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LIZMO
09-08-2008, 01:45 AM
according to the menomonee falls police department, thats true.

i got pulled over cuz 'my brake lights weren't working' and then he told me that they look like led lights and those are illegial because they aren't as bright as stock lights. then he told me to hit the brake again, and it worked.
and i also got warning for a loud exhaust but nothing for my brake lights... probably because hes stupid and doesn't know that led lights are known to be brigher than any stock lights. expecially cuz they are 20 dollars for two bulbs....
:fire:chair:

BadAzzGTA89
09-08-2008, 06:37 AM
according to the menomonee falls police department, thats true.

i got pulled over cuz 'my brake lights weren't working' and then he told me that they look like led lights and those are illegial because they aren't as bright as stock lights. then he told me to hit the brake again, and it worked.
and i also got warning for a loud exhaust but nothing for my brake lights... probably because hes stupid and doesn't know that led lights are known to be brigher than any stock lights. expecially cuz they are 20 dollars for two bulbs....
:fire:chair:

I call BS on that we have DOT approved lights on our semi's and trailers that at night light up the whole road when you hit the brakes!And the state troopers never give us a fine:rolleyes:I think that cop was a lil bored..
Hell most companies switch over to all led lights all around!
LED= Light seen further away, flash faster,last longer.....

Poncho
09-08-2008, 07:10 AM
In a car application it all depends on the LEDs. I'd never use crap that you can buy @ autozone for LEDs, been there done that. But you can buy some ridiculously bright ones on e-bay.

ND4SPD
09-08-2008, 08:00 AM
Hell, most of the new police light bars are LEDs. All of the lighting on our newer fire trucks (apart from the headlights of course and the two rear upper rotators) are LED. Are they going to pull my wife over in her SRX (cuz she goes through Falls quite a bit) because she has LED (stock) tails?

PureSound15
09-08-2008, 08:31 AM
Well. - LED's are brighter, but only when used in a housing that has the ability to reflect the light coming from the LEDs. If you're using a bulb that had the LEDs facing out and back, they will not be as bright as incandescent bulb that is reflected from behind by the housing.

There are LED bulbs like Dan said, on ebay, that have LEDs shining back and to the sides; they work much better than anything else. Unless you're using superflux LEDs (the larger ones that you see on many new cars, which are VERY bright and do not need a reflector housing).

Slow Joe
09-08-2008, 08:56 AM
Falls cops suck like that... I had tint on my 6-banger for 4 years, they pulled me over and I had to have the windows re-tinted... Because it was 2% too dark... Of course they don't care if the windows have solar tint from the factory....

From what I've noticed they've gotten bored in the past few years and decided that if they feel something is a "equipment voilation" you're getting a ticket or a warning...

On my 6-banger car they said nothing about the exhaust, lowered ride height or anything like that...

SmokinRAM114
09-08-2008, 10:21 AM
I have all LED lighting on my truck but tails.( i will soon) The amber LED cab lights i can drive with at night w/o headlights on! And the amber LEDs down the side of my truck are bright enough to be considered underglows LOL

That_Guy
09-08-2008, 10:25 AM
In a car application it all depends on the LEDs. I'd never use crap that you can buy @ autozone for LEDs, been there done that. But you can buy some ridiculously bright ones on e-bay.

true that.. i etched a board for my rear 3rd brake light... and its 4x as bright as my stock bulbs..

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/nramlow2006/03-18-08_0934.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/nramlow2006/03-18-08_0933.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q111/nramlow2006/04-15-08_0029.jpg

BAD LS1
09-08-2008, 11:04 AM
Ryan nailed it.

The LED bulbs are not condusive for the reflective material in the brake light housing. Mainly because those snap in LED bulbs for like 1157 dont have any lights on the backside to project onto the chrome. So it only looks like 2 red dots in the brake lights. I rip on a guy i work with all the time because he has that same arragment in his durango and you cant tell for shit if hes on the brakes or not! The CHMSL is the only way to tell hes braking lol

Poncho
09-08-2008, 11:14 AM
Good e-bay LEDs with lighting for refraction are the only way to go, really.

boostin350z
09-08-2008, 11:14 AM
that cop is a retard. more and more automotive companies are using led's because of there faster reaction time and brightness. i got a set of led tails from an 08 z, and they are bright as hell. almost to bright id say

Poncho
09-08-2008, 11:21 AM
I've been meaning to change my stuff to LEDs for a while, but just haven't bothered to burn $50 or so to change out my sidemarkers, brakes, etc. I don't have the budget that I did on my old GTP

boostin350z
09-08-2008, 12:48 PM
I've been meaning to change my stuff to LEDs for a while, but just haven't bothered to burn $50 or so to change out my sidemarkers, brakes, etc. I don't have the budget that I did on my old GTP

i got spare resistors, if you need them, and blue/luzeon white leds if you wanna do your interior.

Poncho
09-08-2008, 01:07 PM
white??? Hmmm I'd be game for that..

I hate it when people do colors, i'd rather just do a white interior.

Flicktitty
09-08-2008, 01:09 PM
i got spare resistors, if you need them, and blue/luzeon white leds if you wanna do your interior.

Hey Dimi, you should do Liz's gauge cluster in LED ;) whatta ya say?

boostin350z
09-08-2008, 03:00 PM
Hey Dimi, you should do Liz's gauge cluster in LED ;) whatta ya say?

i say i need a soldering gun and some inero por favor. led's are a ***** to do

Flicktitty
09-08-2008, 03:11 PM
i say i need a soldering gun and some inero por favor. led's are a ***** to do

so a sodering gun and some cash? hmmm how much.

lilws6
09-08-2008, 03:58 PM
i love playing with leds i'll put up some pics of my tails on the gsxr but first ryan and tom are correct leds only light up about 15% of the area around itself leds mostly shine straight ahead. the tail light cover on my gsxr alows the leds to disperse but you still see the little dots lol but there bright heres a few pics and a video i just took since leds are a hot topic today
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/lilws6/DSC01188.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/lilws6/DSC01189.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/lilws6/DSC01190.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/lilws6/DSC01193.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/lilws6/DSC01194.jpg

sorry crappy video
http://s91.photobucket.com/albums/k299/lilws6/?action=view&current=MOV01191.flv

LIZMO
09-08-2008, 09:28 PM
dimi - i have a soldering gun.. well one thats used for stained glass.. which i think its the same kind?

and if thats true about the Led lights not reflecting and then not being as bright, that could be true but im not getting new bulbs b/c the led bulbs were like 18 dollars for two. so umm thats not cheap.

lilws6
09-08-2008, 09:31 PM
if you didn't get your bulbs from here you wasted your money this is by far the best place to get led lights...

LIZMO
09-08-2008, 09:58 PM
whats the best place to get leds from?

GRAMPS SS
09-08-2008, 10:07 PM
Falls cops suck like that... I had tint on my 6-banger for 4 years, they pulled me over and I had to have the windows re-tinted... Because it was 2% too dark... Of course they don't care if the windows have solar tint from the factory....

From what I've noticed they've gotten bored in the past few years and decided that if they feel something is a "equipment voilation" you're getting a ticket or a warning...

On my 6-banger car they said nothing about the exhaust, lowered ride height or anything like that...


state is 50% right....i'm in the falls everyday....they see my suv parked at work everyday....got pulled over the other day for burnt out tail lamp...no biggy....rolled down the window...didn't say a word...i'm at 30% on divers and pass door windows....they don't even have a gun to tell ya what your tint is at....

PureSound15
09-08-2008, 11:01 PM
whats the best place to get leds from?

Ebay or superbrightleds.com

03CVLX
09-09-2008, 01:00 AM
I thought I read somewhere that for taillights you should get Red Led's to go behind red lenses. I thought I remember it saying that white Led's wash out the color or something close to that. Anybody ever hear of that before??

Waver
09-09-2008, 06:08 AM
The falls......they really dont have anything better to do than follow cars that they think are fast or modded, just waiting for them to slip....last year I had one follow me from main onto the freeway and then all the way to the good hope exit before he pulled me over....no ticket, no nothing....said he was going to sent it but never did

Poncho
09-09-2008, 06:30 AM
I thought I read somewhere that for taillights you should get Red Led's to go behind red lenses. I thought I remember it saying that white Led's wash out the color or something close to that. Anybody ever hear of that before??

yes they well, that is certain. Done it before.

I got all my stuff from the e-bay seller, velocity LEDs

You'd want something like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3156-3157-20-High-Flux-LED-RED-Brake-Tail-3057-4157-T25_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33713QQihZ011QQitem Z320296965571QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
or this
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-36-LED-Red-Brake-Turn-Car-Lights-Bulbs-3157-4157_W0QQitemZ250292772616QQihZ015QQcategoryZ58019 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
but you DON'T WANT THIS
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3157-Red-21-Led-Brake-Tail-Signal-Light-Bright-1-pair_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33713QQihZ021QQite mZ310080636289QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Undertaker
09-09-2008, 08:13 AM
Velocity LED's is a very good seller. I have bought from him before.

You can also try www.Autolumination.com. He also sells sets for Gauge Cluster bulb replacements. They have a wider selection over SuperBrightLED's but are a little more expensive.

The Surface Mount Technology LED's are probably the Brightest LED's out there.

LIZMO
09-09-2008, 09:30 AM
i don't think ima be buying more leds anytime soon, seening as i just spend almost 40 on the ones in my tails now... so idc what the cop says. he didn't even give me a written warning... so yeah! but thanks, if i need leds for anything else, ill check out the ones u guys recomended

desiredshoe
09-10-2008, 12:22 AM
I thought I read somewhere that for taillights you should get Red Led's to go behind red lenses. I thought I remember it saying that white Led's wash out the color or something close to that. Anybody ever hear of that before??

I would do orange-red Lumiled superfluxes. They put out more lumens compared to red.

I would also buy the real stuff from Lumileds, which is philips. Ive used leds from china companys and due to their poor quality control, the forward voltages can vary greatly between leds resulting in a slightly different color. Lumileds will sell you tubes from certain bins with the same forward voltage. Its the way to go.

desiredshoe
09-10-2008, 12:23 AM
I would also check out www.hidplanet.com ...they have an led section with a ton of good info.

lilws6
09-10-2008, 08:47 AM
Ebay or superbrightleds.com

aparently i didn't put a link in my other post lol but superbrightleds is what i recomend. or build them your self :goof. I have white leds in the back of the bike and they light just fine. i didn't put red ones because the red ones do not light as bright and there for would not be able to see as well