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Korndogg
10-01-2008, 06:34 PM
http://www.leftlanenews.com/claim-porsche-accuses-nissan-of-exaggerating-gt-r-lap-time.html

The GT-R posted a 7.29 lap time at the Nurburgring a few months ago and it was only topped by the ZR1 Vette. Anyways, porsche didn't believe them, bought their own GT-R and tested it and don't see how it's possible

:rolf
70challenger452
10-01-2008, 06:54 PM
that's much more belivable. After seeing the Z06 take it out in a drag race I had my doubts that the GT-R could beat the lighter Z06 on a road coarse. There was no way the GT-R could even come close to the ZR1.
Korndogg
10-01-2008, 06:56 PM
I just think its funny that porche was like wtf are you talking about? and went and bought one
shoooo32
10-01-2008, 07:42 PM
no one beats ze Germans! Classic Porsche. :D
T-Bag
10-01-2008, 07:47 PM
Rumour has it that nissan may have been using race tires instead of the stock tires that come on the car. Porche was using stock tires...although I would imagine they are pretty sticky in themselves.
shoooo32
10-01-2008, 07:54 PM
Rumour has it that nissan may have been using race tires instead of the stock tires that come on the car. Porche was using stock tires...although I would imagine they are pretty sticky in themselves.

26 seconds faster??? I think Nissan sent in a ringer. PR nightmare either way.
GTSLOW
10-01-2008, 08:33 PM
So where's nick in defense? :goof
nismodave
10-01-2008, 08:48 PM
Sour Grapes.

I dont trust those Kraut eaters.

How come ever other test....Not at the Ring, the GTR beats the Porsches every time??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZGjh2otRB0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tnUlxANbWs

5 seconds a lap quicker than 911 or z06... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX6T39GV8Cg

Need I go on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLdAgIe1sSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gRaO69vfuU
Russ Jerome
10-01-2008, 08:49 PM
7:29 is REALY fast for Nurburgring and the GT-R is a hair slower than a well tuned Omni in the quarter on street tires at twice the weight.........I like there aproach to confirming the times.
http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2008/09/2009-nissan-gt-r-0-60-in-35-and-274mpg.html

Uncorrected actual times unlike Road & Track and other "corrected" times. Great car, just about a supercar bone stock but 7:29 at NRBG is an incredible statement.
Al
10-01-2008, 10:48 PM
Nissan stated that the V-spec was tuned and had shaved tires.

What does a "stock" GTR run on the ring?
jbiscuit
10-02-2008, 07:50 AM
Nissan stated that the V-spec was tuned and had shaved tires.

What does a "stock" GTR run on the ring?

Porsche has shown what a bone stock GT-R runs at The Ring: 7:50s. 7:50s is still moving but not nearly as impressive as the original claim
animal
10-02-2008, 08:59 AM
Down with imports. It's all an axis conspiracy. Ha!
Flicktitty
10-02-2008, 09:11 AM
Meh, i still got a Road And Track with the headline GT-R SPANKS 911 turbo and corvette Z06. i've heard more tests saying the 911 got the shit handed to them by Nissan. now a company buys the competitors car and runs slower? Who says they were full out? that would be like Ford buying a ZR1 to see if it could beat a ford GT. NO SHIT they wouldn't push it to the limits.
Karps TA
10-02-2008, 09:13 AM
If it wasn't done by the same driver then I don't see it being valid.
Moparjim
10-02-2008, 09:26 AM
Let's not forget what is really important here. That a stock 09 Dodge Viper ACR ran 7.22, beating both the Nissan and the Vette and currently holding the record...:goof
Adam Brooks
10-02-2008, 09:26 AM
haha this is awesome. This has the making of the best top gear episode ever!

Karps: they did use the same driver
"Porsche engineers were able to achieve a lap time of 7:54 with the GT-R, which was brand new from a U.S. dealership. On the same day with the same expert driver, a 911 Turbo test car managed 7:38 and the GT2 achieved 7:34."
Prince Valiant
10-02-2008, 09:31 AM
Let's not forget what is really important here. That a stock 09 Dodge Viper ACR ran 7.22, beating both the Nissan and the Vette and currently holding the record...:goof
I was about to say...it wasn't "only" beaten by the ZR-1, lol.
Karps TA
10-02-2008, 09:33 AM
Sorry missed that. Maybe I should say same person paying his check. lol

But I agree, let's put the Stig in the cars and see what's what.

Also as a person who has worked with both German and Japanese engineers, it does not surprise me one bit that they would be having a pissing match over who's **** is bigger.
shoooo32
10-02-2008, 10:12 AM
haha this is awesome. This has the making of the best top gear episode ever!


Top Gear FTMFW!:headbang
CobraSnake
10-02-2008, 10:46 AM
Nissan stated that the V-spec was tuned and had shaved tires.

What does a "stock" GTR run on the ring?

yeah I heard they had different suspension, different tires, and uped the boost.

Mark
Slow Joe
10-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Leave it to Porsche to know when to call someone out... :thumbsup
Waver
10-02-2008, 11:43 AM
Then again, remember it is a u.s. model, arnt most u.s. models a little down on power than their euro bretheren?
CannotPost
10-02-2008, 11:47 AM
Let's not forget what is really important here. That a stock 09 Dodge Viper ACR ran 7.22, beating both the Nissan and the Vette and currently holding the record...:goof

Is'nt the ACR a racecar tho? Purchased soley for the purpose of track time? Are they even street legal? Pardon my ignorance about vipers.
Prince Valiant
10-02-2008, 11:56 AM
Is'nt the ACR a racecar tho? Purchased soley for the purpose of track time? Are they even street legal? Pardon my ignorance about vipers.Street legal.

Uses upgraded brakes/suspension components and enhanced aerodynamics for increased downforce...street legal tires are used. A hardcore package allows you to lighten the car ~ 80 lbs.

Engine/trans/gears remains the same as what you get with the regular 600hp SRT-10 vipers.