Did Some more body work today (Update 11/02 body kit done)

[Cryptic]

Put on the rear fenders flares (ShineAuto Burnout) with some 3M 8115 panel bond. Good stuff. 90 mins of work time. Just goop on the inside anywhere there's contact and I did some extra around the outside edges since I'll be molding/blending this all in. You can run your finger over it to smooth it out. Wipes off your hands pretty easily.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3149.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3151.sized.jpg




Made some simple supports for the bottom of the skirts to give it a bit of rigity. Nothing too exciting
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3148.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3155.sized.jpg


Other than a some sanding of some small items and a little bit of priming... that's it for today! I have to wait 24 hours for that panel bond to setup.

[nismodave]

Looking good, Andy.

[twirkin50]

Where did you get the panel bond at? When it dries can you sand it to blend it or does it dry similar to caulk?

Looks good!!

[Philly-O]

looks good but we had problems with the panel bond and the bondo reacting togher and letting off some gasses causing small bubbles in the paint. if you call project two and ask for james he can let you know more about what he found out talking with the rep. we ran into that problem with the ESPN truck when we used that on the flares. otherwise it looks great.
project two 262-650-1464

[Cryptic]

I'll give him a call. It's my understanding that since the 3M 8115 is an epoxy based material you need to use a Urethane primer. I was going to use Lord Fuzor's 127EZ which is urethane based until I learned this fact.

The primer I am using is DuPont ChromaSurfacer 7704S 2K Urethane Primer-
Filler, which can also have a flex agent added.

[Cryptic]

Where did you get the panel bond at? When it dries can you sand it to blend it or does it dry similar to caulk?

Looks good!!

Finishmaster's on HWY 100, just before the HOBO.

You blend it with your finger before it dries. Not sure if you want to sand it. Generally its not even exposed. I went goo-happy since I am blending over it.

[kornholio788]

Figured I would give my share in since this is the buisiness I am in. I work for Auto Paint and Supply(Racine store)

8115 = AMAZING STUFF! I sell so much of it. I have used it myself as well. Let me tell you that clock will never come apart again haha. Never heard the issue with the mud though. I will look into it. As for your primer the 7704 is what I use. Nice primer but it shrinks alot. I am looking into a PPG primer myself. What base and clear you plan on using in the end?

Looks good though so far. I really need to make some skirt supports like you did.

[Cryptic]

What base and clear you plan on using in the end?


Taking suggestions, but I thought I had to stay in that family of products "Dupont ChromaSystem"

Mixing products I thought can cause reactions.

<Ears are open>

[Philly-O]

i'm pretty sure thats the panel bond we used, it might have been duramix. i think he bondo'd directly over the glue then primed and painted. it took a few days for the bubbles to push the paint. maybee priming between the panel bond and filler would help. james would know more, i am passing this info on second hand.

[kornholio788]

Taking suggestions, but I thought I had to stay in that family of products "Dupont ChromaSystem"

Mixing products I thought can cause reactions.

<Ears are open>

Not necessarily. I use DuPont primer filler and sealer depending on the job and use PPG DBC base coat and clear. I used the chroma system line all through school and really liked it. I have switched over to ppg though. Starting to like their products more. As long as your primer is activated(hardened) you won't have any issues throwing any brand base over it(as long as you don't use lacquer :eek:) In fact with most bases you can put any clear over it you want. Just some food for thought. But that chroma base line is good.

[Cryptic]

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3162.sized.jpg
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[Karps TA]

Looks good.

I wish I had the money and space to do a ground up project like that. Someday.

[Cryptic]

1500 on the roller
1680 on fiber glass
425 prep supplies so far

if your doing the work yourself, it ain't so bad

[Karps TA]

All the cars I want to do will cost me a ton and take 5 years lol

[lasttimearound]

goodluck finding an fd roller for 1500 anymore, ive been looking.

[Cryptic]

I guess you could include 300 bucks in gas to go get it too

[boostaddict14]

nice stuff what powerplant are you going to run when its all said and done.

[Reverend Cooper]

i dont know that much about these cars,is it like a wide body flare kit or is this just factory stuff? looks good

[Breecher_7]

I guess you could include 300 bucks in gas to go get it too

I know where there is a 03 cobra engine and trans just sitting on a pallet and can be sold for the right price... :thumbsup

[Cryptic]

i dont know that much about these cars,is it like a wide body flare kit or is this just factory stuff? looks good

It's a replica kit from ShineAutoProject (out of California). They make some pretty descent quality FRP kits for a few different cars. The kit was originally made by KS-Auto (Japan)
This was there car :
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5383/burnout1wd5.jpg
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/6186/4913145yy2.jpg


I know where there is a 03 cobra engine and trans just sitting on a pallet and can be sold for the right price... :thumbsup

I'd think I'd only be interested in the rear end.

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I'm going to try and get the flares smoothed in completely and get the side skirts on today. It won't be too long and we'll shoot the car down with primer.

[Reverend Cooper]

wow, that looks great,are you using the whole kit like in the pix. cuz that is really gonna look awesome.

[Cryptic]

everything but the rear bumber... I like the ass end as it is stock

[Reverend Cooper]

i think that rear bumper in the picture is bad ass,but having dual exhaust exits in it tops out the bad assery chart

[Cryptic]

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[Cryptic]

Hand sanding
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1137.sized.jpg
First coat primer/filler
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1140.sized.jpg

Burnout Front Bumber from ShineAutoProject
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1141.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1142.sized.jpg
This sh!t pisses me off, brand new and there's a crack right where the bumber goes under the fender. It's going have to be completely re-glassed.
There where plenty of other pits that have to be filled to on this bumber. There's going to be a lot of prep time here.

1st round of handsanding... I was black head to toe when I finished. It still needs more work, but this was enough for the day.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1146.sized.jpg

[Prince Valiant]

WOW dude...just WOW. This is turning out much more hardcore than I thought it'd be...wow.

[PureSound15]

Very badass, Andy. That black RX7 is one of my favorite cars of all time. If you can pull off a stance like that and that quasi pro-touring look .... wow.

What's the goal for the rest of the car? Did you make a decision on color, wheels... anything else?

[SSScottSS]

Wow!!! I'm not much for imports, but you are doing a LOT of work on that car and it looks like it going to be NICE!!!! Looking good :thumbsup

[Waver]

It's a replica kit from ShineAutoProject (out of California). They make some pretty descent quality FRP kits for a few different cars. The kit was originally made by KS-Auto (Japan)
This was there car :
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/5383/burnout1wd5.jpg
http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/6186/4913145yy2.jpg



I'd think I'd only be interested in the rear end.

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I'm going to try and get the flares smoothed in completely and get the side skirts on today. It won't be too long and we'll shoot the car down with primer.

Damn, if it looks anything like that when it is done, I sure as hell cant wait to see it....classic wide look but still staying true to the origional design.....I love those last gen rx7's........

[pw_cc_runner]

This sh!t pisses me off, brand new and there's a crack right where the bumber goes under the fender. It's going have to be completely re-glassed.
There where plenty of other pits that have to be filled to on this bumber. There's going to be a lot of prep time here.

You are lucky you bumper is even close to fitting. I would have taken a crack over spending 100+ hours to get my bumper to fit the car plus having to fix the rest of the imperfections. Keep giving us updates, I can't wait to see it once it starts going together. Hell, I'd love to lay out a nasty set of flames on it for you :thumbsup

[Cryptic]

Forgot to post the pic of the crack :durr
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1145.sized.jpg

[Cryptic]

WOW dude...just WOW. This is turning out much more hardcore than I thought it'd be...wow.

That's the way I roll :shades


What's the goal for the rest of the car? Did you make a decision on color, wheels... anything else?

A couple final color candidates:
I seem to like Micas and pearls. Not sure if I want to do any 3 stage painting because color matching down the road will be hell.

Toyota/Lexus Spectra Blue Mica (pictured: PPG paint: DBU code:5473)
(Dupont Code: 8M6, I think the paint chip looks so much darker)
http://www.verycoolparts.com/DSC04588.JPG
http://www.verycoolparts.com/DSC04604.JPG
Another Spectra blue, although seems much lighter in this pic
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/mattmck/rx7/DSC03918a.jpg

Royal Pearl Blue
Base Color: Rolls Royce Royal Pearl Blue, 1998
- Codes: Dupont Chromabase B/C; Code: 9540022
- Color: Royal Blue PRL B/C Metallic/Iridescent Content> 5 grams/litre Valueshade #7
http://www.utcobras.com/images/stories/ar06/larry.jpg
same car, same paint but very different looking photos. This makes picking a color by the internet impossible. Photoshoppers playing with colors.
http://www.primequip.net/images/65%20427%20SC/POM%201203%20copy%20B.jpg

Magnetic Blue
2005 Lotus Elise
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=61378&stc=1&d=1188861283

Dark Fiji Blue
I think that's the Civic SI blue though, that puts a odd taste in my mouth

I'm still hunting for colors... Wheels will be decided after I pick a color. I might be broke by that point. I thought about buying a crate LS3 or perhaps a built 403 LS2 (http://www.speedinc.com/enginepackages.cfm)

My LSx knowledge is limited, so I am up for suggestions if someone thinks I am pissing away money.

[UnderPSI]

Magnetic blue! Do it!

[srt4eh]

i 2nd magnetic blue

[0TransAm0]

3rd for the magnetis blue..

looks like its coming along nicely.. lots of long nites and hard work im sure.... at least you are doing it the right way and taking your time...

[Cryptic]

put in another 4-5 hours today... Spot putty, wet sanding, and some primer

Before... yeah a lot of massaging
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3177.sized.jpg


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[Reverend Cooper]

man i cant wait to see that car in action

[GTSLOW]

Lookin good!!! x4 on the metallic blue.

[Cryptic]

Lookin good!!! x4 on the metallic blue.

*cough*
Magnetic Blue

[Reverend Cooper]

cough
sonic blue

[Cryptic]

cough
sonic blue

also tempting... always loved that color
At least I can find that paint code.

[awsomeears]

What about intense blue ? my 98 R/T neon had it and everyone asked if I had it painted because it looked sweet. Factory paint FTW

I think a Dark Gold would also look sweet !!!

[Flicktitty]

looking good!

[Poncho]

Impulse Blue, I've even got some in a can for you to try...... While you're painting my spoiler.

[boostin350z]

i got a can of evercoat fiberglass bondo mix. it doesnt bubble up like bondo, and is completely waterproof, even when not set. if you need any body work materials, ive got plenty sitting in my basement that i havent used since i repainted my z.

[Poncho]

i got a can of evercoat fiberglass bondo mix. it doesnt bubble up like bondo, and is completely waterproof, even when not set. if you need any body work materials, ive got plenty sitting in my basement that i havent used since i repainted my z.

I need clearcoat. :)

[boostin350z]

I need clearcoat. :)

i got you covered : ) is your paint a ppg or chromabase? reason i ask is different types of paint require different base coats, etc.

[Cryptic]

The hood's 1st coat of primer
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3186.sized.jpg

Front Bumper 4th coat primer... might sill have some spot putting to do. Surface prep on FRP is FTL.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3187.sized.jpg

Sun roof 1st coat of primer
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3203.sized.jpg

We lost count how man coats of bondo and primer to get the rear fender flares this far. I think its good to go now :thumbsup
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3201.sized.jpg

We decided to use the OEM fenders for testing paint color. This is the Lotus' Magnetic Blue (B100) using a single stage paint for testing only. We'l' be spraying a base coat/clear cost for final.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3190.sized.jpg
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I didnt get a chance to spray the other fender, but tomorrow we will spray the other fender down with the Lexus' Ultrasonic Blue (8U1)


We shut it it down for the day... ***Garage Porn***
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3199.sized.jpg
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[Holeshot]

Looks good Andy. pics don't do the paint justice. Even though its the single stage and its our value line your using what do you think of the Lotus color? I like it even though it has no pearl in it.

How did you like the Tec Flow?

[Cryptic]

The Lexus color is gonna have a tuff time convincing me away from that Magnetic Blue. I REALLY like it.

It is difficult to capture with a camera. I was using my step-mom's 4 or 5 year old Canon G3.

[Irish]

Looking good Andy. I am spraying the truck on Monday.

[Karps TA]

I think that blue you sprayed is going to look amazing on the whole car. It'll really make it stand out.

[Yooformula]

looking good Andy! you better sand down that orange peel.

[Cryptic]

The "orange peel" at the bottom of the fender is actually the OEM chip guard. None of that is left on the car. I think these fenders are going to become a new wall-hanger

[BOSS LX]

Very nice!

[BadAzzGTA89]

Looks good i really like that color!!!

[nismodave]

Very Very nice!!!

[Silver86]

lookin good!

[Cryptic]

Preping the rear hatch, I had a blast taking it off the car by myself. :alcoholic
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3207.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3208.sized.jpg

Other test fender in Ultrasonic Blue Mica (8U1)
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3211.sized.jpg
This one might look a little flat... we ran didn't quite have enough paint to cover an entire fender
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3214.sized.jpg

Left: Magnetic Blue (B100) - Right: Ultrasonic Blue Mica (8U1)
Look for a slight purplish pearl in the Ultrasonic Blue Mica
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3215.sized.jpg

Bottom: Magnetic Blue (B100) - Top: Ultrasonic Blue Mica (8U1)
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3216.sized.jpg

Left: Ultrasonic Blue Mica (8U1) - Right: Magnetic Blue (B100)
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3217.sized.jpg


Almost like splitting hairs between these two.
The Magnetic blue is much more metallic. Lots of silver'ish flake.

[Flicktitty]

both looks look great and in the pics look pretty close.

[Holeshot]

I like the Lotus color Better. :)

[twirkin50]

I am guessing you are spraying those outside in your driveway. If so, you are doing an awesome job!!! Even with the single stage paint it really looks good.

[SmokinRAM114]

DAMN THATS ALOT OF WORK!! i hate most imports but id probly tip my hat and where some AE and drive that car. :rolf :goof the blue is awesome, nice choice. it will look badass when its done

[Reverend Cooper]

please put a shirt on fagboy

[Cryptic]

86*F You're lucky I'm wearing shorts

[Yooformula]

that blue looks hot Andy!

[Reverend Cooper]

86*F You're lucky I'm wearing shorts

yeah true I don't wanna see your vagina. color is really nice 4 eyes

[ponyride00]

Both colors look really good. Just looking at them on here I would have to say the Lotus color.

[Cryptic]

Slideshow of all pics from today (http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/gallery/slideshow.php?set_albumName=rx7_paint_day_1)

2005 Lotus Elise Magnetic Blue Metallic (B100). Martin-Senour Tec/BASE
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3249.sized.jpg
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We lightly scuffed down the POR15 and color/cleared the entire engine bay.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3262.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3278.sized.jpg

Just base coat (no clear yet)
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3279.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3281.sized.jpg

We were just doing door jams and what not, but I couldn't resist putting down a light coat over the fender to see how it looked.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3286.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3291.sized.jpg


Engine bay base and clear coated
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3294.sized.jpg

It's got some shine to it.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3295.sized.jpg

Done for the day
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_paint_day_1/IMG_3284.sized.jpg

[nismodave]

Wow!!!!

[GTSLOW]

Sorry if I missed it, any pics of the color dried and cleaned up?

[Z28Envy]

Looks great!! I like the color:thumbsup

[Cryptic]

Sorry if I missed it, any pics of the color dried and cleaned up?

Test fenders
http://brewcitymuscle.com/forum/showpost.php?p=423051&postcount=48

[Breecher_7]

I love it. Turning out great!

[Poncho]

awesome stuff buddy.

[0TransAm0]

looking good. whats left? besides putting it all back together of course :)

[jbiscuit]

looks awesome andy! Good work man!

[Yooformula]

great job dude!

[A B4C Z]

DAMN looks good!

[kornholio788]

Looks good. Sucks though after all that work and how great it looks now you bought the shitty house paint. Hopefully it lasts. Hell even maacco uses shermin williams. Which is better than that stuff.

It really looks good. I just hope it doesn't come off! And get yourself a gravity feed hvlp gun!!! You are wasting ALOT of color with that gun!!!!!! Us supply shops love those guns. As you use about twice the material as you would with a gravity feed hvlp gun in overspray.

[Silver350]

Great Job. I look forward to seeing updates to your project and cant wait to see the car all back together.

[lilws6]

did you cover the stuff in the garage? i know when we sprayed my bike even with and hvlp gun the over spray was on everything the color looks better then i expected as well. looking nice andy not wheres my bcm project 2 pics lol or did i miss the thread already

[nismodave]

Looks good. Sucks though after all that work and how great it looks now you bought the shitty house paint. Hopefully it lasts. Hell even maacco uses shermin williams. Which is better than that stuff.

It really looks good. I just hope it doesn't come off! And get yourself a gravity feed hvlp gun!!! You are wasting ALOT of color with that gun!!!!!! Us supply shops love those guns. As you use about twice the material as you would with a gravity feed hvlp gun in overspray.

:confused

[Prince Valiant]

Looks better on the car than on your hands dude...lol. Great pics btw...

[flyin_blue_egg]

car looks like it will be awesome when it's all painted. and now your dads garage floor is a nice shade of blue i see

[Cryptic]

looking good. whats left? besides putting it all back together of course :)

Put doors, hatch, hood, fenders, skirts,and front bumper on. Get all the gaps looking good. Spray down entire car in base coat, wet sand entire car, and clear. We pretty much only sprayed things that couldn't be reached once car is assembled.

[Cryptic]

Looks good. Sucks though after all that work and how great it looks now you bought the shitty house paint. Hopefully it lasts. Hell even maacco uses shermin williams. Which is better than that stuff.

It really looks good. I just hope it doesn't come off! And get yourself a gravity feed hvlp gun!!! You are wasting ALOT of color with that gun!!!!!! Us supply shops love those guns. As you use about twice the material as you would with a gravity feed hvlp gun in overspray.

Martin-Senour is re-branded Sherwin-Williams. It's also the premium line I went with. It laid out real nice, especially since we didn't have a booth and a controlled environment. I didn't see any orange peel yet. I got a hook-up on the paint too. Retail on the supplies I got was over $850.

My gun's cup is pressurized (to 15psi). There actually isn't that much overspray at all. It behaves much like a HVLP gun. It's a commercial grade piece of hardware. I think this gun cost over 500 bucks. IMO, it make my work look like a professional did it.

Believe me when I say I don't like pissing away money. I do my homework.

[Poncho]

Seriously Andy, I am sickened and appalled by your behavior. I can't believe you are willing to kill our children by not painting a car in a controlled environment in a booth. Might as well dump pig and Homer turds in the local lake.

The EPA will not be happy, I will be forwarding my findings. Expect that home to be surrounded in a dome much like in the Simpsons movie by 5pm.

[Cryptic]

yeah... later I am going to go eat a baby seal. Supper is at 6pm. BOYBB

[Poncho]

yeah... later I am going to go eat a baby seal. Supper is at 6pm. BOYBB

:rolf:rolf:rolf I'll bring the A-1

[kornholio788]

Martin-Senour is re-branded Sherwin-Williams. It's also the premium line I went with. It laid out real nice, especially since we didn't have a booth and a controlled environment. I didn't see any orange peel yet. I got a hook-up on the paint too. Retail on the supplies I got was over $850.

My gun's cup is pressurized (to 15psi). There actually isn't that much overspray at all. It behaves much like a HVLP gun. It's a commercial grade piece of hardware. I think this gun cost over 500 bucks. IMO, it make my work look like a professional did it.

Believe me when I say I don't like pissing away money. I do my homework.
Oh I know what it is. Trust me. I know my paint. Shermin williams should stick to house paint. The martin is the cheap end of Shermin. Nason is a good cheap line that is pretty good quality. They make a nice clear too. the 497-00 is imo the best "cheap" clear out there.

And btw I don't care how much you paid for the gun. Facts are that standard guns go through MUCH more material than a gravity feed hvlp gun.

Not trying to rain on your party here man. Just letting you know. It is my job to know ;)

[Cryptic]

then you should also know that


Martin Senour Automotive Finishes Corp., Cleveland, has been certified under the QS-9000 quality standard, the common supplier quality standard for DaimlerChrylser Corp., Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Corp., and a number of truck manufacturers.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you should at least support it with something. Because I can't find nothing on the web that complains about any quality issues.


I would use it again, but if I had the money, I would use a higher quality paint, on a show car, NO.


My car is painted with Martin Senour NAPA paint and I get comments from guys in the biz all the time about the paint. The paint job is a little over 3 years old and is still outstanding.

I think the Roundy's brand tastes the same.

[Yooformula]

I guess you should throw it all away Andy and get the good stuff now huh??

[kornholio788]

LOL!! Ok. Your right. I know nothing. The 4 schools and being in the buissness for almost 2 years has taught me absolutly nothing. What do I know right? Hahaha. You obviously know more than me.

Looks good regardless.

[Yooformula]

I dont give a shit how much more you know than me or anyone else....HE DIDNT ASK! Maybe next time wait until after the car is painted and put together to give your opinion.

[Cryptic]

did you cover the stuff in the garage? i know when we sprayed my bike even with and hvlp gun the over spray was on everything the color looks better then i expected as well. looking nice andy not wheres my bcm project 2 pics lol or did i miss the thread already

There's inches of overspray on everything my dad owns in that garage. Why cover stuff now? :) LOL

I'll work on those pics for you guys. Busy week.

[kornholio788]

I dont give a shit how much more you know than me or anyone else....HE DIDNT ASK! Maybe next time wait until after the car is painted and put together to give your opinion.
Lol. :rolf If he didn't want opinions why post it on a forum board?

I was just trying to give him some pointers and ways to save some bucks. So feisty lol

[Yooformula]

BECAUSE ITS HIS FORUM BOARD! Stop typing bro! Give the advice when asked!!!!!!!! phukcing johnny on the spot!

[Cryptic]

It doesn't matter what paint goes on. It will be so fast, any paint will peel right off. :wooo

[Holeshot]

I stand behind all paint I make. And FYI that paint is Sherwin. So many nut swingers for Dupont, PPG and Sikkens. Also Car Quest bought Milwaukee Paint so does that mean that paint quality has gone down? Opinions are like ass holes. Everyone has one and a preferred brand to paint with.

[kornholio788]

It doesn't matter what paint goes on. It will be so fast, any paint will peel right off. :wooo

Good answer haha. Fact of the matter it looks good. And I hope it all turns out well. If you ever need some more material I can hook you up very nicely. And get you the good stuff. Dupont Chromabase, PPG DBC. I mix all that in house here so I can get you some big discounts. You have done ALOT of hard and great work on that car. All I was trying to do was inform you. Nothing more. Not bashing at all.

If you need some really nice clear I will see what i have in my closet at home. As I have lots of dented cans and shit that we get credited for. DC3000 is an awesome clear. I don't need it. I got a gallon. I can hook you up if you would like it. And I can get you the hardener for it at 10 over my cost.

Car is looking great. And I can understand the amazing amount of work and time that is in it. I just want to see it continue to look this good.

[Yooformula]

nice post! thank you!

[lilws6]

i painted the bike with dupont chrome yellow and am acually very dissapointed the way it turned out. i'm not profesional but it needs alot of work to finish after the spray and half the front is all chipped already. next paint i spray will be way cheaper brand in my opinion maybe it will hold up better then the high price crap

[GRNDNL]

LOL!! Ok. Your right. I know nothing. The 4 schools and being in the buissness for almost 2 years has taught me absolutly nothing. What do I know right? Hahaha. You obviously know more than me.

Looks good regardless.


Ahhhhh.....Dam......I'll be good and keep my mouth shut.......:devil


Nothing wrong with Martin-Senour, a freind use to sell it and we painted a few cars with it, they still look good after 15 years.......

Cars looking good Andy......:thumbsup

Should be done just in time for snow drags......

[kornholio788]

i painted the bike with dupont chrome yellow and am acually very dissapointed the way it turned out. i'm not profesional but it needs alot of work to finish after the spray and half the front is all chipped already. next paint i spray will be way cheaper brand in my opinion maybe it will hold up better then the high price crap

haha. Then you didn't prep/spray it right. I have countless shops using it with great success. Half of the big dealerships I sell to use it. Have been for years.

I sprayed dupont in school. Never had a problem with it. It leaves about the same orange peel as a factory job does. But with the proper set up and technique it can look like glass. Just because you don't know how to spray it/prep it doesn't mean it is shit.

The op is using the cheap stuff. And by the looks he is doing it correctly. Cheap well prepared/sprayed paint is gunna be better than quality poorly spray/prepped paint. User error. Sorry.

[HY35F2T]

nice post! thank you!

:rolf

[Syclone0044]

That's a really cool color.... thumbs up for what must be a ton of work. :thumbsup

[scaleracer]

Looks good! I like the color also! Can't wait to see the finished product!

[turbogarrett]

Andy, if you're still going the ls1 route there's a few things I would do before you put the paint gun away - trim some of the underhood bracing(tb & shocktower areas), the lip on the firewall and the 2 lower brackets up front (that were for the radiator iirc)

Looks great, any decisions on wheels yet?

[Cryptic]

Andy, if you're still going the ls1 route there's a few things I would do before you put the paint gun away - trim some of the underhood bracing(tb & shocktower areas), the lip on the firewall and the 2 lower brackets up front (that were for the radiator iirc)

Looks great, any decisions on wheels yet?

would you mind coming over and showing me? or if you have any pics?

[Lash]

Awesome color!


You have balls spraying sh!t like that outside. Did you have any problems with dirt getting into the paint?

[turbogarrett]

I'll take some pics tomorrow, or I could stop by later this week.

Removing the lower front brackets makes engine removal/installation a bit easier, the lip on the firewall reportedly has to go if you use the fast manifold(still have the ls6 here) and the hood bracing slightly rubbed my tb and r1 strut bar. My strut bar had to be raised ~1/8" or it would rub the intake manifold, using a thinner aftermarket bar may be an easier solution.

[Cryptic]

Awesome color!


You have balls spraying sh!t like that outside. Did you have any problems with dirt getting into the paint?

couple of bugs, but not bad at all. A slight breeze helped I think. Again this is just door jams, engine bay, and underside stuff, so you dont have to be too critical as you'll never see most of it.

[HP ADDICT]

Good work! Nice to see such a awesome car being saved.

[Brandon W.]

the way a car's paint turns out has hardly to do with the paint itself. its all about how the painted item is prepped. good job andy

[Waver]

dude, it is looking so good, really cant wait till it is done, the progress is great

[dfr225]

looks good

[Irish]

I can't wait to hear it run... :devil

[Poncho]

This is going to be the sweetest RX7 roller ever.

[Cryptic]

technically I have a motor, it's whether or not I choose to use that one.

[Poncho]

I call shens

I also call "Ricer"

[boostin350z]

cant wait to see this thing done!

[Cryptic]

Been kind of busy the last couple weeks, so the progress has been slow. I was training hard for some races which took alot of energy and time from the car. I was in Colorado 3 weeks ago for the Colorado Relay and Al's Run the week after that. Finally got back to it this past weekend.

The fenders and hood are on and aligned. Sanded off the "overspray" from the doing the door jams, sunroof area, trunk, etc. Quick hit of primer again and some sanding...

The next big headache is getting these fiberglass skirts on in a way that doesn't look glued or bolted on and more OEM and part of the car. The first issue we ran into is that the skirts come with a lip that sits in the door jam. This is just a recipe for the doors grinding between the bottom of the door and the top of the skirt. Paint would be scrapping off in no time.

We cut the entire lip off and we'll be blending it in to the door's edge with fiberglass/bondo
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3104.sized.jpg

Lip gone here:
Please disregard the overspray :goof
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1680.sized.jpg
Panel bond was applied the the flat area that touches car body. We did some extra grinding to smooth out some areas
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1678.sized.jpg

We marked off where the skirt goes before applying the 3M panel bond (same stuff I used on the fender flares) to the backside of the skirt
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1683.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1681.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1684.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1685.sized.jpg

Could only do one side... ran out of clamps


Last shot.... I like how the white looks against the blue... The car kinda begs for some white stripes or something. We'll see what happens when I get that far.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1688.sized.jpg

[xxtremeteam]

looks great cant wait to see it done

[DirtyMax]

Great Job so far. I admire your patience as I have zero of the stuff... :thumbsup

[TURTLE]

looks like it's dying for some r/t stripes!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/%2797-%2799_Dodge_Neon_R-T_Coupe.jpg/800px-%2797-%2799_Dodge_Neon_R-T_Coupe.jpg

[HY35F2T]

looks like it's dying for some r/t stripes!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/%2797-%2799_Dodge_Neon_R-T_Coupe.jpg/800px-%2797-%2799_Dodge_Neon_R-T_Coupe.jpg

way to kill my hard on:flipoff2::goof

[Beagle]

looks like it's dying for some r/t stripes!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/%2797-%2799_Dodge_Neon_R-T_Coupe.jpg/800px-%2797-%2799_Dodge_Neon_R-T_Coupe.jpg

In case you didnt notice. That shit is ghey :punch:. Nice work Cryptic that is going to look badass when its done :thumbsup

[TURTLE]

bout as ghey as a white z28 with chrome salad shooters :goof

[Reverend Cooper]

watch out for the epa yo

[Cryptic]

3M 8115 panel bond on the driver side skirt. Door jam lip is completely cut off. It would rub on the door.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1703.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1704.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1705.sized.jpg

Lots of clamps to secure it while it dries.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1709.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1710.sized.jpg


Passenger side skirt blended in. A coat of primer to finish it off.
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1707.sized.jpg
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_1708.sized.jpg

So a little bit of blending on the driver side and the body work is done!

[CPonyGo]

awesome- wish I knew how and had the space for body/paint work

[Bobby "Big Daddy" Flay]

Great progress Andy

[Irish]

Looking good mang.

[xxtremeteam]

looks real good is there a time frame of when you plan to have it running? i assume yoou have the interior or is that going to be all custom as well??

[pw_cc_runner]

So have you decided what weekend works best for me flame that bitch up? A car as badass as this deserves nothing less than flames. :thumbsup

[Reverend Cooper]

looks good

[Lash]

Can you build one for me next?

[Cryptic]

I'm pretty sure the plan is to leave it in primer for the winter, while I move over the motor/interior/etc. Paint next spring.

As for building another, I'm not sure I'll have the will power to go through all this again. Just not enough time in the day.

[Cryptic]

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3414.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3415.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3416.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3417.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3418.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3419.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3420.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3422.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3424.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3426.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3427.sized.jpg

Gotta love this blue...
http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3428.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3430.sized.jpg

http://www.brewcitymuscle.com/albums/rx7_rebuild/IMG_3433.sized.jpg

[Waver]

damn she is loking good

[Holeshot]

Real nice Andy

[srt4eh]

lovin it...keep up the awesome work