2010 pontiac G8 Sport TRUCK

[0TransAm0]

wtf are they thinking?? i like the G8's but come on :chair:


http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2008/112_0806_2010_pontiac_g8_sport_truck_look/index.html



what do you think?

[Windsors 03 Cobra]

Ah nice, they oughta sell about 7 of those and lose money on them all.
I think mgmn't @ GM is inept.

[brotherbenn83]

I guess they learned NOTHING from the flop that was the SSR.

[Deggy]

Guess I will be the first to say that I have seen worse. It doesn't look that bad really.

[07ROUSHSTG3]

not sure what i think yet.

[Flicktitty]

not bad. if it were a wagon i'd be alll over it!

[Karps TA]

They sell great in Aussieland.

And if priced right, which the SSR was not, it'll do alright I bet.

[Deggy]

not bad. if it were a wagon i'd be alll over it!

Poncho Dan may correct me on this, but I do believe there is a G8 wagon in the works. I think its available in Australia already.

[Prince Valiant]

Probably what trucks will look like in the near future due to 35mpg Cafe standards that will include trucks.

THAT particularly won't be what the truck of the future may be...but unibody/car based pick-ups, certainly.

[Z06 KID]

not a bad idea but if people will buy a scion box theyll buy this thing

[twicks69]

Sweet, it looks like the El Camino; and just as ugly.

I hope that someone gets fired at GM for this one.

I wonder if it is the same guy that designed the Aztek. :rolf :rolf
(I know it isn't the same guy == unless they hired him back....)

[Crawlin]

tons of el camino's were sold :)

those sell incredibly well as a holden in aussie land like what was stated above. ironically, one of the "fastest" lsx powerplant vehicles in the world, and thee fastest in australia, is actually one of those holdens, hahaha, not a car.

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/

the designer of it, was someone at holden god knows how many years ago, and i'm sure he's not fired and doing VERY well for himself. they just stuck the GTO front end on that thing, simple as pie. As with a GTO or a G8, i'd just buy the australian parts and stick 'em back on there. look so much better that way than as a pontiac

[team beater]

They sell great in Aussieland.

And if priced right, which the SSR was not, it'll do alright I bet.

x2

[Cryptic]

would not pimp it

[Breecher_7]

I rented the LS1 6-speed version of this thing in 2003 in Darwin, Australia.

There pretty fun.

[Karps TA]

If they price it at around $26K which it should be, considering it's much cheaper in AUS then the sedan, cause you don't have all that interior expense, it'll sell like crazy. A 360hp car/truck for $26K?

I'm really curious about how it does.

Now that said at $4 a gallon not sure how many more 15/24 mpg cars we really need on the road anymore. But had this came out in 03 I bet they couldn't keep them on the lot.

[LEWETHETIGER73]

I personaly like them. Also I think they are very versatile about after market parts and body kits. Look up commadore's

[lordairgtar]

Awesome Aussie!! Since I am a big fan of cars from Oz, I like it. I too would get Holden bits and change it back.

[Neal Steffek]

If they price it at around $26K which it should be, considering it's much cheaper in AUS then the sedan, cause you don't have all that interior expense, it'll sell like crazy. A 360hp car/truck for $26K?

I'm really curious about how it does.

Now that said at $4 a gallon not sure how many more 15/24 mpg cars we really need on the road anymore. But had this came out in 03 I bet they couldn't keep them on the lot.

The problem is that GM will put them on the lot for $33K, and then the dealers will have a $5K market adjust/D bag cost to it so it will actually be a $38K car. And thus not sell at all and be the way of the GTO/G8. As if GM didn't have problems aready, there own dealers are hurting them the most right now.

[Breecher_7]

The problem is that GM will put them on the lot for $33K, and then the dealers will have a $5K market adjust/D bag cost to it so it will actually be a $38K car. And thus not sell at all and be the way of the GTO/G8. As if GM didn't have problems aready, there own dealers are hurting them the most right now.

I personally see more "mark up" on fords then I do GM products and I shop around ALOT.

Always looking for somthing new...

[Karps TA]

First year there will be markups, but nobody is forcing people to pay them. You pay a dealer markup you're part of the problem. If the cars sit on their lots for 6 months to a year and noone buys them, trust me the markups will go away. Somebody will be willing to sell them without the markup.

[Poncho]

First year there will be markups, but nobody is forcing people to pay them. You pay a dealer markup you're part of the problem. If the cars sit on their lots for 6 months to a year and noone buys them, trust me the markups will go away. Somebody will be willing to sell them without the markup.

I haven't seen a single G8 so for with any mark up????

[GTSLOW]

not sure what i think yet.

x2

Although I think its a turn in the right direction. I would have started with a new body style.

[Karps TA]

I haven't seen a single G8 so for with any mark up????

Go to Greenfield Pontiac. $5K Or atleast their first one had it.

[Poncho]

Go to Greenfield Pontiac. $5K Or atleast their first one had it.

Interesting...... I test drove and priced out a a Liquid Red GT, 31.5k Came to about the same as my GTO's sticker after financing. , also eyed up a better equipped Orange GT, 32k. They were ready to deal, no problem.

Also Bob Fish had a Mainstream V6, 28k + Financing

[Breecher_7]

Interesting...... I test drove and priced out a a Liquid Red GT, 31.5k Came to about the same as my GTO's sticker after financing. , also eyed up a better equipped Orange GT, 32k. They were ready to deal, no problem.

Also Bob Fish had a Mainstream V6, 28k + Financing

Same thing that ive seen. None of the ones I looked at had any type of mark up.

[Karps TA]

I told them they were nuts. But whatever. That's why they end up sitting on some cars for so long.

With the 5K hit it brought the car in to be more expensive the the decked out GMC Arcadia that was next to it. Which is kind of an odd comparison when you look at the 2, and realize how much more actual car you're getting with the Arcadia. Not too mention it gets the same gas mileage.

The only mistake the G8 really has is the the V6 gets like only 1 rated mpg better then the V8. So why bother buying the 6?

[Poncho]

so you're mad they detuned the v8 to 361hp from 403 via 87 octane and DoD/AFM and it uses a 6-speed automatic?

I'm sure if they used the 6-speed in the v6 it would likely bump up the economy.. But 3900lbs hurts a ton, I'm sure.

It's just like the Last gen cars.... They made V6's as well..

The base motor in those was the supercharged L67 V6, and the v8 was an LS1. V6 sold poorly and was eventually dropped.

[Karps TA]

I'm not mad, I just think what the hell is the point. The reason behind buying a 6 is to usually get something that doesn't suck gas as much yet you still have the "look" of the car. Like F-bodies. And the 6 is not any better then the 8 in this case. I don't buy the insurance arguement for the G8 cause it's not like 16 year olds are going to be begging for a 4 door regardless.

Doesn't matter to me either way. If gas is $4+ a gallon I won't consider a car that get's less then 20 mpg as a daily driver regardless.

[Poncho]

Yea, "mad" wasn't the right wording.. I know what you mean, but it seems just like the last gen cars, it's hard to have decently motivated v6 that isn't a total dog and have a quite powerful v8, and not have a large MPG gap.

But then again with the late f-bodies, weren't the LS1's getting like 28mpg w/ the LS1 v.s. 31mpg in the v6? Thats pretty close..

I know what you're saying though. gas mileage shouldn't be getting WORSE, but then again

At current prices a 2007 Monte Carlo LT would cost you:
2727/yr driving 15000 miles and eating regular

At current prices a 1998-2002 Camaro would cost you:
$3150/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 2008 G8 would cost you:
$3333/yr driving 15000 miles and eating regular
At current prices a 2005-2008 Ford Mustang GT would cost you:
$3333/yr driving 15000 miles and eating regular
At current prices a 2005-2006 GTO would cost you:
$3500/yr driving 15000 miles and eating reg/premium
At current prices a 1993-1997 Z/28 would cost you:
$3500/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 2003 Mach 1 would cost you:
$3333/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 2003 Cobra would cost you:
$3706/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 1985 Trans Am would cost you:
$3529/yr driving 15000 miles and eating reg/premium

None of these should do less than 20mpg other than the old TA

[Mr Twigbert]

I don't think its all that bad..

[Karps TA]

Yea, "mad" wasn't the right wording.. I know what you mean, but it seems just like the last gen cars, it's hard to have decently motivated v6 that isn't a total dog and have a quite powerful v8, and not have a large MPG gap.

But then again with the late f-bodies, weren't the LS1's getting like 28mpg w/ the LS1 v.s. 31mpg in the v6? Thats pretty close..

I know what you're saying though. gas mileage shouldn't be getting WORSE, but then again

At current prices a 2007 Monte Carlo LT would cost you:
2727/yr driving 15000 miles and eating regular

At current prices a 1998-2002 Camaro would cost you:
$3150/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 2008 G8 would cost you:
$3333/yr driving 15000 miles and eating regular
At current prices a 2005-2008 Ford Mustang GT would cost you:
$3333/yr driving 15000 miles and eating regular
At current prices a 2005-2006 GTO would cost you:
$3500/yr driving 15000 miles and eating reg/premium
At current prices a 1993-1997 Z/28 would cost you:
$3500/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 2003 Mach 1 would cost you:
$3333/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 2003 Cobra would cost you:
$3706/yr driving 15000 miles and eating premium
At current prices a 1985 Trans Am would cost you:
$3529/yr driving 15000 miles and eating reg/premium

None of these should do less than 20mpg other than the old TA


I drive 95% city driving, and only put on about 12,000 miles a year. The Monte has avg a little better then 23mpg almost 24 the last 2 month. So at $4 a gallon it's $2,087

Switching to a G8 at the same miles per year would be an increase to a min of $3200 a year. And I say min, cause I'm thinking with 360hp on tap and RWD, I likely wouldn't be driving it the same as the Monte. I'm thinking alot more aggressive.:shades

So $1,100 more a year in gas, or $91 more a month. Damn, I hate doing math.

The TA I'm not even pulling out this year it looks like. I just don't want to give more money to the oil companies then I have to right now. I'd rather spend that money on strippers and booze.

[Poncho]

The TA I'm not even pulling out this year it looks like. I just don't want to give more money to the oil companies then I have to right now. I'd rather spend that money on strippers and booze.

:rolf:rolf At least it'll be in good shape for another year to come..

[dfr225]

thats just stupid logic there..

[SmokinRAM114]

whatcha know about a dodge rampage :rolf i wouldnt sport it and im a truck guy

[Karps TA]

:rolf:rolf At least it'll be in good shape for another year to come..

I don't give a crap to be honest. Car's paid for, so letting it sit doesn't hurt me in anyway. And if I change my mind I can always pull it out. But bitching about gas prices and not changing anything personally doesn't accomplish anything.

[Poncho]

I don't give a crap to be honest. Car's paid for, so letting it sit doesn't hurt me in anyway. And if I change my mind I can always pull it out. But bitching about gas prices and not changing anything personally doesn't accomplish anything.

I think you misread me... I consider your TA a classic car. I can totally understand not putting it on the road, and it's not like it's gonna hurt anything by not driving it. My dad's '55 Bel-Air still hasn't been on the road yet this year, as far as I know.

[Karps TA]

ahh sorry. I've just been given alot of crap about my decision. :thumbsup

[pw_cc_runner]

not bad. if it were a wagon i'd be alll over it!

I always have good info its just 30 posts late...

THE WAGON

http://www.netcarshow.com/holden/2008-ve_commodore_sportwagon

[Poncho]

Now all they gotta do is make the Coupe 60 a reality and a vert and they covered all bases.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/2309737584_25bfa2d720_b.jpg

[Karps TA]

That coupe is hot.

GM needs to start making some more coupe's period. Not everyone wants a 4 door.

[pw_cc_runner]

I did this photoshop a few months bad of the Ute with the Coupe 60 cladding and concept camaro wheels

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/pw_cc_runner/OriginalUteSS-1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/pw_cc_runner/CustomUteSS-1.jpg

[07ROUSHSTG3]

WOW!! that coupe is HOT!!

[0TransAm0]

i like it with the side exit exhaust.. :thumbsup

[Crawlin]

some guy just layed into one of our sales guy's today. literally 30 minutes ago. all about the $25,000 dealer markup on our shelby gt500 convertible, hahaha. said that this was the reason he never set foot in a ford store after the last time, and surely won't be again in the future. i told the salesperson that he should have said, "you are more than welcome to go into our chevy store when the ZR1 hits and see the 100k markup. You know our owner will do that.

Funny thing is, the guy I think was more pissed off when the sales guy handled it perfectly. Told him it's there to seperate the dreamers from the buyers. We'd be more than willing to take that off, but won't sell it for invoice or anywhere close.

I REALLY REALLY wish I would have waited and not got the Impala. But it was one of those things where I needed a new car. I knew the G8 was coming. I can honestly see that thing selling pretty well. How many people are buying up those regular cab Silverado's at Holz all fancied up w/ chrome wheels. How many people bought Silverado SS's? Trailblazer SS's?

[0TransAm0]

they really mark up the stangs 25k?? seriously?

[Crawlin]

JUST the GT500 shelby. Like i said, ONLY to seperate the tire kickers from the real buyers. it definitely works that way. our REAL buyers for 'em, since we do have two of them, have stayed and worked numbers

i think uptown sold their GT500KR for $70,000 dealer markup

[0TransAm0]

:woooholy jebus:wooo:wooo