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juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 04:03 PM
I can't show the pix yet,but i will soon.
:D

nismodave
05-01-2008, 04:04 PM
:pics

GRNDNL
05-01-2008, 04:07 PM
Fantasy Race Car..............

juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 04:09 PM
ok,one quick pic..
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/intercooler.jpg

scaleracer
05-01-2008, 04:12 PM
ok,one quick pic..
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/intercooler.jpg

I know what it is! Should I tell?? I heard it dynoed pretty good also!

juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 04:12 PM
add that to
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/blower.jpg

equals some 93 octane fun.

scaleracer
05-01-2008, 04:14 PM
add that to
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/blower.jpg

equals some 93 octane fun.

You gave it away... Alright its Plimptons Tbird I heard it dynoed over 1700 hp :shades

juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 04:18 PM
naw,they didnt charge him that much to dyno it.

Prince Valiant
05-01-2008, 04:19 PM
pft. Velour interior. Let me know when you step up to crushed velvet.

scaleracer
05-01-2008, 04:24 PM
naw,they didnt charge him that much to dyno it.

lol! i only put 1700 hp... :goof

nismodave
05-01-2008, 04:25 PM
HOLY SHIT.......I need spots.

juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 04:28 PM
im not goin to reveal much more for now,Im certain Dr Ford will chime in when he get a few minutes.
This car should have a good shot at going a few rounds in memphis next weekend.

Crawlin
05-01-2008, 04:28 PM
PSSSH. pump gas bowlshit!!!

couple people on this board should steer clear... at their height they could be sucked in

BOSS LX
05-01-2008, 04:35 PM
Nice! Ford Power!:headbang

One question though. How come that turbo has no hot side?:goof


And I hope to god, that the carb is on there only to cover up that hole until the elbow arrives!

scaleracer
05-01-2008, 04:36 PM
Oh Wait that the new motor for the COW! :shades :rolf

badvenom
05-01-2008, 04:43 PM
holy smokes

Flicktitty
05-01-2008, 04:57 PM
Holy schnikes! what is that in?

FourEyedFord
05-01-2008, 05:02 PM
Sweet!!!!!
Who's carb is he running, and what fuel pump?
Is that 1700hp on pump gas, and where did they dyno it?

juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 05:07 PM
Sweet!!!!!
Who's carb is he running, and what fuel pump?
Is that 1700hp on pump gas, and where did they dyno it?

its a csu.
i dont remember what pump(i even looked at it when i tightened the fuel line..)
it was dyno'ed on vp93 and made 18psi......someplace in Michigan :devil

FourEyedFord
05-01-2008, 05:17 PM
its a csu.
i dont remember what pump(i even looked at it when i tightened the fuel line..)
it was dyno'ed on vp93 and made 18psi......someplace in Michigan :devil

In Michigan, must be Steve Morris then.

Was it a belt drive pump?

Very cool setup!!

GRNDNL
05-01-2008, 05:17 PM
You need one of those blue air filters, pick up 15hp for sure, maybe more....

juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 05:19 PM
In Michigan, must be Steve Morris then.

Was it a belt drive pump?

Very cool setup!!


correct.


its a gear driven unit.

BOSS LX
05-01-2008, 05:19 PM
Holy schnikes! what is that in?

Fox T-Bird

FourEyedFord
05-01-2008, 05:26 PM
correct.


its a gear driven unit.

On a side note, how the fu(k did he get his hands on a set of DNS PCI bowls? I have been waiting for months to get my hands on them from the other guys! :D

They told me that I have to wait for Gordon's new bowls at Superior Airflow.

juicedimpss
05-01-2008, 06:29 PM
steve supplied the carb.i think it might have been intended for his personal car,although im not sure.

juicedimpss
05-02-2008, 12:11 AM
a few more pix from tonite

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/IMAGE_00048.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/IMAGE_00049.jpg
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/IMAGE_00045.jpg

FourEyedFord
05-02-2008, 12:41 AM
Now where have I seen a radiator mounted like that before........

Didn't Ford intend fox bodies for forward facing power adders?!?!?! :D

http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/1/1621561530.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic/7506070)


Looks good guys! Sh!t, now it looks like at best I can get position three for "Fastest Blow-thrus" in the area. At least I will be behind two black FORD powered foxes. :headbang

juicedimpss
05-02-2008, 12:45 AM
Now where have I seen a radiator mounted like that before........


just like chevy did with the corvette

hehehehe

nismodave
05-02-2008, 04:06 PM
One hell of a car......Good LUCK!!!

1fast2litre
05-04-2008, 02:15 PM
Jims car is gonna be badass cant wait to see it run :headbang

juicedimpss
05-05-2008, 08:05 AM
Sweet!!!!!
Who's carb is he running, and what fuel pump?


the CSU crapped out already...

now has a c&s aerosal dominator. its running,just a few things to button up.

Moparjim
05-05-2008, 09:24 AM
Small world. I recently ran out of gas in my non working gas gauge Jeep maybe about a week ago and am pretty sure I walked right past that car in the garage. Asked the guys inside if they happened to have any gas lol. I knew Jim Plimpton back in the day and didn't recognize him apparently but I am almost sure that is the car...

Hell of a sweet car!

1siksrt
05-05-2008, 10:13 AM
amazing car ron...

juicedimpss
05-05-2008, 11:08 AM
amazing car ron...

thanks,i wish i could take credit for the build.

im just a helper among a BUNCH of guys over there.:thumbsup

DoubleAron
05-05-2008, 12:10 PM
the CSU crapped out already...

now has a c&s aerosal dominator. its running,just a few things to button up.

What exactly does crapped out mean?

juicedimpss
05-05-2008, 12:47 PM
What exactly does crapped out mean?

it has some fuel enrichment tubes in the bottom of the ventur. one of them on the primary side would drain the fuel from thee float bowl and drain it in less than 2 minutes.
something is not right in the metering block is my guess.

Car Guy
05-05-2008, 07:22 PM
When did Jim become the owner of that...??? I was hoping Stan would get sick/tired of trying to sell it and just end up giving it to me.....:devil :devil :devil

But seriously, I'm glad to see he got it and can't believe where it's headed. AWESOME...!!! :stare :stare :stare


Is Jim a member on BCM...???






:3gears: :3gears: :3gears:

juicedimpss
05-06-2008, 11:51 PM
testing testing 123
hahaha
this is going to fly.

juicedimpss
05-07-2008, 04:44 PM
teaser test clip from last night.
http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/juicedimpss/?action=view&current=MOV01092.flv

70sschev
05-07-2008, 09:29 PM
I know what it is! Should I tell?? I heard it dynoed pretty good also!

no matt shhhh! lol its cool but blows the tires away! too much HP!!!:thumbsup:rolf:headbang

70sschev
05-07-2008, 09:36 PM
I can't show the pix yet,but i will soon.
:D

if ur regarding to hp ron i kno! i went and saw the car! lol:thumbsup

Z06 KID
05-08-2008, 04:23 PM
that thing is AMAZING

88blknotch
05-08-2008, 07:26 PM
meh shits weak.

Reverend Cooper
05-08-2008, 07:27 PM
shitsweak, ^ he is gay

FourEyedFord
05-08-2008, 08:21 PM
meh shits weak.

:rolf:rolf

juicedimpss
05-08-2008, 11:52 PM
we took some power out.................















8.55 @172.41


shits weak.

Car Guy
05-09-2008, 12:06 AM
we took some power out.................

8.55 @172.41


shits weak.


There has got to be more than that in it, right...??? :headbang






:3gears: :3gears: :3gears:

Flicktitty
05-09-2008, 12:24 AM
we took some power out.................















8.55 @172.41


shits weak.
damn skeetin

juicedimpss
05-09-2008, 01:46 AM
There has got to be more than that in it, right...??? :headbang






:3gears: :3gears: :3gears:

mph yes yes.
;)

jbiscuit
05-09-2008, 09:21 AM
NICE!!!!! more runs today? Hows the weather down there?

juicedimpss
05-09-2008, 11:36 AM
not sure if we are going to hit the track today or not. weather is warm and humid. hopefully it stays dry.
im trying to get the vid posted.

jbiscuit
05-09-2008, 11:47 AM
awesome....hope it goes well for you guys ron! Post the vid when you can!!

DurtyKurty
05-09-2008, 12:27 PM
Nice! Ford Power!:headbang

One question though. How come that turbo has no hot side?:goof


Ha! I had to look at that one again! Didn't even notice that. Next thing you know, they will be bolting them things right to the front of the crank. :) Is that one of those planetary geared SC's?

Crawlin
05-09-2008, 01:04 PM
******* supra. hahahaha

wheelsofsteel
05-09-2008, 01:57 PM
Awesome !!! Cant wait to see the video(s)

So where did that land you guys for the test and tune last night?? On another site someone that is down there stated that there was a bunch of cars in the 9sec range and a Nove that went 8.50.

juicedimpss
05-09-2008, 05:31 PM
there was a small block nova that was there,I think he also ran 850 or 60 with it.
I know we are on top for mph as of right now.
we wkill be making a few more test hits tonite at midnight madness.
stay tuned for more.

FourEyedFord
05-09-2008, 11:05 PM
Ha! I had to look at that one again! Didn't even notice that. Next thing you know, they will be bolting them things right to the front of the crank. :) Is that one of those planetary geared SC's?

I'm pretty sure it is a supercharger store gear drive unit.

SBF pic:
http://www.thesuperchargerstore.com/smallblockford-geardrive1.html

juicedimpss
05-09-2008, 11:28 PM
8.44 @174


shits weak

BOSS LX
05-10-2008, 09:57 AM
8.44 @174


shits weak

It looks like he has the field covered!


BBF power!:headbang

Crawlin
05-10-2008, 10:46 AM
Keep Updating Me Ron. Sorry I Couldn't Hear You When I Was In The Bar Last Night

DynoTom
05-10-2008, 11:56 AM
watch this link for updated info




http://www.hotrod.com/eventcoverage/hrdp_0805w_2008_pump_gas_drag_coverage/index.html

DynoTom
05-10-2008, 09:05 PM
http://www.1320video.com/img/album456/DSC03449.sized.jpg

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 04:29 AM
The crappy weather has pushed PGD final runs to Sunday. Racers are due at the track at 11:30 and racing will resume at 12:00. You can still watch the action live at:
Live Pump Gas Drags Action
Who will be champ? We'll all find out Sunday starting at noon.

juicedimpss
05-11-2008, 01:22 PM
this just in............


t-bird won the event.

Reverend Cooper
05-11-2008, 01:24 PM
wow thats way cool

nismodave
05-11-2008, 01:25 PM
Congrats!!!

BOSS LX
05-11-2008, 01:29 PM
****K YEAH!

Good job guys, this is HUGE!


Ford Power!!!!!!!

Crawlin
05-11-2008, 01:29 PM
Hell Yeah!!!!!

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 01:31 PM
AWESOME JOB ! :banana1:

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 01:37 PM
Think about how little time Jim has running this car....new engine combo...un familair track ....not a lot of time to figure out suspension and tuning ....really is quite a accomplishment to win PGD 2008....

juicedimpss
05-11-2008, 01:43 PM
Think about how little time Jim has running this car....new engine combo...un familair track ....not a lot of time to figure out suspension and tuning ....really is quite a accomplishment to win PGD 2008....

the first time the new combo saw the track was tuesday....the day before the car left for memphis.:wow

Alex d
05-11-2008, 01:45 PM
Good job guys :thumbsup

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 01:46 PM
The THUNDERBIRD will be on the cover of the August issue of Hot Rod magazine!

Crawlin
05-11-2008, 01:49 PM
full article will be happening i'm sure. or atleast you'd hope so since they were all masterbating to the viper the past couple years

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 01:52 PM
full article will be happening i'm sure. or atleast you'd hope so since they were all masterbating to the viper the past couple years

Yup, while I was searching the net for info on the event it seems that just about everyone was saying that the TT VIPER was going to take PGD 2008.... One of the few guys I found who was "not so fast" to give the win the the TT Viper was Jim with his Pro Charged Thunderbird..

70sschev
05-11-2008, 02:43 PM
DR Ford and crew way to kick ass! Gald to see that Steve Morris HP paid off!
congrats from Mike and Justin S.

scaleracer
05-11-2008, 02:47 PM
Congrats that's Awesome! :headbang

FourEyedFord
05-11-2008, 02:51 PM
Nice work guys!!

Ford power and a carb, were there any doubts! :D

scaleracer
05-11-2008, 04:18 PM
Heres the 1st round eliminations vid! Some bada$$ cars!http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Pump-Gas-Drags-2008-Round-1-Eliminations-by-Mellon_160902.htm

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 04:29 PM
It was the Thunderbird and the TT Nova for the title..the TT Viper red lighted in the semifinals....I also heard the TT Viper ripped a high 7 second pass for exhibition...

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 05:40 PM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/8liter/P1010428.jpg

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 05:41 PM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/8liter/P1010430.jpg

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 05:43 PM
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/8liter/P1010429.jpg

Flicktitty
05-11-2008, 05:46 PM
thats badasss! Congrats.

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 05:48 PM
572, A headed, Blow through carb, F3 139 gear driven engine...

DynoTom
05-11-2008, 05:50 PM
Rpm Hp Tq
5000 1124 1181
5500 1311 1252
6000 1451 1270
6500 1643 1328
7000 1723 1293

scottie K
05-11-2008, 06:03 PM
http://http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/8liter/?action=view&current=P1010464.flv

nismodave
05-11-2008, 06:04 PM
Linkie no workie, Skottie.

scottie K
05-11-2008, 06:05 PM
<embed width="448" height="361" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" src="http://s95.photobucket.com/flash/player.swf?file=http://vid95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/8liter/P1010464.flv"></embed>

scottie K
05-11-2008, 06:05 PM
http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l136/8liter/?action=view&current=P1010464.flv

DoubleAron
05-11-2008, 06:35 PM
Nice job!

I see it's still got the CSU carb on it!;):thumbsup

juicedimpss
05-11-2008, 06:57 PM
Nice job!

I see it's still got the CSU carb on it!;):thumbsup

and we had the same problem as the other csu that was on it before too.

nothing like a lil JB quick to make it work.

*SNOOP*
05-11-2008, 07:03 PM
3 words..... BAD A$$ CAR!!!

juicedimpss
05-11-2008, 07:10 PM
day 2 video
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Pump-Gas-Drags-2008-Day-2-Eliminations-by-Mellon--_161038.htm

HITMAN
05-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Huge congratulations to Jim "Dr. Ford" Plimpton. Way to go. :thumbsup

I wish I could have been there to see it in person. :(

You should have stuck that "APE SHIT" plate of yours on that thing. How cool would that have been?... :D

scaleracer
05-11-2008, 10:14 PM
day 2 video
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Pump-Gas-Drags-2008-Day-2-Eliminations-by-Mellon--_161038.htm

Very nice vid!

jbiscuit
05-12-2008, 08:40 AM
awesome vid and good work you guys! That thing is flyin!

DoubleAron
05-12-2008, 09:03 AM
and we had the same problem as the other csu that was on it before too.

nothing like a lil JB quick to make it work.

None the less the car rocks!

Moparjim
05-12-2008, 11:10 AM
Congrats on the awesome times, and the win. Super impressive for a car that was just finished!

On a side note, Lee Saunders - the Viper guy - must be jinxed or something. Last year he really had the field covered and got DQ'ed for getting lost and missing a checkpoint on the cruise or something stupid. This year he won his quarterfinal but then had to rerun it due to a "timing error" and managed to red light on the rerun. He cracked off a 7.90something, absolutely retarded on pump gas!

jbiscuit
05-12-2008, 11:17 AM
^^^ that guy IS jinxed! This event is not for him! lol

wheelsofsteel
05-12-2008, 11:19 AM
He cracked off a 7.90something, absolutely retarded on pump gas!

My understanding is that the 7.99 pass was an "exhibition throw race gas in and crank it up" run.
Otherwise why would he need to push the tree so hard and red light against an 8.50 car ?!?!
Never the less the car is super nasty.

DynoTom
05-12-2008, 11:38 AM
My understanding is that the 7.99 pass was an "exhibition throw race gas in and crank it up" run.
Otherwise why would he need to push the tree so hard and red light against an 8.50 car ?!?!
Never the less the car is super nasty.



I heard the same....also Jims T BIRD has more left in it even on the pump gas it was running at PGD....I'm sure with more time driving it and tuning it that BIRD will be even meaner !!!

1fast2litre
05-12-2008, 11:50 AM
My understanding is that the 7.99 pass was an "exhibition throw race gas in and crank it up" run.
Otherwise why would he need to push the tree so hard and red light against an 8.50 car ?!?!
Never the less the car is super nasty.

I think Jim should have put race gas in it and took some of Lees money :headbang

juicedimpss
05-12-2008, 01:17 PM
on behalf of the entire t-bird crew....thanks for the compliments and thanks for rooting for us.

Dr. Ford
05-12-2008, 10:59 PM
I would like to personally thank all of you who have supported us in this. Ron from clocksoffracing, it would'nt have been possible without your skills! Cory Peters, who worked with me and sometimes without me until 3am, for believing in me seeing it to the end, we did it! Steve Morris Racing Engines for MORE than delivering on a promise. Metz Performance, Absolutely-The Metz Advantage!! Scaled the car and made subtle adjustments, Over-the-phone chassis changes that worked! Windsor Motorsports,Shane the Tigmaster!!! My Wife Melonie, my son Jimmy, thanks for letting an old man live a dream! Stan Bartol, who built the car originally and truly confirmed the meaning of Craftsmanship, You made it a hell of alot easier to make it a National Champion! Astro Tool and Die, Elmer and Nick who at the drop of a hat custom fabbed brackets, tabs, etc., thanks so much! I am sure in my old age I am forgetting people, please understand it took ALL of you to make it happen.
Now to set the record straight and to get rid of all the BS...
On the 8:31 @ 175 pass (best ET of the event) the car got stupid in the eyes, the 'chute did not make it happen, it made it straighten out. There was a 35 mph crosswind after I passed the grandstands and hit me in the drivers side of the car, I don't know if that cause it or not, it just got stupid. EVERY PASS AFTER THAT I PEDALLED THE CAR TO WIN. There was nothing wrong with the car, except a small oil leak by the external oil pump which caused it to smoke. I did'nt want to use the laundry...not sure at the time what got the car crooked. Listen close to the videos of the final runs, I got out of it after I was out on them, you can her the rpm's drop WAY before the time flashes up.
Lee Saunders with the Viper and his whole crew including his father were great people. In a very friendly way and in no uncertain terms I told Lee that I was there gunnin' for him. I ASKED HIM for an exhibition run with me after he unfortunately red lit against Big Block Shawn in the T/A vs. Viper rerun (timers went haywire). After the final round and struggling with a LR slick going flat, only 8.5 volts left in the battery and a broken oil pressure 45* fitting ready to empty 10 quarts of oil under my tires, we decided that we should run in Orlando later this year to see who has the quickest and fastest pump gas car. His car went 7:99 at 182 with the 'Bird huntin' tune-up in the exhibition run. Great job Lee!!
Here is some facts about OUR tune-up...
8:31 @ 175 with only 24* total timing, a whopping 18lbs of boost @7000rpm, non adjustable rear shocks, single adjustable front struts and just killing timing to get it to hook in less than a week (1:41 60 foot-LAME). You guys do the math...
Think there is some left in the Ol' Henry??!!!
Don't mess with Brew city-
We got your back!!!!!!!!
Dr. Ford and
clocksoffracing.com

Dr. Ford
05-12-2008, 11:14 PM
Oh yeah, my brother from another mutha Charlie at Auto Trans Design- the trans God, Jason Nauman and Matt Flintrop, Flash and Andy Dermody, thanks guys!!!!And of course Randy Dolensek at RD's truck service, you know him as the Mod/SS green 1969 Cyclone wheelie monster and my Ford brother.
Thanks

awsomeears
05-23-2008, 01:06 AM
Only thing left to do is show up stan's layton burnouts @ Amelia's car show with the extra Horse Power you have. haha

Congrats !!!

I have a feeling Steve Morris will turn some heads his way