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Big Boost
11-05-2008, 08:37 AM
He is offering a tax cut for WORKING people, not SLEAZY, LAZY people. This is Fact Check, a non-partisan group who tore apart both candidates campaign promises. I think the term welfare is being spouted without knowing the real terms.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_welfare.html

Nick
11-05-2008, 08:56 AM
Of course it's being thrown around. Hardly anyone in this country has a real education and knows nothing about economics or politics. They just go to the college of Sean Hannity on Faux News and spout off whatever he says.

I'm not surprised nor is it worth my effort to argue it.

Bart H
11-05-2008, 09:31 AM
Doesn't matter I will move to TEXAS when the crap hits the fan.

Crawlin
11-05-2008, 11:56 AM
Either way, that money comes from taxing businesses that provide the goods/services that the fiscally challenged people need. Which means higher prices for those goods/services. And then again, the complaints will start since those with the money will keep it to protect their wealth and not spend it to boost the economy.

I've already talked to 15 business owners just through MY dealership in the last week, that are holding off on purchasing a car to see how their tax plans will be for next year. Something as small and simple as a car purchase being put on hold?

Sure, that welfare for the working is great. BUT since a majority of those sleazy/lazy people can't comprehend even the simplest thing, they voted expecting a handout and will now come to realize the truth. Which will throw this economy even deeper trouble.

But don't worry, they'll just look back 3 years from now and say it was on a downward trend and it's bush's fault and obama needs more than 3 years to help it come back up.

HAMRHEAD
11-05-2008, 12:08 PM
But don't worry, they'll just look back 3 years from now and say it was on a downward trend and it's bush's fault and obama needs more than 3 years to help it come back up.

Agree 100% :thumbsup

johnny--2k
11-05-2008, 12:25 PM
Sure, that welfare for the working is great. BUT since a majority of those sleazy/lazy people can't comprehend even the simplest thing, they voted expecting a handout and will now come to realize the truth. Which will throw this economy even deeper trouble.

But don't worry, they'll just look back 3 years from now and say it was on a downward trend and it's bush's fault and obama needs more than 3 years to help it come back up.

AMEN TO THAT!! :thumbsup

BTW, is your quoting me a good thing or bad? :durr

subliminal1284
11-05-2008, 01:02 PM
I agree with that also and I was for Obama

Alot of the low life ghetto people are in for a wake up call when they realize Obama isnt offering them more welfare and if they want more welfare they will have to resort to doing it the old fashioned way by popping out more kids.

micro_machine
11-05-2008, 01:09 PM
When you guys say sleazy/lazy/ghetto people do you guys refer to all ethnic groups or just minority's? j/w

GTSLOW
11-05-2008, 01:13 PM
When you guys say sleazy/lazy/ghetto people do you guys refer to all ethnic groups or just minority's? j/w

Honestly are we going to start this again? Or is this BEESTWIN on someone else's account???

Goat Roper
11-05-2008, 01:14 PM
I've already talked to 15 business owners just through MY dealership in the last week, that are holding off on purchasing a car to see how their tax plans will be for next year. Something as small and simple as a car purchase being put on hold?

To rely on a tax law that was enacted to be a short-term 5 year deal to be around forever and to not plan around it is just bad business.

Crawlin
11-05-2008, 01:22 PM
Tell that to them. I understand what you are saying, but with this economic down turn, business profitability has taken a loss, so now what was once a promising landscape, has everyone on edge. It's not the "plan around it". It's the fear of the unknown. How bad CAN it get. Not saying it WILL get there. That was there concern. Because most of the people I talk to are actually NICE people, they are waiting to see how the things that affect them most(just overall overhead cost), are gonna play out. It's my fault for focusing on just ONE thing and posting it. Not a cool thing for these people in their mind to show up in a new $40k Jeep Grand Cherokee and then layoff 5 workers. Know what I mean?

It's not a double, i recognize that scream name from before.

Hey Micro, no where did anyone say GHETTO except for you? Stop making it a race thing.

And Johnny, it's a good thing I quoted you. It's just amazing how that pattern can exist. People probably just believe it's a fluke though

Prince Valiant
11-05-2008, 01:49 PM
And then again, the complaints will start since those with the money will keep it to protect their wealth and not spend it to boost the economy.This is so true...instead of focusing on productivity with their money, they'll simply focus on protection.

This will result in 1) less jobs from their investements/activities and 2) less in taxes as their money find LEGAL shelters.

So then it'll be that we need to go after the NEXT rung on the income ladder (or 5) to generate the tax revenue needed for "change" :rolleyes:

micro_machine
11-05-2008, 01:59 PM
Honestly are we going to start this again? Or is this BEESTWIN on someone else's account???

Im not making it and racist issue and if i wanted to i would've reply to obama post earlier in the other threads.

Well in all honesty you guys should be more clear when you guys say ghetto sleazy lazy people. Say all not just sleazy/lazy/ghetto people in terms this is meant towards minority groups because of our higher percentage are unemployed. Remember there is ghetto/lazy/sleazy as in the hoods and ghetto/lazy/sleazy as in the trailer parks.:thumbsup

Crawlin- My question was you guys not just you.:thumbsup

Btw- This is not beestwin. I mean I saw what you post before in the other threads nice way to put thing im not even going to start jeep dude.:banana1:

out of here peace out side woooyeaaaaaaaaa OBAMA and BIDEN ROCK.

subliminal1284
11-05-2008, 02:18 PM
It refers to all low life ghetto people, White Trash and Hood Rats alike.

jbiscuit
11-05-2008, 02:36 PM
you guys see that the DOW tumbled today also due to economic nervousness surrounding Obama getting elected?

70 cutlass 442
11-05-2008, 03:01 PM
Im not making it and racist issue and if i wanted to i would've reply to obama post earlier in the other threads.

Well in all honesty you guys should be more clear when you guys say ghetto sleazy lazy people. Say all not just sleazy/lazy/ghetto people in terms this is meant towards minority groups because of our higher percentage are unemployed. Remember there is ghetto/lazy/sleazy as in the hoods and ghetto/lazy/sleazy as in the trailer parks.:thumbsup

Crawlin- My question was you guys not just you.:thumbsup

Btw- This is not beestwin. I mean I saw what you post before in the other threads nice way to put thing im not even going to start jeep dude.:banana1:

out of here peace out side woooyeaaaaaaaaa OBAMA and BIDEN ROCK.


are you ******* stupid, how much more celar can SLEAZY/LAZY/GHETO be? YOU are the one taking offense to it, where does it say BLACK, MEXICAN, ASIAN, or WHITE for that matter anywhere in his post? demographically speaking there are more blacks and mexicans in the LAZY GHETO but there are plenty of POS whites to, take a trip to iowa where their government checks are spent on meth... same concept. I suggust you stop looking at this from a black/white point of view becuase if you dont you will always be offended. I voted for mccain because the idea of a socialistic government is WRONG. Not because hes half black or W/E

ND4SPD
11-05-2008, 03:34 PM
People need to get over the thought that black people are one big monolithic entity. The middle-class black person has a lot more in common these days with middle-class whites, than they do with lower-class blacks. Likewise, lower-class whites have more in common with lower class blacks, hispanics, etc...

HAMRHEAD
11-05-2008, 03:59 PM
Some people just like a racial fight because all other logic escapes them. So they feel the need to make things racial. Obama is an ass even if he was green! All races have their sleazy , lazy, people that live in the ghetto. I feel bad for the dumbasses who think they will no longer have to pay their mortgage.

Cryptic
11-05-2008, 05:59 PM
hood or trailer park... same sh!t different pile