Need SUV suggestions

[Flicktitty]

Hey guys. My mom is looking for a new SUV to take over her 2003 Toyota Sequoia. She is really happy with the quality and build of the Toyotas she has had 2001 4Runner and the 2003 Sequoia. But it's time for something new.

My dad would like to get her either another Sequoia or MAYBE a 4Runner.

But is open to ideas.

Here is the thing though it can't be leather (both parents hate it)
Needs to be 4WD
NEEDS TO BE BIG! no escapes/highlanders/etc
looking to spend less then 50K let me know what you guys think we should go look at.

Thanks.

[T-Bag]

How about a new Chevy Tahoe? IMO, they are the perfect size for an SUV, not small like a TB and not a land yacht like a Suburban. You can get basically any model you want for less than 50k...even the ltz

[forest]

trailblazer SS used go for about 40k have an LS2 AWD and looks great, fairly big too.

[JC70SS]

I would guess an SS will only come in leather. Go Tahoe LS. I believe they have a special on them right now.

[H8RADE]

2008 Land Cruiser.
http://www.autospies.com/images/users/XeroK00L/lc.jpg

[03CVLX]

You can go as far as the LT1 package on a Tahoe/Yukon to get more of the luxury items while still keeping the most important part. NO LEATHER!! I did a quick build your own with just about every available option and it comes in at 41K after $2000 rebate off the sticker price

I have also been hearing some good stuff about the 2007 Expeditions, although I have never driven one of the new ones personally. After a quick build on an Expedition XLT you are at about 38K after a 2500 rebate off the sticker price on that.

[johnny--2k]

I can get her into an expedition for that price, easily.....

do they want nav, moonroof, rear dvd, any of that stuff?

[88Nightmare]

the problem with expeditions now a days is they are Ford.




Trailblazer SS's can be had in cloth, look for a 1SS trim level, not a 3SS trim level. They are out there, just more limited then the leather ones.

I would suggest that, or a Tahoe/Yukon.

[Waver]

go with the land criuser, one of the best built suv's out there

[03CVLX]

go with the land criuser, one of the best built suv's out there

Yep, They are great trucks they just want stupid money for them. Base price with no options is $63,200 load it up with the upgrade package and a couple of the accessories and its $72,000 :wooo

[wikked]

women don't need SUV's :)

[juicedimpss]

women don't need SUV's :)

mini van FTW

[Waver]

Yep, They are great trucks they just want stupid money for them. Base price with no options is $63,200 :wooo


They must of jumped a bit since I worked for toyota, back then they were 50-60 k. Even a used one dosnt go for much less than that.

[88Nightmare]

They must of jumped a bit since I worked for toyota, back then they were 50-60 k. Even a used one dosnt go for much less than that.

well considering flickys parents dont wanna spend more then 50k, back when you worked for toyota, a landcruiser would still have been out of the question now wouldn't it? :rolf :rolf :rolf

[xxtremeteam]

this would be my only choice for a suv
vw touareg with v6,v8 or v10tdi im sure theres a engine option for what you need
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/xxtremeteam/20060922-2007-vw-volkswagen-tuareg-.jpg

[88Nightmare]

this would be my only choice for a suv
vw touareg with v6,v8 or v10tdi im sure theres a engine option for what you need
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o64/xxtremeteam/20060922-2007-vw-volkswagen-tuareg-.jpg

The TDI Touareg with the V10TDI.... wow tiny motor for 10 cylinders. 4.9 liter :wooo

[wrath]

Touareg, at least the original one, had the same kwality issues as the Liberty. The FJ Cruiser is equally as crappy.

The Armada is kind of neat but a dog.

If you guys don't use it for towing you should consider the better gas mileage unibody vehicles. The Acadia/Enclave/Outlook get decent economy yet are capable people haulers (and about the same size as a Sequoia).

If you're talking a Real SUV (aka, tow with it) get a Tahoe or Yukon. Domestic is still king of the full-framed SUV market. And with GM you get tons better economy than any other Real SUV. The current body style doesn't look generic like all the other SUVs out there either.

[xxtremeteam]

The TDI Touareg with the V10TDI.... wow tiny motor for 10 cylinders. 4.9 liter :wooo

from vw spec-310 hp and 553torque at 2000rpm i bet your 5.4 out performs that right
http://www.vw.com/touareg/completespecs/en/us/#/show_all

[88Nightmare]

from vw spec-310 hp and 553torque at 2000rpm i bet your 5.4 out performs that right
http://www.vw.com/touareg/completespecs/en/us/#/show_all

didnt know silverados came with a 5.4 :rolf :rolf :rolf :rolf



I was not bashing the motor ****face, I just couldnt believe how small the displacement was for 10 cylinders :loser

[xxtremeteam]

i misunderstood you wasnt sure which way you where going my mistake, thiught you where bashing it

[88Nightmare]

nope, just surprised at its displacement

[Flicktitty]

Thanks guys, we might go look at a Expedetion and maybe even the Chevy dealerships.

Jonny 2K pm sent.

[84hurst]

I'd say to look at the new sequoia. Prolly get a deal because you're a repeat customer, and I think those things run in the 14's with the 5.7. JMHO :thumbsup

[Prince Valiant]

Just because it's there and no one recommended (no surprise), it might be worth it to check out the chrysler aspen.

Pros:
-Hemi Power (335hp/375ft-lbs of torque) with Multi-displacement feature
-Great AWD system
-Luxury at a cheaper price than the compettion...fully loaded with all the bell's and whistle runs only around 44,500...and could probably swing a better deal than that.
-better looking than a durango and features a nicely styled interior
-8950lb tow capacity
-Is a full size, as long as a tahoe, but not as wide
-Handles better (per motortrend) than tahoe, denali, suburban, navigator, expedition and better even than some smaller suv's

Might be worth a look...

[03CVLX]

The Chrysler Aspen is 20" shorter than a Suburban. Maybe Same length as a Tahoe.

[Breecher_7]

My Vote

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hummer-H1-ADV-PKG-2006-AM-GENERAL-H1-ALPHA-6-6-DURAMAX-OPEN-TOP_W0QQitemZ230238273041QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item2 30238273041

[88Nightmare]

$119,500 for an SUV with 13,000 miles? :rolf

[Breecher_7]

$119,500 for an SUV with 13,000 miles? :rolf

:rolf :thumbsup

[Windsors 03 Cobra]

That Aspen does look really nice, it sure is big, I guess it's good for ChryCo to enter that large SUV market.
The Expedition is really nice too, the GMT900 trucks own them all, especially engine wise. IMO

I think the OP's parents are after a jap ride tho, who knows maybe they are open minded.

[LIZMO]

id rather have one of these... :thumbsup http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/anywherebuthere/IMG_2322.jpg

[88Nightmare]

:rolf :thumbsup

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=241025260&dealer_id=74838&car_year=2006&model=HUMMER&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&start_year=2006&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&make=AMGEN&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=53154&advanced=&end_year=2009&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=839

$117,995 and only 7,400 miles :thumbsup

[Breecher_7]

id rather have one of these... :thumbsup http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/anywherebuthere/IMG_2322.jpg

No you wouldnt, there pounded to shit and they DONT have the duramax engine in them. Atleast none of the ones I ever drove did. Most of them are older, they have been making them since the 80's

Military Version FTL!!!! :stare

[88Nightmare]

No you wouldnt, there pounded to shit and they DONT have the duramax engine in them. Atleast none of the ones I ever drove did. Most of them are older, they have been making them since the 80's

Military Version FTL!!!! :stare

when did you drive them tony? I know in 02 or 03 they were still using the 6.5 turbo diesel engine, but I don't see why the government wouldn't want them with the duramax in em :confused

[LIZMO]

:( well i just thought they were cool! haha.

[Prince Valiant]

but I don't see why the government wouldn't want them with the duramax in em :confusedmakes it easier to service if all use the same engine, and they don't have to train the guys on new stuff/keep an inventory of seperate parts.

[Breecher_7]

Till 2005, none of the ones we had were D-max trucks. Just put in a call to my friend that is still attached to EODMU3 in Coronado and he said they still have the same old trucks.

[88Nightmare]

makes it easier to service if all use the same engine, and they don't have to train the guys on new stuff/keep an inventory of seperate parts.

makes sense

[Windsors 03 Cobra]

When the 6.5 went bye bye in pick up trucks I read an article somewhere saying that the 6.5 would be built for the government/military until 2011, in which case another contract could be ratified.

For a POS engine I can appreciate the simplicity of an older diesel engine and that it does not need electrical power and 7 thousand computers to operate.
I actually prefer those type of diesels, only in a Cummins flavor.

[Flicktitty]

I'd love it if they got a Hummer but they don't roll that big lol.

They don't want a Dodge/Jeep/Chysler Dad hates them.

We have bought the last 2 Toyota SUV's from Wilde and this last one they bought they kind of ****ed them over and didn't work on the price much on there trade in or on there new one. so my dad wants to try a new place.

[xxtremeteam]

No you wouldnt, there pounded to shit and they DONT have the duramax engine in them. Atleast none of the ones I ever drove did. Most of them are older, they have been making them since the 80's

Military Version FTL!!!! :stare

also pto brakes only my brother drove them in iraq last year he said stopping was scary

[Reverend Cooper]

the new sequoia is over 50 the landcruiser is 62-72000 and is the bes suv out there period sorry chevy and ford boys.

[88Nightmare]

the new sequoia is over 50 the landcruiser is 62-72000 and is the bes suv out there period sorry chevy and ford boys.

junk

[Flicktitty]

Any chance on getting a 08 Sequoia w/ Cloth int? seems all i've seen have leather? hey Coop me and my dad might come up next week to take a look.

[70 cutlass 442]

No you wouldnt, there pounded to shit and they DONT have the duramax engine in them. Atleast none of the ones I ever drove did. Most of them are older, they have been making them since the 80's

Military Version FTL!!!! :stare

yeah, but is the cost difference really justifiable to get the D-max? Not to mention they only made like 100 of them with the Dmax in them i thought?

[Breecher_7]

also pto brakes only my brother drove them in iraq last year he said stopping was scary

LOL, if you got a old crappy one. :rolf

[Breecher_7]

yeah, but is the cost difference really justifiable to get the D-max? Not to mention they only made like 100 of them with the Dmax in them i thought?

All the H1 Alpha's have the D-max for sure and there are way more then 100 of them out there. Im pretty sure the others have it as well.

[88Nightmare]

I think you can even get a D-max in an H2?


At any rate, if there was a hummer h1 with a 6.5 TD, I would imagine they would have the hydro-boost brakes off the steering pump.... at least my 95 silverado with the 6.5 did.

[Breecher_7]

I think you can even get a D-max in an H2?


At any rate, if there was a hummer h1 with a 6.5 TD, I would imagine they would have the hydro-boost brakes off the steering pump.... at least my 95 silverado with the 6.5 did.

If you could get the 6.6 Dmax in a H2, i would own one. They dont offer it.

[88Nightmare]

well, they are comin out with this new 4.5 duramax that will be available in suburbans, 1500's, 1500HD's.... wonder if it will be offered in a H2?

[Breecher_7]

well, they are comin out with this new 4.5 duramax that will be available in suburbans, 1500's, 1500HD's.... wonder if it will be offered in a H2?

This whole thing irritates me. It is also going to be available in the 3/4ton suburban. I dont know why they arnt just putting the 6.6 Dmax in the 3/4 ton version. This makes no sense as its heavier then a pickup. That 4.5 has some pretty impressive numbers though.

[88Nightmare]

This whole thing irritates me. It is also going to be available in the 3/4ton suburban. I dont know why they arnt just putting the 6.6 Dmax in the 3/4 ton version. This makes no sense as its heavier then a pickup. That 4.5 has some pretty impressive numbers though.

oh **** yes it does.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2935


This is exciting news folks—and arguably some of the most important engine news to come out of GM in years. GM will introduce an all-new 4.5L V8 diesel for the 2010 model year for their light-duty full-size trucks and for the Hummer H2.

Here are some key points:

• This is a 100% in-house GM design, and not engineered by Isuzu.

• The turbocharged engine is a DOHC unit with 4-valves per cylinder.

• It's expected to be rated in excess of 310 hp and 520 pound-feet of torque.

• It will meet the stringent 2010 emissions standards, and it will be compliant in all 50 states, making it one of the cleanest diesel vehicles ever produced.

• This engine should be able to fit in the engine bays of any GM product currently using small-block V8s—which could mean some very interesting further vehicle/model applications.


its pretty crazy how it works. the exhaust manifold is now moved to where the intake valley normally is on a standard 90º V8, and this is a bit more narrow at 72º bank. The intake manifolds are ontop of the cylinder heads. Because of this, and the location of the exhaust manifold, more heat is retained and allows it to spool the turbo faster for much quicker response.


According to edmunds, this engine will be available in GM's light duty trucks, including Suburbans, 1500's, 1500HD's, and in 2010, the Hummer H2 :thumbsup

[Breecher_7]

Its nice that you can finally get at the turbo easily. And of course its a "in house" design as Isuzu now belongs to toyota.

Beware, The HD Tundras are on the way and they will be powered by the company that built the duramax.

[DirtyMax]

from vw spec-310 hp and 553torque at 2000rpm i bet your 5.4 out performs that right
http://www.vw.com/touareg/completespecs/en/us/#/show_all

No but mine does... :devil

[88Nightmare]

No but mine does... :devil

:rolf :rolf :rolf

[Breecher_7]

No but mine does... :devil

Shut up, your truck sucks..... :thumbsup

[DirtyMax]

Shut up, your truck sucks..... :thumbsup

'Least it ain't red... :goof

Everyone knows black is the fastest color... :banana1:

[88Nightmare]

'Least it ain't red... :goof

Everyone knows black is the fastest color... :banana1:

tony drives a 4 door 4x4 tomato :alcoholic

[Breecher_7]

Just remember who drove your truck first.... :stare :rolf

[Breecher_7]

tony drives a 4 door 4x4 tomato :alcoholic

I wanted somthing that wouldnt show scratches, my last two trucks were Blue and it was horrible.

[T-Bag]

Sounds like a diesel circle jerk in here

[DirtyMax]

Sounds like a diesel circle jerk in here

Is it still considered a circle jerk when there's only 2 people?!? :goof That'd be more of a linear jerk me thinks..... :D

[88Nightmare]

I wanted somthing that wouldnt show scratches, my last two trucks were Blue and it was horrible.

so buy a white or silver truck. red will most certainly show scratches. Think about it, primer is a white/gray color. So if the scratch is deep enough to expose primer, what colors of paint would best blend with primer?



My last truck was a imperial blue metallic 2002 z71. Wasn't terrible with scratches....

[Breecher_7]

Is it still considered a circle jerk when there's only 2 people?!? :goof That'd be more of a linear jerk me thinks..... :D


:rolf

[Breecher_7]

so buy a white or silver truck. red will most certainly show scratches. Think about it, primer is a white/gray color. So if the scratch is deep enough to expose primer, what colors of paint would best blend with primer?



My last truck was a imperial blue metallic 2002 z71. Wasn't terrible with scratches....

Its got to be better then dark blue. And the 07 LMM trucks were becoming hard to find, especially with the options I wanted. This one was dealer traded from a stealer up north.

[Reverend Cooper]

junk

not only is it more comfortable thatn your pos,it looks better,will last longer,less maintanence,will hold its value longer and last but not least it would drag your pos around the like like the ***** mobile it is

[88Nightmare]

yeah I suppose. I think once my pile is paid off, depending on how finances are at the time, and the economy, I might put a plow on it and look into a diesel as a tow vehicle

[Breecher_7]

not only is it more comfortable thatn your pos,it looks better,will last longer,less maintanence,will hold its value longer and last but not least it would drag your pos around the like like the ***** mobile it is

Hmmm...... Im not sure how I feel about this post. It will definitly retain value better, but im unsure about the rest.

[Reverend Cooper]

dont be unsure,its the truth

[Breecher_7]

dont be unsure,its the truth

I disagree..... :rolf

[88Nightmare]

not only is it more comfortable thatn your pos,it looks better,will last longer,less maintanence,will hold its value longer and last but not least it would drag your pos around the like like the ***** mobile it is

comfortable? no. One of the deciding factors on buying it was comfort, and out of the other big 3, it was the most comfortable. And now that the new Tundra is on the market, I find it more comfortable then that too

looks better? thats personal opinion. in my opinion, all the new toyota trucks look like ass

will last longer? that has yet to be seen. hows the tundra doin with the weak beds that warp with improperly loaded weight?

lesss maintenance? everyone now a days advertise the 100k coolant, the 100k spark plugs, blah blah blah. No matter what the manufacturer recommends, I'd still do more frequent maintenance on it, whether its a chevy, ford, toyota, kia, whatever

value? meh. we will see how gas prices affect that. Honestly, SUV's are more family haulers. Pickups are more versatile, so if gas is going to affect re-sale value, I would imagine SUV's would lose their value first before any pick-up.

and dragging around? only one way to find out. I'll line up with your Faded Jeep any day








love ya coop :thumbsup

[Breecher_7]

comfortable? no. One of the deciding factors on buying it was comfort, and out of the other big 3, it was the most comfortable. And now that the new Tundra is on the market, I find it more comfortable then that too

looks better? thats personal opinion. in my opinion, all the new toyota trucks look like ass

will last longer? that has yet to be seen. hows the tundra doin with the weak beds that warp with improperly loaded weight?

lesss maintenance? everyone now a days advertise the 100k coolant, the 100k spark plugs, blah blah blah. No matter what the manufacturer recommends, I'd still do more frequent maintenance on it, whether its a chevy, ford, toyota, kia, whatever

value? meh. we will see how gas prices affect that. Honestly, SUV's are more family haulers. Pickups are more versatile, so if gas is going to affect re-sale value, I would imagine SUV's would lose their value first before any pick-up.

and dragging around? only one way to find out. I'll line up with your Faded Jeep any day








love ya coop :thumbsup

The resale is shit mike, a dealer wont give you shit for your truck.

[Reverend Cooper]

ohhh i thing the FJ would be a issue for you too. locking diffs and a-trac. i dont think you would like it if i pulled your bumper off. the landcruiser is twice the truck either of you two knuckle draggers have

[Reverend Cooper]

The resale is shit mike, a dealer wont give you shit for your truck.

ding ding ding we have a winnnah

[88Nightmare]

The resale is shit mike, a dealer wont give you shit for your truck.

im sure anything with 8 cylinders won't fair very well on the used market


ohhh i thing the FJ would be a issue for you too. locking diffs and a-trac. i dont think you would like it if i pulled your bumper off. the landcruiser is twice the truck either of you two knuckle draggers have
MY GM won't have that problem since our hitches are attatched to the frame :thumbsup

ding ding ding we have a winnnah

phag :D

[Reverend Cooper]

mine is the frame,yours bolted to the frame=mine wins

[88Nightmare]

mine is the frame,yours bolted to the frame=mine wins

ahh, that way if mine breaks, buy a new hitch and some new bolts, BAM! good as new. If yours breaks, your vehicle just sustained frame damage. FRAME DAMAGE FTW!!!!! :rolf :rolf :rolf

mine to fix: $150 bucks-ish, for a new hitch

yours? Over $500 im sure to straighten your hitch frame back out :rolf

[Breecher_7]

ohhh i thing the FJ would be a issue for you too. locking diffs and a-trac. i dont think you would like it if i pulled your bumper off. the landcruiser is twice the truck either of you two knuckle draggers have

Put your money where your mouth is and hook up the chain. Ill take some of this action. Your poor FJ wouldnt know what hit it. I dont mind trash talking, but that statement was foolish.

[88Nightmare]

Put your money where your mouth is and hook up the chain. Ill take some of this action. Your poor FJ wouldnt know what hit it.

that would be like a gorilla raping a hypo-allergenic cockapoo

[Breecher_7]

that would be like a gorilla raping a hypo-allergenic cockapoo

:rolf

[wrath]

ohhh i thing the FJ would be a issue for you too. locking diffs and a-trac. i dont think you would like it if i pulled your bumper off. the landcruiser is twice the truck either of you two knuckle draggers have

You drive a FJ Cruiser? I hope not. They rank up there with the PowerWagon. http://www.wrath.com/e/screwy.gif

[BOSS LX]

Am I reading this right?

D max vs any Toyota in a pull off = :rolf:rolf:rolf:rolf

[Breecher_7]

Am I reading this right?

D max vs any Toyota in a pull off = :rolf:rolf:rolf:rolf

Yup, waiting for big mouth to step up....... :thumbsup

[Reverend Cooper]

You drive a FJ Cruiser? I hope not. They rank up there with the PowerWagon. http://www.wrath.com/e/screwy.gif

yeah only mines eleven billionty times better

[Reverend Cooper]

ahh, that way if mine breaks, buy a new hitch and some new bolts, BAM! good as new. If yours breaks, your vehicle just sustained frame damage. FRAME DAMAGE FTW!!!!! :rolf :rolf :rolf

mine to fix: $150 bucks-ish, for a new hitch

yours? Over $500 im sure to straighten your hitch frame back out :rolf

wouldnt be straightening mine, i may get a broken back glass when your hitch pops off and hits my truck

[WilliamZ]

Going from Toyota to an American vehicle is going backwards quality-wise.

[BOSS LX]

Going from Toyota to an American vehicle is going backwards quality-wise.



I think I will keep driving my junk then.

I think it is ignorant to say Toyota trucks are better then Chevy or Ford. Trucks are made to work, not pull a 6'x4' brush trailer 2 times a year.

[Breecher_7]

Hmmm, still no mention of facing off the FJ with the 3/4ton.. And I guarantee my hitch isnt going to break....

Ready to walk the walk instead of just talking the Talk?

Everyone is entitled to there oppinion, but to put a statment out there like that, that was really dumb.

[Breecher_7]

yeah only mines eleven billionty times better

Not sure how you find this either.

Hmmm.... 5.7L Hemi, Auto disconnect Swaybar, Factory electronic Lockers, 4.56 gears and a winch. SOLID front axle.

Only thing killing this truck is its weight and length. Other then that Pickups dont get much more capable than this. If it was offered with a Diesel, it would be the end game for all pickups.

BUT dodge was smart enough to realize that diesel torque + locked axles = lots of broken parts.

Id take a powerwagon over the FJ anyday. And believe me, I REALLY like the FJ's.

[WilliamZ]

I think I will keep driving my junk then.

I think it is ignorant to say Toyota trucks are better then Chevy or Ford. Trucks are made to work, not pull a 6'x4' brush trailer 2 times a year.

Did I say better? I meant better quality.

I recall your wheel weights flying off on the freeway. The weights had ford stamped right on them :)

I have no problem hauling a car on a trailer with my SUV.

I don't even have to go in reverse to get my SUV out of 4WD, I can do it while I am cruising along.

I just can't do a pull-off in 4 lo without breaking it :)

Plus my SUV will last longer than your junk. :banana1:

You ignorant SOB!

[BOSS LX]

So a shop uses the wrong weights, and this is Ford's fault?

Quality? We will see how many Toyota's are still "at work" in 20-30 years. That is quality! Not how much road noise I hear, or how the 80% plastic bodies fit and finish is.

I was on a job this week with a paving company using 3 1987-1991 1-ton 4x4 Fords and a 1995ish Dodge 3500. I asked the guy about them, and he said "we use them everyday" and "One has 275,000 miles on the original 7.5.

That is American quality in my eyes!

[BOSS LX]

And btw

Shift on the fly = shift on the fly? At low speeds it is a good idea (not necessary) to disengage the T case by going in reverse.

[WilliamZ]

http://images.4wheeloffroad.com/whoops/131_0610_03_z+ford_bronco+front_view_mud.jpg
http://images.4wheeloffroad.com/whoops/131_0610_02_z+chevrolet_work_truck+passenger_side_ view_stuck.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/GGWOODY/truckmode2.jpg
I'd like to see an Escape do this
http://images.trucktrend.com/roadtests/suv/163_0510_4x4_Challenge_22z+Toyota_Land_Cruiser+Rea r_Drivers_Side_View_Rock_Crawling.jpg

[WilliamZ]

And btw

Shift on the fly = shift on the fly? At low speeds it is a good idea (not necessary) to disengage the T case by going in reverse.

It's a good idea if it's a Ford!

[Breecher_7]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/GGWOODY/truckmode2.jpg



Yup, thats about all there worth for towing. Junk...... :rolf

[BOSS LX]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/GGWOODY/truckmode2.jpg

That sure is a nice looking truck!:rolf

[88Nightmare]

coop cracks me up. bolted on hitches.... junk? yeaaaa, thats why they have been using them for YEARRRSSSSSSSS, and all the big 3 STILLLL use em, even on the 1-ton trucks.


lol. frame as a hitch. thats the most assenine thing I ever heard. figures only toyota does it. All the other auto makers know better.

[Breecher_7]

coop cracks me up. bolted on hitches.... junk? yeaaaa, thats why they have been using them for YEARRRSSSSSSSS, and all the big 3 STILLLL use em, even on the 1-ton trucks.


lol. frame as a hitch. thats the most assenine thing I ever heard. figures only toyota does it. All the other auto makers know better.

Yep, its a stupid Idea. My truck has the same hitch the 1-tons have. Its a Class V from the factory. I honestly doubt its gonna break..... :thumbsup

[88Nightmare]

I believe mine has a class IV, and I still don't picture that breaking...

[WilliamZ]

The new Chevy trucks look like ass...

[Breecher_7]

The new Chevy trucks look like ass...

I actually agree with you.... :thumbsup And Yes, I still own one...

Why you may ask? Because who currently has a better diesel engine/transmission combo? NO ONE.

[88Nightmare]

The new Chevy trucks look like ass...

again. personal opinion. but regardless of what they look like, it doesnt stop it from mollywhoppin a tundra turd

[WilliamZ]

I actually agree with you.... :thumbsup And Yes, I still own one...

Why you may ask? Because who currently has a better diesel engine/transmission combo? NO ONE.

I totally agree with you. I think the Duramax is the best truck powertrain.

[T-Bag]

**** all of you, my 4.2 will drag all your POS's around...


AT THE SAME TIME

[88Nightmare]

**** all of you, my 4.2 will drag all your POS's around...


AT THE SAME TIME

grab your chain

[Windsors 03 Cobra]

Where and when is all this chain hooking, tire smokin, bumper breaking going down ? :D

[Reverend Cooper]

didnt yours just get a new trans cuz the one in it sucked, oh yeah and wasnt it towed into the shop leaking fuel last week. Quality bwahahahahahahaha ford and chevy=CRAP

[wrath]

yeah only mines eleven billionty times better

Better than a FJ Cruiser? Unpossible. Nothing is better than a front-fender cracking, work-hardened cracked subframe, and 4400lb fatass FJ Cruiser. Oh, and the visibility of a H2.


Not sure how you find this either.

Hmmm.... 5.7L Hemi, Auto disconnect Swaybar, Factory electronic Lockers, 4.56 gears and a winch. SOLID front axle.

The PowerWagon is a fat pig. I'd rather have an overpriced difficult to see out of ugly H3. PowerWagon = V8 Durago fuel economy with Liberty offroad capability (no roller in front of the rear axle though), and Caravan handling.


Going from Toyota to an American vehicle is going backwards quality-wise.

That's relative. The Matrix and Vibe came off the same damn assembly line. GM tested every vehicle that came off the assembly line for quality control. Toyota spot checked. Somehow the Matrix got better quality marks. It's all about perception. Somehow Mitsu has convinced everyone that their stuff has the best quality on earth but yet you never see them make it past 100k.

Nissan somehow convinced everyone that they make good trucks. Even though the box mates with the cab and they use a light-duty rear end that always fails if used for towing.



I don't even have to go in reverse to get my SUV out of 4WD, I can do it while I am cruising along..

Welcome to 1988. It's called IFS with a front axle disconnect. I bet you can't do it while turning on dry asphalt.

http://www.wrath.com/es/toymotive.jpg

[Reverend Cooper]

again. personal opinion. but regardless of what they look like, it doesnt stop it from mollywhoppin a tundra turd

landcruiser would crush your turd mike all day

[Reverend Cooper]

yeah front fender cracking and subframe cracking,yeah there have been so many failures that i havent seen any around our region at all neither have any of the tech reps. poss. its due to huge ass tires being put on and changing the articulation with out further structural support added. the truck was not made for that. cage it problems solved if your doing that much off roading with that big of tires. but of course our older toyota trucks dont blow up when hit in the side either killing people so i guess you win,jeep chrysler trans,diff's theres a joke,ford and chevy inj pumps quality right bwahahahaha

[FourEyedFord]

Wait a second, you guys are saying Toyota makes trucks?!?!?!?!

I just thought those were cars with truck bodies on them. :confused

[88Nightmare]

landcruiser would crush your turd mike all day

yes, we all need a vehicle capable of crushing a chevy silverado. im sure it will be nothing but a glorified soccer mom mobile, just like all the other toyota SUV's. some rich yuppies who use it to go grocery shopping in the snow will have em parked outside the starbucks at brookfield square. 70k for a offroad capable toyota turd, sign me the **** up! :loser

[Reverend Cooper]

i would put a 2000 land ctuiser up against your truck and it would still crush you like a turd and its worth prolly the same as yours was new

[88Nightmare]

I seriously have never seen someone such a auto manufacturer nut swinger before :rolf


The Toyota Landcruiser is not:

A. http://www.monstertrucks-uk.com/bloomsburg99/211.jpg

B. http://www.monstertruckracing.com/gravedigger/gravedigger47.jpg

C. http://blog.vehiclevoice.com/300LiftedFordF650.jpg

It's simply:

http://www1.autotrader.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/0/86198F3538A64BA0CA256AE8001B693F/$file/2000.3.23_Toyota_LandCruiser_Prado.jpg?OpenElement
A bland 4 door 4x4 SUV. Doesn't sit any higher then a normal SUV, doesn't have Bigfoot or Gravedigger tires on it, therefore I don't picture it crushing my full sized pickup any more then this thing can:
http://www.theautochannel.com/media/photos/toyota/1998/98_toyota_rav4_2dr_soft_top.jpg

[Reverend Cooper]

ahh but it will and it can. hey i own a ford, its just not a daily driver cuz it would prolly break to unlike my yota's

[WilliamZ]

Better than a FJ Cruiser? Unpossible. Nothing is better than a front-fender cracking, work-hardened cracked subframe, and 4400lb fatass FJ Cruiser. Oh, and the visibility of a H2.

That's relative. The Matrix and Vibe came off the same damn assembly line. GM tested every vehicle that came off the assembly line for quality control. Toyota spot checked. Somehow the Matrix got better quality marks. It's all about perception. Somehow Mitsu has convinced everyone that their stuff has the best quality on earth but yet you never see them make it past 100k.

Welcome to 1988. It's called IFS with a front axle disconnect. I bet you can't do it while turning on dry asphalt.

Unpossible? Is that even a word?

Yes they did come off the same line. Toyota was involved so that's why the Vibe had a chance. They were both rated above average for reliability.

I said that because I was in Boss's truck and he backed up when taking it out of 4WD. It had nothing to do with you.

[Breecher_7]

didnt yours just get a new trans cuz the one in it sucked, oh yeah and wasnt it towed into the shop leaking fuel last week. Quality bwahahahahahahaha ford and chevy=CRAP

My fuel filter was leaking because the dealer pinched the o-ring on the water sensor when they changed it. That has nothing to do with "GM QUALITY" and my transmission has never had a problem. That was my old truck.

Your taunting is stupid, quit talking shit and walk the walk. Im free all weekend and have plenty of chain. Unless your gonna put up, shut the hell up.

OH and dont you own a ford car you F'n clown?

[T-Bag]

ahh but it will and it can. hey i own a ford, its just not a daily driver cuz it would prolly break to unlike my yota's

I like yota's just as much as the next guy...but srsly...loosen that rope and come down from teh balls.