Rules on running at Great lakes? [Archive]

BlackViper

03-21-2008, 07:49 PM

You will probably need a cage. NHRA rules apply. You might get one run it, so make it count.

I've never run down the track before but I know some of the other guys runnings the paxton's are in the mid to high 10's. I know you need a cage if your running sub-10's but hopefully I will be able to run without!

Smokey1226

03-21-2008, 07:56 PM

Any good at blow jobs? I know a few guys who could "turn away" for a favor :D jk

Just make sure im there to see your car run! It should be sick.

WickedSix

03-21-2008, 08:00 PM

I've never run down the track before but I know some of the other guys runnings the paxton's are in the mid to high 10's. I know you need a cage if your running sub-10's but hopefully I will be able to run without!

your info is incorrect your going to need a cage if your quicker than 11.49

2007 NHRA Rule book 4:10 ROLL BARS Mandatory in all cars running 11.49 or quicker, or per Class Requirements

sticky thursdays is special track prep for max hook you did have to have slicks or drag radials last year dunno if that changed... but it is a good time everytime i've been down there the faster car use that for hardcore test and tune :thumbsup

BlackViper

03-21-2008, 08:02 PM

Any good at blow jobs? I know a few guys who could "turn away" for a favor :D jk

Just make sure im there to see your car run! It should be sick.

Probably just a bunch of tire spinning with street tires but we'll see:headbang

Let me know who you are and I'll come find you!!

Smokey1226

03-21-2008, 08:26 PM

Im so down for that!

PureSound15

03-21-2008, 08:34 PM

Im so down for that!

You wanna blow job from a dude? I mean... soft and warm is soft and warm but... what about the whole 5 O'clock shadow and stuff.

To each his own. :rolf:) Sorry, that was way too easy

Smokey1226

03-21-2008, 08:42 PM

dont knock it untill you try it.....

:D

Flicktitty

03-21-2008, 08:48 PM

I thought if you had a convert you needed some sort of cage no matter what the time? or atleast the harness bars over the heads? i'm not real sure.

BlackViper

03-21-2008, 10:03 PM

I thought if you had a convert you needed some sort of cage no matter what the time? or atleast the harness bars over the heads? i'm not real sure.

It has the head bars but it's not considered a cage....at least not at road america.

Flicktitty

03-21-2008, 10:17 PM

It has the head bars but it's not considered a cage....at least not at road america.

http://www.nhra.com/contacts/tech_faq.html

A roll bar is required in any convertible running 13.49 seconds or quicker in the quarter mile

slickwilly

03-21-2008, 10:18 PM

http://www.nhra.com/contacts/tech_faq.html

A roll bar is required in any convertible running 13.49 seconds or quicker in the quarter mile
A lot of tracks ignore that.

Flicktitty

03-21-2008, 10:20 PM

A lot of tracks ignore that.

yeah, i just thought i'd throw that up there for him though.

WickedSix

03-21-2008, 10:24 PM

the reality they'll probably let you have one pass then nicely ask you to stop

Rocket Power

03-21-2008, 10:29 PM

dont knock it untill you try it.....

:DGayest thing I've heard all week :rolf:rolf:rolf

Smokey1226

03-21-2008, 10:31 PM

Gayest thing I've heard all week :rolf:rolf:rolf

HAAHAHAHHAHAHA

I knew someone would like that.

Flicktitty

03-21-2008, 10:32 PM

HAAHAHAHHAHAHA

I knew someone would like that.

yeah i was just gonna let it slide....................... i didn't wanna go there.

Russ Jerome

03-21-2008, 10:54 PM

the reality they'll probably let you have one pass then nicely ask you to stop

Yup, may even a get a few in before anybody cares.

You could technicaly and legaly make a lot of pass':
Make several test launch's, letting off before the 1/8 mile.
After figuring out what works best for your 60' and 330'
times then give her all she has. With several 1/8 mile
pass' on paper you will know you best potential 1/4,
after the 1/8 mile its an ez calculation to do online.

Your tire spinning 1/8 mile times will be your highest speeds.
Your best no-spin 60' times will show your best ET's.

Yellow2k1vette

03-21-2008, 11:45 PM

In addition to the 11.5 ET rule...you will get also kicked if you trap higher than 135mph w/o a cage, which your car should be capable of, no matter how much you spin off the line, or the resulting poor ET.

As said above, for practice, run it for the 1/8, and coast it. Repeat until you get your launch figured out, then at the end of the day give the full run a go.

And when you do, have a bud shooting vid of the board, cause they probably won't give you a timeslip for the illegal pass.

:haveabeer

BlackViper

03-22-2008, 07:08 AM

Yup, may even a get a few in before anybody cares.

You could technicaly and legaly make a lot of pass':
Make several test launch's, letting off before the 1/8 mile.
After figuring out what works best for your 60' and 330'
times then give her all she has. With several 1/8 mile
pass' on paper you will know you best potential 1/4,
after the 1/8 mile its an ez calculation to do online.

Your tire spinning 1/8 mile times will be your highest speeds.
Your best no-spin 60' times will show your best ET's.

Thanks exactly what I was thinking:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup
I justed wanted to make sure I could pass the tech inspect so I don't drive all the way down there for not:fire

juicedimpss

03-22-2008, 10:12 AM

Probably just a bunch of tire spinning with street tires but we'll see:headbang

Let me know who you are and I'll come find you!!

dont waste your time heading down on stickey thursday if you dont have slicks.they will not let you run on street tires or nittos.

scaleracer

03-22-2008, 10:57 AM

they will give you a slip with a note on it and tell you you went too fast. also i've seen stock vipers there and spin past the 60ft i wouldn't bother going without slicks!

ND4SPD

03-22-2008, 01:19 PM

There was a video I saw a while back of a Mustang that was running lower than 11.5, they told him if he broke 11.5 again they'd kick him out. So, at the start he rolls just enough to trip the ET timer... counts to 3 then hammers it. Apparently they left him alone. :D

Windsors 03 Cobra

03-22-2008, 01:34 PM

I think GLD looks the other way over some safety stuff at RSD, thats when you should go. :thumbsup

HRSEPLA

03-22-2008, 01:45 PM

All you'll probably need is a helmet:)

70 cutlass 442

03-22-2008, 02:09 PM

you could always run to the local hardware store and pick up some PVC and spray paint :rolf

SmokinRAM114

03-22-2008, 04:24 PM

you could always run to the local hardware store and pick up some PVC and spray paint :rolf

i dont even wna say it.....

Moparjim

03-22-2008, 07:06 PM

They let me run my old one 10.50s 135-140 MPH but it was before they were NHRA now and it wasnt a convertible. Not sure how they are nowadays but the used to be pretty flexible on the new cars like Vipers and Z06s since they run like 11s and go 200 MPH stock, and have very good suspensions tires brakes etc. IMO its a world of difference compared to 30 plus year old musclecars with 60s suspension brakes and aero where you need a cage.

HRSEPLA

03-22-2008, 07:16 PM

you could always run to the local hardware store and pick up some PVC and spray paint :rolf

I got that T-Shirt back in the early 90's:rolf
'Cept I used PVC and Pipe Insulation in my convertable:)

70 cutlass 442

03-22-2008, 08:23 PM

I got that T-Shirt back in the early 90's:rolf
'Cept I used PVC and Pipe Insulation in my convertable:)

im still amazed you got away with that, but then agian when they were IHRA you probably could have used 2x2's and nails and gotten away with it :banana1:

79SS

03-23-2008, 01:31 AM

I think GLD looks the other way over some safety stuff at RSD, thats when you should go. :thumbsup

Not true,at least not since we went NHRA.My advice would also be to run 1/8 mile passes.Usually you'll get 3 warnings.If you run in the 10's you'll definatly need a cage.Oh yeah bring a helmet,if you run 13.99 (you will) and quicker you'll need it as well.

Yooformula

03-23-2008, 02:54 AM

I wouldnt risk it. make sure you have the helmut and just run 1/8 mile passes as prev stated until you are ready for 1 good pass then call it a day.

scottie K

03-23-2008, 07:48 AM

here some help full info

by NHRA rules ....

1. helmet ( no matter how fast)
2 11.99 and quicker you need a 6 point roll bar/ fire jacket
3. 9.99 and quicker you will need a certified cage fire jacket , gloves, pants..

but remember you mite get away with it one or 2 times .... you also will have to have other saftey stuff like drive shaft loop Ie and so forth.....

RSD are little more laxed ..... if you need more info you can give me a call
414-526-1296....scotty k me and a few others have been through the process of going fast ....from our 13-14 sec cars to our 8 sec cars

BlackViper

03-23-2008, 08:03 AM

So when they pop the hood in the tech inspec. and see the supercharger they are not going to immediately kick me off? Can I tell him I am just looking to do 1/8 miles passes?

I have a helmet and fire jacket so I will bring them

scottie K

03-23-2008, 08:25 AM

no they wont kick you out at tech...

jest let the guy know that you have no idea how fast it is... and your here just to see what it does....

BlackViper

03-23-2008, 12:52 PM

no they wont kick you out at tech...

jest let the guy know that you have no idea how fast it is... and your here just to see what it does....

sounds good to me....

what is a good day/time to go to avoid long lines?

So I can't get slicks on it unless I do some brake relocation which I don't want to do yet. I ditched the stock runflats and running Michelin PS2's. When would track temp/cond be good for my set-up?

thanks for the help

70 cutlass 442

03-23-2008, 03:19 PM

sounds good to me....

what is a good day/time to go to avoid long lines?

So I can't get slicks on it unless I do some brake relocation which I don't want to do yet. I ditched the stock runflats and running Michelin PS2's. When would track temp/cond be good for my set-up?

thanks for the help

dont go for that free race bu11sh1t when they first open up, the track is preped like shit and you get one oass in 2 if your lucky. id wait until normal racing and friday nights are usualy ok, but there agian track prep isnt always the best. I like tues or wednesday night most thou

Moparjim

03-23-2008, 04:06 PM

Get some drag radials. You will be diassappointed trying to run it on regular radials. Your car is probably right around the power level of my old one. Drag radials at a low enough pressure and heated up enough will actually hook pretty decent and be able to get you 1.6 or so 60 foots and into the tens. On regular tires I fear you won't stand a chance and will be dissappointed with the crap times you will get spinning the tires like crazy.

Slow Joe

03-24-2008, 07:31 AM

Syclone0044

03-24-2008, 01:59 PM

http://www.nhra.com/2004/news/june/062202.html

There was a new NHRA ruling that pure factory stock convertible vehicles now don't need a roll cage until 11.49 like the rest of us....

Read that link for the specifics. It says if the convertible is not 100% factory stock, then it needs a cage at 13.49. Not sure how GLD applies this. These rules also seem to pertain more towards organized NHRA racing than any guidelines for time-runs.

juicedimpss

03-24-2008, 02:03 PM

There was a new NHRA ruling that factory stock convertible vehicles now don't need a roll cage until 11.49 like the rest of us.... Search Google/NHRA for more specifics... This is not just hear-say, I actually read the official announcement but it was a year or two ago so my memory is a little foggy.

thats only if it is indeed STOCK. with any mods(ie exhaust or non factory power adder) it will need a cage....technically.