TWC losing channels???

[RanJer]

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-viacom31-2008dec31,1,5837212.story

Watching Comedy Central and there's a scroller telling me to call a number to stop it from happening. So I looked it up, and apparently TWC and Viacom got beef..

[GRAMPS SS]

your fav shows jeri....i'd write letters....

[lordairgtar]

I say fawk em. My cable bill is too much anyway. viacom and TWC can both kiss my bahookie

[RanJer]

Your favorites too Wayner...

Time Warner Cable Inc. could lose such Viacom channels as Nickelodeon, MTV, VH-1, Comedy Central, Spike, TV Land and BET.

[xxtremeteam]

good thing I have Direct tv -no problems here havent missed TWC once since I told them to go F themselfs, its nice our bill is now the same every month!!

[DynoTom]

If the channels they are talking about really do go from my cable I will dump my cable...The prices keep going up was bad enough to deal with and now losing most of the channels I watch to boot are the last straw!:fire:fire:fire


I guess I go with direct TV.....

[Nick]

I've been noticing this too. Intermittently.

[DynoTom]

I have had cable here for MANY years now , I like the service for the most part, latley the prices are just getting too high, now with the channels I watch going away there is no reason to stay...

[Nick]

YEah, prices for TV are just getting outrageous

[97z2801ss]

I just saw this too watching fresh prince: my son loves Dora, Icarly and "bob bob". Why does it say you can stop this by calling and 800 number? Going to make us pay more? Ill have my dad dump TWC for Uverse or Direct tv

[SSDude]

Dish FTW

[twirkin50]

What a surprise..........

[GRAMPS SS]

If the channels they are talking about really do go from my cable I will dump my cable...The prices keep going up was bad enough to deal with and now losing most of the channels I watch to boot are the last straw!:fire:fire:fire


I guess I go with direct TV.....



same here....or maybe AT&T will get there asses in gear and fix my shit out here and i can get there cable...:fire

[Myles]

people still watch TV the old way?

[Mr. Brett]

They're taking away BET???? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

[SSDude]

'SpongeBob' may go dark on Time Warner
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_bi_ge/viacom_time_warner_cable

LOS ANGELES – "SpongeBob SquarePants" may be getting squeezed off of Time Warner Cable.

Media giant Viacom Inc. said its Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central and 16 other channels will go dark for 13 million subscribers at 12:01 a.m. Thursday if a new carriage fee deal with Time Warner Cable is not agreed upon by then.

The impasse would mean "SpongeBob" and other popular shows like Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" and Stephen Colbert's "The Colbert Report" will be cut off, said spokesman Alex Dudley, a vice president at Time Warner Cable. The nation's second-largest cable operator primarily serves customers in New York state, the Carolinas, Ohio, Southern California and Texas.

Viacom has asked for fee increases of between 22 percent and 36 percent per channel, an amount that could increase customers' cable bills, Dudley said. Viacom spokeswoman Kelly McAndrew said the requested increase was in the very low double-digit percentage range.

"The issue is that they have asked for an exorbitant increase in their carriage fees and their network ratings are sagging," Dudley said. "Basically we're trying to hold the line for our customer."

[Nick]

Yeah, wow. I love HD tv but over $100 a month for that not including the internet - come on...

[Holeshot]

'SpongeBob' may go dark on Time Warner
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081231/ap_on_bi_ge/viacom_time_warner_cable

LOS ANGELES – "SpongeBob SquarePants" may be getting squeezed off of Time Warner Cable.

Media giant Viacom Inc. said its Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central and 16 other channels will go dark for 13 million subscribers at 12:01 a.m. Thursday if a new carriage fee deal with Time Warner Cable is not agreed upon by then.

The impasse would mean "SpongeBob" and other popular shows like Jon Stewart's "The Daily Show" and Stephen Colbert's "The Colbert Report" will be cut off, said spokesman Alex Dudley, a vice president at Time Warner Cable. The nation's second-largest cable operator primarily serves customers in New York state, the Carolinas, Ohio, Southern California and Texas.

Viacom has asked for fee increases of between 22 percent and 36 percent per channel, an amount that could increase customers' cable bills, Dudley said. Viacom spokeswoman Kelly McAndrew said the requested increase was in the very low double-digit percentage range.

"The issue is that they have asked for an exorbitant increase in their carriage fees and their network ratings are sagging," Dudley said. "Basically we're trying to hold the line for our customer."

^^^^ :rolf:rolf:rolf:rolf


FOOK Time Warner. They no nothing about customer service or whom puts food on their table. :flipoff2:

Satellite FTW :banana

[Car Guy]

I'm pretty sure everybody knows where I stand on this subject with TW.....:flipoff2:

[Nick]

I have never had a problem with TW's service, or customer service. It's been flawless for me. It's just too damn expensive.

[PureSound15]

I have no choice but to have TW in my condo :( I hate it. It's expensive, the menu sucks (compared to DirectTV) and I have problems with shows going black all the time.

I can't wait to buy a home so I can do it my way.

[lilws6]

just hang a dish out the window :goof DTV FTW

[Myles]

Or just download the shows you like to watch.

Just a suggestion.

[Nick]

Or just download the shows you like to watch.

Just a suggestion.

Some people have high definition televisions and we like to watch shows in high definition on their TV

:)

Unless you can DL the shows in 1080?

[Myles]

Some people have high definition televisions and we like to watch shows in high definition on their TV

:)

Unless you can DL the shows in 1080?

If it can be shown in HD it can be downloaded in HD 1080/720 blu ray, reg tv shows, ppv, movies or whatever else you want. Porn also.

[Mr Twigbert]

At first I was like WTF???

But then after reading that atricle I can see how TW is trying to save the customers $$$...

If they give in then others will want more $$$ and our already high bill will only get higher..

[moels]

If they lose the channels for good or get them back at a cost raise to us, I will see what dish or directtv has for deals. Either that or I just stop watching tv. Might be better for me anyway. lol

[CobraSnake]

Some people have high definition televisions and we like to watch shows in high definition on their TV

:)

Unless you can DL the shows in 1080?
Well I know if you have a XBOX 360. You can get a extra piece for it that does a pretty cool thing. I heard it can wirelessly show whats on your computer screen right on your TV. So if you download movies and that on your computer you then can watch it on your big screen.

Mark

[SSDude]

If they lose the channels for good or get them back at a cost raise to us, I will see what dish or directtv has for deals. Either that or I just stop watching tv. Might be better for me anyway. lol

Got to figure Viacom is jacking everyone for the shows. Cable or satellite won't be able to avoid it.
Over the air HD or download. Tell the cable/ sat people to piss off.

[Myles]

Well I know if you have a XBOX 360. You can get a extra piece for it that does a pretty cool thing. I heard it can wirelessly show whats on your computer screen right on your TV. So if you download movies and that on your computer you then can watch it on your big screen.

Mark

just... stop talking...

[CobraSnake]

just... stop talking...
stop listening and go die in a fire!!!

[RanJer]

Well I know if you have a XBOX 360. You can get a extra piece for it that does a pretty cool thing. I heard it can wirelessly show whats on your computer screen right on your TV. So if you download movies and that on your computer you then can watch it on your big screen.

Mark

Or you can buy a video card that isn't a POS and just run audio/video to your TV... hdmi or they make a component adapter thing from ATI

[Myles]

stop listening and go die in a fire!!!

You should probably stop posting about shit that you have no idea what you are talking about. Cause you just sound more and more stupid every time you hit that post button.

[kornholio788]

Sadly the only provider that goes into my apt is TW. So I am sorta stuck with them. If my bill goes up more than 5 dollars or my tv goes dark I will just cancle my cable. And maby boost up my internet speeds to the next level.

[GTSLOW]

For its part, Time Warner said Viacom's demands for higher fees were "egregious," particularly at a time when the country is in the throes of an economic recession and subscribers are sensitive to costly cable bills.

"We are being put in an awkward spot," Time Warner Cable spokesman Alex Dudley said. "Advertising revenue stinks so they are looking to stick our customers for the difference. We have to hold the line for our customers."




What really pisses me off is these stupid ads running across the bottom of the screen. ******* TW is probably getting thousands of calls from angry idiots now.

[twirkin50]

This is why they are pushing the price lock guarantee so much right now. You are locked in for two years at a set price. So, if they lose all these channels and you want out you'd better be ready to shell out the $100+ for early termination fees. Time Warner is on my last nerve currently. I am soooo tempted to pull the plug on them.

[GTSLOW]

Is Comcast/Charter part of TW?

[subliminal1284]

Negative

[CobraSnake]

You should probably stop posting about shit that you have no idea what you are talking about. Cause you just sound more and more stupid every time you hit that post button.
well then why don't you enlighten me then. Instead of just posting ******* non-sense. That is what I heard so until you prove me otherwise STFU.

Mark

[Mr Twigbert]

I wouldn't really care here but the first channel on in my house is Noggin & Nick Jr. for the kids..

I don't know what we will do if we loose those channels.. They have been my baby sitter for years now..

[Exitspeed]

What really pisses me off is these stupid ads running across the bottom of the screen. ******* TW is probably getting thousands of calls from angry idiots now.


This is why they are pushing the price lock guarantee so much right now. You are locked in for two years at a set price. So, if they lose all these channels and you want out you'd better be ready to shell out the $100+ for early termination fees. Time Warner is on my last nerve currently. I am soooo tempted to pull the plug on them.

I tried calling earlier and it was just straight busy and you couldn't get through.

I don't have a contract any longer. I can live with out the rest of those channels but Spike is what puts it over the edge for me.

I'll be canceling my cable and see if I can get U-Verse here in New Berlin.

[moels]

The only one that I would really miss is SpikeTv I think.

I just got the digi-phone installed and got the package price of $106 ( RR, HDcable and phone ).

[moels]

I tried calling earlier and it was just straight busy and you couldn't get through.

I don't have a contract any longer. I can live with out the rest of those channels but Spike is what puts it over the edge for me.

I'll be canceling my cable and see if I can get U-Verse here in New Berlin.

I got through earlier and got credited for the UFC PPV I ordered last Saturday. I had to wait on hold for a little bit, but the girl credited me for the PPV so I was happy.

[Exitspeed]

I'll be canceling my cable and see if I can get U-Verse here in New Berlin.

Boo, they don't even have U0Verse available at my address yet. I love near Beloit and Sunnyslope for crying out loud.


I got through earlier and got credited for the UFC PPV I ordered last Saturday. I had to wait on hold for a little bit, but the girl credited me for the PPV so I was happy.

Man I bet they are loosing their ass on this.

[Myles]

well then why don't you enlighten me then. Instead of just posting ******* non-sense. That is what I heard so until you prove me otherwise STFU.

Mark

Its called media center, you turn the option on, your turn your pc to do it, then you setup the folders you want, and stream the shit to your xbox. There is no extra peices. So please just stfu and go away already.

[Exitspeed]

Its called media center, you turn the option on, your turn your pc to do it, then you setup the folders you want, and stream the shit to your xbox. There is no extra peices. So please just stfu and go away already.

This is true. So easy a Camaro owner can do it. :thumbsup

[Waver]

Just as long as FX is not going anywhere I should be all right......used to watch toon network, spike (when it had bull run) and comedy central (for southpark) all the time, but I can live with out them

[Myles]

This is true. So easy a Camaro owner can do it. :thumbsup

I heard mustang owners have issues with setting it up tho.

[wrath]

I don't have TWC TV anymore. If they don't get their shit together they're going to be out of business.

[domokun]

twc is following suit with charter....charter is claiming bankruptcy in the 1st qtr of 2009. they are doing this to restructure. ( last I heard )

again, if anyone HAS uverse or WANTS uverse. let me know

if you have it, I can try to cut deals and get you some promotions or test out new stuff
if you DONT have it, and want it. PM your address and I can see if your avail, and if your not, I can maybe MAKE is avail ;)

let me know

again, for anyone that wants to point me out. I make NOTHING off this, Im trying to help the locals and others! I help people from my other car/photo/av/game forums

[BoosTT]

Damnit. TWC already took away mojo. The only channel in the HD package I like and now I barely get any HD channels, wtf!!

[Ricky Bobby]

twc is following suit with charter....charter is claiming bankruptcy in the 1st qtr of 2009. they are doing this to restructure. ( last I heard )

again, if anyone HAS uverse or WANTS uverse. let me know

if you have it, I can try to cut deals and get you some promotions or test out new stuff
if you DONT have it, and want it. PM your address and I can see if your avail, and if your not, I can maybe MAKE is avail ;)

let me know

again, for anyone that wants to point me out. I make NOTHING off this, Im trying to help the locals and others! I help people from my other car/photo/av/game forums
wow u cant have ur facts more screwed up geez :wooo

the prob is those channels used to be free to brodcast on twc and since the economy is shot they want to start charging all the cable companies to carry them even ur loved at&t, they will shut it down tonight at midnight they are asking for a 23% price increase for the cable companies to carry there ch. so we are in talks with them all day. They used to be free when they had plenty of advertising revenue comin in but alot has fallen off so i hope they dont go dark it will suck

i obviously work for twc and sorry for the stuff happening but people are greedy and want there money so, we have to hash out this contract

[Holeshot]

wow u cant have ur facts more screwed up geez :wooo

the prob is those channels used to be free to brodcast on twc and since the economy is shot they want to start charging all the cable companies to carry them even ur loved at&t, they will shut it down tonight at midnight they are asking for a 23% price increase for the cable companies to carry there ch. so we are in talks with them all day. They used to be free when they had plenty of advertising revenue comin in but alot has fallen off so i hope they dont go dark it will suck

i obviously work for twc and sorry for the stuff happening but people are greedy and want there money so, we have to hash out this contract
See an honest answers always gets respect from me. While I have had issues with both TWC and at&t I will say that at&t customer service is way worse.

But hay its always about money :alcoholic

[T-Bag]

twc is following suit with charter....charter is claiming bankruptcy in the 1st qtr of 2009. they are doing this to restructure. ( last I heard )

again, if anyone HAS uverse or WANTS uverse. let me know

if you have it, I can try to cut deals and get you some promotions or test out new stuff
if you DONT have it, and want it. PM your address and I can see if your avail, and if your not, I can maybe MAKE is avail ;)

let me know

again, for anyone that wants to point me out. I make NOTHING off this, Im trying to help the locals and others! I help people from my other car/photo/av/game forums

No

TWC is doing just fine...a lot better than AT&T.

[wrath]

If TWC was doing fine they wouldn't have raised my cable from $93/month to $128/month over a 1 year period. Especially when ATT is coming in and offering comparable service for $74/month.

[moels]

Seems I still have all my channels...........

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSBNG27125320090101

[Lash]

http://www.jsonline.com/business/36964069.html

[Exitspeed]

TW dodged a bullet there.

Looks like I won't be switching...

[domokun]

No

TWC is doing just fine...a lot better than AT&T.

you obviously dont get telecommunications monthly that pretty much gives a break down of all the providers and there profits/loses/contracts...I seen this viacom deal coming awhile ago.

I love it when people THINK they know, when they DONT know :rolf

but on the flip side, is TWC keep their head above water? yes.... are they jacking up there prices more than everyone else? yup...

twc is slidding down slope. now Im not saying AT&T is on a huge climb either. cancel rate and churn rate have done down dramadicaly, and coming the new year with new budget we are hiring more for every dept to do more installs...more installs = more repairs across the boards. and opposite of that TWC's cancel and churn rate has went up. because of shit line this ( remember the LIN issue? ) shit customer service, techs not showing up, HD selection, cost. etc... ( again, Im not saying AT&T is god to any of these either, nor will I back them on some shit they do!!!! )

twc has more customers than AT&T, becuase TWC can reach more customers.

ill stay out of this now like chad stays out gas threads.

[SSDude]

For me it's all about price and service. If your jacking the price i'll look for comparable service at a better price. If your service sucks I'll leave for better service for a comparable or better price. Common sense.
TW is jacking people on price therefore they will loose in the long run.

[T-Bag]

you obviously dont get telecommunications monthly that pretty much gives a break down of all the providers and there profits/loses/contracts...I seen this viacom deal coming awhile ago.

I love it when people THINK they know, when they DONT know :rolf

but on the flip side, is TWC keep their head above water? yes.... are they jacking up there prices more than everyone else? yup...

twc is slidding down slope. now Im not saying AT&T is on a huge climb either. cancel rate and churn rate have done down dramadicaly, and coming the new year with new budget we are hiring more for every dept to do more installs...more installs = more repairs across the boards. and opposite of that TWC's cancel and churn rate has went up. because of shit line this ( remember the LIN issue? ) shit customer service, techs not showing up, HD selection, cost. etc... ( again, Im not saying AT&T is god to any of these either, nor will I back them on some shit they do!!!! )

twc has more customers than AT&T, becuase TWC can reach more customers.

ill stay out of this now like chad stays out gas threads.

You just agreed with me in your post there...so why are you arguing against me? I said TWC is doing just fine (which they are) and they are doing a lot better than AT&T (which they are). So what do I not know then?

You are correct about TWC reaching more customers, but the fact of the matter is AT&T will never catch up to TWC due to its existing subscription base and how long its been around.

Time Warner's HD service is a lot better now, the only thing they don't have that anybody cares about is the NFL Network and Spike HD.

[Lash]

Time Warner's HD service is a lot better now

Their PPV HD sucks complete ass.

[DynoTom]

LOS ANGELES - Millions of Time Warner Cable customers won't lose their access to MTV and 18 other channels after the cable giant reached an agreement early Thursday with media conglomerate Viacom Inc.

The two sides, citing disagreement over fee hikes, had threatened a damaging blackout at a minute past midnight Thursday that would have cut off shows such as "SpongeBob SquarePants" and "The Colbert Report" to about 15.7 million subscribers.

"We are pleased that our customers will continue to be able to watch the customers will continue to be able to watch the programming they enjoy on MTV Networks," said Glenn Britt, president and CEO of Time Warner Cable Inc. "We are sorry they had to endure a day of public disagreement as we worked through this negotiation."

Terms of the deal were not disclosed. Details must still be finalized over the next few days, the companies said.

Viacom president and CEO Philippe Dauman said the company was happy a deal was struck. Viacom had mounted an advertising onslaught warning customers of the possible blackout, taking out ads in major newspapers and Web sites from The New York Times and TVGuide.com featuring a tearful "Dora the Explorer" crying and clinging to her monkey pal, Boots.

"Why is Dora crying?" the ad read. "Tonight you will lose Nickelodeon and 18 other channels from your TV." It then prompted people to call their cable company to complain.

The dispute would have affected some 13.3 million Time Warner Cable subscribers, mainly in New York state, the Carolinas, Ohio, Southern California and Texas; and 2.4 million customers of Bright House Networks in Michigan, Indiana, California, Alabama and Florida.

Time Warner Chief Executive Glenn Britt on Wednesday had called Viacom's demand for a 12 percent increase in fees — an extra $39 million on top of the estimated $300 million it pays Viacom annually — extortion and outrageous given the recession. Viacom countered that the requested increase amounted to an extra $2.76 annually per subscriber.

Viacom had argued that Americans spend a fifth of their TV time watching Viacom shows but its fees made up less than 2.5 percent of the Time Warner cable bill.

Spokeswoman Kelly McAndrew said that despite ranking high in the ratings, Viacom's cable networks' average daily license fee was 65 percent lower than that of networks run by The Walt Disney Co., News Corp.'s Fox, Time Warner Inc.'s Turner Broadcasting System and Discovery Communications Inc.

Analyst Michael Nathanson with Bernstein Research said Viacom's channels had been "underpriced relative to their peers."

Public carriage fee disputes of this scale between a programmer and a cable operator are not that common, especially when there's a threat of a blackout, said Derek Baine, senior analyst at SNL Kagan in Monterey, Calif. Typically, both sides agree on contract extensions as they negotiate on terms, he said, and any blackouts don't last long because TV operators get calls from outraged customers.

One prominent carriage fee fight in recent years was in 2004, between Viacom and EchoStar, the former name of Dish Network Corp. Shows were dropped for two days.

In October, Time Warner Cable wrestled with LIN TV Corp., which operates local TV stations affiliated with NBC, CBS, Fox and CW. But this time, Time Warner Cable faced Viacom, the largest cable programmer, not a small independent with a handful of channels.

The channels in the dispute were Comedy Central, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, VH1 Soul and CMT: Pure Country.

Viacom shares rose 88 cents, or 4.5 percent, to close at $20.12 on Wednesday, while Time Warner Cable shares fell 31 cents, or 1.4 percent, to $21.45.

___

AP Business Writer Deborah Yao in Philadelphia contributed to this report

[Myles]

I just want the fastest net for as cheap as possible. Comcast has DOCSIS 3.0 already implemented and is giving customers 50/20 connections from what i have been seeing. This is what i want.

None of you asshole providers give me that.

[T-Bag]

Their PPV HD sucks complete ass.

I've never had a problem at my house, but have seen problems at other places.

[Holeshot]

I just want the fastest net for as cheap as possible. Comcast has DOCSIS 3.0 already implemented and is giving customers 50/20 connections from what i have been seeing. This is what i want.

None of you asshole providers give me that.

That would be the cats ass so to speak :banana1: I would love that speed. :drool:

[domokun]

You just agreed with me in your post there...so why are you arguing against me? I said TWC is doing just fine (which they are) and they are doing a lot better than AT&T (which they are). So what do I not know then?

You are correct about TWC reaching more customers, but the fact of the matter is AT&T will never catch up to TWC due to its existing subscription base and how long its been around.

Time Warner's HD service is a lot better now, the only thing they don't have that anybody cares about is the NFL Network and Spike HD.


I kinda agreed

TWC cancel and churn rate TRIPLED in the past 2 months, whereas AT&T's cancel and churn rate cut IN HALF.... ( thats a HUGE diff )

this also put in consideration that TWC has 13millionish, vs AT&T's 1.3 million.

saying AT&T will NEVER catch up.... might want to bite your tongue on that ( not saying this to defend them..they just pay my bills ) ....once their is more of a consumer base...more dslams are put into place...once I/we test VDSL2 and pair bonding more, and releasing some other stuff that I can't let loose yet. just give it about 3-5 years we are shooting for 3m for before 2010, 7 for 2011 :)

but all I have to say...cable and satellite look out :)

and to the guys I talked to about testing things....check your PMs in about 3 weeks

[Rocket Power]

How come I can be in West Allis in 2009 and still not be able to get DSL? I'm not in flipping Crivitz or something:goof

[lordairgtar]

Seems I still have all my channels...........

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSBNG27125320090101
...and expect a nice big fat increase in your bill.

[DynoTom]

How come I can be in West Allis in 2009 and still not be able to get DSL? I'm not in flipping Crivitz or something:goof



I'm in Stallis ( not by choice ) and I have DSL from AT & T ......I wonder why you don't have it by you...Stallis is not that big of a city....

[lordairgtar]

How come I can be in West Allis in 2009 and still not be able to get DSL? I'm not in flipping Crivitz or something:goof
Crivitz probably has it:rolf

[Rocket Power]

I'm in Stallis ( not by choice ) and I have DSL from AT & T ......I wonder why you don't have it by you...Stallis is not that big of a city....

Beats me. I called TDS once and they said I was 400ft from being able to get it. Also ran my address last week through the AT&T site last week and they said no too. I'm like 10 blocks from hwy 100 so it's not like I'm in some weird part of the city

[domokun]

Beats me. I called TDS once and they said I was 400ft from being able to get it. Also ran my address last week through the AT&T site last week and they said no too. I'm like 10 blocks from hwy 100 so it's not like I'm in some weird part of the city


send me your address, if TDS said your only 400 feet I can do it ( TDS rents out lines ;) )

[Got Boost]

you obviously dont get telecommunications monthly that pretty much gives a break down of all the providers and there profits/loses/contracts...I seen this viacom deal coming awhile ago.

I love it when people THINK they know, when they DONT know :rolf

but on the flip side, is TWC keep their head above water? yes.... are they jacking up there prices more than everyone else? yup...

twc is slidding down slope. now Im not saying AT&T is on a huge climb either. cancel rate and churn rate have done down dramadicaly, and coming the new year with new budget we are hiring more for every dept to do more installs...more installs = more repairs across the boards. and opposite of that TWC's cancel and churn rate has went up. because of shit line this ( remember the LIN issue? ) shit customer service, techs not showing up, HD selection, cost. etc... ( again, Im not saying AT&T is god to any of these either, nor will I back them on some shit they do!!!! )

twc has more customers than AT&T, becuase TWC can reach more customers.

ill stay out of this now like chad stays out gas threads.
Thats why time warner is trying to sell their cable division:durr

[Moparjim]

For what it's worth, I have had nothing but great service from TWC. I have had their cable, Road Runner, and phone for 20 years, or as long as the products have been out. It always works, and works well. Anytime I have had a minor issue, they have come right out and fixed it. I have walked into any of their stores to upgrade equipment, etc. they just hand you another one no questions asked and little or no waiting time at their stores.

Is it expensive - yes. I haven't found the numerous offers I get in the mail from the competitors to be much cheaper though - not once the hook you in trial periods are over and you add all the taxes and fees and other shit just like Time Warner hits you with. For me, you get what you pay for and I haven't seen anything that much cheaper enough for me to change from something that I know works and works well and that I've had great service with.

[Ricky Bobby]

I kinda agreed

TWC cancel and churn rate TRIPLED in the past 2 months, whereas AT&T's cancel and churn rate cut IN HALF.... ( thats a HUGE diff )

this also put in consideration that TWC has 13millionish, vs AT&T's 1.3 million.

saying AT&T will NEVER catch up.... might want to bite your tongue on that ( not saying this to defend them..they just pay my bills ) ....once their is more of a consumer base...more dslams are put into place...once I/we test VDSL2 and pair bonding more, and releasing some other stuff that I can't let loose yet. just give it about 3-5 years we are shooting for 3m for before 2010, 7 for 2011 :)

but all I have to say...cable and satellite look out :)

and to the guys I talked to about testing things....check your PMs in about 3 weeks
take ur own advice if u dont know the facts quit talking, ive worked at twc for 5yrs so anything u want to debate id be glad to with u since ur magazine seems to know all, and for some of that churn might be because the economy right now SUX ASS but i guess that doesnt matter to u

[Ricky Bobby]

Thats why time warner is trying to sell their cable division:durri dont recall this please state ur facts plz:goof

[domokun]

i dont recall this please state ur facts plz:goof

someone is getting a lil fiesty

Im guessing your ja installer or tech support right? those are the guys that know the last of information :( sadly Ive been in that position and I would be protesting like you..thinking you know the facts

none of the companies are doing great by any margin, lets just leave it like that

some are going better, some are doing worse than the norm

[Ricky Bobby]

someone is getting a lil fiesty

Im guessing your ja installer or tech support right? those are the guys that know the last of information :( sadly Ive been in that position and I would be protesting like you..thinking you know the facts

none of the companies are doing great by any margin, lets just leave it like that

some are going better, some are doing worse than the normactually im an I/R2 which is the highest level of service tech there is except for the guys who work on the plant so plz dont insult me i take my job very serious :fire

[domokun]

I see that, as do I.... do you wear your hat backwards at work too? just curious :-p

[Ricky Bobby]

I see that, as do I.... do you wear your hat backwards at work too? just curious :-p

my work attitude and outside work attitude are completely different im not some ignorant kid who doesnt know how to tie my shoes and no i dont wear hats at work sorry.

so we will agree to disagree which is fine i just dont like when people bash my place of work i dont come on here bashing ur place of work, i understand people will have prob and if it was my way i wish i could help all immediately but thats not how this world is so im out.

[Got Boost]

i dont recall this please state ur facts plz:goof
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/145327/time_warner_to_sell_cable_division.html read and weep LOL

[Ricky Bobby]

ok genius, corp. wanted to seperate twc was never gonna change its name or sell it to someone like comcast or something like that so im gonna go weep now :thumbsup

[Myles]

such hate.

Im going to have to say tony has helped me a fuck ton when it comes to anything time warner. That alone makes time warner better than att, couple that with the fact that att has shit for net it looks like att loses.

[Ricky Bobby]

thanx myles sorry i couldnt make it for the new years party i fell asleep lol next time for sure :thumbsup

[lordairgtar]

actually im an I/R2 which is the highest level of service tech there is except for the guys who work on the plant so plz dont insult me i take my job very serious :fire
Does that mean you get to drive the truck?:goof:rolf

[wrath]

Does that mean you get to drive the truck?:goof:rolf

Not only that, but he gets to take it home! :wooo

[Ricky Bobby]

yes i get to take the truck home but right now mine is broke the rack is not right its drifting all over the road so im truckless right now

[Cjburn]

After leaving WI a couple years ago and getting the run around, customer service issues, and service shortcomings with my Comcast, I miss TWC. I never had a single problem with their installs, with getting my bill lowered to meet other introductory rates of other companies, or getting my bill paid (all problems I have had with ATT home/cell service).

[Got Boost]

I dont mind TWC just wish they had more HD channels .. In NYC they have almost 100 HD channels ....