2010 Taurus and SHO HERE!!!!

[johnny--2k]

If anyone is interested in seeing these cars up close and inperson, we will have a regular Taurus and an SHO here at Uptown this afternoon sometime. They will be gone by morning, and will NOT be available for test drives. These cars are basically for the press to drive and review.

I'm here till 9 tonight, so if you come by, just ask for John Hennes

2111 N Mayfair Rd, 2 blocks South of North Ave on the west side of the street.

I'm actually pretty excited to see the SHO upclose, and I can't wait to drive one! :headbang

[Car Guy]

And to think I almost drove up to Green Bay too see them, should be there in a few hours......:headbang

[07ROUSHSTG3]

i am contemplating trading in my wifes milan and putting her in an SHO. if anyone goes to see these cars....UPDATES and OPINIONS are a must, LOL!

[Waver]

you suck lol

[STANMAN]

Anyone who was doubting what I was saying in the "Test drove a 2010 Mustang GT" thread should go and see the SHO for yourself. It's pure sex.

[johnny--2k]

The car is here!!!! Awesome looking trailer that it came in too!

[johnny--2k]

Come on down guys!

[07ROUSHSTG3]

i saw the "fiesta" trailer the other day. ford is not holding anything back.

[Rocket Power]

They should have used a see-through side trailer like when the 05 Mustang came out.

[Car Guy]

I'll be there shortly, same setup that was in Green Bay......:)

[johnny--2k]

At lunch. Back in 20

[Prince Valiant]

Anyone who was doubting what I was saying in the "Test drove a 2010 Mustang GT" thread should go and see the SHO for yourself. It's pure sex. Perhaps you need a better sex life?

[Karps TA]

:rolf

[Waver]

So will all ford dealers be etting a stop or just the "select" ones

[johnny--2k]

not sure honestly....

[tommyt5078]

Please, pictures of the car not the trailer!!!!!

[GTSLOW]

They have the same trailer here in Madison right now also. Not sure what dealer but its been here a few days.

[STANMAN]

Perhaps you need a better sex life?

I am talking for a 4 door family sedan, lol.

[johnny--2k]

pics comin, otherwise I will get out my real camera and get some pics up tonight. Cell phone pics don't do it justice....

[0TransAm0]

what is so good about these cars again?

[95mustang302]

^^^^ twin turbo v6 awd

[johnny--2k]

The car.....

[johnny--2k]

Last one....

[0TransAm0]

^^^^ twin turbo v6 awd


your kidding right?




it looks nice in the pics but i still don't understand what all the hype is about it.. unless it really does have a tt v6.

[88Nightmare]

id like to see a black one

[noeggs4u]

Nice looking car,hope it sells.

[Irish]

your kidding right?

Nope. 360 horse TT V6.

[0TransAm0]

let me guess 30-35k for the car?

[Irish]

let me guess 30-35k for the car?

I think its a little more... like 37-38ish

[0TransAm0]

I think its a little more... like 37-38ish


lmao thats crazy.. for that kinda money i think i would rather get that ford baha type truck that was posted the other day..or better yet keep my money and buy something cheeper..

[lordairgtar]

I like the look of that car. Is the SHO different in the exterior from normal Taurii.

[STANMAN]

I like the look of that car. Is the SHO different in the exterior from normal Taurii.

Not much.

[johnny--2k]

not much difference other than wheels and grill.

365HP, should be good for low 13's to high 12's on a lucky night! It's a ballsy car for sure, just waiting to actually get behind the wheel of one first!

[johnny--2k]

A fully optioned SHO will actually sticker for close to 41K, but honestly, who pays sticker....

[lordairgtar]

http://www.fordvehicles.com/2010taurus/
Very nicely done. I really love the tail light design and the interior is real classy.

[TURTLE]

5-6 speed option? if not, count me out... :(

[johnny--2k]

nope, 6-speed auto with paddle shifters on the wheel.

[TURTLE]

i need 3 pedals by my feet to fully enjoy a car... like the GT3 porsche at work the other day.... :devil:headbang

[Deggy]

And to think they dropped the Taurus line for what like 2 years before bringing it back?

[WilliamZ]

Back in the day the 93'ish SHO's were cool, to me it was drastically different than your grandma's Taurus. The next gen wasn't that great, and this doesn't seem that great. Eh

[BOSS LX]

VERY nice!

What about an SVT Fusion? :headbang

This new platform and the eco boost motor couldn't have came at a better time for Ford.

[GTSLOW]

I just don't see it. It may be fast but it still looks like...... eh ya.


I predict a flop, but that's just my opinion.

[michelle]

:banana

[moels]

I think the car looks like all the other cars on the road. WTF is with all the cars coming out with prices of more than $35k? I know I wouldn't spend that kind of coin on this car. In fact I won't spend that on any car.......unless the lottery comes my way.

[gottwins?]

Perhaps you need a better sex life?

Burn! :rolf

[STANMAN]

And to think they dropped the Taurus line for what like 2 years before bringing it back?

They never dropped it, it was always available as a fleet vehicle. In 08 they brought it back to the public when it replaced the 500.

[GRAMPS SS]

They never dropped it, it was always available as a fleet vehicle. In 08 they brought it back to the public when it replaced the 500.

you mean when they took the 500 badges off cause it wasn't selling all that well.... and replaced them with the TAURUS badges to bring back sales.......still not liken this SHO.a little pricey..i like the older ones...JMO...

[95mustang302]

Now, Next question, what will it take to shoehorn that motor in a fusion LOL

[88Nightmare]

gimme a 2nd gen manual SHO. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/Ford_Taurus_SHO_(second-gen).jpg

[Car Guy]

I won't give you mine but you can buy it from me.....:devil

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3/KarGuy/sho/DSCN6193.jpg

[CATNHAT]

My first "Brand New" car was a 93 SHO, white with white wheels, grey leather and this new version looks 10X better! The interior alone makes it worth buying. And the 93 had the Yamaha 220 HP V6 and now a TT 365 HP--GTFO!! Cool!

Would definitely like to see a black one though.

[Plum Crazy]

Im gunna have to agree, i like the old one better.

[letsrunem]

High 12s? BS x1000

[Nick]

looks very sharp. this will be good

[Car Guy]

High 12s? BS x1000

High 12s might be pushing it in stock form but mid 13s all day long. Just wait until the modifying begins, then you will see 12 second times with ease......:thumbsup

[johnny--2k]

My bad on the 12's, the MKS clipped off a 13.9, 10HP less and a lot more weight... The taurus should be good for mid to high 13's with out a problem...

[Car Guy]

No test drive...??? :shades

[STANMAN]

you mean when they took the 500 badges off cause it wasn't selling all that well.... and replaced them with the TAURUS badges to bring back sales.......still not liken this SHO.a little pricey..i like the older ones...JMO...

Actually it was one of the 1st things their new CEO did when he came on board. He asked why they were doing away with a nameplate that was an icon and renaming it something nobody knew. They changed it after no one could come up with a good answer. People see my car and are like "That's a Taurus, WOW they have come a long way":rolf

[pOrk]

I don't see what the hype is about either, the G8 has way better looks then this turd imo.

[07ROUSHSTG3]

I don't see what the hype is about either, the G8 has way better looks then this turd imo.

what is a g8?.....oh yeah, that car from that company that isnt in business anymore. the second largest flop of a car release since the gto. i remember now.:banana1:

the SHO is a cool car. screw all the haters. AWD twin turbo and you guys are seriously knocking it??? if it would have a chevy badge on the front you guys would be all over it :rolleyes:.

[animal]

if it would have a chevy badge on the front you guys would be all over it :rolleyes:.

Exactly what I was thinking. :shades

FTR i hate the pricetag. I'll look for one used in a year or two.

[pOrk]

It looks like every other newer 4 door grocery getter. The interior is nice, the exterior is bland as hell. Ford or not, its way over priced and doesn't stand out at all.

[DirtyMax]

It's a bit spendy yes but what does Obama motors (or anyone else for that matter) have that compares? That makes it diffficult to determine if it's overpriced or not. Being that it's an AWD sedan with some zip, what can you compare it to? G35X maybe? Legacy B-Spec? I think both of those can get expensive in a hurry too....

[WhatsADSM]

It's a bit spendy yes but what does Obama motors (or anyone else for that matter) have that compares? That makes it diffficult to determine if it's overpriced or not. Being that it's an AWD sedan with some zip, what can you compare it to? G35X maybe? Legacy B-Spec? I think both of those can get expensive in a hurry too....

The 2 you have listed... Also can't forget it will be competing with the BMW 335xi (Base MSRP is only a few thousand more)
:drool::drool:

[Plum Crazy]

I still think an AWD hemi Charger looks better, and you can get one for the same price, if not less than an SHO and the Charger has more HP (379 in 2009 models)

[Prince Valiant]

Yeah, all those other cars are essentially mid-sizes, whereas the Ford and Dodge would approximate full-size car

[udlose98]

It looks like every other newer 4 door grocery getter. The interior is nice, the exterior is bland as hell. Ford or not, its way over priced and doesn't stand out at all.

yes, that.

[Nick]

Ford newest designs are really nice. The new Taurus, the Fusion, the mid size SUV's (Edge) etc.. They are all eating up GM & Chryslers failures and for good reason.

Th G8 is a nice car, but come on - guess what is not being produced anymore? Live in the now.

The majority of the US is not looking for the fastest gas hog in the world anymore. They are looking for sleek looks and comfortable, affordable efficiency.

Chrysler and GM failed because of greed and union workers. GM had a nice line going - it's sad. Chrysler was boring and everyone knew it. The only exciting thing to come out of them in recent history was the Viper, and even that lost its appeal over the years. I would do a double take at that Saturn two door coupe because it looked more appealing compared to the viper.

Ford is on the right track. They need to keep at it. Their stock price says it all. Up over 500% since February.

[SSLEVO]

41k for a taurus??? I'll take the Evo X over this thing any day of the week. Those can be had for low 30's and are bullet proof, they have amazing brakes and suspension too. Who knows what this thing will do when modified. All i can remember is the horible yamaha V8 they used last time, lol.

[Nick]

41k for a taurus??? I'll take the Evo X over this thing any day of the week. Those can be had for low 30's and are bullit proof and actually have brakes and suspension. Who knows what this thing will do when modified. All i can remember is the horible yamaha V8 they used last time, lol.


Apples to Grapes. Are you serious? An Evo compared to a Taurus?

:rolf

People who will be buying the SHO are NOT buying it for the reasons people are buying Evo's. Shit - it's an entirely different demographic all together.

:rolf

[SSLEVO]

Apples to Grapes. Are you serious? An Evo compared to a Taurus?

:rolf

People who will be buying the SHO are NOT buying it for the reasons people are buying Evo's. Shit - it's an entirely different demographic all together.

:rolf

Not really dude, its a 4 door sedan with quite a bit of power and AWD. Is this thing suppose to be a luxury car? LOL If not then it is the same exact car as the evo. The evo X is much more refined and streetable than the 8 and 9 were. Have you driven an X?

Sure it may be a different demographic but the evo has much more for less money.

[johnny--2k]

I'm going to agree with Nick. You are comparing apples to grapes. Totally different buyer segment. The evo is for the 20-30 males, while the taurus is going to appeal more to the middle aged 35 and up professionals who want to have some fun on their daily commute to work and can afford the price tag.

Shit, look at the G8 GXP, what's the sticker on that? and you CANT EVEN GET NAV?!?! What kind of crap is that? No nav, no HID lights, no AWD.... please!

As for other comparisons, you can't compare this car to the 3 series, Infinity G, or anything mid-sized. Ford is going after the 5-series BMW, Infinity M, Mercedes E, and the larger luxo-sport sedans, including the 300 moreso than the Charger....

Let's compare apples to apples, then this would make more sense. As for Ford as a company, they are kicking butt. Initial quality has passed Honda, and will very soon be passing Toyota as well since they are tied. The technology is wa passed GM and Chrysler, and catching up QUICKLY to the euro/jap cars. Adaptive cruise control, Blind Spot Info System, etc...etc... This is not the ford of the 90's or early 2000's anymore.

[88Nightmare]

adaptive cruise control?

[88Nightmare]

ok nevermind, I just googled it. Apparently the adaptive cruise control was offered by GM starting in 2004 on the Cadillac DTS, STS, and XLR. Ford didnt offer it until 2006.....

[WhatsADSM]

I totally agree that no one will cross shop the Evo and SHO... or at least very few will.

I am still not convinced that people considering the SHO wouldn't be interested in the mid-sized variants from other manufacturers. If we were talking about the standard Taurus then I would agree, but the SHO is aiming to have performance people flock to it with overall size potentially ranking a little lower on the scale. Mid-size cars of today are still very large. Honestly who knows, but it will be very interesting to see how this car does. Looks pretty cool to me, and I would LOVE a fusion, or better yet a focus with this drivetrain in it!! I'm just not old enough yet to really want a large performance sedan :(

[johnny--2k]

ok nevermind, I just googled it. Apparently the adaptive cruise control was offered by GM starting in 2004 on the Cadillac DTS, STS, and XLR. Ford didnt offer it until 2006.....

Yes, it's been on cars before, just using it as an example of how they are catching up with these features. Considering they are all Luxury cars that have it, for example it is now only available on the 90K plus MB S-Class, etc....these are $50,000+ cars.

[SSLEVO]

I can agree they aren't geared to the same group of people, simply stating as far as a performance car the evo is a much better value.

I'm sorry but people don't buy a 5 series BMW because of its performance. Its all in the name, and the taurus just isn't going to do it for a lot of people.

Sure i think its a cool car and it's great that they came out with the turbo and AWD but to think it is going to take sales away from the 5 series BMW is a joke.

Its a cool car but i think they missed the price point. Low 30's maybe but at 40k idk if it will sell.

[WhatsADSM]

I can agree they aren't geared to the same group of people, simply stating as far as a performance car the evo is a much better value.

I'm sorry but people don't buy a 5 series BMW because of its performance. Its all in the name, and the taurus just isn't going to do it for a lot of people.

Sure i think its a cool car and it's great that they came out with the turbo and AWD but to think it is going to take sales away from the 5 series BMW is a joke.

Its a cool car but i think they missed the price point. Low 30's maybe but at 40k idk if it will sell.

It is going to take away more sales from the 5 series than it will a evo x.

Saying the evo x is a better performance/$ isn't the point. The SRT-4, the Mazdaspeed3, the Cobalt SS, the Mustang, Camaro, Genesis Coupe, etc are also all better performance/$ cars as well...
The SHO people will be interested in performance along with some degree of FAMILY SEDAN sophistication. The aforementioned cars are all great performance values, however they are all either econobox performance cars, or "sports" cars/coupes... It is a different segment.

[07ROUSHSTG3]

comparing the SHO to the evo X is retarded.

[STANMAN]

It is going to take away more sales from the 5 series than it will a evo x.

Saying the evo x is a better performance/$ isn't the point. The SRT-4, the Mazdaspeed3, the Cobalt SS, the Mustang, Camaro, Genesis Coupe, etc are also all better performance/$ cars as well...
The SHO people will be interested in performance along with some degree of FAMILY SEDAN sophistication. The aforementioned cars are all great performance values, however they are all either econobox performance cars, or "sports" cars/coupes... It is a different segment.

What he said.

[Karps TA]

But what kind of market even exists for such a car? The G8 GT is a low $30K car that offers a great interior and decent styling with plenty of room and value, yet those cars are not flying off the lot.

If Ford is okay with selling only a couple thousand a year, then it'll work out just fine. If they think they are going to need to sell 10,000 + a year, I just don't see it. Not at that price tag. Not in this economy. I think they'll struggle to sell 5000 units.

[Nick]

Not really dude, its a 4 door sedan with quite a bit of power and AWD. Is this thing suppose to be a luxury car? LOL If not then it is the same exact car as the evo. The evo X is much more refined and streetable than the 8 and 9 were. Have you driven an X?

Sure it may be a different demographic but the evo has much more for less money.

More for less money?

It's a completely different animal once again. You don't understand and I don't expect you to. The comfort factor alone places the SHO in a completely different category. You are just compartmentalizing what YOU want in a vehicle in general, and assuming that's what everyone else wants.

The points have been made in this thread by Myself, WhatsADSM and Johnny. Nothing more needs to be said.

[Nick]

But what kind of market even exists for such a car? The G8 GT is a low $30K car that offers a great interior and decent styling with plenty of room and value, yet those cars are not flying off the lot.

If Ford is okay with selling only a couple thousand a year, then it'll work out just fine. If they think they are going to need to sell 10,000 + a year, I just don't see it. Not at that price tag. Not in this economy. I think they'll struggle to sell 5000 units.

What kind of market? The non-existent market that now exists because Pontiac is no more.
They are not flying off the lot because of the recent events that are happening in the auto industry.

[Karps TA]

Wha? So just as I said Ford is going to scavage under 5000 units with Pontiac now gone. Last time I checked the economy and the recent events of the auto industry are still happening. It's a pretty damn small niche IMO. They are better off making an affordable performance option out of the Fusion which would garner way more sales.

Fact of the matter is that regardless of what people may ohh and ahh over on a website doesn't mean jack shit cause 99% of them will never spend the money to buy the car. Ford really doesn't give a shit if you want to buy one used in 2-4 years. That really doesn't do much for them.

[Nick]

99% of people wouldn't spend the money to buy a Spec B Subaru Legacy but I did.

:shrug:

People are missing the point.

[Karps TA]

So the best way to save your business is to cater to the 1%?

I fully admit I don't get the point of the car - at $40K

At under $35K loaded - tremendous car. At $40K before dealer markup premiums, I don't understand the car at all.

[Nick]

A lot of people don't see the point in buying a Porsche or a Mercedes either. There will always be a small niche of people for a product.

You may not see a point, but others will. There are a lot of wealthy people in this world.

[Karps TA]

Wealthy people ain't buying Fords.

Wealthy people don't even accept Fords as rentals.

If you've got that kind of money you can buy a CTSV for $15K more and have much more car.

The G8 struggled to sell 11,000 units combined in 08 with lots of advertising, and very heavy incentives.

I'm not even ripping on the car so much as the timing and the price.

[johnny--2k]

Actually, most millionairs drive F-150's.....

Top that off with the fact that there are ALREADY incentives on the car, I have no clue where you get the idea of dealer markup premiums. It's not a limited run car, if a dealer tries to sell one over sticker, you'd be an idiot for even considering it. Chances are they will be selling at or below sticker in almost all cases....

Anyways, see my new thread for a review of the test drive....

[SSLEVO]

Wealthy people ain't buying Fords.

Wealthy people don't even accept Fords as rentals.

If you've got that kind of money you can buy a CTSV for $15K more and have much more car.

The G8 struggled to sell 11,000 units combined in 08 with lots of advertising, and very heavy incentives.

I'm not even ripping on the car so much as the timing and the price.

Thats my main point i was tring to make about the car, everyone just went ape sht over the evo coment, i'm done with that.

I just don't think a 40k taurus will sell, like i said earlier its all in the name.

[Karps TA]

Don't get me wrong I hope they sell like crazy. I want nothing but for Ford to succeed. But I was floored when the G8 starting under $30K was not moving at all off lots. So it's going to shock me if the SHO sells like mad.

If anything I can see a surge like the Camaro, that the enthusiasts and longtime SHO owners run to it.

[07ROUSHSTG3]

it will not matter how the SHO sells. what more does it cost them to make an SHO model over a standard taurus? not much. they are the only manufacture in the position to cater to the "niche" market right now. did they need to come out with the SHO? no. are they going to sell tons of them? no. is it a cool car? YES!

you guys can argue all day long about the need for the car, or the market for the car, or the demographic looking at the car, but in the end, what is the point?!?! it is a neat concept that many have wanted to see for many years. just because it is expensive does not take away from the idea.

[07ROUSHSTG3]

and don't compare the return of the SHO to the camaro. chevy needed that. ford is doing the SHO for fun.

[Nick]

Wealthy people ain't buying Fords.

Wealthy people don't even accept Fords as rentals.

If you've got that kind of money you can buy a CTSV for $15K more and have much more car.

The G8 struggled to sell 11,000 units combined in 08 with lots of advertising, and very heavy incentives.

I'm not even ripping on the car so much as the timing and the price.

That is one of the most ignorant claims I have heard lately, that being next to a guy I know (but no longer associate with) who just claimed last week that "the only good thing to come out of Africa was slavery." Great job making a baseless and completely false accusation.

I know more multi-millionaires that drive and buy fords than you'd be willing to wager me on.

The G8 and the REST of GM failed for reasons outside of the scope of what you are looking through.

[STANMAN]

it will not matter how the SHO sells. what more does it cost them to make an SHO model over a standard taurus? not much. they are the only manufacture in the position to cater to the "niche" market right now. did they need to come out with the SHO? no. are they going to sell tons of them? no. is it a cool car? YES!

you guys can argue all day long about the need for the car, or the market for the car, or the demographic looking at the car, but in the end, what is the point?!?! it is a neat concept that many have wanted to see for many years. just because it is expensive does not take away from the idea.

Bingo. Remember that the SHO is just a trim level of a standard Taurus. A non SHO Taurus will start at 22K, and it's A LOT of car for that $$$$. The SHO was put in place because of the grass roots efforts of SHO fans that have clamoured for the car to be brought back for years. Kudo's to Ford for finding a way to give people what they want:thumbsup

[johnny--2k]

THANK YOU!!!!

That's what I'm talkin about. The standard Taurus has gone up a bit in price, starting around $25-26K now.

[michelle]

:banana

[STANMAN]

THANK YOU!!!!

That's what I'm talkin about. The standard Taurus has gone up a bit in price, starting around $25-26K now.

I thought it was SE 22K, SEL 27K, Limited 32K, and SHO 37K, or is the SE 27K, and it goes up from there? I remember thinking when I saw it "God, there are Cobalts that cost more than this".

[ricksws7]

I think you could compare it to the hyundai genisis v8. Same size,horsepower et times ect. If you compare the genesis it blows this car away in quality and performance. My 2cents on the taursus sho.

[johnny--2k]

Well, the SE will be very hard to come by as a retail piece. They will be mostly Fleet and Rentals. Most dealerships wont stock any, they will be SEL and up.

[jakedrew]

S.end H.elp O.ut


jk :)

looks like a nice car. I like taurus's. That is alot of $ though.

Hope it sells well. I would swing in and check one out up in my area when they come out.

(if it was up to me, this or a evo, a evo would be it. )



as far as modding this thing. How would ford take to that when you come in for warrenty work? ;) heck ford denied me warrenty work on my 04 exploder as i tried to hook up my code scanner that didnt work and disconnected the battery because i had a check engine light . Now throw a boost controller on this car, launch it hard a few times and see what happens. i bet you break something, they go back into the ecu and see how fast you were going and RPMS . time will tell, hope for the best.

BUT this isnt marketed as a "tuner" go out and race car, like said before it is more refined and the best of all worlds like fun, fast, comfortable, practical and quaility.