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Slow Joe
11-25-2008, 01:03 PM
I found this interesing...


Ford, Chrysler and GM's contributions after 9/11

An interesting commentary...You might find this of interest:

'CNN Headline News did a short news listing regarding Ford and GM's contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York and Washington.

The findings are as follows.....

1. Ford- $10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the same number plus 10 Excursions to NY Fire Dept. The company also offered ER response ! team se rvices and office space to displaced government employees.

2. GM- $10 million to American Red Cross matching employee contributions of the sam e number and a fleet of vans, suv's, and trucks.

3. Daimler Chrysler- $10 million to support of the children and victims of the Sept. 11 attack.

4. Harley Davidson motorcycles- $1 million and 30 new motorcycles to the
New York Police Dept.

5. Volkswagen-Employ ees and management created a Sept 11 Foundation,
funded initial with $2 million, for the assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

6. Hyundai- $300,000 to the American Red Cross.

7. Audi-Nothing.

8. BMW-Nothing.

9. Daewoo- Nothing.

10. Fiat-Nothing.

11. Honda- Nothing despite boasting of second best sales month ever in
August 2001

12. Isuzu- Nothing.

13. Mitsubishi-Nothing.

14. Nissan-Nothing.

15. Porsche-Nothing. Press release with condolences via the Porsche website.

16. Subaru- Nothing.

17. Suzuki- Nothing.

18. Toyota-Nothing despite claims of high sales in July and August 2001.
Condolences posted on the website

Whenever the time may be for you to purchase or lease a new vehicle, keep this information in mind. You might want to give more consideration to a car manufactured by an American-owned and / or American based company. Apart from Hyundai and Volkswagen, the foreign car companies contributed nothing at all to the citizens of the United States ...

It's OK for these companies to take money out of this country, but it is apparently not acceptable to return some in a time of crisis. I believe we should not forget things like this. Say thank you in a way that gets their attention..

juicedimpss
11-25-2008, 01:11 PM
i bet they wish they still had those funds in their own bank.

Slow Joe
11-25-2008, 01:24 PM
IMO I'm sure that they're happier they did what they did... Now is when people need to start supporting companies that supported America... JMO...

07ROUSHSTG3
11-25-2008, 01:27 PM
IMO I'm sure that they're happier they did what they did... Now is when people need to start supporting companies that supported America... JMO...

i agree, i dont think that they would take the money back if given the choice.

neat to see HD on the list :thumbsup

Goat Roper
11-25-2008, 01:32 PM
I saw this in another chain letter yesterday and looked around then, as chain letters bring the cynic out.

Origins: The item quoted above detailing automobile companies' contributions to relief efforts following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S. originally began circulating on the Internet in October 2001 and gained renewed currency in November 2008 (as Congress was debating a $25 billion bailout plan for the Big Three U.S. automakers). At the time, we took on the information-gathering task of visiting the web sites of all the automobile manufacturers listed above (plus a few not on the list), looking for information about September 11-related relief efforts and reported our findings below.

Important points to keep in mind are:
• Our inability to locate information about charitable contributions on any particular manufacturer's web site did not necessarily mean that information did not exist on the web site.
• The lack of information about charitable contributions on any particular manufacturer's web site did not necessarily mean that the manufacturer made no such contributions.
• Manufacturers may also have made contributions above and beyond those listed on their web sites.
• We did not independently verify that the businesses listed herein actually made the stated contributions; we merely provided links to statements in which they reported that they had (or would be doing so).
• In every case where we were unable to find relevant information on a manufacturer's web site, we contacted the company through their web site and invited them to respond to this message.
________________________________________

• Aston Martin: No information found on web site. (In 2001 Aston Martin was owned by Ford; Ford sold its stake in the company in 2007.)
• Audi: Made a contribution of $100,000 to the New York Fire Fighters 9-11 Disaster Relief Fund and other fundraising efforts.
(Also see the entry for Volkswagen, as the Volkswagen Group includes Audi and Volkswagen in the United States.)
• BMW: Included a press release about BMW Group's donations of $1 million in cash and ten new BMW X5 Sports Activity Vehicles to the Red Cross for national relief efforts and 100 motorcycles to the New York Police Department.
• Daewoo: No information found on web site.
• DaimlerChrysler: Web site said they were committng $10 million to help children who have lost parents in terrorist attacks
• Fiat: No information found on web site.
• Ford: Included a detailed page about Ford's participation in the National Tragedy Relief Effort, including donations of $1 million each to the Red Cross and the Salvation Army and a program for matching all individual employee contributions.
• General Motors: Included GM Response to National Tragedy detailing General Motors' many contributions to organizations assisting September 11 victims, including donations of $1 million to the American Red Cross and 50 automobiles to the New York City Fire Department.
• Honda: A Honda Responds page listed contributions of $1.5 million to the United Way of New York's "September 11 Fund" and the American Red Cross.
• Hyundai/Kia: The Hyundai Cares page promised a $300,000 donation to the American Red Cross.
• Isuzu: No information found in Isuzu News section of web site. (A February 2002 press release stated that "Isuzu Motors America has donated $16,800 in corporate and employee contributions and is conducting further fund-raising efforts at its American Isuzu sales unit and at parent Isuzu Motors Ltd. in Japan.")
• Mitsubishi: A page entitled Contributions to Relief Efforts detailed Mitsubishi's contributions to September 11 programs, including $200,000 raised for the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund.
• Nissan: A "Nissan Responds to Nation's Tragedy" page on Nissan's web site announced their $1 million donation to the American Red Cross and the Twin Towers Fund and other forms of support the company and its employees had put forward.
• Porsche: Porsche has announced it would be donating 20% of the proceeds from its Drive for Hope Cross-Country Trek to the New York Firefighters 9-11 Disaster Relief Fund.
• Subaru: A Subaru in the Community page mentioned that Subaru and its parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd. in Japan, had made combined contributions of cash and equipment totalling approximately $1 million through the American Red Cross, Salvation Army, and other relief organizations.
• Suzuki: Opening page included a link to a page detailing their 9/11-related contributions, which included matching employees' contribution of $31,000 with $31,000 of their own and donating SUVs and ATVs at Ground Zero to aid rescue workers.
• Toyota: Toyota was the one automobile company that took the initiative of contacting us, even though we had not given any indication we would be writing about this topic. Their page about Toyota's Contributions to the Relief Effort detailed a $1 million donation to the American Red Cross and a program to match similar employee contributions.
• Volvo: Opening page of their construction equipment web site included a link (now inactive) to a letter to New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani offering the city the use of Volvo and Mack vehicles and equipment at the Volvo Group's expense. (Volvo automotive is now owned by Ford.)
• Volkswagen: Included a press release about VW's donation of 25 vans to the New York City Fire Department and another press release about the formation of a foundation to assist victims of terrorist attacks in the United States, which would be initially funded with $2 million from Volkswagen.

DynoTom
11-25-2008, 01:53 PM
i agree, i dont think that they would take the money back if given the choice.

neat to see HD on the list :thumbsup



HD had employees ride the bikes out to NY back then too....

Karps TA
11-25-2008, 02:01 PM
Am I the only one who wonders where all that money went to? When I see $30 mil just for the families and children affected by it, kinda makes me wonder a little. That's not even counting the millions that individuals gave thru the varied fund raises all over the place. Somehow I'd like to see and hear stories about how these people got the money.

My gut feeling is most didn't get jack crap

70 cutlass 442
11-25-2008, 04:38 PM
not to sound cold heared but 1. is it their resposibility to donate? i mean yeah it says a lot about a company when they to donate. 2. of all the companies listed, how many are owned or have direct working relations with the companies listed for donating, i can see like 4 just at a glance. 3. i dont even think daewoo was around in 01' still. and 4. People buy the imports becuase they are hands down a better quality vehicle.

Slow Joe
11-25-2008, 05:38 PM
Scott-

If your quote is from Snopes, then I just received this in an e-mail... :rolf Whoops :durr

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/automakers.asp


I saw this in another chain letter yesterday and looked around then, as chain letters bring the cynic out.

Origins: The item quoted above detailing automobile companies' contributions to relief efforts following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S. originally began circulating on the Internet in October 2001 and gained renewed currency in November 2008 (as Congress was debating a $25 billion bailout plan for the Big Three U.S. automakers). At the time, we took on the information-gathering task of visiting the web sites of all the automobile manufacturers listed above (plus a few not on the list), looking for information about September 11-related relief efforts and reported our findings below.

Important points to keep in mind are:
• Our inability to locate information about charitable contributions on any particular manufacturer's web site did not necessarily mean that information did not exist on the web site.
• The lack of information about charitable contributions on any particular manufacturer's web site did not necessarily mean that the manufacturer made no such contributions.
• Manufacturers may also have made contributions above and beyond those listed on their web sites.
• We did not independently verify that the businesses listed herein actually made the stated contributions; we merely provided links to statements in which they reported that they had (or would be doing so).
• In every case where we were unable to find relevant information on a manufacturer's web site, we contacted the company through their web site and invited them to respond to this message.
________________________________________

• Aston Martin: No information found on web site. (In 2001 Aston Martin was owned by Ford; Ford sold its stake in the company in 2007.)
• Audi: Made a contribution of $100,000 to the New York Fire Fighters 9-11 Disaster Relief Fund and other fundraising efforts.
(Also see the entry for Volkswagen, as the Volkswagen Group includes Audi and Volkswagen in the United States.)
• BMW: Included a press release about BMW Group's donations of $1 million in cash and ten new BMW X5 Sports Activity Vehicles to the Red Cross for national relief efforts and 100 motorcycles to the New York Police Department.
• Daewoo: No information found on web site.
• DaimlerChrysler: Web site said they were committng $10 million to help children who have lost parents in terrorist attacks
• Fiat: No information found on web site.
• Ford: Included a detailed page about Ford's participation in the National Tragedy Relief Effort, including donations of $1 million each to the Red Cross and the Salvation Army and a program for matching all individual employee contributions.
• General Motors: Included GM Response to National Tragedy detailing General Motors' many contributions to organizations assisting September 11 victims, including donations of $1 million to the American Red Cross and 50 automobiles to the New York City Fire Department.
• Honda: A Honda Responds page listed contributions of $1.5 million to the United Way of New York's "September 11 Fund" and the American Red Cross.
• Hyundai/Kia: The Hyundai Cares page promised a $300,000 donation to the American Red Cross.
• Isuzu: No information found in Isuzu News section of web site. (A February 2002 press release stated that "Isuzu Motors America has donated $16,800 in corporate and employee contributions and is conducting further fund-raising efforts at its American Isuzu sales unit and at parent Isuzu Motors Ltd. in Japan.")
• Mitsubishi: A page entitled Contributions to Relief Efforts detailed Mitsubishi's contributions to September 11 programs, including $200,000 raised for the Red Cross Disaster Relief Fund.
• Nissan: A "Nissan Responds to Nation's Tragedy" page on Nissan's web site announced their $1 million donation to the American Red Cross and the Twin Towers Fund and other forms of support the company and its employees had put forward.
• Porsche: Porsche has announced it would be donating 20% of the proceeds from its Drive for Hope Cross-Country Trek to the New York Firefighters 9-11 Disaster Relief Fund.
• Subaru: A Subaru in the Community page mentioned that Subaru and its parent company, Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd. in Japan, had made combined contributions of cash and equipment totalling approximately $1 million through the American Red Cross, Salvation Army, and other relief organizations.
• Suzuki: Opening page included a link to a page detailing their 9/11-related contributions, which included matching employees' contribution of $31,000 with $31,000 of their own and donating SUVs and ATVs at Ground Zero to aid rescue workers.
• Toyota: Toyota was the one automobile company that took the initiative of contacting us, even though we had not given any indication we would be writing about this topic. Their page about Toyota's Contributions to the Relief Effort detailed a $1 million donation to the American Red Cross and a program to match similar employee contributions.
• Volvo: Opening page of their construction equipment web site included a link (now inactive) to a letter to New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani offering the city the use of Volvo and Mack vehicles and equipment at the Volvo Group's expense. (Volvo automotive is now owned by Ford.)
• Volkswagen: Included a press release about VW's donation of 25 vans to the New York City Fire Department and another press release about the formation of a foundation to assist victims of terrorist attacks in the United States, which would be initially funded with $2 million from Volkswagen.

Goat Roper
11-25-2008, 06:52 PM
Scott-

If your quote is from Snopes, then I just received this in an e-mail... :rolf Whoops :durr

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/automakers.asp

Yeah, I looked around and a bunch of sites basically said the same things but theirs was more to the point. What I said was a bit vague, I got what YOU posted up in an email yesterday, not what I posted up. Sorry for the confusion.