Which tire? MTs or KDWs?

[MoCkiN U]

Saying that price isnt the issue here I am stuck on which tire set to put on my car for the summer. Im in bad bad need of rear tires so those are getting replaced. I can run 295/35/18 BFG KDWs with the flame pattern and a 265 up front.
I am also looking at Mickey Thompsons 305/35/18s for the rear only. I like everything about the MTs but the car will only be on the street and I'll be driving this car a TON so mileage on the tires are an issue and I dont know if MTs can hold up for me. I have a couple travel shows on the schedule and 1 trip to the Carolinas going too

Got any suggestions guys/girls?

[letsrunem]

I would definitely stay away from MTs if you're concerned about mileage. Considering any other DR? I'd go with a more street oriented one, BFG over Nitto.

[-stew-]

If you are running 17's up front I can put you into a pair of 245/45/ZR17 Nitto NT555's that have never touched the ground. I bought the wrong size online.

[BigSnailBuick]

My Et streets held up for a long time being on a DD... Rain sucked though :)

[letsrunem]

My Et streets held up for a long time being on a DD... Rain sucked though :)

I only got 2500 miles out of mine but I had 400whp and a lead foot. About 5 trips to the track too.

[Breecher_7]

Nitto NT05's

[That_Guy]

kdw's are very nice tires. i know cobalt sstuner has them. i have nitto's on my car i also like them

[wrath]

What about the standby Nitto 555Rs or NT01s?

[That_Guy]

nitto's are a cheaper and a bit harder. but the kdw's are a better tire but for the price the nitto's are a good option

[xxtremeteam]

I just got these for my mustang Im sure they make them in the size you need
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Sumitomo&tireModel=HTR+Z&partnum=45WR6HTRZ&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=1

[Inspector13]

I had a set of BFG KDWs on 16x7 rims and didn't like them. They felt greasy. I wouldn't get traction till well into 2ed NA, and not till the top of 3ed with the nitrous.

[MoCkiN U]

DAMN!! THats crazy there Justin. Now I'm lost. Nittos are a option for sure but I have 18s all around so the 17" offer wouldnt work. Gosh, now I gotta see what I want. I hate research.....just wanna do it

I am in the process of finally putting money into my car this year so I'm finally getting to finish what I started. My bottles are at the paint shop now, I order the last pieces of the nitrous install from Mike Post on Friday and I am getting some gauges from Breecher. I have HIDs for the whole front on their way so I'll be ready by early summer time for sure

[STANMAN]

I have the Nitto 555's, I won't buy them again. They aren't sticky until they are WELLLLLLLLLL heated (they do wear very well though). The BFG's are a great compromise between the Nitto's and what I am buying this year, as they finally have it in my size, the M/T's, which will give you the best traction, but obviously the least amount of life. Choices, choices.

[Breecher_7]

The NT01's are a great tire but they will not last long on the street. I wouldnt expect more then 5K miles of spirited driving with them. Josh's set are more then half gone with less then 2K on them. And dont get caught in the rain with them.....

[Flicktitty]

i like the BFG KDW's alot, Liz has them on her 240sx.... so odviously power doesn't come into play on that.

If you WANT your car to hook go drag radial,but they won't last a long time. Have you looked into the BFG G-Force T/a Drag radials? there a good tread design and my buddy ran them on a 700WHP supra and they hooked pretty decent.

[STANMAN]

The NT01's are a great tire but they will not last long on the street. I wouldnt expect more then 5K miles of spirited driving with them. Josh's set are more then half gone with less then 2K on them. And dont get caught in the rain with them.....

The NT01's are a road course tire, practically useless for the OP's application.



They are a great road course tire though, see them on A LOT of cars when teching up at RA, so if Mockin is looking for that type, the NT01's are a great tire.

[BAD LS1]

Dont ever expect much hook from an 18" DR... my .02 goes to the nitto 555R. They are shit when cold on typical street driving with something that makes some power. But if you arent affraid to nuke them they work ok and last about 5-10K depending on ur style. The M/T dr's i had didnt even last past the street tuning of the turbo 2 years ago, 500 miles and wiped clean and would wear like a bitch on the highway. BFG dr's i had on the monte were 18's they were ok but wore like a bitch too on the street.

Oh yeah and the nitto 555R's seem to squeal quite loud for me too... which is a bit annoying when trying to brake spool the turbo in 2nd gear on hwy 100 and they start howling next to someone your trying to get a big head of steam on.

[MoCkiN U]

I am putting nitrous on the car so I want something that will hook up and want something that will drive right but just not a fan of nittos at all from buddies cars. Guess the KDWs are my choice after all. The car wont see the strip probably at all. Its all street driving

[Beagle]

Dont ever expect much hook from an 18" DR... my .02 goes to the nitto 555R. They are shit when cold on typical street driving with something that makes some power. But if you arent affraid to nuke them they work ok and last about 5-10K depending on ur style. The M/T dr's i had didnt even last past the street tuning of the turbo 2 years ago, 500 miles and wiped clean and would wear like a bitch on the highway. BFG dr's i had on the monte were 18's they were ok but wore like a bitch too on the street.

Oh yeah and the nitto 555R's seem to squeal quite loud for me too... which is a bit annoying when trying to brake spool the turbo in 2nd gear on hwy 100 and they start howling next to someone your trying to get a big head of steam on.



Nitto 555's on my car lasted two years id say prolly 15 trips to the track so like 30 passes. They are actually not bad. Not sure why everyone talks shit about them. I could spray out of the hole on the street in my car on a 100 shot,3600 stall and i would hook almost as good as i would at the track. Mine never made any noise what so ever. The only time I wouldnt get traction was if i sprayed it at 50 mph with the same shot. The combination of the trans downshifting into 2nd and spraying was an instant loss of traction. Driving in rain was not bad either. Id buy them again. I ran many low 12 second passes with them. I got atleast 10k out of them id say with all the racing I did.

[Beagle]

I am putting nitrous on the car so I want something that will hook up and want something that will drive right but just not a fan of nittos at all from buddies cars. Guess the KDWs are my choice after all. The car wont see the strip probably at all. Its all street driving

Those tires would last about as long as et streets if your putting nitrous on the car. Might as well go with the sticky mickeys. :thumbsup

[BAD LS1]

Nitto 555's on my car lasted two years id say prolly 15 trips to the track so like 30 passes. They are actually not bad. Not sure why everyone talks shit about them. I could spray out of the hole on the street in my car on a 100 shot,3600 stall and i would hook almost as good as i would at the track. Mine never made any noise what so ever. The only time I wouldnt get traction was if i sprayed it at 50 mph with the same shot. The combination of the trans downshifting into 2nd and spraying was an instant loss of traction. Driving in rain was not bad either. Id buy them again. I ran many low 12 second passes with them. I got atleast 10k out of them id say with all the racing I did.


Yeah but you had the had the advantage of a 16" version with more sidewall yet and less than 400hp to the wheels on the gun and the automagic also kept them in check.

[STANMAN]

I am hoping the M/T's (even in the 305/35/18) are stickier than the Nittos were. I already know they won't last as long though:mad:

[Inspector13]

I'm getting a set of Sumitomo HTRZs, but they are 315's and also stepping down from 3:73s to 3:55s. I can't afford a set of Nitto 555Rs. I'm not gonna expect to spray out of the hole but I'm not worried about that. Not like I'm some hardcore drag racer/street racer. lol

[STANMAN]

I'm getting a set of Sumitomo HTRZs, but they are 315's and also stepping down from 3:73s to 3:55s. I can't afford a set of Nitto 555Rs. I'm not gonna expect to spray out of the hole but I'm not worried about that. Not like I'm some hardcore drag racer/street racer. lol

When I get my M/T's this spring my Nittos will still have tread, I can save them for you if you want.:thumbsup


Just don't drive them in the Dells during Automation, I got a ticket last year for them not having enough tread depth:punch:

[Inspector13]

Seriously those pricks gave you a ticket for THAT!!! :wooo


What size are they and how much??

[STANMAN]

Seriously those pricks gave you a ticket for THAT!!! :wooo


What size are they and how much??

305/35/18. Since I know ya, for you, all you have to do is pick them up.:thumbsup

[1320PNY]

Dear Kelley,

Dave (MSGTGT) has the KDWs and doesn't seem to be pleased. They have lots of road noise and still don't hook good off the line. They aren't the best wet and aren't good when it's cold out.

I have the Eagle F1 A/S and they work well for my 300 HP heavy car. I think Goodyear has come out with some F1 Supercar tires in various sizes. I believe that was what is on the GT500 or the Ford GT.

I would give those a shot because the wet weather performance and the wear rating is really good. I know I thrashed on mine all last season and I'll get two more seasons on them at least.

[MoCkiN U]

cool shawn! thx...

dave has some beastly power in that thing too tho doesnt he?

[70 cutlass 442]

Nittos suck for traction. Mts hook like a mofo, end of story

[1320PNY]

Yeah, Dave is at about 460 to the wheels at 6K RPM. I know his is a Centri - Novi 2200, so he's probably not building too much power down at the 2500 RPM his stall is set. I'm sure he's right around 300 from the bottom, but with NOS, you should be there too.

[Inspector13]

305/35/18. Since I know ya, for you, all you have to do is pick them up.:thumbsup




Thanks man!! That's an awesome deal. Unfortunately I am running 17x10.5 out back. :crying

[MoCkiN U]

Update......

I did get the mickeys. 305/35/18 and had them mounted today had it on jack stands waiting to get the rims back as both rear tires went flat on me at work and had to tow it home the other day so the mickeys coming in put me back on the road. Havent driven the car yet as the family had my attention today but tomorrow I am off and out for a drive and get some pics of the rear as that bitch is all filled up now back there. Just a hair too big too with the car dropped and the system back there they might rub? Might have to rolled the fenders in the rear but will be worth it in the end!

They look mean on there

[STANMAN]

Looking forward to hearing about them, can't wait to get mine!!!

[MoCkiN U]

well Im about to go out for the first drive after detailing the wheels which for me means taking them completey off the car and cleaning the backside too. gonna take the car out for a nice deep clean. Hopefully no tire rub (crosses fingers)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/ShoUrGlow/2642_1106676143038_1110825453_34894.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/ShoUrGlow/2642_1106676743053_1110825453_34894.jpg
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[PureSound15]

How wide of a rim do you have in the back?

[MoCkiN U]

10.5" rim out back.

There is about a 1/8" of rub on the fender lip. Just enough to make a black line like a marker drew it on the paint on the lip of the fender. hits on top of tire versus on the sidewall so I'm not really worried about it as it only hits if there is a dip when turning. Will roll it asap its just not bad enough to not drive or worry about damaging the tire

the streets are still cold as shit so hard to tell you what the stick factor is but just the 305 vs 275 is a incredible difference in overall grip but also in turns too you feel the rear planted a little safer. Im sure I could make it spin but today didnt need to try as when I took off it just planted nicely. Warm streets??? Oh man, will make me want more power....oh wait nitrous is almost done YAY

[STANMAN]

I just ordered the 305/45/18, I am hoping for no rub as well, but I needed to see if something with a bigger sidewall will hook better. I can always go back to the 305/35, as I know that fits!!!