Anyone using a Wideband O2 sensor?

[badass88gt]

Here's what I want to do. I want to log A/F ratio, RPM, fuel pressure, vacuum, and throttle position. This is on a carb'd car.

Do I want something from Innovate, AEM, Zeitronix? Something else? Those are the 3 Ive been eyeing, the Innovate stuff seems expensive and I dont like the big box.

Tell me exactly what I'd need for these, I'm thinking I'd need either:

The LC-1 or the LM-1 plus the RPM Convertor from Innovate,

The Zeitronix plus their LCD display
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

Or what would I need for the AEM?

Thanks-Dan

[nismodave]

Thats funny, Im in the market for a wideband also. This is what Im buying. Totally Pimp.:shades

You can have one 52 mm or 60mm gauge displaying many different sensors. Watch the video on the right.

Move your mouse to where it say products, then scroll down to imfd sensor modules. It shows you what other modules are available.

http://www.plxdevices.com/products/dm100/smafrcombo/

[forest]

a certain vette will be running a autometer wb soon, Ill let you know how it does.

[nitroxtreme]

I just bought a LM-1 with RPM converter...It's pretty cool. I also added a dyno tune lean switch(shuts down the nos at a given A/F ratio..Still messing with it, so not a pro yet..

[CannotPost]

Here's what I want to do. I want to log A/F ratio, RPM, fuel pressure, vacuum, and throttle position. This is on a carb'd car.

Do I want something from Innovate, AEM, Zeitronix? Something else? Those are the 3 Ive been eyeing, the Innovate stuff seems expensive and I dont like the big box.

Tell me exactly what I'd need for these, I'm thinking I'd need either:

The LC-1 or the LM-1 plus the RPM Convertor from Innovate,

The Zeitronix plus their LCD display
http://www.zeitronix.com/Products/zt2/zt2.htm

Or what would I need for the AEM?

Thanks-Dan

I am running a Innovate LC-1, DL-32 and an XD-16. The setup is quite nice, it logs AFR, Boost, Throttle position, RPM's and fuel pressure. I started with a LC-1 and gauge (XD-16) It worked great but you needed the laptop to data log. I added a DL-32 got 5 more data channels and it records directly to a SD memory card. Just push the record button on the gauge and you are saving all the data. Later pop in the SD card to your computer!

Here is a shot of where I placed the XD-16
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/2449139366_efbc366369.jpg

And the DL-32 wired into the glovebox. You can see the memory card in the picture too!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3136/2449145744_782c79f8f3.jpg

[A B4C Z]

i have 2 lc1s that i was using one is for sale it has about 10k on it with a small gauge in red.

[badass88gt]

I'm leaning more towards the Zeitronix, havent seen any complaints. Ive used the Innovate stuff before, dont really care for it and theyre crazy expensive.

[SLOWC5]

I will be installing a PLX wideband this week

[Yellow2k1vette]

a certain vette will be running a autometer wb soon, Ill let you know how it does.I have an Autometer Cobalt wideband gauge that's supposed to have a 0-4v data output mode for use with scan/tune software, but despite what the instructions say, mine doesn't do that...it's merely an expensive and inaccurate piece of pillar decoration. :rolleyes:

I have a PLX SM-AFR wideband in the other pipe for logging/tuning.

:haveabeer

[SLOWC5]

it's merely an expensive and inaccurate piece of pillar decoration. :rolleyes:




Now thats funny

[ND4SPD]

My wideband is integrated into my ProEFI standalone. The Innovate, PLX (that new display is pretty neat), and Zeitronix are all great systems though. Prior to deciding on the ProEFI though I was planning on putting in the FJO wideband.

Once the end-user software for the ProEFI is released I'll be able to do all the logging I could ever want.

I tested out the software for most of the already mentioned systems and I'm trying to remember which was the best... I think the PLX was the most feature rich. That may be something you should do... go to their websites and see if you can download the logging software for the various manufacturers. Then see if you can determine which you like the best.

[FourEyedFord]

I just bought this Innovate kit from RaceTechDirect.
http://www.racetechdirect.com/products/kit_tuner.htm

I haven't used it yet, but I got it all wired up and ready to go. It comes with the fuel pressure sensor, it logs RPM (First Channel), and it records any other 0-5v analog signals for two other channels (4 Total). The only thing about the unit is that it is VERY particular about how it wants wires run, particularily grounds. They also speak to you in the directions like you have a degree in electronics.

Overall from what I have seen, people seem pretty happy with them. I quess I will find out! :D

[CannotPost]

The only thing about the unit is that it is VERY particular about how it wants wires run, particularily grounds. They also speak to you in the directions like you have a degree in electronics.


You just need to make sure the Innovate hardware is grounded to the same point as your sensors. They sure do make it sound complex tho.

[2 bad z's]

innovative lc-1 here on both cars ,work fine ,also customer service is excellent

[2 bad z's]

You just need to make sure the Innovate hardware is grounded to the same point as your sensors. They sure do make it sound complex tho.it is actually very simple to wire

[CobaltSSTuner]

i know you guys are going to say "ah thats gay its a cobalt site blah blah blah" but I'm looking out for you guys to maybe save you some money so here ya go. the cobalt forum i' m on is having a group buy on innovate widebands. the widebands are universal so they will work for any car.

The GB is for all innovate wideband kits.

http://www.allecotec.com/index.php?cPath=7_65

Here is a link to the thread with the discount code.

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=108706

[That_Guy]

i know you guys are going to say "ah thats gay its a cobalt site blah blah blah" but I'm looking out for you guys to maybe save you some money so here ya go. the cobalt forum i' m on is having a group buy on innovate widebands. the widebands are universal so they will work for any car.

The GB is for all innovate wideband kits.

http://www.allecotec.com/index.php?cPath=7_65

Here is a link to the thread with the discount code.

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=108706

these are great wide bands... and the discount on these is amazing! enter the promotional code at the check out and see

[badass88gt]

LOL, holy shit. PLX users should read what this guy just posted about his experience with their TECH dapartment....scroll to the bottom.


http://bbs.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45154

[nismodave]

Very interesting.

[CobaltSSTuner]

wowzers

[badass88gt]

My favorite part is the PLX tech telling him "If I needed an accurate wideband in all circumstances, and needed to be notified of any issues by the software, like a heater circuit failure, the PLX is probably not the wideband for me."

[Syclone0044]

Satisfied PLX customer here for 5 years, and I tune my cars to the ragged edge.

[juicedimpss]

Satisfied PLX customer here for 5 years, and I tune my cars to the ragged edge.

its not worth tuning the AFR to the ragged edge IMO.

[badass88gt]

Satisfied PLX customer here for 5 years, and I tune my cars to the ragged edge.

Yeah, but how accurate are your tunes if the PLX has no way to tell you the sensor is bad, or needs to be recalibrated? Thats what has swayed me towards the Innovate, Ive seen a couple of horror stories now with "used-up" sensors.

[CannotPost]

Yeah, but how accurate are your tunes if the PLX has no way to tell you the sensor is bad, or needs to be recalibrated? Thats what has swayed me towards the Innovate, Ive seen a couple of horror stories now with "used-up" sensors.

I had a O2 sensor go bad on my Innovate system, I noted some slow-ness (on the gauge) and odd readings about a week before the Innovate system showed an error.

[badass88gt]

http://www.allecotec.com/index.php?cPath=7_65


That place sucks balls. I emailed them for a price on stuff not listed on their site the day you posted that and never heard back.

[DurtyKurty]

That place sucks balls. I emailed them for a price on stuff not listed on their site the day you posted that and never heard back.

That's funny. I did the same thing and the guy got back to me the same hour letting me know that he didn't stock it. This was a couple of weeks ago. Now I just got another email from him letting me know that he now has it in stock.

And that discount code is worth 18% off, plus the free shipping is a crazy good deal on the Innovate stuff. Best I have seen.

[badass88gt]

Too late. I already have it.

[DurtyKurty]

what did you end up getting?

[badass88gt]

A friend and I went halves on an LM1 and LMA3.

[DurtyKurty]

That's cool. I have an LM-1 and the LMA-2. It's been good to me.

[WhatsADSM]

Just as an FYI if someone is building on a budget. It also can log RPM and 2 external voltages:
http://www.14point7.com/JAW/JAW.htm
You could probably get the whole thing for just under $100 if you were willing to solder it together and didn't need a display (i.e. could use a laptop or have something else to log with).


Otherwise I've run innovative, PLX, and AEM. Honestly for the simplicity I actually like the AEM, simple and it works, well calibrated from the factory and I have an EMS to log anyways.

[DurtyKurty]

Thanks for that link. I kinda like that thing. I've been wanting to do a permanent WB install with an LC-1, but I don't like the idea of adding yet another 2-1/16" gauge. And that is pretty dang cheap for what you get.