how much...

[sloLs1]

does a k20 honda motor/trans/ecu usually sell for???


how about a B18 motor/trans/ecu???

[LIZMO]

go to www.ridesafely.com and search Acura RSX-S i've seen a few for like 3-5K and you could part the rest of the car out and use the seats/5lug/rims ect on the civic/integra etc..

but on most sites i think its about 5ish?

[ThatWhiteCivic]

K20a2 USDM RSX Type-S swap usually goes for 3500-4000

B18c1 USDM GSR swap goes for 2000-2800

[Deggy]

What are you thinking about swapping a K20 into?

[whitehatch]

What are you thinking about swapping a K20 into?

a saturn duhhhh

[That_Guy]

a saturn duhhhh

supercharged k20 ftw!!!!!

arial atom..http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WaWoo82zNUA

in the states they sell it with a stg 3 lsj.. like 300 hp

[sloLs1]

a saturn duhhhh

yea... either a k20 or b18... but now that ic the k20's going for closer to 5k i dont think so! maybe i can find a smashed up teg with a b18 in it for cheap....


i really want to do a k20 though, if i could find one for a decent price i will snatch it up.


these saturn motors are good for nothing except getting good gas milage... cant make any horsepower on them! i think an all motor b18 or even a stock k20 would make for one hell of a fun street/play car! i have been checking into this swap, and it seems like i could do it real easily... hopefully easier than my RWD v8 conversion:D i'll keep you guys posted!



BTW if you have a motor/trans/ecu let me know:devil

[boostaddict14]

you can piece it together for way cheaper than buying a whole swap. If your good at building engines which i take it you are with yoru fab skills why not just get a k24 block and do a k20a head on it and you could make 270 n/a whp. if you do it this way you could have a built k series swap for less than 4 k easy

[whitehatch]

you can piece it together for way cheaper than buying a whole swap. If your good at building engines which i take it you are with yoru fab skills why not just get a k24 block and do a k20a head on it and you could make 270 n/a whp. if you do it this way you could have a built k series swap for less than 4 k easy

if it was that easy everybody would do it. your not considering things like mounts, axles, header, wiring, hell the k-pro ecu alone is over a grand used. he would probably end up spending more on a k series than he did on his sbc swap.

[1siksrt]

Look for a 2.4 turbo srt engine... a guy in utah made 630 whp on stock internals and tons have seen 450whp + :thumbsup

I bet you could get all of it for $2000 ish maybe cheaper!!!! people are always wrecking them and parting out...

[1siksrt]

^^^engine, ecu, trans, stock stuff... but if you wanted to do a turbo kit thats like $1700 or so... you could easily make 500whp for like $4000-$5000 if you do all the work.... there was a shortblock for sale in WI for like 300 bucks on craigslist....

[sloLs1]

if it was that easy everybody would do it. your not considering things like mounts, axles, header, wiring, hell the k-pro ecu alone is over a grand used. he would probably end up spending more on a k series than he did on his sbc swap.

:rolf i dont want to do that!

[sloLs1]

Look for a 2.4 turbo srt engine... a guy in utah made 630 whp on stock internals and tons have seen 450whp + :thumbsup

I bet you could get all of it for $2000 ish maybe cheaper!!!! people are always wrecking them and parting out...

i hate srt4s.... and i dont want a turbo... i want to be all motor for once!

[Bee]

here is a better option:

*H22A JDM spec long block (200fhp&tons of torque for a 4banger)-$1000
*Hydro B16(super short gears) tranny-$800
*ECU(crome EFI)-$250
*Stage 3 clutch-$300
*Evolution H2B motor mounts for EG/EK Civic-$350
*Misc. bolt ons-$500

This setup put together and tuned correctly is an easy high 11sec setup in a street-lightened EG civic HB. I'd say a gauranteed low 12sec N/A setup all day long:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


200whp B-series in a super light street EG can easily run 12.7s
200whp H-series in a super light street EG can easily run 12.5-12.2 all day due to it's abundant torque curve especially if a short-geared B16 tranny is used. good tuning is key also!!!


BANG FOR THE BUCK N/A setup :)

[Deggy]

here is a better option:

*H22A JDM spec long block (200fhp&tons of torque for a 4banger)-$1000
*Hydro B16(super short gears) tranny-$800
*ECU(crome EFI)-$250
*Stage 3 clutch-$300
*Evolution H2B motor mounts for EG/EK Civic-$350
*Misc. bolt ons-$500

This setup put together and tuned correctly is an easy high 11sec setup in a street-lightened EG civic HB. I'd say a gauranteed low 12sec N/A setup all day long:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


200whp B-series in a super light street EG can easily run 12.7s
200whp H-series in a super light street EG can easily run 12.5-12.2 all day due to it's abundant torque curve especially if a short-geared B16 tranny is used. good tuning is key also!!!


BANG FOR THE BUCK N/A setup :)

Well there ya go!

[sloLs1]

here is a better option:

*H22A JDM spec long block (200fhp&tons of torque for a 4banger)-$1000
*Hydro B16(super short gears) tranny-$800
*ECU(crome EFI)-$250
*Stage 3 clutch-$300
*Evolution H2B motor mounts for EG/EK Civic-$350
*Misc. bolt ons-$500

This setup put together and tuned correctly is an easy high 11sec setup in a street-lightened EG civic HB. I'd say a gauranteed low 12sec N/A setup all day long:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


200whp B-series in a super light street EG can easily run 12.7s
200whp H-series in a super light street EG can easily run 12.5-12.2 all day due to it's abundant torque curve especially if a short-geared B16 tranny is used. good tuning is key also!!!


BANG FOR THE BUCK N/A setup :)


ok im not a honda guy... i dont really want a h22 because of the weight(i think, thats what i hear!) and after looking into swaps and such i'm thinking about a b16... now... what do i want?!?! would a single cam motor do alright N/A or would i be better off with a DOHC right off the bat?!!? sorry so so many questions but i dont know my b16 a b or c's or whatever you call them!:banana:alcoholic:alcoholic:alcoholic

[Deggy]

H22's are slightly heavier than D,B, and K series motors. But if you put enough power to the ground, especially in some light weight tupperware Saturn, it shouldn't make a difference.

[Cyberdx16]

ok im not a honda guy... i dont really want a h22 because of the weight(i think, thats what i hear!) and after looking into swaps and such i'm thinking about a b16... now... what do i want?!?! would a single cam motor do alright N/A or would i be better off with a DOHC right off the bat?!!? sorry so so many questions but i dont know my b16 a b or c's or whatever you call them!:banana:alcoholic:alcoholic:alcoholic

lol h22 weights a lot... this should settle the weight issue

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550

you will be extremely disappointed in a b16, either settle with a b18c (not b18b no Vtak yo!) or h22

[Bee]

sorry guys the h2b kit is alot more.. can't remember, but it's up there in the 1G area I believe... gotta check!!!

Heavier upwards in the front of a FWD car for straight-aways is actually an advantage. H22's are big torque monsters if you don't like those tiny torqueless Bseries and those expensive over-rated Kseries motors. Essentially a H22 with a B16 tranny is somewhat of a K20/K24 setup although not as hightech(i-vtec), but yet budget minded in a sense and can be just as potent!!!

good luck on your choice and stay away from SOHC 1.5/1.6Lers!!! :banana1:

[1siksrt]

Ya, I hate srt's too.... wanna run this year????

[sloLs1]

Ya, I hate srt's too.... wanna run this year????

i'll run you in any one of my cars!:banana

[BeesTwinEG]

H22 doesnt really weight as much. Everyone thinks... its 2.2 dohc and from a prelude "Its freaking heavy". Like Bee said, H2B with b16 tranny boosted, n/a or Nitrous will be awesome project for the budget. Not to mention GSR swap isnt bad neither.
good luck

[USDM EG]

I would do H2b if i was still into modding Civic/integras. I would NEVER, go below an ITR swap. But H2b seems to be the next "step up". K series in my eyes is a waste of money.

if i have understood it correctly. with the H2b swap you do not have to cut your car apart...am i correct?

[BeesTwinEG]

with the H2b swap you do not have to cut your car apart...am i correct?



Yea, evolution H2B kit you dont have to modify any except just grindin back of the block. That is about it.
If I have the money, I would go H2B anyday instead of K, B or watever.:thumbsup

[Deggy]

What about a B20/Vtec swap?

[USDM EG]

alot of other opinions about it... but....

I would NEVER do a LS or B20 VTEC. Honda Designed the GSR, B16, and Integra Type-R motors for a reason. A stock Integra Type-R engine in my eyes is the est bang for buck for a b Series. The "buck" is a bit on the expensive side. But look at what you get.... balanced crank, harder and lighter rods, hotter cams, high compression (10.6:1 USDM, 11.1:1 JDM) port and polished head stock (early JDM are hand ported and polished, 97 on later are doen by machine), a great intake manifold, decent manifold with 2.5inch collector (JDM is all SS and gives nice low end torque) and dont forget that it can handle those High RPMS ;). Their are other things about the ITR motor that make it better than all the others..but that is just a few. I revved mine to 9,963 once and I never had an issue.

ITR motors ftw. (b series)

My opinion is geared towards an ITR motor because it is reliable, it directly bolts into an year civic/integra with no welding/cutting. I demand a car that does not have to torn apart every weekend because of an oiling issue, clunking..and etc.