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letsrunem
07-30-2009, 02:51 AM
Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics camera was busted!! :crying

I bought the car as a roller, came with an 8pt cage and a set of Prostars, 5-lug conversion, rear disc. Instead of doing a 347 or 351W that you see in 80% for the Foxes out there, I decided to do things a little differently.

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-stew-
07-30-2009, 09:28 AM
Looks good. Why the t56 if your going drag racing? Is that a grey interior?

Flicktitty
07-30-2009, 09:33 AM
that is badass!

Irish
07-30-2009, 09:42 AM
Glad to see you finally posted some pictures!

SBC-Fox
07-30-2009, 12:55 PM
Bad ass dude showing them ford boys how to do it. Did you go with the AJE k member also ? By chance were you at st. doms fair/car show with this car?

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 01:28 PM
Bad ass dude showing them ford boys how to do it.

Hmmmmmm....do what?

Since when is a SBC or an LSX different? How many platforms have those motors been in now, especially a fox? I thought I was going to see a Chrysler motor in it or something. :thumbsup

BOSS LX
07-30-2009, 01:48 PM
Hmmmmmm....do what?



How to make real power, duh!

SBC-Fox
07-30-2009, 02:06 PM
Hmmmmmm....do what?

Since when is a SBC or an LSX different? How many platforms have those motors been in now, especially a fox? I thought I was going to see a Chrysler motor in it or something. :thumbsup

I think i heard a tear fall down? You must have stock in ford somthing what does it matter what motors in it its a nice looking fox ?

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 02:38 PM
I think i heard a tear fall down? You must have stock in ford somthing what does it matter what motors in it its a nice looking fox ?

It is a nice car, I just don't understand why everyone thinks different in a foxbody is a SBC or an LSX. It has been done to death.

I am just not a fan of brand swapping for motors and chassis, especially fox bodys because I don't think there is any advantage. Call me a purist, but thats just my opinion.

I don't mean to come off as a dick to the owner of the car, it looks nicely done, but I just had to give you a hard time for the motor choice. :D

Irish
07-30-2009, 02:54 PM
lsx > sbf

;)

letsrunem
07-30-2009, 02:55 PM
Looks good. Why the t56 if your going drag racing? Is that a grey interior?

I absolutely HEART my 6-speed on the street, but Irish may have talked me into a TH400 or something in the future :goof. Not trying for any crazy times until I can do some rearend/rear suspension work.


that is badass!

Thanks! :headbang


Glad to see you finally posted some pictures!

:D


Bad ass dude showing them ford boys how to do it. Did you go with the AJE k member also ? By chance were you at st. doms fair/car show with this car?

Yup AJE k-member/a-arms, Flaming River rack yup I was at Dom's for a bit, got there late.


How to make real power, duh!

I think it's your old FPR that gives it so much power :goof

BOSS LX
07-30-2009, 02:58 PM
I think it's your old FPR that gives it so much power :goof

If I had known it was going on a lsx mustang, I would have burned it!:thumbsup


Cool project, I am just a Ford guy that hates to see gm motors in my favorite car.

BOSS LX
07-30-2009, 03:00 PM
lsx > sbf

;)

Every form of drag racing says other wise! I think 8 out of 10 of the most powerful motors on this site are Ford's!:headbang

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 03:00 PM
lsx > sbf

;)

lol, keep telling yourself that. :D

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 03:01 PM
Every form of drag racing says other wise! I think 8 out of 10 of the most powerful motors on this site are Ford's!:headbang

What just set the record on a 275 radial, oh yeah SBF!!! :headbang

letsrunem
07-30-2009, 03:04 PM
If I had known it was going on a lsx mustang, I would have burned it!:thumbsup


Cool project, I am just a Ford guy that hates to see gm motors in my favorite car.

I used what I had available to me, hotrodding FTW. How do you feel about Mazda or even GASP Yamaha motors being used in Fords?

Irish
07-30-2009, 03:07 PM
It's easy to bolt a sbf into a mustang...


I am going to steal Boss's own quote against him, "If it was easy, it wouldn't be cool!"

lol

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 03:19 PM
It's easy to bolt a sbf into a mustang...


I am going to steal Boss's own quote against him, "If it was easy, it wouldn't be cool!"

lol

With a swap K member, swap headers, and etc so does an LSX physically. :thumbsup

I think Andy's quote was meant for 8 and 9 second cars... :thumbsup

Irish
07-30-2009, 03:21 PM
With a swap K member, swap headers, and etc so does an LSX physically. :thumbsup Yea....no. :shades


I think Andy's quote was meant for 8 and 9 second cars... :thumbsup

Just because there aren't 8 or 9 second LSx cars in this neck of the woods, doesn't mean they don't exist. :thumbsup

97z2801ss
07-30-2009, 03:29 PM
thats cool! good work, I seen the ls1 tech in the first picture and I knew what was comming:)

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 03:31 PM
Yea....no. :shades



Just because there aren't 8 or 9 second LSx cars in this neck of the woods, doesn't mean they don't exist. :thumbsup

What do you mean no, lol. How is it any different than bolting in a windsor with an aftermarket EFI system.

I didn't mean that by the 8 and 9 second car comment, I just meant it as a whole. Consistent 8 and 9 second cars of any brand aren't just bolt on and go cars.

Irish
07-30-2009, 03:35 PM
What do you mean no, lol. How is it any different than bolting in a windsor with an aftermarket EFI system.

I didn't mean that by the 8 and 9 second car comment, I just meant it as a whole. Consistent 8 and 9 second cars of any brand aren't just bolt on and go cars.

Meaning you have steering issues, the exhaust is not necessarily a bolt on affair from what I have heard.. The whole wiring situation is it's own complete entity.. I guess what I am trying to say is you CAN build a 1000 hp windsor with off the shelf parts and it is a direct bolt in to the car.

Neither the lsx or the sbf are harder then say.. 4 valver or a vanquish v10 in one. But to casually say it's a bolt in process is not correct.

scaleracer
07-30-2009, 03:55 PM
I saw that at St. Dominics but didn't get a chance to talk to you deffinately a nice little street car! :headbang

SBC-Fox
07-30-2009, 03:58 PM
It's not as easy as everyone says (not to take away from this thread ) but all I bought was the k member I made the headers made the steering shaft have to have a driveshaft made just a couple off the top of my head it wasnt a weekend bolt in job. just imo

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 04:01 PM
I guess what I am trying to say is you CAN build a 1000 hp windsor with off the shelf parts and it is a direct bolt in to the car.

First of all when you are talking that much power, nothing is a bolt in affair! When I have the car out soon, you can take a look and see how much is bolt in. I didn't think we were talking about cars at that level. If the SBF is injected, a standalone management system is almost a must have, so there is wiring envoled there like the LSX. I don't know many 1000hp SBFs that don't have custom exhaust also, and yes fords have to deal with the steering shaft just as much as an LSX does.

My point was not to say that they just bolt in like you are putting headers and a cold air kit on a stock motor. I just meant that the motor itself with those swap items would be very similar to putting a windsor motor in the car with today's parts. The only thing you would need extra would be a crossmember, which I am sure someone makes one, and a custom driveshaft.

Plum Crazy
07-30-2009, 04:34 PM
Hmmmmmm....do what?

Since when is a SBC or an LSX different? How many platforms have those motors been in now, especially a fox? I thought I was going to see a Chrysler motor in it or something. :thumbsup


6.1L hemi in a fox body, the Ford guys would shit a brick.

Irish
07-30-2009, 04:41 PM
6.1L hemi in a fox body, the Ford guys would shit a brick.

That'd be awesome too!

letsrunem
07-30-2009, 05:03 PM
What do you mean no, lol. How is it any different than bolting in a windsor with an aftermarket EFI system.

I didn't mean that by the 8 and 9 second car comment, I just meant it as a whole. Consistent 8 and 9 second cars of any brand aren't just bolt on and go cars.

Knowing what I know now, I could do this swap again in a week or two, minus the turbo setup. This project took me about 3 months, started with a shortblock and the roller. If it were an auto it would've been much easier. I had to convert a cable clutch assy to operate the f-body hydraulics which wasn't all that difficult, just time consuming. Same thing for the turbo setup. Having never owned or even worked on a turbo car, I had to learn a lot.

All in all, I'm very happy I decided to go this route.. I've had sooo much fun with this car building it and now driving it.

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 05:14 PM
Knowing what I know now, I could do this swap again in a week or two, minus the turbo setup. This project took me about 3 months, started with a shortblock and the roller. If it were an auto it would've been much easier. I had to convert a cable clutch assy to operate the f-body hydraulics which wasn't all that difficult, just time consuming. Same thing for the turbo setup. Having never owned or even worked on a turbo car, I had to learn a lot.

All in all, I'm very happy I decided to go this route.. I've had sooo much fun with this car building it and now driving it.

Thank you!

My point was not to down play your car at all, everything looks like it turned out very nicely. To a certain point with both the SBF and SBC motors, it is a bolt in and go affair. When you start talking turbo kits and the power number goes up, it doesn't end up being a quite so black and white bolt in affair.

Again, I didn't mean to sh!t up your thread! :thumbsup

letsrunem
07-30-2009, 05:44 PM
Thank you!

My point was not to down play your car at all, everything looks like it turned out very nicely. To a certain point with both the SBF and SBC motors, it is a bolt in and go affair. When you start talking turbo kits and the power number goes up, it doesn't end up being a quite so black and white bolt in affair.

Again, I didn't mean to sh!t up your thread! :thumbsup

It does look like the motor was meant to be there, and the T56 fit in there with no banging necessary. Yes the motors are very similar, there's no HUGE difference... but it's all the little things that are different that are time consuming :banana1:

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 06:27 PM
It does look like the motor was meant to be there, and the T56 fit in there with no banging necessary. Yes the motors are very similar, there's no HUGE difference... but it's all the little things that are different that are time consuming :banana1:

I know exactly what you mean! :thumbsup

Irish
07-30-2009, 06:30 PM
1000hp motor using "off the shelf" parts. And it's a ford too so it should make you happy Bobby.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_0606_blown_427_ford_windsor/index.html

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 07:27 PM
1000hp motor using "off the shelf" parts. And it's a ford too so it should make you happy Bobby.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_0606_blown_427_ford_windsor/index.html

Yep, all off the shelf everyday parts on that motor! Nothing custom made at all, especially when they have to drop it into a car. All parts come off of a shelf in someones shop at some time, so I guess everything is considered off the shelf.

I knew I have been doing it all wrong this whole time, lol. :thumbsup

Irish
07-30-2009, 08:03 PM
Yep, all off the shelf everyday parts on that motor! Nothing custom made at all, especially when they have to drop it into a car. All parts come off of a shelf in someones shop at some time, so I guess everything is considered off the shelf.

I knew I have been doing it all wrong this whole time, lol. :thumbsup

"Holley's goal of bypassing the crate-engine route and assembling an engine from parts worked well, going together with a minimum of hassles and easily handling the impressive power and torque. Like most moderate-rpm, higher-boost blower engines, this motor uses high-quality parts-there's nothing low-buck about this approach. But there's also nothing here we'd label exotic or completely off the financial scale"

All I am saying is that if it wasn't so expensive to make a ford small block go fast, we'd all being doing it. The fact that other people have paved the way with research and development has made it possible for an average guy with a decent chunk of money able to pick the right parts to make that kind of power.

The thing that I found most interesting is they made 1,047 horse power with an uber rich afr, on 91 octane. I find that very impressive. :headbang

If you and I are going to get into a ford debate, which I am totally willing to do, A. I need some more Mt. Dew B. Some food wouldn't hurt either, nourishment always helps, and C. You and I have both cluttered this thread enough with our different points of view. If you would like, we could take it to the Chatbox or PM's. :thumbsup

Either way, I hope you aren't taking this to heart as this debate is older than you or I and will probably continue long after we are gone.. except it will more than likely be about electric motor torque curves, or rather the lack thereof.:rolf

FourEyedFord
07-30-2009, 08:29 PM
"Holley's goal of bypassing the crate-engine route and assembling an engine from parts worked well, going together with a minimum of hassles and easily handling the impressive power and torque. Like most moderate-rpm, higher-boost blower engines, this motor uses high-quality parts-there's nothing low-buck about this approach. But there's also nothing here we'd label exotic or completely off the financial scale"

All I am saying is that if it wasn't so expensive to make a ford small block go fast, we'd all being doing it. The fact that other people have paved the way with research and development has made it possible for an average guy with a decent chunk of money able to pick the right parts to make that kind of power.

The thing that I found most interesting is they made 1,047 horse power with an uber rich afr, on 91 octane. I find that very impressive. :headbang

If you and I are going to get into a ford debate, which I am totally willing to do, A. I need some more Mt. Dew B. Some food wouldn't hurt either, nourishment always helps, and C. You and I have both cluttered this thread enough with our different points of view. If you would like, we could take it to the Chatbox or PM's. :thumbsup

Either way, I hope you aren't taking this to heart as this debate is older than you or I and will probably continue long after we are gone.. except it will more than likely be about electric motor torque curves, or rather the lack thereof.:rolf

What about the custom plumbing, the guy that designed the carb was tuning it--not quite out of the box, custom blower pistons, custom cam, head work, and etc. Yes there is nothing there I would call totally exotic, but to call it an off the shelf motor is rediculous. What about when you put it in the car: cage, motor and mid plate, suspension work, plumbing, and on and on.

I don't get your point here. If you think for a second you can make a real 1000hp RELIABLY with a mostly stock LSX you are in LALA land. Its going to take the same forged rotating assembly, ported heads, upgraded valvetrain, possible aftermarket or iron block, and etc to match what that windsor motor can do. Not even mentioning the power adder. Especially if its a turbo motor, that will most likely include plenty of custom work there. So how can you say money is the issue?

I don't care to get into a Chevy or Ford debate with you. I like what I like, and I KNOW that there is nothing you can say to prove otherwise. I am not afraid to tell someone I don't like them Irish, and this discussion is in no way changing my opinion of you. I will just point and laugh at you next time I see you! :D People are entitled to like what they like.

Gregor
07-30-2009, 09:07 PM
1000hp motor using "off the shelf" parts. And it's a ford too so it should make you happy Bobby.

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_0606_blown_427_ford_windsor/index.html


I love that engine. Its like Automotive porn.


Is this the car that was on Craigslist a few months back?

letsrunem
07-31-2009, 04:29 PM
I love that engine. Its like Automotive porn.


Is this the car that was on Craigslist a few months back?

Yup, bought it from a dude named "Honest Al" in Ocon. He picked it up from some guy in Milwaukee who had a stock 5.0 with twin turbos on it. It was making some grinding noise that the previous owner thought was internal engine problems, so he sold it really cheap to this Al guy. Turned out to be some debris hitting the flexplate or something like that, so Al pulled the motor and sold everything separate.

nismodave
07-31-2009, 05:34 PM
Sweet car...Love the combo!!