So what does everyone think of the Genesis Coupe?

[WhatsADSM]

IMO the Genesis coupe is a big step in the right direction for the import world.

There is finally a low(er) cost RWD turbo solution again! And suprisingly enough it will be coming from Hyundai :wow

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-to-start-at-22-000/

Looks like it will come in either a 6 speed manual or a 5 speed at. And will have either the 2.0T or a 3.8L v6. The base manual 2.0T starts in at only 22k and makes I think 210 horse, while the 3.8L v6 starts at only 25k with a manual and makes 306 horse.

Honestly the most impressive part of the car you find when you read between the lines. Hyundai shares the "world engine" with chrysler/mitsu. So the 2.0l turbo in the Genesis coupe will almost surely share the block with the EVO X, the 4b11. Likely it will share the short or lockblock as well. Rumor has it the horsepower is just tuned down with some combination of a smaller turbo, cams, intercooler, and PCM tune of course. If this is true this means getting a RWD, 300+ whp, 30-mpg car should be cake walk, and for cheap!

IMO the "tuner-ready" R-spec 2.0l is going to be a great deal at a base of 23.7k. Its basically the standard Genesis coupe with the following big ticket items added:
19" rims with some decent Potenza's. Torsion LSD :headbang, Big brembo brakes.

Only down side I really found to the car is that it's curb weight even for the 2.0t is something like 3450. Which isn't exactly light, but then again not too bad.

Discuss
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[Flicktitty]

I like it....alot in fact....

i just can't get past the Hyundai name..

maybe once it is out i can have a better thought on it.

but as of now it's promising.

[T-Bag]

Saw a couple at the auto show, they didn't seem too bad. I couldn't rip parts of the dash off any of the Hyundais anymore

[floaters]

i don't like, usually when they make a 2 door version of a car, they try to make it look similar to the car? wasn't this car a tiburon like 3 years ago?? and imo they have been copying a 15 year old design

[nismodave]

Damn....Looks alot like a Silvia. Even the motor looks like a SR....The front is ugly(unlike a silvia), but love the sides and back.

[whitehatch]

i would seriously think about buying one

[That_Guy]

is that a plastic valve cover?

[xxtremeteam]

I think they had a yellow one on commercial durring the superbowl doing some drifting looks kinda cool I like it but the Hyundai name makes me lose a little intrest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiV0BK2591I&feature=channel

[Silver86]

i dig it.

[Prince Valiant]

Honestly the most impressive part of the car you find when you read between the lines. Hyundai shares the "world engine" with chrysler/mitsu. So the 2.0l turbo in the Genesis coupe will almost surely share the block with the EVO X, the 4b11. Likely it will share the short or lockblock as well.
lol...tell that to the some die-hard evoX guys, and they'll look to pistol-whip you.

Basically, how it works out with the 'world engines' is this:

Blocks are basically the same...minor differences occur due to each automaker making different cooling/oiling mods to the same basic block for different applications.

Cranks are similar-effectively the same b/w same displacements.

Rods/pistons, pretty similar...though different vendors are involved. Saw an EvoX rod juxtaposed with a Hyundai rod for, and the hyundai looked a little beefier.

Pistons again are different with the different makes...the SRT's use a piston for a 2.4, and use a special, high strength casting...while the 4b11 and hyundai use more traditional forgings.

Heads on all are pretty much the same...they'll use different valves with minor size variations.

Cams and valvetrain are fairly unique...as well as the variable valve timing systems used by each maker. Not sure if there is interhangeability on the cams.

Intake and exhaust manifolds are also unique b/w makers...again, suited to the needs of the vehicles they may find themselves in and what kind of packaging/powerband characteristics may suit the platforms the best.

Not sure what turbo the 2.0t will use though.



As to the car, I love it. Don't care that it's a Hyundai...they've come a LONG way since the late 80's and through the 90's. The style of the car is a blatant copy of the nicer/sportier G37 coupe, but who cares? It looks pretty decent! Long hood, short deck are always a good thing in my book. Though I will say I don't like the car in some colors (yellow/blue come to mind). Maybe a gunmetal grey/charcoal would look best?

I'd go for the 2.0 personally...better sound, and easy potential increases in performance. If I wanted an auto, I'd go with the 6.

[WhatsADSM]

lol...tell that to the some die-hard evoX guys, and they'll look to pistol-whip you.

Basically, how it works out with the 'world engines' is this:

Blocks are basically the same...minor differences occur due to each automaker making different cooling/oiling mods to the same basic block for different applications.

Cranks are similar-effectively the same b/w same displacements.

Rods/pistons, pretty similar...though different vendors are involved. Saw an EvoX rod juxtaposed with a Hyundai rod for, and the hyundai looked a little beefier.

Pistons again are different with the different makes...the SRT's use a piston for a 2.4, and use a special, high strength casting...while the 4b11 and hyundai use more traditional forgings.

Heads on all are pretty much the same...they'll use different valves with minor size variations.

Cams and valvetrain are fairly unique...as well as the variable valve timing systems used by each maker. Not sure if there is interhangeability on the cams.

Intake and exhaust manifolds are also unique b/w makers...again, suited to the needs of the vehicles they may find themselves in and what kind of packaging/powerband characteristics may suit the platforms the best.

Not sure what turbo the 2.0t will use though.



As to the car, I love it. Don't care that it's a Hyundai...they've come a LONG way since the late 80's and through the 90's. The style of the car is a blatant copy of the nicer/sportier G37 coupe, but who cares? It looks pretty decent! Long hood, short deck are always a good thing in my book. Though I will say I don't like the car in some colors (yellow/blue come to mind). Maybe a gunmetal grey/charcoal would look best?

I'd go for the 2.0 personally...better sound, and easy potential increases in performance. If I wanted an auto, I'd go with the 6.

Yea I was a bit careful in my wording... by saying it would share the block. Until someone really rips apart the actual 2.0t to see how the internals will hold up it's really all speculation. But the engineering is definately shared between the engines, and as you mentioned the potential will certainly be there. Can't wait to see what the aftermarket has in store.

Yea I do find it funny how Hyundai clearly ripped off the G37. The rear end is almost a spitting image.

[TURTLE]

i'm not one for the styling, but the performance out of the box and the potential to go much faster speaks for itself...

the industry needed this car right now... plain and simple...

on a side note, i'd rather have seen the dodge razor or the demon concepts... ;)

[1siksrt]

Im a huge fan of them, wish they would have been able to fit an inline 6. Drivetrain loss will kill that lil four banger at that curb weight, but who knows. Def. would consider purchasing one.

[Russ Jerome]

Not too long ago you would bet Hyundai would pull out
or be a sideline like Dawoo or Kia in the states.

Now here we are with the big three sitting on shaky
ground the Hyundai people are flying along under the
radar building 300+ HP 4DR luxo boats and RWD turbo
coupes....wow.

"Hi Im Russ and Im a closet Hyundai fan"
(the quiet voice from under the brown paper bag)

[Russ Jerome]

Hey if your drinking like me...ok not that much but try this:

Squint your eyes and picture a 3 side Mercedez Benz logo
on the grill and decklid...didnt work? Drink another and try
again it looks cool when you get it!

[Exitspeed]

I've been keeping up with the Development of this car ever since Hyundai first announced it.

They've turned me into a huge fan. The styling of the Sedan and Coupe are lightyears better then anything they've ever had in their history.

Now that Nissan has supposedly canceled the SX, once I get a job I may be taking my money to Hyundai to sooth my RWD coupe needs.

[twicks69]

It is NOT using the 4B11 platform. It is 2-liter, and is produced by the same casting manufacturer as the 4B11 -- that is it.

It is a very stout platform and the 4-banger-turbo with the 6-speed track version is an awesome price for a very cool car that will be carrying a very heavy backing of aftermarket parts. The engine is also capable of supporting much more HP than stock in the stock form (head and block are really nice pieces).

You can learn alot more on Buschur Racing's forums regarding the Genesis coupe, as they do have coverage of Rhys Millen's Hyundai Genesis coupe Drift Car that is putting down over 400whp.

[sdb300zx]

I like it, love the styling of it also. I would like to test drive one for sh*ts and giggles

[GTSLOW]

Nice looking car. I'd take a black one in the track version.

[Deggy]

I'll take one in blue please.

[Chadwich]

I'll be looking for one in nordschleife gray or Karussell white.
Should be a nice car.

[TheRX7Project]

I loathe the front and sides, especially that stupid "dip" in the rear quarter window.

That aside, it's a pretty sweet car, and I can totally see RJ's "Mercedes" vision.

[turbogarrett]

Liked it until I saw the curb weight :stare Hopefully the 3450 figure is for the fully optioned auto v6.

[WilliamZ]

I like it. I am sort impressed with Hyundai and their Genesis line. I'm going to drive their big sedan with the 4.6 in it. My father said it sort of drives like his 08' Lexus LS460.

[1siksrt]

I curious if the trannies will take the power w/ aftermarket parts??? Hyundai is known for having weak transmissions

[twicks69]

I stand corrected, I thought that the genesis coupe did NOT have a 4B11 variant engine -- the block is 4B11, and the head and turbo is different than the Evo X; more along the detuned lines of the Ralliart version. It is looking to be around 220-250HP at the crank. Current speculative numbers are placing the stock internals to hold up to around 300-350whp based on Asian performance shops that have modified them already. There are dyno numbers posted for a GT30R setup putting it around 360whp on a dynojet at moderate boost levels on the stock engine. The more conservative numbers have been put around 300-325whp safely.

I think that there is going to be a heavy performance market for this vehicle, and know that Beyond Redline, AMS, and Buschur Racing will all have Hyundai Genesis Coupes in their stable in 2009. If the car can lighten up a bit, it is around 3400#, it will be a very nice car that could be very capable for time attack, drift, drag, and street use.

In stock form, they are rated for high 14-second 1/4 mile passes; which puts it between a 2G AWD DSM 5-speed and a Lancer Ralliart for stock power levels. We'll see what all happens this year!

I am excited, and have been contemplating the purchase of one, but I will likely wait for atleast a year and pick up a Track "R" version with the 2.0L and the 6-speed with the larger brake setup. It will have a Torsen Rear LSD, BEEFY sway bars, quick ratio steering box, 13.4" front/ 13" rear rotor setup with 4-piston fixed Brembo calipers at all corners (42mm bore for up front, and 32mm/28mm differential bore rear caliper setup).

I cannot wait to pull apart the 6-speed transmission and see what the guts look like before they are all broken. I think that the trans will be beefier than the Hyundai engine internals. Hopefully, they don't put a ***** clutch in the car like Mitsubishi did with the Evo. Nothing like having the clutch wear out in a couple thousand miles (though it is cheaper to replace a clutch than to replace a broken transmission from clutch dumps). I hope that they put a quality 6-speed close ratio transmission together for this car.

As for aftermarket support, I think that there will also be a bit for the big motor, since Rhys Millen is running a Genesis Coupe for Drift events, utilizing a "Hyundai Lambda 3.8-liter V6 engine, which comes standard on the Genesis Coupe 3.8, will be stroked to 4.1-liters and further enhanced by a Turbonetics turbocharger. An AEM engine management system will also be used. The engine will be mated to a HKS sequential transmission. The end result is a Genesis Coupe that will produce 550 horsepower and 520 lb.-ft. of torque"

It will be an exiting year for at least one vehicle on the market!

[wrath]

You've got to be kidding me. It weights 200lbs less than a G8 and makes the same power. Oh, and it costs more. Oh, wait, you can get a G8 GT for less than the 3.8L Genesis and make 100hp more. Did I mention the Genesis Sedan weights the same as a G8?

Sure, you can get a stripmodel 4banger for $22k... but just about everyone has two seaters in that pricerange. If they started at $18k they'd have a chance.

The whale of the Genesis Coupe is going to sink the failboat. I think it might have had a chance if it came out four years ago. In fact, I think it probably would've done really well. At least PC Pro School flunkies that have been driving around in their Tiburon have something to dream about. I mean, at $22k that's a $440/month payment.

[Prince Valiant]

You've got to be kidding me. It weights 200lbs less than a G8 and makes the same power. Oh, and it costs more. Oh, wait, you can get a G8 GT for less than the 3.8L Genesis and make 100hp more. Did I mention the Genesis Sedan weights the same as a G8?

Sure, you can get a stripmodel 4banger for $22k... but just about everyone has two seaters in that pricerange. If they started at $18k they'd have a chance.

The whale of the Genesis Coupe is going to sink the failboat. I think it might have had a chance if it came out four years ago. In fact, I think it probably would've done really well. At least PC Pro School flunkies that have been driving around in their Tiburon have something to dream about. I mean, at $22k that's a $440/month payment.:crazyeyes :violin
Hmmmm....let's count the problems here:

1. 3450 is NOT 200lbs less than 4031 of the GT.

2. 306 hp of the 3.8 is NOT 100 hp less than the 361hp v8 of the GT's 6.0 v8, but 55 less. Which, btw, is less than the hyundai's 4.6's v8 of 376hp.

3. A genesis 3.8 w/ six speed starts at 26,000...LESS than a 2009 G8 GT 31+G starting price.

4. This thread is about the genesis coupe, not the sedan...two wholly different cars and demographic appeals. Reading the thread and not simply reacting to the title might be considered prudent in the future...hell, even just looking at the pictures would have put you WAY ahead here :rolleyes:

[WhatsADSM]

You've got to be kidding me. It weights 200lbs less than a G8 and makes the same power. Oh, and it costs more. Oh, wait, you can get a G8 GT for less than the 3.8L Genesis and make 100hp more. Did I mention the Genesis Sedan weights the same as a G8?

Sure, you can get a stripmodel 4banger for $22k... but just about everyone has two seaters in that pricerange. If they started at $18k they'd have a chance.

The whale of the Genesis Coupe is going to sink the failboat. I think it might have had a chance if it came out four years ago. In fact, I think it probably would've done really well. At least PC Pro School flunkies that have been driving around in their Tiburon have something to dream about. I mean, at $22k that's a $440/month payment.

If you check the top of the forums note it says "Sport Compact & Import Forum"

It was almost ALWAYS cheaper in a straight line to go out an buy a domestic. Truth be told, I actually think the G8 is a great car, but people buy imports for much different reasons.

But here I would like to entertain some of your expert advise on the G8 GT versus Genesis Coupe argument.

1) Your claim of "100hp more" is actually only 55hp (361-306= 55).

2) Your claim of "200lbs less" is actually more in the 400lb+ less range. IIRC the G8 GT is right around 4000 lb curb weight with the V6 Genesis coupe around 3550.

3) And last but not least my favorite, "Oh, and it costs more". I just went on Pontiac's website and the G8 GT MSRP started around 29k, which is 4k more than the 25k which the 3.8L Genesis coupe starts at. In fact it actually starts off 4k less.


The whale of the Genesis Coupe is going to sink the failboat. I think it might have had a chance if it came out four years ago. In fact, I think it probably would've done really well. At least PC Pro School flunkies that have been driving around in their Tiburon have something to dream about. I mean, at $22k that's a $440/month payment.

And a 29k G8GT is probably a ~$575/month payment for whatever terms you used to calculate the 440/month genesis. But it would be funny when you go to the track and the PC Pro School dropout ran circles around a bunch of cars in a Hyundai with a few bolt ons. :goof

My guess is that the Genesis coupe does pretty well, but hey only time will tell.

[Prince Valiant]

I tree'd ya.

[WhatsADSM]

:crazyeyes :violin
Hmmmm....let's count the problems here:

1. 3450 is NOT 200lbs less than 4031 of the GT.

2. 306 hp of the 3.8 is NOT 100 hp less than the 361hp v8 of the GT's 6.0 v8, but 55 less. Which, btw, is less than the hyundai's 4.6's v8 of 376hp.

3. A genesis 3.8 w/ six speed starts at 26,000...LESS than a 2009 G8 GT 31+G starting price.

4. This thread is about the genesis coupe, not the sedan...two wholly different cars and demographic appeals. Reading the thread and not simply reacting to the title might be considered prudent in the future...hell, even just looking at the pictures would have put you WAY ahead here :rolleyes:

You are too fast with your replies! :devil

[WhatsADSM]

I tree'd ya.

FUCK... twice!

[Prince Valiant]

I was going to go for three...but figured I'd go easy on ya, lol...

[nismodave]

:crazyeyes :violin
Hmmmm....let's count the problems here:

1. 3450 is NOT 200lbs less than 4031 of the GT.

2. 306 hp of the 3.8 is NOT 100 hp less than the 361hp v8 of the GT's 6.0 v8, but 55 less. Which, btw, is less than the hyundai's 4.6's v8 of 376hp.

3. A genesis 3.8 w/ six speed starts at 26,000...LESS than a 2009 G8 GT 31+G starting price.

4. This thread is about the genesis coupe, not the sedan...two wholly different cars and demographic appeals. Reading the thread and not simply reacting to the title might be considered prudent in the future...hell, even just looking at the pictures would have put you WAY ahead here :rolleyes:

Powned!!

[nismodave]

Liked it until I saw the curb weight :stare Hopefully the 3450 figure is for the fully optioned auto v6.

Curbs are heavy.

[wrath]

:crazyeyes :violin
Hmmmm....let's count the problems here:

1. 3450 is NOT 200lbs less than 4031 of the GT.

3450lbs is for the 4 banger strip model. The V6 *starts* at 3600lbs. The V6 G8 is 3800lbs and is a SUBSTANTIALLY bigger car. It's more than a foot longer, an inch wider, and like 3 or 4 inches taller.

3450/212 (strip model Genesis coupe = 16.27lbs/hp
3850/256 (strip model G8) = 15.09lbs/hp
5200/367 (Silverado LTZ extended cab 5.5' box 4x4 with a L76) = 14.16lbs/hp

The point is that the G8 is a fat car (but not as fat as a Charger) and the Hyundai, for having two fewer doors and a foot less sheetmetal is no spring chicken.


2. 306 hp of the 3.8 is NOT 100 hp less than the 361hp v8 of the GT's 6.0 v8, but 55 less. Which, btw, is less than the hyundai's 4.6's v8 of 376hp.

I admit, I exaggerated at the 100hp.

I'll take the L76 with 361@5400 and 375lbft@4400 over the 310@6000 and 263lbft@4700 Hyundai SpinToWin 3.8L.

Heck, the bargain basement 3.6L in the G8 makes 255@6200 and 252lbft@3100 rpm

Or, spend a couple bucks more and get the direct-injected 3.6L with 302@6300 and 272lbft@5200.

LS3 and 415hp.


3. A genesis 3.8 w/ six speed starts at 26,000...LESS than a 2009 G8 GT 31+G starting price.

For an apples to apples comparison (the track model with the slushbox) the Hyundai starts at $31k (The 2009 G8 base starts at $28k and the G8 GT starts at $32k according to the pricing schedules updated yesterday I just looked at).

Besides, what they sticker at and what they sell for are two different things. We have a member that just recently bought a G8. They didn't pay $31k but I'm sure you're not going to get a penny off a Genesis.



4. This thread is about the genesis coupe, not the sedan...two wholly different cars and demographic appeals. Reading the thread and not simply reacting to the title might be considered prudent in the future...hell, even just looking at the pictures would have put you WAY ahead here :rolleyes:

There is a valid comparison here. Buy the Silverado. :rolf

[wrath]

And a 29k G8GT is probably a ~$575/month payment for whatever terms you used to calculate the 440/month genesis. But it would be funny when you go to the track and the PC Pro School dropout ran circles around a bunch of cars in a Hyundai with a few bolt ons. :goof

I used $20/$1000 financed for 5 years. So it'd be more like $600/month for the G8.

Why is everything "with a few boltons"? Have you seen GM's J1349 SAE dyno sheets? Does Hyundai even submit to J1349?

How about $700 for hptuners or EFIlive and just about any GM vehicle?

Oh, wait. I forgot. This is like the classic ricer mantra. They go to a autocross and say their car is set up for drag racing when they fail. Then when they go to a strip they say their car is set up for autocross when they fail.

Most people, when they have a warranty and a financed vehicle... they don't do much to them.

[WhatsADSM]

Wow, slow down there. Take your own advise and compare apples to apples.

We were comparing your "high end" G8 GT to the "high end" V6 Genesis coupe.

Weight:

3450lbs is for the 4 banger strip model. The V6 *starts* at 3600lbs. The V6 G8 is 3800lbs and is a SUBSTANTIALLY bigger car. It's more than a foot longer, an inch wider, and like 3 or 4 inches taller.

3450/212 (strip model Genesis coupe = 16.27lbs/hp
3850/256 (strip model G8) = 15.09lbs/hp
5200/367 (Silverado LTZ extended cab 5.5' box 4x4 with a L76) = 14.16lbs/hp


Genesis curb weight: 3549lb.
G8GT Curb weight: 3995lb.
Difference = 3995 - 3549 = 446 lbs.
Sources:
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=124883/pageNumber=2
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-to-start-at-22-000/

Price:

For an apples to apples comparison (the track model with the slushbox) the Hyundai starts at $31k (The 2009 G8 base starts at $28k and the G8 GT starts at $32k according to the pricing schedules updated yesterday I just looked at).

Besides, what they sticker at and what they sell for are two different things. We have a member that just recently bought a G8. They didn't pay $31k but I'm sure you're not going to get a penny off a Genesis.

An optioned TO THE BRIMS Genesis coupe is 31k. The base model is 25k.. That is a FACT. Many people buying a performance car actually WANT a manual which they down even offer for the G8 GT.

The G8 GT starts at 29k, even though most tested (with likely less options that the to-the-brims Genesis) were around 33k-34k.

The fact remains for the same options the Genesis is around 4k less.

Sources:
Same links as already posted within this thread.

HAHA. MSRP on a Hyundai makes me laugh. :rolf They might sell at MSRP for like a few months, and that's only if people really think it is something special. Hyundai will just pump those Genesis coupes out as much as need be. I HIGHLY doubt you will be paying MSRP on a Hyundai just like you wont pay MSRP on the G8.

Modding/Aftermarket:

Why is everything "with a few boltons"? Have you seen GM's J1349 SAE dyno sheets? Does Hyundai even submit to J1349?

How about $700 for hptuners or EFIlive and just about any GM vehicle?

....

Most people, when they have a warranty and a financed vehicle... they don't do much to them.

I can not speak to Hyundai's adherence to J1349, because I simply do not know. We will know more once it has some performance tests done, it is as simple as that.

Everything is "with a few boltons" because that is what people in the import world do. You would be EXTEREMLY hard pressed to find a stock evo. People buy those things and pretty much drive them to the local speed shop. When you have a 2.0t RWD car that starts at 22k, that will leave a lot of cash for modifications.

And what about the what, less than $100, open ECU flashing for the EVO?


Oh, wait. I forgot. This is like the classic ricer mantra. They go to a autocross and say their car is set up for drag racing when they fail. Then when they go to a strip they say their car is set up for autocross when they fail.
Imports are typically more rounded cars, and American cars typically go better in a straight line. So?!

I'll bet my ricer could wax most cars on this site. American, German, Japanese, Italian, etc. And it will do it on a road coarse or a drag strip (even though it's definately not setup for an auto-x, it would probably do it there as well). That's my ricer mantra.

[wrath]

Wow, slow down there. Take your own advise and compare apples to apples.

We were comparing your "high end" G8 GT to the "high end" V6 Genesis coupe.

Weight:
Genesis curb weight: 3549lb.
G8GT Curb weight: 3995lb.
Difference = 3995 - 3549 = 446 lbs.
Sources:
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=124883/pageNumber=2
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-to-start-at-22-000/

3995/361 (G8GT) = 11.06 lb/hp
3995/415 (G8 GXP) = 9.62 lb/hp
3549/310 (Screamin' cheetah Genesis) = 11.44 lb/hp


Price:
An optioned TO THE BRIMS Genesis coupe is 31k. The base model is 25k.. That is a FACT. Many people buying a performance car actually WANT a manual which they down even offer for the G8 GT.

The G8 GT starts at 29k, even though most tested (with likely less options that the to-the-brims Genesis) were around 33k-34k.

The fact remains for the same options the Genesis is around 4k less.

2009 G8:
Base: $28,190 + $685 destination
GT: $31,555 + $685 destination
GXP: $37,610 + $685 destination

Options:
Premium Base = $1,375
Premium GT = $1,250
Comfort & Sound Base = $795
Sport Package GT = $600
Power Sunroof = $900
6 Speed Manual Transmission = $695

I'd have to look to see if they really had the same options (other than engine per dollar).



HAHA. MSRP on a Hyundai makes me laugh. :rolf They might sell at MSRP for like a few months, and that's only if people really think it is something special. Hyundai will just pump those Genesis coupes out as much as need be. I HIGHLY doubt you will be paying MSRP on a Hyundai just like you wont pay MSRP on the G8.

When I was at Boucher they didn't want to deal on a Hyundai. All they would do is the current rebates. Which for a long time was a max of like $1500 on a Sante Fe or $500 on a Tiburon.



Imports are typically more rounded cars, and American cars typically go better in a straight line. So?!


I think that's more of a yesteryear thing. I suspect the CTS, even though it's $36k, will probably be in the same performance world as a Genesis... but it'll do it with the power butt wiper package on.

[whitehatch]

nice to see wrath turned this thread into a gm nutswinging thread.....

[wrath]

nice to see wrath turned this thread into a gm nutswinging thread.....

I can go the same way with the fifth generation Ford Mustang. It's definitely a better bargain than the G8 and Genesis, it's just dated.

I just like GM better. :durr

[WhatsADSM]

nice to see wrath turned this thread into a gm nutswinging thread.....

Yea it was a discussion thread, but if there is one thing I know about wrath is that arguing with him can be like a broken record. For good or bad, once he has his mind made up about cars, homes, whatever, he won't be changing it. Even if you have hard facts if it ain't on the record he will play back the same old.

I will tell you one thing I learned. I did not know you could get the G8 with the LSx in a 6-speed manual. :thumbsup

[twicks69]

And I thought this was going to be a cool thread about the new 4-cylinder turbo RWD coupe on the market....Not an e-fight over why GM is better than a Hyundai.

[Prince Valiant]

The point is that the G8 is a fat car No, your point wasn't that the G8 was a fat car. Otherwise you would have said:

The G8 GT is a fat car.preferably in your own thread.

YOUR point was trying to make a comparison b/w the G8 vs that of the Hyundai Genesis Sedan...or what you most likely thought was a coupe version of said sedan...which this isn't.


NOW, after the fact, you are hasitly still trying to come back and say:

Woah, woah, woah! Did I say G8 GT? No, what I meant to say was G8 base. Yeah, that's it!

And did I say 100hp?!? Pish posh! I was simply using hyperbole...you know, just for fun.

And you know I said (and I'll directly cut and paste my own quote for empahsis):
Oh, wait, you can get a G8 GT for less than the 3.8L Genesis and make 100hp more ^Well, I don't even KNOW what I was talking about ^there^^

:rolf silly me!Yep, pretty much every point, very wrong.

Like I said...at least look at the pictures and at least see what the thread is about in the future. And also, at least maybe get your facts right before posting too...but work on figuring out what the thread is about first.

Baby steps wrath, baby steps.

Listen...no one is going to cross shope the genesis coupe and G8 anything. No 4 banger to v6 or v8 comparison. No v6 to v6. No v6 to v8.

No doubt, it's a good thing we actually quoted what you origninally said...otherwise I have no faith that you'd left it up there with how far out-there it was, lol.

[WhatsADSM]

Just thought I would update this thread, as someone on another forum I post on posted some pics of awesome looking coupes.

Looks like rim swaps with a drop... I'll be honest they look SEXXXY!


http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/DSC05291.JPG
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/DSC05290.JPG
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/DSC05265.JPG
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/002.jpg
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn226/sqc120/hotness.jpg
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/P1010740.jpg
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/DSC_8341.JPG
http://gcoupeclub.net/com/data/pds_photo/pds_photo_913_2008121117321072055_2.jpg
http://bkmania.com/bbs/data/bk_gallery/DSC04621.JPG[/QUOTE]

[cool_kat]

i will take the black one, thank you.

[TURTLE]

true. but everything looks better on volks or bbs wheels! lol even neons ;)

[Prince Valiant]

FWIW, MT tested one going 14.0 (both auto and manual) both at 101mph...the turbo 4 is reputed to be 14.5 @ 95mph...

[Silver86]

holy crap... i think im in love!

[nissmo127]

This is the car Nissan failed to bring for the last 20+ years..... I Love It! Its like a poor mans G35/37 but with a turbo 4 siiick:headbang
4B11 platform will probably prove to be this countries SR20DET(I wish it had the SR'S closed deck but closed deck sleeves will surely be available soon)

Sharing some parts(?) with EVO guys will help to (those fools break crap daily:D already seeing blown-up/upgrade posts on evo m).
I will be purchasing one for my shop as soon as we sell the GST rwd project. I hope to do some upgrades while waiting for a cheap block to come available from a evo to sleeve and build up,,,I am wondering if open source guys have jumped in yet??

[URLOZIN]

Never really been a fan of hyundai, but I like it alot.

[That_Guy]

wow those are great looking

[jakedrew]

cant believe no one posted about AMS having one.

http://genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=2154

[wrath]

Is it just me or is the rear camber fscked up? It looks like a 911 set up for track duty. Or is it just a crappy camera?

I like how the AMS one has pictures of more than just the body.

[Exitspeed]

500hp 3.8 Gen Coupe. *grab your favorite lotion and a tissue and enjoy*

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/GENESIS-COUPE-380-T04RS_642787.htm

[Silver86]

500hp 3.8 Gen Coupe. *grab your favorite lotion and a tissue and enjoy*

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/GENESIS-COUPE-380-T04RS_642787.htm

awesome!!!!


i really love the body lines of this car.

[GTSLOW]

497whp/447wtq.

:wooo