gas prices

[jbiscuit]

what are you guys seeing where you are? Just curious since there seems to be a lot of fluctuation across town. I saw $3.30/gallon this morning for regular unleaded. YIKES! :stare

[Karps TA]

$3.29 pretty much every station I drove by this morning.

Just wait this will seem cheap in a couple weeks. Only reason why it's this low is the high inventory of winter blend fuel.

[Josepy]

there calling for $4 a gallon by summer. if so think i will be selling my trans am.

[jbiscuit]

$3.29 pretty much every station I drove by this morning.

Just wait this will seem cheap in a couple weeks. Only reason why it's this low is the high inventory of winter blend fuel.

yea I was thinking the same thing too...they want to use it up. I keep hearing different numbers though for the high it will hit this summer....I've heard from $3.60-4.75/gallon for 87 octance! WOWZERS!

[twicks69]

I saw 4.09 yesterday for mid-grade (89 octane) in Waukesha. :stare

Diesel is already over $4 nearly everywhere around here.

I think I will just stick with race gas. It has been around the same price since Hurricane Katrina -- f'n biatch.

[slickwilly]

3.29 for regular, 3.39 for plus and 3.41 for premium. I usually run midgrade but I got premium (93) just because at this point it's more cost effective.

[jbiscuit]

I saw 4.09 yesterday for mid-grade (89 octane) in Waukesha. :stare

Diesel is already over $4 nearly everywhere around here.

I think I will just stick with race gas. It has been around the same price since Hurricane Katrina -- f'n biatch.

4.09? really!? ICK!

[USMARINE1108]

$3.18 here in couth Carolina, $3.16 on base.

[juicedimpss]

I saw 4.09 yesterday for mid-grade (89 octane) in Waukesha. :stare
.

HOLY SH!T:wow

[Z28Roxy]

$3.25-$3.29 for regular in Kenosha.

[CPonyGo]

haven't checked lately but there is a mobile at howard and 76th that sells for less if cash...the other day it was 319 when other were at the 329+ mark

[CPonyGo]

oh and I like driving my car so I readjusted my expenses a bit...more carry lunches that fast food and eating out frees up quite a bit..all I need is maybe a tank or so a week anyway...

[GRNDNL]

Lets figure this out, lets say you drive 250 miles per week and get 15mpg......

250 / 15 mpg = 16.67 gal per week

16.67 x $2.50 gal = $41.68
16.67 x $3.00 gal = $50.01
16.67 x $3.50 gal = $58.35
16.67 x $4.00 gal = $66.68

So roughly $20 a week or $80 a month, close to $1000 a year, a few cents here and there add up in a hurry..

[juicedimpss]

Lets figure this out, lets say you drive 250 miles per week and get 15mpg......

250 / 15 mpg = 16.67 gal per week

16.67 x $2.50 gal = $41.68
16.67 x $3.00 gal = $50.01
16.67 x $3.50 gal = $58.35
16.67 x $4.00 gal = $66.68

So roughly $20 a week or $80 a month, close to $1000 a year, a few cents here and there add up in a hurry..

im just looking at $4.00x 40 gal(if i am close to empty.. 44 gal tank)=$160
ouch.

[badass88gt]

$3.29 for 87 up here.

[flyin_blue_egg]

im just as pissed off about the price of gas as the next guy....but look at the price of everything, it's going up...why...a little thing called inflation. Granted the price of gas has gone up a lot faster then other things have....i guess what im trying to say is that $4 gas was inevitable....

[jbiscuit]

yea its starting to get ugly. I didn't care when it was $2.50 or so but now that we are looking at $4.00/gallon soon....I'll actually have to start budgeting for gas. Cutting down on unnecessary trips/driving

[juicedimpss]

im just as pissed off about the price of gas as the next guy....but look at the price of everything, it's going up...why...a little thing called inflation. Granted the price of gas has gone up a lot faster then other things have....i guess what im trying to say is that $4 gas was inevitable....

i can tell you my wages havent gone up at the same rate as fuel.

[jbiscuit]

i can tell you my wages havent gone up at the same rate as fuel.

I'd have to agree with that! Its actually starting to cost me significant money to get to work now even! Like $120/month JUST to get to work! :chair:

[juicedimpss]

gasbuddy.com shows last march 31 fuel was 2.68/gal,compared to today 3.29.....
thats over 22% increase. I would love that cost of living raise.

[Flicktitty]

gas prices blow ****, But why complain it's not like there gonna do anything about it.

I'll just have to cut back spending money on other shit (ie- goin out to eat, goin to movies etc...)

Oh and it's like 3.27-3.29 :( and truck only gets 10ish MPG if i'm lucky so if gas keeps goin up someone will have a chance to get my truck.

[Flicktitty]

I'd have to agree with that! Its actually starting to cost me significant money to get to work now even! Like $120/month JUST to get to work! :chair:

Man thats not THAT much, Seein how some people (me included) pay $70-100 to fill there trucks up and that will last around 2 weeks if there lucky.

I really feel bad for the delievery drivers, they HAVE to drive in this shit and yet they make NO more money then they did when it was 2.70/ Gallon. With that being said if you guys get a pizza/food/etc delieverd make sure to give a litttle extra to the drivers.

[CPonyGo]

exactly what Flick said...

a lot of times I am working every week in Janesville and pissin away almost 90 bucks a week...and they are a diifferent local there and I work for 3 bucks less...but I need to work so I travel where ever ...cuttin back in other areas helps offset the Mustang so thats what I do...no biggie.....YET!

[CPonyGo]

My buddy had a quad axle dump -self employed...just said f it and sold the truck and got a job dispatching for the firm that he sub'd from....

[Flicktitty]

exactly what Flick said...

a lot of times I am working every week in Janesville and pissin away almost 90 bucks a week...and they are a diifferent local there and I work for 3 bucks less...but I need to work so I travel where ever ...cuttin back in other areas helps offset the Mustang so thats what I do...no biggie.....YET!

Where do you live that you make the trip all the way to janesville?

[jbiscuit]

Man thats not THAT much, Seein how some people (me included) pay $70-100 to fill there trucks up and that will last around 2 weeks if there lucky.

yea but thats JUST to get to work. I hard ever take the wagon anywhere anymore unless necessary. The fiancé's Cavalier is a lot better on gas

[CPonyGo]

I leave in Stallis but I am a union carpenter/flooring and when work is slow- I take it where ever- even if its for a couple of bucks less..I want to retire in 5 years so I am more into gaining working hours for the pension....but I take a 200 a week hit with wages and gas when I work there...I worked there for 5 months last year

[CPonyGo]

Had a new dodge ram that I sold since the girl has a nice toyota and I have a nissan for work now...lots better in the gas money pocket

[Breecher_7]

$4.05 for diesel in Jackson... This is F'n rediculous. There is NO reason diesel should be that expensive and there is NO reason it should be more expensive then gasoline.

[UnderPSI]

It isn't the price per barrel that has gone up, it's the value of the US dollar that keeps going down. The price per barrel really hasn't moved all that much.

I was talking to the driver that delivered the diesel to PDQ and that's pretty much what he said. I also learned PDQ on 59 in Waukesha has premium diesel and they sell it at close to the same price as everyone else. I don't know why the wouldn't advertise that.

[wikked]

Didn't even know there was such a thing as premium diesel, neat.

Walker's Point Mobil downtown (on Water/1st street) usually always has the cheapest gas of all the 'name brand' stations.

[UnderPSI]

The driver said the diesel had the best additives and lubricants you could get. He said most people see 1-2 mpg better with that fuel. He wasn't bias towards PDQ either, He delivers fuel to every one.

[lasttimearound]

Didn't even know there was such a thing as premium diesel, neat.

Walker's Point Mobil downtown (on Water/1st street) usually always has the cheapest gas of all the 'name brand' stations.

its funny, the one just north of there is always like 20 cents higher. i usually just fill up on penn. and college on my way home from the girls apartment.

[SmokinRAM114]

The driver said the diesel had the best additives and lubricants you could get. He said most people see 1-2 mpg better with that fuel. He wasn't bias towards PDQ either, He delivers fuel to every one.

i see 1-2mpg worse with pdq on bypass then if i fill up else where. i always fill there cuz of convience tho lol I think diesel prices are bull shit. i pay $110+ a tank to fill my truck at 17mpg. which is 1-2 times a week. everyone has such a negative stand point on it now like, oh well theres nothing we can do. but there is just wait till the truckers start bitchen n the deliveries arent being mad because they start a huge ass convoy like back in the 80s. the equivilant diesel price to gas prices from the refinery show we should only be paying around $2.20 a gallon for diesel. FAWKING BS. :flipoff2:

[Flicktitty]

yea but thats JUST to get to work. I hard ever take the wagon anywhere anymore unless necessary. The fiancé's Cavalier is a lot better on gas
the sube can't be too bad is it? Whats it get MPG?



I leave in Stallis but I am a union carpenter/flooring and when work is slow- I take it where ever- even if its for a couple of bucks less..I want to retire in 5 years so I am more into gaining working hours for the pension....but I take a 200 a week hit with wages and gas when I work there...I worked there for 5 months last year
Thats a hell of a hall man.

[Silver03SRT]

http://www.milwaukeegasprices.com/
3.17 for regular in the ghetto i like the CASH ONLY LOL

[Breecher_7]

http://www.milwaukeegasprices.com/
3.17 for regular in the ghetto i like the CASH ONLY LOL

I drive by this gas station every day. Diesel is still 3.79 in the ghetto as well.

[DirtyMax]

The $4 diesel prices are going to affect everyone. The trucks that get the shit from point A to point B don't run on love.

Then I have to LOL when customers ask why we had to raise prices. I feel like saying "We're a supply delivery company.... if you wanna come get it all, we can probably work something out." Unfortunately, I have to clean that up a bit before it comes out of my mouth... :goof

[jbiscuit]

the sube can't be too bad is it? Whats it get MPG?


fulltime AWD, winter-blend piss gas, Cobb tune = 20-ish.....23-24mpg in the summer

[flyin_blue_egg]

i can tell you my wages havent gone up at the same rate as fuel.


neither have mine....im just saying that atleast .50-$1 of the price increase over the last 2-3 years has to be b/c inflation

[Karps TA]

If the prices keep going up, I'm going to switch careers and start sleeping with governors just to pay my bills.

[Silver350]

Its 3.09 a gallon in oklahoma

[lilws6]

lst i was out the station up the road from me was 3.29 and the bpo by work was 3.25 in delefield this was last night tho

[GRNDNL]

fulltime AWD, winter-blend piss gas, Cobb tune = 20-ish.....23-24mpg in the summer


Bahahahah.....Mandys Firehawk gets 21-22 in the summer driving back and forth to work with a best of 29.5 driving to Kentucy...

[Poncho]

I hadn't even realized the rise since last night. the caddy and lumina only have 15 gallon tanks, but would never be THAT LOW.

Last night I put in the first full tank of gas in the GTO since fall and I nearly died. $57 for 16 gallons on a 18 gallon tank. Obviously would have cleared $60 if the tank was a little lower.

[Slow Joe]

Makes sence... Kristie and I spend about $600/mo on gas for one car...

She drives for work, the Saab gets about 28mpg (on regular), she puts on about 5,000mi/mo... @ 3.30/gal... that's 589. I can't wait til the gas prices go up more :(

[Flicktitty]

Makes sence... Kristie and I spend about $600/mo on gas for one car...

She drives for work, the Saab gets about 28mpg (on regular), she puts on about 5,000mi/mo... @ 3.30/gal... that's 589. I can't wait til the gas prices go up more :(

Hows the saab run on Regular? i always thought your sposed to run 93 on them boosted cars? or does that car pull timing since it's running a lower octane?

[Prince Valiant]

It isn't the price per barrel that has gone up, it's the value of the US dollar that keeps going down. The price per barrel really hasn't moved all that much. That's not entirely accurate...the price per barrel IS a an all-time high even adjusted against inflation/falling dollar. It's not like things would be just hunky-dory if it weren't for the falling dollar...



Honestly though, while I do notice the increasing cost of what gas brings us (IE, everything), the insight really is quite the shield against these prices. In the nearly a year I've had this thing, I've probably saved ~5,000 dollars. The difference in a cost in fillup's b/w super high prices (3.45) versus what has seemed normal (2.95) is only ~4 dollars (32 vs 28 or so) and I fill up once a week (~5-600 miles/tank). I'll give up a lunch a week at taco bell, and come out ahead.

[Slow Joe]

Hows the saab run on Regular? i always thought your sposed to run 93 on them boosted cars? or does that car pull timing since it's running a lower octane?

Manual & Gas Cap says 87 Octane or greater... :thumbsup

Plus all the Saab guys I talked to said as long as it's not running a high hp kit that you'll be fine with 87...

[Flicktitty]

Manual & Gas Cap says 87 Octane or greater... :thumbsup

Plus all the Saab guys I talked to said as long as it's not running a high hp kit that you'll be fine with 87...

well i'll be god dammed, those crazy sweds. :goof

[lordairgtar]

I'll give up a lunch a week at taco bell, and come out ahead.
Even if you walked, giving up Taco Bell would leave you ahead.:rolf

[Z28Roxy]

Man thats not THAT much, Seein how some people (me included) pay $70-100 to fill there trucks up and that will last around 2 weeks if there lucky.

I really feel bad for the delievery drivers, they HAVE to drive in this shit and yet they make NO more money then they did when it was 2.70/ Gallon. With that being said if you guys get a pizza/food/etc delieverd make sure to give a litttle extra to the drivers.

Indeed it does. I've been doing this for 5-6 weeks as a 2nd job

I hate doing a long single delivery and getting stiffed. ****ers, I just paid for part of your food, since it cost me more than the $1 per delivery they gave me to drive there. Tip or go pick it up - it works out to a $1.50 saved anyway. :thumbsup

[Z28Roxy]

Oh and this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better :(

[jbiscuit]

Oh and this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better :(

its not GOING to get better...why would it?

[Z28Roxy]

its not GOING to get better...why would it?

Meant the economy as a whole.

[05caddyext]

Anyone watch the world news last night? We have it made. They pay $9.50 a gallon in Great Britain.

[Karps TA]

Yeah and Venezula pay's around $.15 a gallon.

[Breecher_7]

Yeah and Venezula pay's around $.15 a gallon.

Time to move i guess!

[Z28Roxy]

Anyone watch the world news last night? We have it made. They pay $9.50 a gallon in Great Britain.

Two completely different cultures/continents.

[Prince Valiant]

Two completely different cultures/continents.http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/104/captainobviouslb4.jpg


And yet neither facts explain the difference in gas prices

[Z28Roxy]

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/104/captainobviouslb4.jpg


And yet neither facts explain the difference in gas prices

Apparently not captain obvious if I've seen similar posts like this on two different boards on the same day. :thumbsup

Oh wait. Actually they do. Different commutes, different vehicles, different public transportation, higher taxes on gas in europe, etc.

[Breecher_7]

I think old Doyle needs to do away with our State gas tax and give wisconsin residents a break. I mean its not like that tax money seems to be doing much anyways.

[BoosTT]

Be glad you guys don't have to pay $400 per month for parking like in NY or even Madison. Milwaukee is atleast $80 a month for parking. Think about it that way.

[Prince Valiant]

Oh wait. Actually they do. Different commutes, different vehicles, different public transportation, higher taxes on gas in europe, etc.:rolleyes: So because it's a different "continent", it has a different gas tax?:confused

Maybe it's the "culture" of venezuelan's that dictate their "public transportation" choices.:confused

Or is it "culture" dictates the gas tax and "Continent" dictates the public transportation. :confused Oh I forget...MAN this stuff is confusing!

Now, is it "culture", "continent", or "hemisphere" the reason for venezuelan subsidies? Break out the math formulas!

[CPonyGo]

doyle take away the tax...bawhahahahha... he's a tax happy p.o.s

[88Nightmare]

wisconsin also seems to have some law against discounting gas prices. At Flying J in Wisconsin, rewards card members used to be able to get discounts on gas depending on how much they purchased in gas, food....etc at the store. Go to Flying J's now and all over the pumps it says its now illegal for them to give discounts, but you are still eligible for those discounts in any other state. Same with speedy rewards. In other states, you can use your rewards points for fuel discounts... like up to 50 cents per gallon if you have a lot of points. But you can't do that in Wisconsin. Horse shit!

With my 90 mile a day round trip to work, I'd be feeling the hurt with high fuel prices but I only work 3 days a week. I could not afford to work there if it was 4 or 5 days a week.

But seriously, gas is just too damn high. It don't matter if you are livin in the projects on welfare or you are bill gates, its just too damn high. Like ron said, would be nice if we all saw wage increases to match the rising cost of living, but I don't think anyone on here can say "Hey my boss gave me a raise because the price of gas is over $3.00 a gallon!" Anyone ever watch the comedy of Katt Williams? "You should not be at the gas pump making life decisions.... Shiiit I only got 20 bucks. Wait, did I eat today? Shit I need cigarettes....."

With the price of gas and diesel rising, you'd be lucky to get a raise at all. Every company in America suffers to some extent when gas goes up, so if fuel costs rise, so do their costs of operating their business, which means less excess funds to pay employees. I'm wondering how long the US economy can sustain with such fuel prices... The vehicle market will be hurting even more then it already is. Oh and Bush is issuing us all a tax relief check. Guess where mine is going..... Nope I'm not rushing out to the store to buy me a new fancy record player, my meager tax relief check is going towards bills. Put some food in my stomach and gas in my tank. If there is anything left over after that, maybe I'll buy myself a new pair of blue jeans from fleet farm :rolleyes:

[Z28Roxy]

:rolleyes: So because it's a different "continent", it has a different gas tax?:confused

Maybe it's the "culture" of venezuelan's that dictate their "public transportation" choices.:confused

Or is it "culture" dictates the gas tax and "Continent" dictates the public transportation. :confused Oh I forget...MAN this stuff is confusing!

Now, is it "culture", "continent", or "hemisphere" the reason for venezuelan subsidies? Break out the math formulas!

What the hell are you babbling about?

All I was saying was that comparing UK and US gas prices (or Venezuelan and US) is like comparing apples to oranges.

[88Nightmare]

What the hell are you babbling about?

All I was saying was that comparing UK and US gas prices (or Venezuelan and US) is like comparing apples to oranges.

why, because they use a different currency which is worth a different amount? Fuel is fuel, tax is tax. Are you saying they use a different kind of 87 octane gasoline in the UK? Its all refined the same. The differences is how it must be transported to reach its destination, how far it has to go to reach its destination, and what kind of tax the local government imposes on it.

[Z28Roxy]

why, because they use a different currency which is worth a different amount? Fuel is fuel, tax is tax. Are you saying they use a different kind of 87 octane gasoline in the UK? Its all refined the same. The differences is how it must be transported to reach its destination, how far it has to go to reach its destination, and what kind of tax the local government imposes on it.

No I'm talking about how they use gasoline. They aren't as dependent on it as much as us.... at least as far as personal commuting goes.

So to say they're getting screwed on gas prices isn't entirely accurate.

[Prince Valiant]

What the hell are you babbling about?

All I was saying was that comparing UK and US gas prices (or Venezuelan and US) is like comparing apples to oranges.Simply because they are different continents and cultures!

[Z28Roxy]

Simply because they are different continents and cultures!

Read my above post for clarity.

Apparently people on cz28 understood it just fine, not sure why you can't get it.

[88Nightmare]

what does it matter HOW the gas is being consumed over there? Does it matter if its going into a city bus, a taxi, or someones Mini Cooper? It's still 9 bucks a gallon there. Just to guess, with the conversion, its probably what, 5 or 6 euros a gallon there (fyi euro is worth more then american dollar) So whether they are more or less dependent upon fossil fuels then we are, what does that matter either? Clearly they have more taxes on fuel then we do.

[Z28Roxy]

what does it matter HOW the gas is being consumed over there? Does it matter if its going into a city bus, a taxi, or someones Mini Cooper? It's still 9 bucks a gallon there. Just to guess, with the conversion, its probably what, 5 or 6 euros a gallon there (fyi euro is worth more then american dollar) So whether they are more or less dependent upon fossil fuels then we are, what does that matter either? Clearly they have more taxes on fuel then we do.

It depends how you look at it. Yes fuel is fuel, and they do pay more taxes, but that wasn't my point.

Just saying a 10% increase in the price of gas in the UK wouldn't take as big of a bite out of people's budgets as a 10% price increase of gas in the US does.

[lordairgtar]

what does it matter HOW the gas is being consumed over there? Does it matter if its going into a city bus, a taxi, or someones Mini Cooper? It's still 9 bucks a gallon there. Just to guess, with the conversion, its probably what, 5 or 6 euros a gallon there (fyi euro is worth more then american dollar) So whether they are more or less dependent upon fossil fuels then we are, what does that matter either? Clearly they have more taxes on fuel then we do.
I know people in the UK who collect American Muscle. It's tough on them.

[Prince Valiant]

Apparently people on cz28 understood it just fine, not sure why you can't get it.1 of two things:
1) They just smile and nod, and act like nothing is amiss, politely.
-or-
2) Everyone from cz28 is from the same dimension you are.

Saying that they are "different continents and cultures" doesn't explain the difference in price. It doesn't even say "apples to oranges" (I would argue saying "it's apples to oranges" is a better way of saying it's an "apples to oranges" comparison...but I digress). People on different continents and with different cultures may well pay the same prices for gas...they may pay different. It really has nothing to do with either the continent nor the culture.

But, the fact that britain and the US, or britian and venezuela, or US and venezuela's gas prices are different because they are "Two completely different cultures/continents." explains nothing relevant as to why the cost of gas is different.

[88Nightmare]

It depends how you look at it. Yes fuel is fuel, and they do pay more taxes, but that wasn't my point.

Just saying a 10% increase in the price of gas in the UK wouldn't take as big of a bite out of people's budgets as a 10% price increase of gas in the US does.

then clearly people in the UK have a higher average income then in the united states. im sure the cost of living is higher over there then it is here though. its all relative.


Besides, how do you know high gas prices doesn't hurt them as much as us? Sure their public transporation systems are better, but they have businesses and an economy over there to worry about just like we do.

[Z28Roxy]

1 of two things:
1) They just smile and nod, and act like nothing is amiss, politely.
-or-
2) Everyone from cz28 is from the same dimension you are.

Saying that they are "different continents and cultures" doesn't explain the difference in price. It doesn't even say "apples to oranges" (I would argue saying "it's apples to oranges" is a better way of saying it's an "apples to oranges" comparison...but I digress). People on different continents and with different cultures may well pay the same prices for gas...they may pay different. It really has nothing to do with either the continent nor the culture.

But, the fact that britain and the US, or britian and venezuela, or US and venezuela's gas prices are different because they are "Two completely different cultures/continents." explains nothing relevant as to why the cost of gas is different.

Two different cultures/continents wasn't meant in a completely literal sense. It was more or less that they are "worlds apart". Just different. I know that two different continents in itself doesn't mean squat when it comes to fuel prices. As much as you have some kind of goal to prove me wrong now, I'm not stupid.

I could have typed out lots of different things like more public transportation, different types of vehicles, not as automobile centric, shorter commute times because of more urbanization, smaller country, different imports/exports, different methods of transportation, blah blah blah..... but I was hoping you would get it without me having to mention all of that.

It's kind of like comparing gasoline prices to how they were in 1900. Not really relevant. I suppose more so than comparing them to 100 years ago because we are more of a world economy than ever before, but *shrug*

[Rocket Power]

there calling for $4 a gallon by summer.

They've been saying that for the last few years, although I may actually believe it this year.
The West Allis to Burlington commute isn't good for my wallet

[slickwilly]

1 of two things:
1) They just smile and nod, and act like nothing is amiss, politely.
-or-
2) Everyone from cz28 is from the same dimension you are.

Saying that they are "different continents and cultures" doesn't explain the difference in price. It doesn't even say "apples to oranges" (I would argue saying "it's apples to oranges" is a better way of saying it's an "apples to oranges" comparison...but I digress). People on different continents and with different cultures may well pay the same prices for gas...they may pay different. It really has nothing to do with either the continent nor the culture.

But, the fact that britain and the US, or britian and venezuela, or US and venezuela's gas prices are different because they are "Two completely different cultures/continents." explains nothing relevant as to why the cost of gas is different.
:rolf I love you.

[Yooformula]

we sold our durango due to the gas prices and that was 2 years ago. If they hit $4/gal I will just drive my car less and probably look for a little 4cyl.

[slickwilly]

Two different cultures/continents wasn't meant in a completely literal sense. It was more or less that they are "worlds apart". Just different. I know that two different continents in itself doesn't mean squat when it comes to fuel prices. As much as you have some kind of goal to prove me wrong now, I'm not stupid.

I could have typed out lots of different things like more public transportation, different types of vehicles, not as automobile centric, shorter commute times because of more urbanization, smaller country, different imports/exports, different methods of transportation, blah blah blah..... but I was hoping you would get it without me having to mention all of that.

It's kind of like comparing gasoline prices to how they were in 1900. Not really relevant. I suppose more so than comparing them to 100 years ago because we are more of a world economy than ever before, but *shrug*
Just an fyi: Those things you listed aren't so much reasons why the gas prices are so high as much as a response to the higher gas prices. Britain has to buy all their gas from other countries as they can't/don't collect and refine their own, similar to Japan.

[slickwilly]

we sold our durango due to the gas prices and that was 2 years ago. If they hit $4/gal I will just drive my car less and probably look for a little 4cyl.
I was thinking I'd look for a Cherokee at the end of summer, but if the gas prices really do get that high I may just buy a four cylinder something or another around July or so.

[88Nightmare]

i think im gonna try to score a cheapo geo metro or ford festiva now BEFORE gas prices hit 4 bucks a gal, because that would be a time people could command pretty high prices for those fuel sipping tin cans

[Deggy]

i think im gonna try to score a cheapo geo metro or ford festiva now BEFORE gas prices hit 4 bucks a gal, because that would be a time people could command pretty high prices for those fuel sipping tin cans

Wanna race, I'll get one too.

[Z28Roxy]

:rolf I love you.

Whatever. Misrepresenting my point is funny I guess. :confused

[Deggy]

Whatever. Misrepresenting my point is funny I guess. :confused

Maybe he does really love you Roxy. :goof

You are twice the size of ol' slickwilly tho.

[slickwilly]

Whatever. Misrepresenting my point is funny I guess. :confused
Nothing against you at all, I just love people who can properly dismantle and destroy an argument.

[Z28Roxy]

Nothing against you at all, I just love people who can properly dismantle and destroy an argument.

But it was the WRONG argument. In other words he attacked a strawman.

[88Nightmare]

Wanna race, I'll get one too.

im gonna need spots. you will have a weight advantage. IDK if I can get a GEO. Me being in the driver seat might exceed the GVWR. The little pizza cutter tires might not be able to handle it.