Metal Bands?

[Lash]

Do you consider groups like Poison, Skid Row, Motley Crue, Twisted sister, Kiss, and so on... to be 'Metal Bands'?


I was watching VH1'S "Top 10 Metal Bands" and when Poison, Motley Crew, and Kiss came in @ 10, 9, & 8 I though to myself "WTF" and quickly switched the channel. I think calling bands along those lines metal bands is a pretty far stretch. Hard Rock band or Hair Band sure....but Heavy Metal???? :chair:

[Voodoo Chick]

"Back in the day" we always called it "Hair Metal."

[SSDude]

At the time they came out they were referred to as "Metal" later to be referred to as Hair/ Hair metal

[Reverend Cooper]

back then metal was metallica,megadeth,slayer,testament,ozzy,anthrax.
thats just hair bands

[Lash]

back then metal was metallica,megadeth,slayer,testament,ozzy,anthrax.


Thats exactly what I think.

[Voodoo Chick]

Then there were the weird, grey area bands that didn't fit anywhere......like WASP, too heavy/crude to be "hair metal," and King Diamond/Mercyful Fate, Accept, etc......Damn, I love those bands........I SOOO miss the 80's........

[Deggy]

Me being one of the younger guys on here...

What is considered "metal" now are bands like:

Bring Me The Horizon
After The Burial
August Burns Red
As I Lay Dying
A Day To Remember
Heaven Shall Burn
Sea Of Treachery

Those are what my age range consider metal.

All of those bands have myspace pages..check them out..

[Yooformula]

back then metal was metallica,megadeth,slayer,testament,ozzy,anthrax.
thats just hair bands

thats how I remember it from back then. the rest were hair bands and those listening to hair bands all drove either metoomustangs or the infamous Iroach.

[Voodoo Chick]

I hated the "bubblegum pop-metal," like Poison, Firehouse, Trixter.......that stuff just made me gag. I always gravitated to the "swords and sorcery" metal, like Dio, King Diamond, Iron Maiden, Yngwie Malmsteen.....Anything that had a feel of the arcane to it. I played bass guitar with a death metal band years back, and some of the sh*t that went on in those days......ah, memories, lol.........;)

[TURTLE]

and that brings me to slayer... ;)

[DRK]

Do you consider groups like Poison, Skid Row, Motley Crue, Twisted sister, Kiss, and so on... to be 'Metal Bands'?



FUK NO! it's cock rock

[DRK]

and that brings me to slayer... ;)

Best band of all time :devil

[SSDude]

Good stuff
Heavy metal story: breaking the boundaries of speed and sound (http://www.syl.com/travel/heavymetalstorybreakingtheboundariesofspeedandsoun d.html)


The first heavy metal bands, such as 'Accept', 'Dio', 'Iron Maiden', 'Manowar' and 'Metallica' originated in the early 80s. Many of them are already classics, some are still making music and releasing successful albums. The early 80s were the period of classic metal notable for classical music influence and anthemic choruses and characterized by the bands like 'Accept' and 'Iron Maiden'.


During the 80s period new subgenres went emerging, including black metal, death metal, thrash metal, and others. Many bands embarked on a heavier sound and even further increase in tempo. Among the experimenters was the San Francisco quartet 'Metallica'. Today they are considered the pioneers of thrash metal and one of the most innovative metal bands ever.



Since the release of their debut album 'Kill 'Em All' in 1983, 'Metallica' were head and shoulders above all pretenders to the throne of thrash metal selling more than 200 million albums. Their album 'Metallica' released in 1991 became the best-selling metal album having sold over 8 million copies in the US and 7 million in other countries.

[Yellow2k1vette]

Their album 'Metallica' released in 1991 became the best-selling metal album having sold over 8 million copies in the US and 7 million in other countries.That album was the demise of Metallica, nothing metal about it.

It was a pop album.

[wikked]

And it sounds like shit :P - saw BMtH with Thursday the other week, and it was just gutteral throaty screaming, couldn't understand a word he was saying.
Those are more death/black metal, than metal, I think.

The 2nd wave of metal after the 80's, were bands like the deftones, KoRn, coal chamber, sevendust, chevelle, reveille, kittie, godsmack, slipknot, disturbed, etc.

Nowadays, i'd say the "emo" bands are closer to metal than anything else, like Senses Fail, The Used, Alexisonfire, Thrice, Underøath, Avenged Sevenfold, Finch, Silverstein, My Chemical Romance, Emanuel, Chiodos, etc.

2¢



Me being one of the younger guys on here...

What is considered "metal" now are bands like:

Bring Me The Horizon
After The Burial
August Burns Red
As I Lay Dying
A Day To Remember
Heaven Shall Burn
Sea Of Treachery

Those are what my age range consider metal.

All of those bands have myspace pages..check them out..

[Rocket Power]

Could be worse. I remember Bon Jovi being called metal:rolf

[Voodoo Chick]

Bon Jovi was just.......bleh.... remember that fingernails-on-a-chalkboard falsetto part in "Runaway?" *shudder*

[Rocket Power]

Me being one of the younger guys on here...

What is considered "metal" now are bands like:

Bring Me The Horizon
After The Burial
August Burns Red
As I Lay Dying
A Day To Remember
Heaven Shall Burn
Sea Of Treachery

Those are what my age range consider metal.

All of those bands have myspace pages..check them out..
Never heard of any of those :rolf

It was slayer,maiden, testament, anthrax, Metallica(pre black album:goof) ,etc. back in my 80's days throw in some Pantera for "newer" stuff

[Voodoo Chick]

I mean....don't get me wrong, I do still love "hair metal," but I don't even consider Poison, Bon Jovi, etc. to be that......they are bubblegum pop rock.....

[Deggy]

I enjoy the music I listen to. Most people wouldn't on here, and I wouldn't expect you guys to. Yeah a lot of the time its hard to understand what they are saying, most of the time I can make out most of it. I have looked up lyrics before, but I love the "new" metal.

[SSDude]

And it sounds like shit :P - saw BMtH with Thursday the other week, and it was just gutteral throaty screaming, couldn't understand a word he was saying.


Whats BMtH?

[Deggy]

One of the bands I listed.

BMtH = Bring Me The Horizon

[Reverend Cooper]

seasons of the abyss,salyer best evar!!!!!!!!!!

[DRK]

New real metal is shit like OTEP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qec8gmj12xg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D79peD6i-rw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfLnDUPmP4s&feature=related

[InvisibleCobra]

thats how I remember it from back then. the rest were hair bands and those listening to hair bands all drove either metoomustangs or the infamous Iroach.
HAHAH
I- ITALIAN
R-RETARD
O-ON
C-CRACK:headbang:headbang..Do even be offended, I am Italian!!

[Voodoo Chick]

Hey......I want an IROC! I am part Sicilian......so I guess it's genetic....I have an '89 RS, too, lol......I used to love it when 102.9 had "the house of hair" on Saturday nights, I'd listen to it in my Camaro........it was cool. :)

[Myles]

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thats metal.

[Deggy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPplFJXXzeg

August Burns Red

[Deggy]

I also listen to Hardcore too..

Like the band Terror, one of LA's biggest hardcore bands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcr4_xeQrAI

[brotherbenn83]

What VH1 calls metal was properly termed GLAM (Gay Los Angeles Metal) by Dave Mustaine of Megadeth, and original Metallica member. That shit all sucks, and Metallica sucks. All the best music comes from overseas, see below.



DARK TRANQUILLITY (Sweden):
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DAGOBA (France):
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BEHEMOTH (Poland):
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DISARMONIA MUNDI (Italy):
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SUSPERIA (Norway):
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/THREAD

[Deggy]

DEGOBA is the shit!


BMtH is from over seas too.... They are from the UK.

And so is Bullet For My Valentine.

[brotherbenn83]

so is anathema, and SiKth

[badass88gt]

I think part of the problem is people immediately combine "hair metal" with "heavy metal". I'm a big fan of all of it, the hair bands, the old school 80s metal, etc. I dont think the hair bands should even be called hair "metal", but thats the way it goes I guess. I'm still a huge fan of all of it because I was around when it was happening the first time.

[Deggy]

Whitechapel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOuMJjXdCk

Job For a Cowboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeZIfbPKzGE

[Trutildeathxxx]

Whitechapel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOuMJjXdCk

Job For a Cowboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeZIfbPKzGE

job for a cowboy, fuck yea, i completely forgot that band existed. i grew up when the milwaukee metal / metal core scene was in its prime, bands like end this day, wings of scarlet, forever is forgotten, amora savant, now a murderer, and fordirelifesake define metal for me. i will never forget some of these shows in bayview basements and shorewood legion hall> and on the national stage you have to look into earth crisis, bane, and shai hulud

http://www.myspace.com/wingsofscarlet
www.myspace.com/amorasavant
http://www.myspace.com/endthisdai
www.myspace.com/fordirelifesake
http://www.myspace.com/foreverisforgotten
http://www.myspace.com/nowamurderer

[Deggy]

blessthefall (with there old singer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXKhY7AcEfo

A Day To Remember
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CY4FN8BVk

Every Time I Die
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ub--XlDBg

Heaven Shall Burn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTkZt8r2lko

Parkway Drive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tptChkpxMoQ

Emmure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji-Gac_na60

[Goat Roper]

That album was the demise of Metallica, nothing metal about it.

It was a pop album.

x a bunch

[Goat Roper]

Lets not forget how metal is broken down these days between metalcore, thrash, speed, etc, etc

[Deggy]

Through The Eyes Of The Dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP-jYCES0wE

Misery Signals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqRkYBTCv3Y

[Deggy]

Lets not forget how metal is broken down these days between metalcore, thrash, speed, etc, etc

There are so many breakdowns down.

Metalcore (Metal/Hardcore) which most metal and hardcore bands both consist of.

Grindcore/Thrash

Speedmetal

and way way more.

[Got Boost]

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thats metal.Kind of sound like Trivium

[Got Boost]

I like alot of Euro Metal bands .. But not too much on the growling side ...Primal Fear , Labyrinth,Nightwish (Kind of like heavy metal opera) Sonata Artica ,,Overkill from the US is one of my favs ....

[HITMAN]

I I always gravitated to the "swords and sorcery" metal

You would be a big fan of Manowar and Savatage then. :thumbsup

[Voodoo Chick]

You would be a big fan of Manowar and Savatage then. :thumbsup


I love them!! Both excellent bands.....there's just something about that type of metal, it really is awesome, like the soundtrack to go with Frank Frazetta artwork, if that makes any sense......

[HITMAN]

The first heavy metal bands, such as 'Accept', 'Dio', 'Iron Maiden', 'Manowar' and 'Metallica' originated in the early 80s.

What a load of shit. Who ever wrote that article is an idiot. I guess the fact that Black Sabbath was writing heavier stuff than any of those bands listed back in the early 70's doesn't count? Sabbath released their self titled album in 1970. After being told about the band by a friend in junior high, I bought my first Sabbath 8-track (yeah, that's right 8-track :flipoff2:) Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath in 1974. That was Sabbath's 5th album. Early 80's indeed...:durr

[HITMAN]

I love them!! Both excellent bands.....there's just something about that type of metal, it really is awesome, like the soundtrack to go with Frank Frazetta artwork, if that makes any sense......

Oh, I know EXACTLY what you mean. :headbang
I used to hang out at a place called the Moon Fun Shop at Southgate Mall and stare at the posters of those half-nekid warrior chicks while checking out the magic tricks and the "Smoker's paraphernalia";) I really miss those days and that store...:shades

[Waver]

Listen to jjo.....they have the most "new metal" out there for radio stations.....the hog is deacent, however they play a lot of hair metal....and indipendant radio 102.1.....they are waiting for the return of grunge and alternative.

Hell I am surprised no one mentioned anything about TOOL

[Voodoo Chick]

Oh, I know EXACTLY what you mean. :headbang
I used to hang out at a place called the Moon Fun Shop at Southgate Mall and stare at the posters of those half-nekid warrior chicks while checking out the magic tricks and the "Smoker's paraphernalia";) I really miss those days and that store...:shades

I remember a few shops like that.......sad that they are all gone. Seems like all the really good stuff, music, shops, everything, are all gone and over. I remember when I was really young, me and my friends listening to that music, and at the time, we really believed maybe it was about some ancient, magical prophecy, that the bands that performed it really knew something arcane........it was fun to be that innocent, and those times were great.

[lordairgtar]

My nephew Allen used to play drums for this band.
His favorite experience was playing in Romania in Vlad Tepid's castle.
http://www.rictusgrin.com/home.html
Bands like Kiss, Slayer, and others of that ilk are pop-metal, metal for the mainstream. The heavier stuff we all know about; death, gore, etc. I like some of it, but I think the guttural throat screaming is getting to be very over done. Aside from that, some of the stuff coming out of Norway and other Scandinavian countries is pretty intense. The term Heavy Metal originated in an Iron Butterfly song about heading out in fast cars looking for adventure, Born To Be Wild. It really wasn't about bikes. That was because it was featured in that biker flick, Easy Rider.

[Voodoo Chick]

Wasn't that song "Born to be Wild" by Steppenwolf????

[HITMAN]

Wasn't that song "Born to be Wild" by Steppenwolf????

Was just thinking the same thing...

The only thing I remember the one-hit-wonder Iron Butterfly for was Innagoddadavita.

[Plum Crazy]

I cant believe no one on here mentioned Five Finger Death Punch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5S9xJBO9uo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p153N_rBC8

[Waver]

I cant believe no one on here mentioned Five Finger Death Punch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5S9xJBO9uo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p153N_rBC8

i have 94.1 wjjo ftw

[Plum Crazy]

i have 94.1 wjjo ftw


95.1 wiil rock down here in the Raytown!

[Deggy]

Saw FFDP at summerfest, awesome.

[Goat Roper]

Saw FFDP at summerfest, awesome.

Seen them twice. My son's first concert was FFDP last fall, so yeah, a bit of a fan here :thumbsup

[Deggy]

Seen them twice. My son's first concert was FFDP last fall, so yeah, a bit of a fan here :thumbsup

Let rock to some FFDP in the mini van next time. If I ever get a ride from you to a car show again.

[brotherbenn83]

Took my wife, and her parents to FFDP at S.Fest. They hated it. I also saw them in Madison in 2007. Great band comprised of some former Motograter members. Ivan (lead singer) Moody's other band Ghost Machine is also quite cool but much more rock/electronic than metal.

[Goat Roper]

Yeah, don't know if AAI would take my wife's parents to FFDP, the wife would go though.

[lordairgtar]

Wasn't that song "Born to be Wild" by Steppenwolf????
Sorry, old farts disease. It was Steppenwolf.

[Voodoo Chick]

Sorry, old farts disease. It was Steppenwolf.


Awww, no worries.....I'm only in my 30's, and there's days I walk into a room, stop, and realize I have already forgotten what I came in there for in the first place!! :rolf

[brotherbenn83]

Awww, no worries.....I'm only in my 30's, and there's days I walk into a room, stop, and realize I have already forgotten what I came in there for in the first place!! :rolf

Your medication?

[Voodoo Chick]

Your medication?


No medication.....just WAY too much stress in my life right now.

[brotherbenn83]

Then relax with this, you'll thank me later:thumbsup

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[Voodoo Chick]

^^ Wasn't fond of the video, but the song itself was pretty cool.

[lordairgtar]

No medication.....just WAY too much stress in my life right now.
I tested a lot of recreational pharmaceuticals in the day (70s). Ooops, there goes my chance at political office.:wow

[Karps TA]

There's only 1 metal band worth a damn anymore. And that's Steel Panther.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5tl2_K-d-g

[Voodoo Chick]

I tested a lot of recreational pharmaceuticals in the day (70s). Ooops, there goes my chance at political office.:wow


I "tested" quite a few pharmaceuticals myself.......it's ok, we can start our very own political office, lol!!

[STANMAN]

GWAR /thread.

[brotherbenn83]

There's only 1 metal band worth a damn anymore. And that's Steel Panther.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5tl2_K-d-g

That was the GAYEST EVER!!!!

Here is the thread ender!

"I know I just rhymed verse with verse, that's becuz I'm so metal Bitch where's your fuckin purse?"

chiVMrWMHko

[Deggy]

Bringing it back from the dead I guess, but I was shown this band last night. They been around forever, and have had a bunch of vocalists but the original vocalist still writes the lyrics. Pretty intense song and video.

Shai Hulud
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M4WGc9qSto

[xxsn0blindxx]

The issue here is that Metal is a very broad genre of music as you can tell by the bands already listed in this thread. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenres) lists 19 different genres plus an additional 11 cross-genres of metal. Chances are pretty good no one person will like all of the genres, but who's to say one is true metal versus another. Although I will say that glam shit from 80's was just super gay cock rock.

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[MurphysLaw88GT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqF49e_3PMU&playnext_from=TL&videos=nDDskpk2NSA

[JRink]

:thumbsup
I still listen to all that stuff constantly. King Diamond (who I met on two occasions! ... and I walked around with a giant upside-down cross on my jean-jacket for years, lol), Maiden, Anthrax, Megadeth, Dio, etc.

Nowadays I listen to a ton of progressive metal. Royal Hunt, Shadow Gallery, Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Serenity, and tons more.

There's still some good sh** out there being recorded.

JRink



I hated the "bubblegum pop-metal," like Poison, Firehouse, Trixter.......that stuff just made me gag. I always gravitated to the "swords and sorcery" metal, like Dio, King Diamond, Iron Maiden, Yngwie Malmsteen.....Anything that had a feel of the arcane to it. I played bass guitar with a death metal band years back, and some of the sh*t that went on in those days......ah, memories, lol.........;)

[BR3W CITY]

Ya, alot of things some may lump into the "metal" category are VERY different. I think that a lot of bands are really more "hard rock" than the spirit of metal. Metal to me has to be the hardest/heaviest thing you can find, regaurdless of sub-genre. Back then, metal was Sabbath/Ozzy, Motorhead etc. Today I think its bands more like BFMV, As I Lay dying and some of the like. I will be honest that I haven't followed any "underground" music in a year or so, not sure whats changed

[97z2801ss]

Im in that second wave of metal: deftones, Dope, Slipknot, static X, mudvayne ect ect.... I used to be hard core into it then thier just started becomming to many bands all sounding the same. Dont get me wrong, I love a respect all music, I a listen to everything...