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Prince Valiant
08-06-2008, 05:38 PM
Just recently did my first "plane cruise" with my brother...

Much like some car cruises, this seemed at first, to be far more complicated than need be...but when you consider how vastly different planes are, cruising altitudes, speeds, what they'll do flying into an uncontrolled airfield, etc...you quickly figure out that this is nothing like a car cruise, lol.

My brother has been a VFR (visual flight rating) private pilot since ~ 1997...and his goal since then was to buy an airplane. Just two months ago, he did...a 1979 Beechcraft Skipper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Skipper)

Here's his actual plane:

http://brewcitymuscle.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5490&stc=1&d=1218061236

He calls it "The Margarita Express" as the color green really does resemble the drink. It's kind of funny to think my younger brother, has a plane...but for 27,000 dollars, it's not so bad...most used single engine planes he rated to fly currently run in the 60-100G even used :wow

What a blast though...despite being the slowest of all the planes (we were cruising in the 90's land speed wise out there into the wind, and 110 with the wind at our tail on the way in) we had a blast.

First off, talk about a hairy take-off. For some reason (not being a pilot or air-traffic controller, I don't know why) they had us take off with a slight tail/cross wind. Let me tell you, small airplane, low power, 450lbs of passenger with said winds and a 2800 ft DA made for an interesting take-off. VERY disconcerting.

The conditions required us to fly at a minimum of 4500 ft, and we had a small VFR window to climb it in...so this required us flying in ascending circles till we hit an acceptable altitude.

Once up there, Matt let me fly the plane...talk about hard. I've flown larger Cessena's (172's) before that fly like caddilacs compared to this thing. Two things I found challenging was a)doing too much flying (I was always working the controls, when I shouldn't have been) and b) Keeping my bearing above the clouds...with a cloud cover above and below, it could get confusing...I wasn't used to navigating using basically only a compass and altimeter before, lol. Before, I could always fly to landmarks...here, I had to keep a heading; seems like a small distinction, but it's HUGE.

We took off first, but were mid-pack in arriving. It took us ~ 55 minutes to get to Ho-chunk casino, whereas it'd probably be nearly a 2 hour car ride from my house...

But flew into Baraboo, to Ho-chunk for lunch, and back...Both landings my brother did great (any in which I can type in front of my CPU afterward qualifies as great, lol).

I seem to recall BCM having at least one other pilots...anyone else?

But good times, good times :thumbsup

lilws6
08-06-2008, 06:05 PM
sounds like fun a guy i work with is a pilot and he just recently said he hasn't been out in awhile and had the itch to fly. He doesn't have a plane or anything so i don't know how he could do so. can you just rent planes like cars lol

TURTLE
08-06-2008, 06:07 PM
that's pretty sweet! i never would have thought that people did that with planes like they do with cars and motorcycles... where'd ya fly out of?

Feature Pony
08-06-2008, 06:23 PM
Thats pretty cool, but you will never catch me in a puddle jumper!!! I flew on a 20 passenger plane from San Angelo TX to Dallas TX and I almost lost it. The only planes I fly in are the big ones or military!

ProjectCamaro
08-06-2008, 06:24 PM
I have been up in a small prop plane a couple times and I would love to get my licnese to fly one whenever I wanted to. Your brother is a lucky guy!

Prince Valiant
08-06-2008, 07:40 PM
can you just rent planes like cars lol
Yep...he could go to most airports (timmerman, waukeshau, west bend, etc...) and rent a variety of planes. They might require that he goes up with a CFI (certified flight instructor) and do a skills check-off before they rent it out though. Most planes are b/w 60-240/hr at timmerman depending on the complexity and performance...

that's pretty sweet! i never would have thought that people did that with planes like they do with cars and motorcycles... where'd ya fly out of?Timmerman...he even got the best hanger, right next to the parking lot, single plane.

HRSEPLA
08-06-2008, 07:49 PM
I don't know, 'BEACHcraft' and 'Skipper'
F that '3 hour tour' .......:)

Reverend Cooper
08-06-2008, 07:51 PM
i wanna junp outta it, thats more fun

07ROUSHSTG3
08-06-2008, 08:00 PM
any more pics? sounds cool!

Cryptic
08-06-2008, 10:37 PM
curious, about what was the fuel bill for round trip to ho-chunk?

lasttimearound
08-06-2008, 11:33 PM
my father and i took our plane out east last year, went to kitty hawk, dc, and a couple other smaller airports. just a nice 10 day trip. it was fun. we took his cherokee six. hes looking at getting a STOL which can take off in just over 100 ft! google stol videos, things are amazing.

Prince Valiant
08-06-2008, 11:51 PM
curious, about what was the fuel bill for round trip to ho-chunk?
It's not bad...of course, it depends on wind direction, etc...but the skipper is very efficient as far as planes go...essentially 20-23 kmpg. Roundtrip, with the price of Avgas at ~ 5.60/gal it came to 43 dollars or so. Not too bad imo.

my father and i took our plane out east last year, went to kitty hawk, dc, and a couple other smaller airports. just a nice 10 day trip. it was fun. we took his cherokee six. hes looking at getting a STOL which can take off in just over 100 ft! google stol videos, things are amazing.My brother actually wanted to purchase a Helio Courier...found one that need some work for ~58,000...but when the flight report came in, it was rougher than even the low price indicated. Not wanting to wait to find another very rare craft, he just went with something cheap/affordable that can tie him over for a while, one that he could fly NOW without further certifications, etc...

Russ Jerome
08-07-2008, 12:45 AM
It's not bad...of course, it depends on wind direction, etc...but the skipper is very efficient as far as planes go...essentially 20-23 kmpg. Roundtrip, with the price of Avgas at ~ 5.60/gal it came to 43 dollars or so. Not too bad imo.



Hell ya, the ground you coverd and timeframe that sounds cheap!
I bet a trip downtown and back in a 88 Crown Vic Taxi would be $50.

Prince Valiant
08-07-2008, 07:42 AM
Probably could have got there and back a whole lot sooner if we didn't have to spend so much time hauling our big asses up to altitude too, lol.

boostaddict14
08-07-2008, 09:44 AM
Sounds like fun A friend of mines dad bought a Russian MIG. It's ridiculous.

Prince Valiant
08-07-2008, 10:08 AM
Funny, we were talking to another pilot and he was talking about a mig too...seems there are nearly 250 in the US now, lol.

CobraSnake
08-07-2008, 10:47 AM
Sounds like fun A friend of mines dad bought a Russian MIG. It's ridiculous.

damn dude we need to become friends. You drift race you know formula 1 drivers and you know people with enough money to be a MIG. We need to hang out.

Mark

lasttimearound
08-07-2008, 10:53 AM
what formula one drivers do you know? and where does he keep the MIG?

boostaddict14
08-07-2008, 12:59 PM
what formula one drivers do you know? and where does he keep the MIG?

I know a formula D driver and alot of semi-pro drift guys. Not a formula 1 driver. And they live in Hartford. The plane is in his dad's hanger. Waukesha airport maybe? he also owns a small passenger plane. The guy owns a company that sells the bullet reloaders.

lasttimearound
08-07-2008, 02:26 PM
ok, fomula d makes more sense. brian peter?

CobraSnake
08-07-2008, 02:59 PM
ok my fault formula D sorry. I know I heard formula so I wasn't sure.

Mark

sakisteve
08-07-2008, 04:36 PM
Yeah BP, is cool. Very nice guy.

boostaddict14
08-07-2008, 04:53 PM
indeed