix.
WhatsADSM
10-08-2009, 02:05 PM
hmmmm, more info on E98? what is needed to run it? same as E85? just bigger injectors?

Same as E85 (which really isn't *just* bigger injectors).

Also for the record I personally still don't see the usefulness of e98. Street cars are better off running E85 (and/or pump for street days and c16/q16 for track days), while race cars are still better off with c16/q16 since cost isn't as much of an issue.
Dr.Buick
10-08-2009, 02:23 PM
because guy are making more power on e98 than q16. and it's 10.00 a gal cheeper
WhatsADSM
10-08-2009, 03:14 PM
because guy are making more power on e98 than q16. and it's 10.00 a gal cheeper

E98 is a little over 110 octane. I will admit it pulls a lot of heat out of the intake charge and that additionally helps.

However you get almost all of the same benefits when you run standard e85, however it is A LOT cheaper than e98, and it is much more available. I can actually run my street car on e85 easily as there are many stations in the Milwaukee area. However with E98 you pay more (even though IMO it should be LESS as ethanol is cheaper than refined crude), and you have to buy it as you would race gas. Also as mentioned above E85 is more forgiving to the fuel system than e98.

If E98 came at a pump for roughly the same price as E85, I too would sing it's praises... but until then it just doesn't seem worth it.
juicedimpss
10-08-2009, 03:21 PM
for controlled consistancy in an all out effort race combo,it is great news.
domokun
10-08-2009, 03:45 PM
chad likes men.....jk
DR.FORD
10-08-2009, 03:46 PM
because guy are making more power on e98 than q16 WITHOUT AN INTERCOOLER and it's 10.00 a gal cheeper

I fixed your quote for ya!
No doubt it is less expensive, but there are no records that I know of where E85 or E98 was faster that Q16- besides, I know how tight your budget is, Jim:goof :rolf:rolf:rolf
michelle
10-08-2009, 03:46 PM
I was expecting so much more with this thread from just reading the title. I am disappointed. ):
Dr.Buick
10-08-2009, 07:50 PM
I fixed your quote for ya!
No doubt it is less expensive, but there are no records that I know of where E85 or E98 was faster that Q16- besides, I know how tight your budget is, Jim:goof :rolf:rolf:rolf
I will still have a intercooler:wooo. Jim can't you see the leaves falling off the tree.:D
Smokey1226
10-08-2009, 10:49 PM
E98 is a little over 110 octane. I will admit it pulls a lot of heat out of the intake charge and that additionally helps.
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im going to just quote this part and simply put it this way.....You tell me what 110 fuel or any SUB $5/gallon fuel can handle 2 Power adders and 1110+ hp???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoXedpDRPFE&feature=PlayList&p=138B005573137D8B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2


;)
Smokey1226
10-08-2009, 10:51 PM
Or 43psi.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8apqMIelQY with cool intake temps :D
BOSS LX
10-08-2009, 10:51 PM
im going to just quote this part and simply put it this way.....You tell me what 110 fuel or any SUB $5/gallon fuel can handle 2 Power adders and 1110+ hp???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoXedpDRPFE&feature=PlayList&p=138B005573137D8B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2


;)

Supra power don't count! :rolf
BOSS LX
10-08-2009, 10:52 PM
because guy are making more power on e98 than q16. and it's 10.00 a gal cheeper

:wooo
Smokey1226
10-08-2009, 10:59 PM
Supra power don't count! :rolf
lol true! Thats why i included a 800+hp 4g63....if they can hold power on a Mitzi motor, it can handle anything :goof
floaters
10-08-2009, 11:43 PM
Supra power don't count! :rolf

dont hate :thumbsup
ThatWhiteCivic
10-09-2009, 01:02 AM
You sell leaded gas? Thinking about a 1969 Mercury outboard engine.
Dr.Buick
10-09-2009, 07:06 AM
Well we will see if 1700 to 2100 hp is possible on e98. than we will try Q16. Mike Moran injectors can go both ways.:wooo
DR.FORD
10-09-2009, 08:47 AM
I will still have a intercooler:wooo. Jim can't you see the leaves falling off the tree.:D

I too enjoy the leaves falling
WhatsADSM
10-09-2009, 10:35 AM
im going to just quote this part and simply put it this way.....You tell me what 110 fuel or any SUB $5/gallon fuel can handle 2 Power adders and 1110+ hp???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoXedpDRPFE&feature=PlayList&p=138B005573137D8B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=2


;)

My point is just that 105 octane E-85 can handle 2 power adders, and 1110+ hp... Hell, didn't AWD motorsports just do 800whp, 8-second 2.0l (maybe it was a 2.3l) evo running 40psi or so on e-85. With any decent sized motor, that can EASILY eclipse 1110. Personally, for any car that is really a street car e-85 is the way to go. It's not as corrosive as e98, its much more available, it gives you almost all the benefits of e98, and my last fill up cost me $2.09/gal. In terms of using it for a race car... I'm still not convinced. I think c16/q16 is a better fuel, but you have a point it is definately more expensive... although fuel for a race car budget isn't typically the killer either.

However I would like to apologize. I didn't mean for the thread about you to turn into a debate about the gas. Everyone sings your praises, and from the limited amount I have talked to you, you seem like a really nice guy... So back to the regularly scheduled program... I totally agree with Jim you are the man! :thumbsup
Smokey1226
10-09-2009, 11:22 AM
My point is just that 105 octane E-85 can handle 2 power adders, and 1110+ hp... Hell, didn't AWD motorsports just do 800whp, 8-second 2.0l (maybe it was a 2.3l) evo running 40psi or so on e-85. With any decent sized motor, that can EASILY eclipse 1110. Personally, for any car that is really a street car e-85 is the way to go. It's not as corrosive as e98, its much more available, it gives you almost all the benefits of e98, and my last fill up cost me $2.09/gal. In terms of using it for a race car... I'm still not convinced. I think c16/q16 is a better fuel, but you have a point it is definately more expensive... although fuel for a race car budget isn't typically the killer either.

However I would like to apologize. I didn't mean for the thread about you to turn into a debate about the gas. Everyone sings your praises, and from the limited amount I have talked to you, you seem like a really nice guy... So back to the regularly scheduled program... I totally agree with Jim you are the man! :thumbsup
No worries, And you do have a great point, but i didn't want to go into much detail as it wasn't my new setup...but Jims going for BIGGG power. And i just don't think E85 would of handled it. But i will let him talk about that more in depth if he wants too.

And i do agree E85 is a great buy, hell if i had a turbo car i would be on it too. E98 isn't for everyone, thats forsure. But when you get into the big HP mark, guys were looking for consistancy, and you just don't have that with Pump E85, exp in the Midwest. If you were to check any pump E85 right now, you aren't even close to 85%. A lot of guys in ILL that own Evo/Subi shops called me wanting E98 because of just that, blending their own E85 for Spring/fall use. As well as dynoing/testing cars over winter months. Instead of trying to wait last minute and get a E85 tune in, around May when the pump E85 is back to 85%, which is also when racing season is already underway. That way you get back the lubercation with petro gas, and can have one kickass tune for street and strip use!

So please don't think i was attacking you back, i was trying to explain without going into detail what i was doing with the E98 stuff. Hopefully Jim can do work and put Cornfed Powaa on the map. :thumbsup
DR.FORD
10-09-2009, 12:35 PM
Then I'll call him "Cornholio":rolf
Smokey1226
10-09-2009, 01:23 PM
BWAHWHA ftw!!! Classic!
juicedimpss
10-09-2009, 01:34 PM
"Chad Schmidt is the MAN"









or is he......
lol