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SlowStee
11-03-2008, 04:21 PM
Don't know if this is a repost, but its funny!


http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=91146600614&oid=94486530456&ref=nf

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 05:03 PM
Palin is a joke. I wish everyone could see through the bs

SlowStee
11-03-2008, 05:09 PM
Obama is a joke. I wish everyone could see through the bs

Yeah I feel the same way :stare

michelle
11-03-2008, 05:14 PM
Well he's pretty passionate.

Rocket Power
11-03-2008, 05:25 PM
Palin is a joke. I wish everyone could see through the bs

Biden is bigger joke, that guy can hardly go a week without saying something stupid.

subliminal1284
11-03-2008, 05:39 PM
They both are lying sacks of shit, but Obama is getting my vote this year mainly because the idea of someone as much as an airhead as Palin being president scares the shit out of me.

SSDude
11-03-2008, 05:40 PM
Check it out. http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.html

Governor Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office. As the 11th governor of Alaska, she is the first woman to hold the office.

Since taking office, her top priorities have been resource development, education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development.

Under her leadership, Alaska invested $5 billion in state savings, overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits Program that provides support for low-income older Alaskans. She created Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to provide oversight and maintenance of oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.

During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration passed two major pieces of legislation – an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws and a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline.

Governor Palin is chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment. She was recently named chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee, which is charged with pursuing legislation to ensure state needs are considered as federal policy is formulated in the areas of agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management. Prior to being named to this position, she served as co-chair of this committee.

Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.


She has served as chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska's most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She was elected by her peers to serve as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska's communities.


Sarah Heath Palin arrived in Alaska with her family in 1964, when her parents came to teach school in Skagway. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987. Palin, who graduated from Wasilla High School in 1982, has lived in Skagway, Eagle River and Wasilla.

She is married to Todd Palin, who is a lifelong Alaskan, a production operator on the North Slope and a four-time champion of the Iron Dog, the world's longest snowmachine race.

Todd and Sarah fish in Bristol Bay with their children – Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig. Through Todd’s Yup'ik grandmother, Alaska’s Native heritage plays an important role in their family. Track enlisted in the U.S. Army on Sept. 11, 2007.

Prior to taking office, Palin served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the state. She was active in her family’s pursuits – including serving as a sports team mom and school volunteer. She also runs marathons.

Palin is a lifetime member of the NRA and enjoys hunting, fishing, Alaska history, and all that Alaska's great outdoors has to offer.

She's done a hell of a lot more than community organizer.
Some people have a problem with women who are successful.:alcoholic

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 05:40 PM
I hope you are kidding? At least Biden is an intelligent man with experience and doesnt need to be coached before debates. Palin has 0 experience, and as uneloquent as you can get. She does not act like a professional politician, she is a setback to all women who want equallity in the gov.

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 05:43 PM
Check it out. http://gov.state.ak.us/bio.html


She's done a hell of a lot more than community organizer.
Some people have a problem with women who are successful.:alcoholic

HAHAHAHAHAHA:rolf that has to be a joke right? Palin was not picked for her knowledge and experience she was picked for her vag. That was a slap to the face for all the intelligent women of this country and set women back.

michelle
11-03-2008, 05:46 PM
I hope you are kidding? At least Biden is an intelligent man with experience and doesnt need to be coached before debates. Palin has 0 experience, and as uneloquent as you can get. She does not act like a professional politician, she is a setback to all women who want equallity in the gov.

I also can't agree with a woman who doesn't believe in pro-choice. She can have all the kids she wants, but when a woman is raped and ends up pregnant, they should be able to make that choice for themselves.

I try my best not to get involved in political conversations and I have done a pretty good job of that this year, but sometimes I just need to say something.

SSDude
11-03-2008, 05:46 PM
I hope you are kidding? At least Biden is an intelligent man with experience and doesnt need to be coached before debates. Palin has 0 experience, and as uneloquent as you can get. She does not act like a professional politician, she is a setback to all women who want equallity in the gov.

You've got to be kidding. Biden is constantly putting his foot in his mouth. His intelligence is quite debatable as he has done nothing as a senator. J
ust another piece of furniture in Washington. Kind of like Herb Kohl except he doesn't embarrass himself.

FYI Palin kept him on the ropes through out the whole debate.

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 05:51 PM
You've got to be kidding. Biden is constantly putting his foot in his mouth. His intelligence is quite debatable as he has done nothing as a senator. J
ust another piece of furniture in Washington. Kind of like Herb Kohl except he doesn't embarrass himself.

FYI Palin kept him on the ropes through out the whole debate.

You have to be a complete fool if you think Palin got the better of Biden. Biden was as reserved as he could have been, if Biden went hard at her she would have shown the world what a dumbass she is......he was smart enough not to to avoid being called a sexist.

johnny--2k
11-03-2008, 05:52 PM
I dont care about the "what if's" for the VP. My main concern is the person running the show now (or soon) because chances are whatever they do, the VP will follow in their footsteps.

Obama scares the crap out of me, period.

I will say Palin is not the brightest crayon in the box, but she's got more experience than obama, and I think she could be a great VP if she took some time to get her shit together.

I think Biden is an ass and completely unoriginal. There is a reason he ran for president TWICE and didn't get far....


Biden announced his candidacy in June 1987, and was considered one of the potentially strongest candidates in the field. However, in September 1987, he was hit with charges of plagiarizing a speech by British politician Neil Kinnock. Other allegations of past law school plagiarism and exaggerating his academic record soon followed. Biden withdrew from the race later that month.



You really want this guy ^ to potentially run our country of 300,000,000 people? I think not!

The problem is the media focusing too much on Palins mistakes. No one is perfect, but I'd rather have someone who is imperfect than someone who is an imbecile.

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 05:54 PM
I also can't agree with a woman who doesn't believe in pro-choice. She can have all the kids she wants, but when a woman is raped and ends up pregnant, they should be able to make that choice for themselves.

I try my best not to get involved in political conversations and I have done a pretty good job of that this year, but sometimes I just need to say something.

I agree, republicans talk about how socialism is to be feared and taking $ form the top 5% of citizens is socialist and the Gov is getting too involved, yet they want the gov to decide what a women does with her own body and who marries who, ect. That sounds like alot of gov involvement, I.E socialism to me.

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 05:58 PM
I dont care about the "what if's" for the VP. My main concern is the person running the show now (or soon) because chances are whatever they do, the VP will follow in their footsteps.

Obama scares the crap out of me, period.

I will say Palin is not the brightest crayon in the box, but she's got more experience than obama, and I think she could be a great VP if she took some time to get her shit together.
I think Biden is an ass and completely unoriginal. There is a reason he ran for president TWICE and didn't get far....



You really want this guy ^ to potentially run our country of 300,000,000 people? I think not!

The problem is the media focusing too much on Palins mistakes. No one is perfect, but I'd rather have someone who is imperfect than someone who is an imbecile.

You cant fix stupid no matter how much coaching you give someone. Palin has no experience, she was the mayor of a tiny ass town then gov of freaking Alaska. BTW nobody is perfect, but Palins mistakes are derived from her stupidity.

SSDude
11-03-2008, 05:58 PM
I agree, republicans talk about how socialism is to be feared and taking $ form the top 5% of citizens is socialist and the Gov is getting too involved, yet they want the gov to decide what a women does with her own body and who marries who, ect. That sounds like alot of gov involvement, I.E socialism to me.

Your mom chose life. :thumbsup

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 05:59 PM
Your mom chose life. :thumbsup

Yeah and Im happy for that:D But if she didnt then I wouldnt have know anyways.

subliminal1284
11-03-2008, 06:06 PM
Yeah democrats are the socialists, I mean it wasnt the bush administration who made the whole border line communist patriot act up that let them do pretty much anything they want without having to answer for it.

SSDude
11-03-2008, 06:07 PM
You cant fix stupid no matter how much coaching you give someone. Palin has no experience, she was the mayor of a tiny ass town then gov of freaking Alaska. BTW nobody is perfect, but Palins mistakes are derived from her stupidity.

Why the name calling? What do you base your claim of "stupid" on? try some facts instead of ranting.

When i look at resume's i look for past experience and the ability to rise to the challenge as a leader. Sarah Palin has risen to the role of leadership and has cleaned up many things wrong with Alaska's government.
Something Washington sorely needs.
Biden has done nothing!
Obama has voted "present"

johnny--2k
11-03-2008, 06:14 PM
You cant fix stupid no matter how much coaching you give someone. Palin has no experience, she was the mayor of a tiny ass town then gov of freaking Alaska. BTW nobody is perfect, but Palins mistakes are derived from her stupidity.


Refer to post by SSDude. And what exactly qualifies Obama for experience?

Palin has held a political position since 1992. Obama has held a political position since 1997. 5 years of experience is quite a bit.....

BTW, Alaska has the 6th highest median income in the country and the 7th highest Gross State Product. It's no puny little deal.

Karps TA
11-03-2008, 06:21 PM
Wait the Alaska gov website has nice things to say about the governor of the State? That's odd. That's the last place I would expect a biased opinion.

Hmmm, I wonder if I check the WI.gov site if they say any great things about Doyle. Why whatdya know his biography on the website is glowing about him as well
http://www.wisgov.state.wi.us/section.asp?linkid=87&locid=19

Weird.

She won cause she's the only good looking woman in the State of Alaska. Before that it was Jewel and even she had snaggle teeth.

Picture Palin giving a great Republican speech like Reagan.
"Ya know we welcome change and openness like any maverick; for we believe that freedom and security go together, that the advance of human liberty for guys like Joe Sixpack, and Bob the Builder, and Ivan the Butcher can only strengthen the cause of world peace. You betcha the is one sign the Soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of those kinda things like freedom and peace. General Secretary Gorbachev, I see you out my window everday, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and eastern Europe, and all them der hockey moms living over der if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. Gosh Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this darn wall why don't cha?"

Shudder. I'd rather live thru 4 years of BS and unsuccessful programs then have that nitwit in the office. And if the Republicans are smart they bury her after this election deeper then the Dems buried Ferraro after thier huge loss.

johnny--2k
11-03-2008, 06:40 PM
The problem is it's not going to be 4 years of BS and unsuccessful programs. The crap that he wants to put through will most likely go through, and that's what scares me. If I knew that the garbage plans that Obama has in mind would have a snowballs chance in hell, I wouldnt care, but it's the fact that his plans have more of an icecubes chance in the north pole that scares me.

Shit, the senate is split 49/49 Dem and Rep.


If Democrat Barack Obama becomes president, larger Democratic majorities in the House and Senate could be key to swiftly implementing his legislative agenda, including withdrawing U.S. combat troops from Iraq and implementing health care reform.


http://voanews.com/english/2008-11-03-voa57.cfm

Karps TA
11-03-2008, 06:51 PM
Well can someone please tell me what the Republicans got thru from 2000-2006 when they had control?

All I hear is be scared of the Dems if they get control. But beside the craptastic no child left behind program I don't recall Utopia.

I for one have ZERO problem with removing troops from Iraq and there needs to be some kind of health care reform. Not govt healthcare, but the pricing of alot of healthcare is ridiculous cause too many hands are in the pot. And since I likely will never make more then $150K a year I doubt I'll ever be considered rich, however I do understand the the deficit is awfully high and without more taxes AND less spending it'll never get fixed. Maybe he won't spend less, but the last 8 years haven't been the model of fiscal responsibility that I grew up voting Republican for.

That all said, I'm not voting for either. I however don't see the Dems as any better or worse the the Reps. They suck equally in my eyes and the 2 of them combine to be everything wrong in this country and exactly what the founding fathers did not want. I just get tired of the constant lame rhetoric that the Republicans are like the Obi Wan of the US and they are our only hope.

I'm going to take a wild ass guess here and expect to wake up Nov 5th and go to work like any other day. Sky will still be blue, the govt will still be corrupt and not give a damn about me, and people in the country will soon be back to caring more about American idol.

johnny--2k
11-03-2008, 07:01 PM
Oh, believe me, I'm not praising the Reps either, I agree completely that they are both the wrong choice, but which one is the better choice is the real question.

Honestly, 300 million people, and these are the best two we could come up with?

Karps TA
11-03-2008, 07:40 PM
Honestly, 300 million people, and these are the best two we could come up with?

That's exactly it. But smart people stay in the private sector where they can make money. Egomaniacs want to become President. What person in their right mind would want that job? I'd rather push a broom.

SSDude
11-03-2008, 07:46 PM
Egomaniac hell try narcissist.
Interesting read, kinda long though.
Got this from a friend.



I try to check these things out before forwarding them. This one is
true. You can Google Dr. Sam Vaknin and get the same information. This
is the most frightning one yet. Maybe because it is more clinical than
political...


Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer

By Ali Sina



I must confess, I was not impressed by Sen. Barack Obama from the first
time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He
looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident, a wholesome
presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his
shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his
demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were
louder than his empty words. Obama's speeches are unlike any political
speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this
land had such a quasi "religious" impact on so many people. The fact
that Obama is a total incognito with zero accomplishment makes this
inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is
not a genius. In fact, he is quite ignorant on most important subjects.
Barack Obama is a narcissist. Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of "Malignant
Self Love," also believes, "Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist."



Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands it and
describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he
talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama's
language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest,
nearest and dearest suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or
he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).



Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim
Jones, the charismatic leader of People's Temple, the man who led over
900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder
their own children was also a narcissist. Charles Manson, Joseph Koni,
Shoko Asahara, Joe Stalin, Saddam, Mao Zedong, Kim Jong IL, and Adolph
Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had
a tremendous influence over their fanciers and followers. They created a
personality cult around themselves, and with their blazing speeches
elevated their admirer's souls, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and
instilled in their minds a new zest for life. Those men gave their
followers hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, they invariably
brought them to their doom. When you are a victim of a cult of
personality, you don't know it until it is too late.



One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse.
"Obama's early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and
mentally bruising dislocations," says Vaknin. "Mixed-race marriages were
even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an
infant (two years old). Obama saw his father only once again, before he
died in a car accident. His mother re-married and Obama had to relocate
to Indonesia, a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be
raised by a stepfather. He was raised as an only child, full of himself
and no others. He never had to share the spotlight with any siblings. At
the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white)
grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few
years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in
1995."



One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological
narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it
overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist,
people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and
delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around him
and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of
personality; his admirers become his co-dependents.



Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach
their personal objectives. They are focused on one thing alone, and that
is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want
to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not
help them is beneath them and does not deserve their attention. If an
issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he
has no interest in it. The "Present" vote is a safe vote; he used the
"Present" all the time as a member of the Illinois legislature. No one
can criticize him if things go wrong. Why should he implicate himself in
issues that may become controversial when they don't help him
personally? Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they
are not about him.



Obama's election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review
led to a contract and an advance to write a book about race relations.
The University of Chicago Law School provided him with a fellowship and
an office to work on his book. The book took him a lot longer than
expected and at the end it devolved into..., guess what? His own
autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race
relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing
about his most sublime self. He entitled the book "Dreams from My
Father."



Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he
was still nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as
important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and
genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such
an august being as himself? Narcissists are often callous and even
ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from
Obama's lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar
per month. A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to
vacation in Hawaii, and who has raised nearly a half billion dollars for
his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the
plight of his own brother. Why? His brother cannot be used for his
ascent to power. A narcissist cares for no one but himself.



This election is like no other election in the history of America. The
issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more
dangerous than having a man bereft of a conscience, a serial liar, and
one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of
the free world?



I hate to sound alarmist, but one must be a fool if one is not alarmed.
Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They
are simply self-serving and selfish. [Witness Al Gore's Income Tax; it
reveals that he gave away NO MONEY to charities, not even to a church!]
Obama evinces symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different
from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or Bill Clinton,
for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a
mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists
are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this
disguise that makes them treacherous. [Look up the word 'treachery.']



Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man
could put an end to their party [and to this great nation]. The great
majority of blacks have also decided to vote for Obama. Only a fool does
not know that their support for him is racially driven.



Let us call a spade a spade [No pun intended]. This is racism, pure and
simple. The truth is that, while everyone carries a misconceived
collective guilt towards blacks for wrongs done centuries ago by a
bygone people to a bygone people, the blacks carry a collective rancor,
enmity or vendetta towards non-blacks, and to this day want to "stand
up" to the white man. They seem to be stuck in 19th century [encouraged
by race baiters like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and others].



The downside of this is, that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I
predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites. The
blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic
mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads
deeper in the sand and blame Obama's detractors of racism. This will
cause a backlash among the whites. The white supremacists will take
advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I
predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to
levels not seen since the turbulent 1960s. Obama will set the clock back
decades. Americais the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world
depends on the strength of America, and its weakness translates into the
triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations. It is no wonder that
Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Maoist Castroists, the Hezbollah, the
Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn
enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of "their man" in the
White House. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no
insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president

STANMAN
11-03-2008, 08:35 PM
McCain is like the ANTI narcacist then, I mean he made sure everyone was out of the hanoi hilton before him, even when they were willing to let him go, he made sure others were released before him. Get out and vote tomorrow people, don't let this slimy used car salesman who's never done shit for this country beat a real life HERO for Christs sake!!

1BadBytch
11-03-2008, 08:50 PM
They both are lying sacks of shit, but Obama is getting my vote this year mainly because the idea of someone as much as an airhead as Palin being president scares the shit out of me.


exaaaactly .:thumbsup

Berettaspeed
11-03-2008, 08:51 PM
Im the voter against Obama. Mc Cain is the better of the 2 choices is easy to see. this obama is going to ruin us. you can look at what you need now you have to see what everyone needs the hell with the little petty shit people cry about. there is a much greater problem and obama is using short trem quick fixes that will leave our ass in the dust. he is targeting the peopel who believe in fairy tales that want that magical change right now. and too bad people are falling for that. wake up and realize the real world we are in. In the end its up to US to get our selfs our of this hole. neither canidate will create a magical change. one is acting as though he can create a magical change with ideas that you cant do in this situation. you just cant.

Rocket Power
11-03-2008, 09:02 PM
I hope you are kidding? At least Biden is an intelligent man with experience and doesnt need to be coached before debates. Palin has 0 experience, and as uneloquent as you can get. She does not act like a professional politician, she is a setback to all women who want equallity in the gov.
Yeah Biden is so intelligent he plagiarized a speech. They complained about lobbyists when his kid was a lobbyist, until it got to hot for dad.
That's a hell of a set back, she was mayor then governor. Yeah what woman would want that?
Not a professional politician ,eh? I thought you Obama people wanted change? But I guess professional politicians are change now.

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 09:33 PM
Why the name calling? What do you base your claim of "stupid" on? try some facts instead of ranting.

When i look at resume's i look for past experience and the ability to rise to the challenge as a leader. Sarah Palin has risen to the role of leadership and has cleaned up many things wrong with Alaska's government.
Something Washington sorely needs.
Biden has done nothing!
Obama has voted "present"

Facts that support my claim of Palin being Stupid (in her own words;))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gkPXSDtGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75QSExE0jU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58d1HBGaegY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg&feature=related

This about sums it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 09:37 PM
Yeah Biden is so intelligent he plagiarized a speech. They complained about lobbyists when his kid was a lobbyist, until it got to hot for dad.
That's a hell of a set back, she was mayor then governor. Yeah what woman would want that? Not a professional politician ,eh? I thought you Obama people wanted change? But I guess professional politicians are change now.

Its the fact that she was picked for her looks and vag not her mind and experience. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can see through McCain as to why he really picked her. Her stupid miss beauty pagent hockey mom cookie making uneducated accent facade is also setting her back because nobody can take her seriously.....on the flipside at least Hillary was smart,strong willed,professional, and experienced.

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 10:14 PM
BTW Joe the Plumber is a joke....he is an example of the "average working class guy", but one who is uninformed. He made $40,000 last year and is worried about Obamas "socialist" tax plans........if he did any bit of research he would realize only the top 5% are affected, which he clearly isnt-so Obamas plan would actually help him. He also doesnt hold a valid plumbers license;)

Rocket Power
11-03-2008, 10:43 PM
That top 5 % is sliding down, now Obama is saying $200k for 250 and biden said $150K.

Rocket Power
11-03-2008, 10:48 PM
Uneducated accent? Like that Hick from Arkansas we had for 8 years? He needed to pick someone conservative to shore up the based who was very ho hum about him. She is a conservative, Mitt had his religion against him, Hucleberry was a taxer. The only other one I heard anything serious about was the dude who's gov of MN.

I am sure the Dem congress and Obama will tax us back to the right track and everything will be peachy again. Smells like late 70's to me and that was a great time:rolleyes:

Silver03SRT
11-03-2008, 11:05 PM
I dont really like either of them. I am picking the better of the two and that is McCain. He is a true American. I dont trust Obama as far as I can throw him.

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 11:13 PM
^^^why is McCain a "true" American? Because he is a republican with "morals" and is a rich out of touch old man?

mynameismike65
11-03-2008, 11:18 PM
Uneducated accent? Like that Hick from Arkansas we had for 8 years? He needed to pick someone conservative to shore up the based who was very ho hum about him. She is a conservative, Mitt had his religion against him, Hucleberry was a taxer. The only other one I heard anything serious about was the dude who's gov of MN.

I am sure the Dem congress and Obama will tax us back to the right track and everything will be peachy again. Smells like late 70's to me and that was a great time:rolleyes:

The hick from Arkansas could back up his accent with intelligence and experience, Palin cant do either. Also your saying there isnt ANY other conservative in the entire US gov that he could have picked besides Palin? The republican party should be the last group to give out potential prospects of the future economy if Obama is elected, considering the fantastic economic place Bush put us in today:thumbsup

70 cutlass 442
11-04-2008, 12:14 AM
I also can't agree with a woman who doesn't believe in pro-choice. She can have all the kids she wants, but when a woman is raped and ends up pregnant, they should be able to make that choice for themselves.

I try my best not to get involved in political conversations and I have done a pretty good job of that this year, but sometimes I just need to say something.

look at thoe whole picture then.... the ass hole who raped the girl is probably some peice of shit who is living off of our tax money and with obamas idea of "sharing the wealth" then this man will get richer... sooo think about that one for a second.

STANMAN
11-04-2008, 12:14 AM
^^^why is McCain a "true" American? Because he is a republican with "morals" and is a rich out of touch old man?

Morals and being rich are bad things?? I guess your candidate is only 1/2 bad, as he is lacking the morals side, he definatly has the rich thing down pat though, he's raised more cash than any candidate, ever.

He's a true American because he put others before himself in a horrid sitaution that none of us could even imagine. All's he cared about was making sure everyone else got out before he did. All Obama cares about is himself, these two are like polar opposites when it comes to being "true Americans".

70 cutlass 442
11-04-2008, 12:19 AM
^^^why is McCain a "true" American? Because he is a republican with "morals" and is a rich out of touch old man?

Will somebody get this guy a TV. Obama Has NEVER gotten a paycheck that wasnt form the US government in his entire life, His ILLEAGLE realitives are donating ot his campang when they are collecting money from our government, he wants to BANKRUPT the coal industry.... That sounds like a true american :rolleyes: but never mind mccain, i mean actually serving our county has nothing to do with being a real american or being a POW has nothing to do with it...... Hell, you sound like someone who would vote for Castro before mccain..

mynameismike65
11-04-2008, 12:23 AM
^^^You cant compare McCains experience as a pow to being a worthy president. McCain could give a rats ass for the working class/middle class people of the US, he is a republican who cares about profits and big business, thats what the republican party is all about;) BTW Just because McCain has "morals" and is against gay marrage and pro choice he is automatically a good honest guy? You would think that those priests who raped those little boys had morals considering they were men of god, but being a church going morally just person doesnt mean shit in todays day and age.

mynameismike65
11-04-2008, 12:25 AM
GTFO McCains POW story, he enlisted in the military and his plane got shot down, its perks of the job. Thats like praising a firefighter for entering a burning building to save a child and he gets burned, yeah it sucks but you know the risks when signing up;)

mynameismike65
11-04-2008, 12:27 AM
Will somebody get this guy a TV. Obama Has NEVER gotten a paycheck that wasnt form the US government in his entire life, His ILLEAGLE realitives are donating ot his campang when they are collecting money from our government, he wants to BANKRUPT the coal industry.... That sounds like a true american :rolleyes: but never mind mccain, i mean actually serving our county has nothing to do with being a real american or being a POW has nothing to do with it...... Hell, you sound like someone who would vote for Castro before mccain..

No I just lost all respect and faith in the republican party after Bushes 8 years, so why would I vote for Bush version 1.5?

WickedSix
11-04-2008, 01:19 AM
I am pro-life and pro-choice....but the choice is way back when they Fu(k someone....see thats how them darn unwanted babies are made donchaknow... rape and incest of course are the acception as no one should have to bear the fruit of the crime against them should they wish.

but partial birth abortion is just an outrage...murders have done less gruesome things

HAMRHEAD
11-04-2008, 02:37 AM
GTFO McCains POW story, he enlisted in the military and his plane got shot down, its perks of the job. Thats like praising a firefighter for entering a burning building to save a child and he gets burned, yeah it sucks but you know the risks when signing up;)

Bitching about politics is one thing but that is statement is one of the ******* dumbest things I've ever read on here. So if Biden or Obama get blown away you gonna make the same stupid comment? After all isn't assassination a perk of presidency? I can't stand Obama but would never say shit like that if something happened to him. And to think that Palin or Biden would make good presidents makes no sense either way. Luckily the vote is between McCain and Obama. McCain is clearly more qualified.

SSDude
11-04-2008, 05:46 AM
Facts that support my claim of Palin being Stupid (in her own words;))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gkPXSDtGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z75QSExE0jU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58d1HBGaegY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg&feature=related

This about sums it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6urw_PWHYk

Weak Sauce

Yooformula
11-04-2008, 07:13 AM
time to lock. you want to make your voice heard. go vote!