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Plum Crazy
04-15-2009, 01:42 PM
Seeing as we have a worst engine ever thread, i think this would be approprate.

My bid is for the AMC/Chrysler 4.0 I6- easy to work on, few problems, very common to see in great condition with 200,000 miles+

RCN4HIM
04-15-2009, 01:48 PM
I lean twords the Blue Oval myself in taste but no one can deny the 93 million produced and still in production by the aftermarket... SMALL BLOCK CHEVY!:shades

BeesTwinEG
04-15-2009, 01:53 PM
Best engines ever.
1. Honda/Acura D, B, H, K, etc.... any 4cylinders.
2. Cummins
3. Toyota 1.8 VVT-I.
4. GM 3800
thats my list for now.

SSLEVO
04-15-2009, 01:57 PM
My top 2 are the 4G63 and LSX. I don't think many people can argue that.

Prince Valiant
04-15-2009, 01:59 PM
chrysler 426 Hemi. Still the quickest and fastest engine ever. Lesser men faint when they open the hood and see one for the first time.

Voodoo Chick
04-15-2009, 01:59 PM
The engines in my cars.

xFullThrottlex
04-15-2009, 02:14 PM
i like small/big block chevys.

Exitspeed
04-15-2009, 02:35 PM
Nissan VQ Series and VR38DETT.

Both spectacular engines. The VQ was the only engine that has been on Wards top 10 list since it's debut. Unfortunately last year is somehow didn't make it on. No one knows why either.

DR.FORD
04-15-2009, 02:35 PM
Everyone has their opinions, and I have mine...


Briggs & Stratton!!

SmokinRAM114
04-15-2009, 02:39 PM
B series cummins :)

FourEyedFord
04-15-2009, 02:40 PM
Any of the Windsor series small block fords. I'm partial to the 351w myself. :D

FourEyedFord
04-15-2009, 02:45 PM
Lesser men faint when they open the hood and see one for the first time.

Wow, Mopar guys really do act just like they do in the "That thing got a Hemi" commercials. :rolf

88Nightmare
04-15-2009, 02:50 PM
easily the small block chevy and the newer generations of the SBC also known as the LSx. Most versatile engine. Reliable. Used in so many applications. The LSx engine can be found in trucks, SUV's, camaros, corvettes, GTO's from the factory. And its also a pretty desirable engine to use in an engine swap. Someone on here used one in an S10. Many people use them in RX7's and I think I've seen it done in a 240sx. I've even seen the old school SBC swapped into older fords and dodges. Many SBC's are used in ameture stock car racing, Late Models, Modifieds, and other similar classes. Stock, a 350SBC does NOT compare to the 426 hemi that chris mentioned as far as power, but when it comes to ease of modification, availability of parts, versatility, and a motor thats most commonly used for drivetrain transplants, I'd say the SBC and LSx engines are the greatest ever.

Exitspeed
04-15-2009, 02:56 PM
^
I agree on the LSx engines. And yeah you've seen them in 240's. It's actually becoming a popular swap. Supposedly the wiring is easier to do then an SR.

Windsors 03 Cobra
04-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Really there is no best but I would say any big or small block V8 from Ford, Chevy or Chrysler are prit near the best, the best is modeled after them anyway.

Six cylinders and hot fours ? Meh, Keep em.

Adamsy87
04-15-2009, 03:16 PM
Any of the Windsor series small block fords. I'm partial to the 351w myself. :D

I'm with him...:thumbsup

DRK
04-15-2009, 03:24 PM
Ford Cosworth DFVs

wrath
04-15-2009, 03:27 PM
Smallblock Chevy, by far. Just because parts are cheap and there are so many. You can even use some parts on 4.3L V6, 3.4L V6, et cetera.

Next would be the 300 I6 Ford. Not a powerhouse or a fuel miser, but it goes forever.

Next would be the 302 OHV V8 Ford.

BAD LS1
04-15-2009, 03:31 PM
Anything with pushrods = best engine evar.

Al
04-15-2009, 03:51 PM
...4G63... I don't think many people can argue that.

I thought reliability was part of the equation.

STANMAN
04-15-2009, 03:53 PM
The 4.0 inline 6 in Jeeps, as someone else stated earlier they go forever and never have problems. Same with the 300 I6 Ford, although they are not near as common as their Jeep counterpart.


And then there's the Mopar 340. The only other motor to come blueprinted and balanced from the factory besides it's big 426 cousin. Love the motor, could beat any 383 big block car without a problem:thumbsup

ThatWhiteCivic
04-15-2009, 04:00 PM
1. SBC
2. BBC
3. Any 90's Honda motor

Moparjim
04-15-2009, 04:20 PM
chrysler 426 Hemi. Still the quickest and fastest engine ever. Lesser men faint when they open the hood and see one for the first time.

I concur.

DR.FORD
04-15-2009, 04:42 PM
chrysler 426 Hemi. Still the quickest and fastest engine ever. Lesser men faint when they open the hood and see one for the first time.


I concur.

Yeah, thats true I suppose in terms of design. If you ever worked on them stock, you would realize most were oil-burning, noise making stones!! BTW this is from me AND my Mopar fanatic friend John who worked as a Chrysler Tech at Mayfair in 1972 to 1978.
I thought the only guys that fainted seeing one was the guy that had to pull the heads!!:rolf

BOSS LX
04-15-2009, 04:43 PM
SBF, BBF, 300six, Flat head, FE, do you see a pattern?:rolf

I guess I will throw in the Lsx motor in there, since GM totally copied Ford.:rolf

Prince Valiant
04-15-2009, 04:48 PM
I guess I will throw in the Lsx motor in there, since GM totally copied Ford.:rolf
Well, now that's an statement I've never seen about the LS engines...in what way did they copy a ford?

BOSS LX
04-15-2009, 04:56 PM
Well, now that's an statement I've never seen about the LS engines...in what way did they copy a ford?

Bore spacing, head bolt pattern, and deck height is almost identical to a sbf.

It was more of a joke, but a LSX motor has way more in common with a sbf, then a sbc.

Besides a custom ground cam, I have heard that LSX heads are almost a direct bolt on to a sbf. :wooo

TheRX7Project
04-15-2009, 05:09 PM
No slant 6 love? Christ... I was on the freeway when mine overheated. We sprayed it down with a water hose to cool it off, filled the radiator back up with water, and kept rolling. I know of people who siezed them, then simply put a little oil in the plug holes, broke the engine free with a breaker bar, and drove the damn things. They ARE indestructable.

The Chrysler 2.2L was a damn good motor too. I had one, and it overheated daily because the fan belt kept blowing. Still ran. I ran it out of oil and it siezed. I let the car sit for a half hour and it fired right up, and I drove it home WITH NO OIL.

Aircooled VW's are solid too, my first car was an old VW that sat in a field for 13 years... we put oil in it and fired it up. I also overheated it on the freeway when the fan belt blew, and drove it for god-knows-how-long with no cooling... it got so hot it baked the coating off the exhaust... and then we had it towed home. I threw a fan belt on it, and kept driving it for another year and a half.

Prince Valiant
04-15-2009, 05:18 PM
Bore spacing, head bolt pattern, and deck height is almost identical to a sbf.

It was more of a joke, but a LSX motor has way more in common with a sbf, then a sbc.

Besides a custom ground cam, I have heard that LSX heads are almost a direct bolt on to a sbf. :woooAh...but aren't all the bore spacing for the small block ford, mopars, and chevy gen 1's all 4.4 inches? Also the LS engines have more in common terms of port shape with mopars than they do with the ford small block, as well, valve angles improved from the 23 degree of the SBC 15 degrees for the LS, again, giving it more similarities to the mopar 18 degree heads than the ford 20 degree heads. As far as deck heights, the 351 is far closer to the mopar than the LS is to either...and bolting an LS head to either I'm not sure is the most impossible...but then custom intakes will of course be needed, and then you've got to solve the coolant flow question (they go opposite ways, and lining up coolant passages).

But, yeah, I get the joke :D

SMOKDU
04-15-2009, 05:43 PM
4.9L inline six cyl ford truck motor it had great torgue and hp. more torque than the 302 and only like 15 hp less. they lasted a long time. theyt should have never dropped it.

DynoTom
04-15-2009, 07:05 PM
Best Avar ! Ford 429 - 460 !!!!!!:headbang:headbang:headbang

Yeehaw
04-15-2009, 08:42 PM
cummmins 12 valve hands down

Rocket Power
04-15-2009, 10:11 PM
260 Olds, can't make enough power to hurt itself:rolf

awsomeears
04-15-2009, 10:36 PM
305 sbc

70challenger452
04-15-2009, 11:01 PM
In terms of reliability and ability to take large amounts of pounding, nothing touches the cummins. I'll also do believe the 3.9/5.2 magnum deserves some recognition, I know a guy that's got over 300,000 on his 5.2 and it doesn't make a sound. The guy has also done maybe 20 oil changes within the entire life of the truck.

SSLEVO
04-15-2009, 11:08 PM
I thought reliability was part of the equation.

I think they are pretty reliable when they are maintained properly, i don't know of many 4 cylinders that can make 500 hp on a bone stock long block. Sure they had issues with crank walk in the late 90's but they fixed that.

Flicktitty
04-15-2009, 11:11 PM
2JZ-GTE (1993-1998 Toyota Supra, Toyota Aristo, etc)

WhatsADSM
04-15-2009, 11:31 PM
I think they are pretty reliable when they are maintained properly, i don't know of many 4 cylinders that can make 500 hp on a bone stock long block. Sure they had issues with crank walk in the late 90's but they fixed that.

Yea actually the 4g63 itself was fairly reliable, just the rest of the driveline had its issues.

Other 4 cylinders that can do 500 on the stock longblock (and this is off the top of my head) are the SR20DET and A853.

Plum Crazy
04-15-2009, 11:32 PM
anything with VTAK YO!!!!!


the new hemis have been pretty reliable.

lordairgtar
04-15-2009, 11:57 PM
The old Buick 350 was a good engine. Very strong and reliable. I had the older 300 cid aluminum Buick and it was pretty good.

DR.FORD
04-16-2009, 08:26 AM
Bore spacing, head bolt pattern, and deck height is almost identical to a sbf.

It was more of a joke, but a LSX motor has way more in common with a sbf, then a sbc.

Besides a custom ground cam, I have heard that LSX heads are almost a direct bolt on to a sbf. :wooo

Morris has put sbf heads on that block!!:wooo

deuceWI
04-16-2009, 09:38 AM
The Honda Fireblade motors. Strong, smooth, reliable.

STANMAN
04-16-2009, 09:39 AM
305 sbc

Did you forget something on the end of that, like a :rolf????? I can count on 1 hand and have fingers left over the number of them I have heard that DIDN'T have lifter tick.

Go Speed
04-16-2009, 09:54 AM
My vote is for the BMW M30 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M30) and M20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M20). Probably not very popular here, but VERY common to see over 300k with no more than regular maintenance.

I've had 3 of them with 290 (before the car fell apart), 475 before i slipped timing and i have a 'low' mileage one in my driveway with about 190k (that needs a coil.

BigSnailBuick
04-16-2009, 01:10 PM
LC2 3.8l Buick....hell the 3.8 buick motors all around

88Nightmare
04-16-2009, 03:06 PM
maybe if they can hold headgaskets in em. They are definitely cool motors, but definitely not up to snuff reliability wise. Modifications are pretty pricey on those too

GTSLOW
04-16-2009, 03:20 PM
3 Cylinder Metro Motors!!!

GTSLOW
04-16-2009, 03:40 PM
1-liter of death!

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/6/1/8/7/5/1/webimg/132317502_tp.jpg

55mpg in 1989

Prince Valiant
04-16-2009, 03:44 PM
1-liter of death!

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/6/1/8/7/5/1/webimg/132317502_tp.jpg

55mpg in 1989pfft. ain't got nothing on my three-banger.

T-Bag
04-16-2009, 05:00 PM
5.9 Cummins hands down

There's a reason its been used in so many applications (construction equipment, light, medium and heavy duty trucks, generators, school buses, etc.)

HY35F2T
04-16-2009, 05:07 PM
Smallblock Chevy, by far. Just because parts are cheap and there are so many. You can even use some parts on 4.3L V6, 3.4L V6, et cetera.

Next would be the 300 I6 Ford. Not a powerhouse or a fuel miser, but it goes forever.

Next would be the 302 OHV V8 Ford.


have to agree on the I6 seeing as my dads truck went 245k miles b4 the headgasket went and it was a oem.I still drive it for a month with a blown headgasket lol.:alcoholic

Cjburn
04-16-2009, 06:53 PM
Any of the old iron block Toyota 4cylinders. 20R, 22R, 4A, 3T, or 3S's have all sorts of power production capabilities (be it NA or turbo) and only Honda can approach their reliability.

nismodave
04-16-2009, 06:54 PM
The 350 cubic inch Small Block Chevrolet has won more races than any other motor in history.

End thread/

Voodoo Chick
04-16-2009, 07:23 PM
350's are just so versatile, too....and as mentioned, very affordable to build up. I love them because once you have one just the way you want it, it will run through an apocalypse with just some decent maintenance. I love them, love them, love them!!!! :banana1:

lotsals1
04-16-2009, 09:32 PM
When I was younger 340 magnum 69/70 then chevy 302 now LSX
These are all based off power to C.I. weight / reliability. 426 max wedge also a stout motor for its era AFX cars were the shizit

hrsp
04-16-2009, 11:52 PM
most reliable engine ive ever had was a toyota 22re 4 banger...WOW

-stew-
04-17-2009, 09:38 AM
I'm gonna have to say this thread is full of fail. Every fanboy on the board is chiming in; "I think blah blah enjuns are gud." All these " I knew a guy, who's cousin drove around a SBC for 197,000 miles with only one cylinder head on the motor." are lame and hardly scientific.

lordairgtar
04-17-2009, 07:16 PM
So what, in your most esteemed vastly superior knowledge, is the most reliable engine? And please state the data and scientific testing you used.

HP ADDICT
04-20-2009, 09:21 PM
N54 ftmfw

nitrous
04-20-2009, 10:43 PM
4.0L Straight 6