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BoosTT
03-01-2008, 10:15 PM
What are some good cars to make fast? I know the usual, blown fox body mustangs, dsm's with the boost cranked, wrx, ect. What are some of the more rare easily modded cars?

The only one I know about is toyota MR2 spyder 00-06. They are extremely light (2k lbs) and come with a 130hp 1.8 engine in the rear of the car. Stock performace with 130 isn't too bad either. You can swap it with the 180hp 1.8 and turbo it for a fast car. Plus it's rear engine, rear wheel drive...

Any others?

LIZMO
03-02-2008, 12:10 AM
the older model MR2's (the Turbo versions) can be made pretty quick pretty easy. You can't forget 240sx's and what about the Boosted hondas? Oh and you can't talk about going fast with out the late 70's Malibu.

Al
03-02-2008, 01:09 AM
Audi S4 ftw.

Original Beetle.

Anything from Datsun.

Car Guy
03-02-2008, 01:13 AM
What is considered fast...??? I'm not trying to sound like an smart ass, I'm just curious because people's definition of fast can vary greatly......







:3gears: :3gears: :3gears:

hotshift13
03-02-2008, 01:33 AM
YAY for Datsun...............I'm hammered!!!:alcoholic:alcoholic:alcoholic:alcoholi cRx-7 with a 5.0 motor stuffed in, talk about a torque monster!!!

70challenger452
03-02-2008, 01:37 AM
a very underrated car, turbo Daytona's, yeah, but hey, another drunk post here, woot, woot, but everyone gunna brag that their own brand is gunna have the best, and I will say a 2wd single cab dakota can very easily be put in the 14's, and it isn't all that hard to put a big block in em, I've seen dak's run 7's

HY35F2T
03-02-2008, 01:41 AM
YAY for Datsun...............I'm hammered!!!:alcoholic:alcoholic:alcoholic:alcoholi cRx-7 with a 5.0 motor stuffed in, talk about a torque monster!!!

hahaha im buzzzihng but im ****en out of booze my fav type runs mid 12's with a 100shot,14psi,open stock dp.and you can buy the cars for next to nothing.fast ehh quick yeah

scaleracer
03-02-2008, 02:06 AM
Not to be an a$$ but anything can be FAST you just have to have money to make it FAST! :shades

Beagle
03-02-2008, 02:32 AM
id have to say a head/cam maro would be the best bang for the buck or bettter yet nitroused camaro. the hell with a blown mustang. i daily drive my camaro and at the flick of a switch it tears up mustangs.

HITMAN
03-02-2008, 04:32 AM
id have to say a head/cam maro would be the best bang for the buck or bettter yet nitroused camaro. the hell with a blown mustang. i daily drive my camaro and at the flick of a switch it tears up mustangs.

Have you considered what happens if your bottle isn't charged properly or it goes empty prematurely? You can't run out of blower, but you you can run out of nitrous. Nitrous makes for a nice little add-on for an already decent combination, but if it's your sole means of making your car fast, you're in for a big disappointment at some point...

Lash
03-02-2008, 08:29 AM
Anything can be made fast.

It all depends on how much time, effort, and money you want to stick into it.

DRK
03-02-2008, 09:09 AM
BMW 3 series with a inline 6. All forged and ready for boost, just a junkyard turbo away from low 11's or better.

DRK
03-02-2008, 09:11 AM
id have to say a head/cam maro would be the best bang for the buck or bettter yet nitroused camaro. the hell with a blown mustang. i daily drive my camaro and at the flick of a switch it tears up mustangs.

:alcoholicyou could build 2 foxes for the price of one ls1 or lt1 car. they'd both be quicker and be a better car to boot.

Poncho
03-02-2008, 09:36 AM
Don't forget the #4 car in the GM pecking order, the #1 FWD car - the W-Body cars, huge potential, and a balance of practicality.

Reverend Cooper
03-02-2008, 09:39 AM
the older model MR2's (the Turbo versions) can be made pretty quick pretty easy. You can't forget 240sx's and what about the Boosted hondas? Oh and you can't talk about going fast with out the late 70's Malibu.

yeah the early 90s turbo or the older even more lighter 80s mr2 with supercharger. then there is the trusted supra

BadAzzGTA89
03-02-2008, 10:27 AM
Don't forget the #4 car in the GM pecking order, the #1 FWD car - the W-Body cars, huge potential, and a balance of practicality.
I agree the w-body for cheap L67 FTW!

oneslowcamino
03-02-2008, 10:34 AM
How about a Starion, first gen MR2, or how about a g body?

Windsors 03 Cobra
03-02-2008, 12:05 PM
A subaru svx I think it's called.

CobaltSSTuner
03-02-2008, 12:18 PM
you can make anything fast, just takes $$$

Crawlin
03-02-2008, 12:34 PM
:alcoholicyou could build 2 foxes for the price of one ls1 or lt1 car. they'd both be quicker and be a better car to boot.

that's just a matter of opinion. a DECENT condition fox is about 3500-4500. a decent condition lt1 car is about 4500-5000 and is about 1 sec quicker already. LS1 cars can be had for about 7000 and are about 2 seconds quicker than the fox. sure you can say we need a rear end in those cars, but i can say that you need a $1500-2000 block just to hold some 10 sec power reliably, when stock ls1 blocks have been into the 8's and 9's repeatedly, so that evens out

so again, everything is a matter of opinion.

in all honesty, when wanting to go as FAST as possible, with as LITTLE money as possible, your best bet is going to be a $500 roller 78-82 Malibu OR a '79-93 Mustang roller, drop in a stock iron block BBC and spray a shitload at it. When it blows, parts and pieces are a dime a dozen.

I think those old MR2's were pretty cool to make fast, but just not exactly cheap to do so.

I think tossing in a 5.0L in a Miata is pretty cool.

Poncho
03-02-2008, 12:47 PM
A subaru svx I think it's called.

cheap to go fast? I guess if you want to ditch the automatic, swap in a manual, then dump the motor and ECU as well for a turbo/stick setup out of a WRX. They are junk and don't have much potential at all. Coworker has one, and it sucks. Fastest one I could find on the net was in the low 14's.

Beagle
03-02-2008, 01:42 PM
Have you considered what happens if your bottle isn't charged properly or it goes empty prematurely? You can't run out of blower, but you you can run out of nitrous. Nitrous makes for a nice little add-on for an already decent combination, but if it's your sole means of making your car fast, you're in for a big disappointment at some point...

never had that happen. i dont go around spraying against cars i dont need to. plus its funny as hell when you beat someone in a car that has more money into it. like a cobra for example. FORD SUCKS..... :rolf :rolf :rolf

HITMAN
03-02-2008, 02:15 PM
never had that happen. i dont go around spraying against cars i dont need to. plus its funny as hell when you beat someone in a car that has more money into it. like a cobra for example. FORD SUCKS..... :rolf :rolf :rolf

Well, according to what I've read here, you pretty much need to spray EVERYBODY you run. :rolf

Using your silly-assed criteria for what sucks and what doesn't, then I guess you and your awesome Camaro rule. Enjoy your giant radio buttons, big useless hump on the passenger floor, your miles deep mini-van dash board, and the tiny storage space behind the useless rear seat I like to call "the live well" that lives underneath the world's largest hatchback. Wow, what a great car. So well engineered. That must be why I've seen so many '03, '04, '05, '06, '07, and '08 F-Bodies driving around. :durr

BTW, you haven't beat me yet...

BOSS LX
03-02-2008, 02:47 PM
Well, according to what I've read here, you pretty much need to spray EVERYBODY you run. :rolf

Using your silly-assed criteria for what sucks and what doesn't, then I guess you and your awesome Camaro rule. Enjoy your giant radio buttons, big useless hump on the passenger floor, your miles deep mini-van dash board, and the tiny storage space behind the useless rear seat I like to call "the live well" that lives underneath the world's largest hatchback. Wow, what a great car. So well engineered. That must be why I've seen so many '03, '04, '05, '06, '07, and '08 F-Bodies driving around. :durr

BTW, you haven't beat me yet...

:thumbsup

Poncho
03-02-2008, 02:50 PM
Well, according to what I've read here, you pretty much need to spray EVERYBODY you run. :rolf

Using your silly-assed criteria for what sucks and what doesn't, then I guess you and your awesome Camaro rule. Enjoy your giant radio buttons, big useless hump on the passenger floor, your miles deep mini-van dash board, and the tiny storage space behind the useless rear seat I like to call "the live well" that lives underneath the world's largest hatchback. Wow, what a great car. So well engineered. That must be why I've seen so many '03, '04, '05, '06, '07, and '08 F-Bodies driving around. :durr

BTW, you haven't beat me yet...

very well put. :thumbsup

forest
03-02-2008, 03:29 PM
very well put. :thumbsup
+1 haha

awsomeears
03-02-2008, 03:41 PM
95-99 Dodge Neon takes the cake !!!!!!!!!!!!

You can build a motor that can handle 500 Horse Power with Stock parts from your mopar dealer. Pistons/Rods/Ring can be purchased for $225 :headbang

This done buy using the older 2.4 stratus motors and using the Srt-4 internals. As long as the older 2.4 has the original dia" bore everything drops in.

So a built long block from head to pan would be right around $900 $-1100 depending where you get the parts.

Turbo $150 - $200 ( this is the best part about neons ) from 95 to 05 there are many parts that can be swapped in and out, the Srt-4 turbofold witch is a turbo and manifold all in one with internal waste gate is a direct bolt on.

There are a bunch of company's out there that add a large comp. and p&p the insides up.

5-speed Dodge neon with no motor = Free up to $250 ( there everywhere )
Fuel lines, rrfpr, 1:1 Map clamp and such = $350 to $600 depending on Used parts option.
FMIC = Ebay :thumbsup
Piping = Ebay :thumbsup

This is why I own 2 and have sold 4 :) cheap fun.

But there is one thing you have to think about, 80% of the people will say " dude its a neon " so you must get used to that. Even if you were to pull on another car its still a NEON.

What kind of fast are you talking about ?

Poncho
03-02-2008, 03:44 PM
and now to distract everyone....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg198/mwsrfest/tight_jeans.gif

TURTLE
03-02-2008, 04:14 PM
i'll 2nd the neon on being cheep and easy...

also you can go for the mid-late 80's early 90's FWD chrysler k-car's... daytona, spirit, acclaim, omni, shadow, lebaron... factory turbo'd and many aftermarket options... even up to dropping a DOHC stratus/neon head on the same 2.2/2.5 block for better flow... talk to russ jerome about that one ;)

also, perhaps... 89, 90 civic hatchbacks... for turning... if you look at the last few years of scca autox(solo2) results at nationals, the car to have(a.k.a. top 5) is one of those 2 years... cheep, easy to build, and one hella fast car in the twisties... or if ya wanna go fast, call up hasport and get a k-swap kit... bulls-eye

DRK
03-02-2008, 04:36 PM
70-75 911. They can be built fairly cheap, under 25K. They are about 1700 lbs gutted, will make 350hp N/A, and they put the power down apex out like no other.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t116/DRK_LLC/72RSRclone.jpg

ND4SPD
03-02-2008, 05:21 PM
Just go out to a Real Street Drags some night and you'll see what cars are good to make fast. ;)

How about a Fiero... you could pick up a 4-cyl for <$2000 and drop a V8 in it (and then do whatever you want to the V8). You'll have to run an automatic though unless you want to be changing out the clutches all the time.

Poncho
03-02-2008, 05:45 PM
I wonder can a 4T80 fit in a Fiero, or are they stuck with a built 65?

Or what about that new 6-speed manual they are now employing?

HP ADDICT
03-02-2008, 06:28 PM
I'd stick with the basics. Fox body, LT1 or LS1 on Spray 13,12,11 sec cars for 4-6k done.

Windsors 03 Cobra
03-02-2008, 06:39 PM
How are C3 Vette's for going fast for "cheap" ? LoL

forest
03-02-2008, 06:42 PM
and now to distract everyone....

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg198/mwsrfest/tight_jeans.gif

yummy

70 cutlass 442
03-02-2008, 09:59 PM
Have you considered what happens if your bottle isn't charged properly or it goes empty prematurely? You can't run out of blower, but you you can run out of nitrous. Nitrous makes for a nice little add-on for an already decent combination, but if it's your sole means of making your car fast, you're in for a big disappointment at some point...

1. keep a spare bottle near by
2. when the spray hits its a hell of a lot more fun then a blower
3. money for hp nitorus wins obviously.
4. its easier to "hide" spray then a blower if that is you goal
5. if you can afford to keep your bottle(s) full then you should consider a different hobby.

I like anyhting that is forced, but by far i like the way spray hits, seems alot more fun for me.

and yes you can run out of blower, a little s trim thats good for 650 hp isnt as easy to change as dropping larger jets in.

zerepdivad
03-02-2008, 11:40 PM
a midget can be made pretty fast.

DurtyKurty
03-03-2008, 08:35 AM
Well, according to what I've read here, you pretty much need to spray EVERYBODY you run. :rolf

Using your silly-assed criteria for what sucks and what doesn't, then I guess you and your awesome Camaro rule. Enjoy your giant radio buttons, big useless hump on the passenger floor, your miles deep mini-van dash board, and the tiny storage space behind the useless rear seat I like to call "the live well" that lives underneath the world's largest hatchback. Wow, what a great car. So well engineered. That must be why I've seen so many '03, '04, '05, '06, '07, and '08 F-Bodies driving around. :durr

BTW, you haven't beat me yet...

Live well... LOL! :headbang

Slow Joe
03-03-2008, 08:50 AM
More rarely modified cars...

Saab 9-5 (Arc or Aero)... Both are Turbo cars from the factory and with $1500 you have about 300hp...

Saab 9-3 (Pre '03) Once again, a turbo car and with about $1500 in mods can have around 300 hp...

Saab 9-3 Viggen... Has the 9-5 Engine (2.3L as opposed to 2.0L) in a smaller package, easy mods and lots of aftermarket (for a saab)

VW Jetta/Golf 1.8T... Big aftermarket...

Volvo C70 Coupe... Factory Turbo with quite a bit of aftermarket support...

forest
03-03-2008, 09:29 AM
AMC gremlin with 350 swap
ford pinto 351 swap
dodge dart 360 swap
chevy vega 350 swap
75-79 nova 350-454
datsun 510 with 350 swap
original beetle (anything swap)

all cars that are cheap to buy, modify and have huge support in the aftermarket

Windsors 03 Cobra
03-03-2008, 10:44 AM
I was just "joshin" with the Subaru Svx, I mean that would almost be as dumb as modding a 89 Isuzu Impulse. :D

The bouncing can's are pretty tight tho. :)

juicedimpss
03-03-2008, 12:48 PM
:alcoholicyou could build 2 foxes for the price of one ls1 or lt1 car. they'd both be quicker and be a better car to boot.

yeah ok :alcoholic


you cant leave out the bubble caprices...they hook like a mofo with stock suspension and respond well to the usual LT1 heads/cam/nitrous packages.

juicedimpss
03-03-2008, 12:53 PM
plus its funny as hell when you beat someone in a car that has more money into it. like a cobra for example. FORD SUCKS..... :rolf :rolf :rolf

haha
thats funny shit.sucks when antique designs work better than current technology.:rolf:nitrous

Z28Roxy
03-03-2008, 01:11 PM
yeah ok :alcoholic


you cant leave out the bubble caprices...they hook like a mofo with stock suspension and respond well to the usual LT1 heads/cam/nitrous packages.

My caprice smokes the shit out of the tires for a high 14 second beast :confused

Feature Pony
03-03-2008, 01:11 PM
Well, according to what I've read here, you pretty much need to spray EVERYBODY you run. :rolf

Using your silly-assed criteria for what sucks and what doesn't, then I guess you and your awesome Camaro rule. Enjoy your giant radio buttons, big useless hump on the passenger floor, your miles deep mini-van dash board, and the tiny storage space behind the useless rear seat I like to call "the live well" that lives underneath the world's largest hatchback. Wow, what a great car. So well engineered. That must be why I've seen so many '03, '04, '05, '06, '07, and '08 F-Bodies driving around. :durr

BTW, you haven't beat me yet...

LOL, x2 you better have more than NO2 done to your LT what to hang with the 03-04 cobras.

HY35F2T
03-03-2008, 01:12 PM
My caprice smokes the shit out of the tires for a high 14 second beast :confused

runs high 14's?

Z28Roxy
03-03-2008, 01:15 PM
runs high 14's?

Guessing it might under the best conditions, it has exhaust, 3.08s, and a cold air.

juicedimpss
03-03-2008, 01:16 PM
runs high 14's?

a stock lt1 caprice will run high14-low 15 bone stock. with upgraded valve springs,catback,and a gear(373) it will run high 13-low 14. with a convertor it will run low to mid 13s,traction limited.

HY35F2T
03-03-2008, 01:25 PM
really hmmm.:alcoholic

DRK
03-03-2008, 04:22 PM
yeah ok :alcoholic


you cant leave out the bubble caprices...they hook like a mofo with stock suspension and respond well to the usual LT1 heads/cam/nitrous packages.


You can build a 11sec fox for what a LT1/LS1 heads,cam, and intake package costs, car and all. It'll be lighter, they have more of a aftermarket, and they just plain work. Foxbody Mustangs have won more Championships then 4th gens have won races, period.
The Caprice wouldn't be a bad car if you needed to haul the family too. I would be more drawn to a Fairmont or Malibu wagon though for the family truckster.

Feature Pony
03-03-2008, 05:44 PM
I also vote for the daytonas and laser turbos.

TURTLE
03-03-2008, 06:16 PM
I also vote for the daytonas and laser turbos.

for the record, they also made turbo minivans and turbo k-car wagons(aries, lebaron, etc) quite fun with the boost turned up and a powerstroke intercooler shoehorned between the headlights... :thumbsup

HP ADDICT
03-03-2008, 07:56 PM
You can build a 11sec fox for what a LT1/LS1 heads,cam, and intake package costs, car and all.
Maybe you should research a little more. If that were the case you would have every fox body smoking the shit out of every 4th gen out there on the road today.

Z28Roxy
03-03-2008, 07:59 PM
Maybe you should research a little more. If that were the case you would have every fox body smoking the shit out of every 4th gen out there on the road today.

We all know the best use of an LT1 or LS1 is a boat anchor :thumbsup

HP ADDICT
03-03-2008, 08:14 PM
Yeah we could all have $1500 5.0s with eleventy billion hp

forest
03-03-2008, 08:34 PM
Yeah we could all have $1500 5.0s with eleventy billion hp

and then maybe we could split the block in half when we hit mid tens haha:rolf

DRK
03-03-2008, 08:35 PM
My coupe motor: 302, e-cam, home ported heads, cobra intake, 70mm t/b, longtubes, made 250 rwhp /286 rwt on a mustang dyno. @ 2700lbs that car would have gone 11s all day on a $250 150hp dry shot. I had $4000 into that car.

vdub4life
03-03-2008, 08:36 PM
How about 79 rx7 with any v8,or my future project a rabbit with vr6 turbo:

HY35F2T
03-03-2008, 08:37 PM
How about 79 rx7 with any v8,or my future project a rabbit with vr6 turbo:

rx7 v8:shades:thumbsup

BadAzzGTA89
03-03-2008, 08:39 PM
How about 79 rx7 with any v8,or my future project a rabbit with vr6 turbo:

NOOB
:pics

sloLs1
03-03-2008, 08:39 PM
a saturn... $5k and some time and you got a v-8 rwd grocery getter:headbang



i agree with a few others on here... anything can be made fast, its about how much time and money you put into it!

Z28Roxy
03-03-2008, 08:40 PM
My coupe motor: 302, e-cam, home ported heads, cobra intake, 70mm t/b, longtubes, made 250 rwhp /286 rwt on a mustang dyno. @ 2700lbs that car would have gone 11s all day on a $250 150hp dry shot. I had $4000 into that car.

You know LT1s and LS1s have gone 11s with just bolt ons right? The 10 bolt is the biggest ***** on 4th gens :(

DRK
03-03-2008, 08:44 PM
A $7000 car and $2500 worth of bolt ons then another $2500 for a rear. You can build or buy a lot of car for $12000

Z28Roxy
03-03-2008, 08:52 PM
A $7000 car and $2500 worth of bolt ons then another $2500 for a rear. You can build or buy a lot of car for $12000

That's not overestimating just a little :rolf

Jethoat coated longtube headers = $460 shipped (could have skipped coating)
True dual over the axle exhaust = $500 (would have been cheaper if dumps)
Tune = $70
Rockers and springs = $300
Cold air = home made, $50

$1400 worth of bolt ons, would have been $1000 if I really cheaped out

Rear end $2000 even for a Dana S60, or several have beefed up the 10 bolt or gotten a junkyard rear to work for like $500

My car was $5800 7 years ago :rolf:rolf:rolf you can get LT1s for $4000 (LS1s for $5500) these days if you look hard enough, $3000ish if ratted on bodies or interiors.

DRK
03-03-2008, 09:00 PM
No lt1 is gonna go 11s with a exhaust and a cold air. They only went 14.5 stock. LS1 shit is twice what LT1 stuff is. For that $3500 you could put a s-trim and meth on the fox and run 10's.
I'm not say 4th gens are bad cars but, they are. Anyway it's just not possible to build a 4th gen as cheap as is is a fox.

Z28Roxy
03-03-2008, 09:03 PM
No lt1 is gonna go 11s with a exhaust and a cold air. They only went 14.5 stock. LS1 shit is twice what LT1 stuff is. For that $3500 you could put a s-trim and meth on the fox and run 10's.
I'm not say 4th gens are bad cars but, they are. Anyway it's just not possible to build a 4th gen as cheap as is is a fox.

11s with weight reduction (gutted but not hacked off body parts or any such nonsense). It's been done several times.

LT1s have run as low as 13.6 stock to boot.

If weight reduction isn't allowed, just add a cheap shot of nitrous as you suggested :durr

HP ADDICT
03-03-2008, 09:07 PM
LS1 stuff is no longer uber expensive. Plenty of lt1 cars have gone mid 13s stock. Take a lt1 for 4000, home ported heads, cam, bolt ons and you could easily hit low 12s with slicks. BTW how did you car come to 2700#'s. I am sure a gutted 4 gen could hit 11's with no spray and a H/C swap. Your cars must hook really good on stock suspension and street tires to.

HP ADDICT
03-03-2008, 09:11 PM
No lt1 is gonna go 11s with a exhaust and a cold air. They only went 14.5 stock. LS1 shit is twice what LT1 stuff is. For that $3500 you could put a s-trim and meth on the fox and run 10's.
I'm not say 4th gens are bad cars but, they are. Anyway it's just not possible to build a 4th gen as cheap as is is a fox.

I agree that a fox body could be made overall faster cheaper. You just make it sound WAY to easy. 1/2 the price of a lt1 I dont think so. 10's dont come cheap. For 3500 a 10 sec fox body with a charger LOL. I bet for 4k you could run 9's right?????????

Z28Roxy
03-03-2008, 09:16 PM
For 3500 a 10 sec fox body with a charger LOL. I bet for 4k you could run 9's right?????????

Procharger + a $500 shot of nitrous :banana1:

juicedimpss
03-03-2008, 09:45 PM
id be willing to bet a small shot with a convertor,tune and headers on a STOCK fbody could run mid-low 12s easily. the rear end is on borrowed time.
come get some lt1.

HY35F2T
03-03-2008, 10:01 PM
id be willing to bet a small shot with a convertor,tune and headers on a STOCK fbody could run mid-low 12s easily. the rear end is on borrowed time.
come get some lt1.

dontppl throw like 150shot on it and run midtohigh 12's:confused

Poncho
03-03-2008, 11:16 PM
I clearly bought nowhere near the right car to ever go fast.

DRK
03-03-2008, 11:23 PM
I agree that a fox body could be made overall faster cheaper. You just make it sound WAY to easy. 1/2 the price of a lt1 I dont think so. 10's dont come cheap. For 3500 a 10 sec fox body with a charger LOL. I bet for 4k you could run 9's right?????????


ok:durr CaMaRos are da best ever I be sorry for haten yo!

DRK
03-03-2008, 11:25 PM
On another note 87 GNs are starting to be come affordable. With about $2000 you can have one solidly into the 12's

Poncho
03-03-2008, 11:44 PM
what like parts of it? a door?

DRK
03-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Sorry I forgot who would be reading this. You can pick them up for 7-8k with less then 100k on them. Then with $2000 in mods you can have them solidly into the low 12's

Z28Roxy
03-04-2008, 09:52 AM
ok:durr CaMaRos are da best ever I be sorry for haten yo!

Apparently reading comprehension > you.

He outright said that foxes were probably cheaper/easier to make fast.

I (nor anyone else) said otherwise.

It was just said that it wasn't exactly difficult to make 4th gens fast either.

HP ADDICT
03-04-2008, 01:56 PM
Sorry I forgot who would be reading this. You can pick them up for 7-8k with less then 100k on them. Then with $2000 in mods you can have them solidly into the low 12's

Find me one of these.

lit666
03-04-2008, 01:59 PM
I want to buy Ryan's maro. I just want to throw a big shot on it and have fun with it.

forest
03-04-2008, 02:00 PM
ron doesn't even have a 4gen camaro..... just a big ol sled... with an outdated a$$ motor:shades

Slow Joe
03-04-2008, 02:03 PM
cheap to go fast? I guess if you want to ditch the automatic, swap in a manual, then dump the motor and ECU as well for a turbo/stick setup out of a WRX. They are junk and don't have much potential at all. Coworker has one, and it sucks. Fastest one I could find on the net was in the low 14's.

SVX FTL!

The only thing it does is look neat... :rolf And cost alot to fix...

DRK
03-04-2008, 03:02 PM
Find me one of these.

here's one with 70k for $10,500
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Buick-Regal-T-Type-Grand-National-Low-Miles_W0QQitemZ160214515237QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m160214515237

they are out there

Poncho
03-04-2008, 03:06 PM
$10,500 is not $7000

DRK
03-04-2008, 03:07 PM
70k is not a 100k either jackass. that was a 30sec search

Windsors 03 Cobra
03-04-2008, 03:43 PM
The SVX also looked like rubbish, 2 piece door glass or wtf is that ? :D

HY35F2T
03-04-2008, 03:58 PM
The SVX also looked like rubbish, 2 piece door glass or wtf is that ? :D

maybe they were going for this?
http://www.qualifiedremodeler.com/images/article/1181324562671_08.jpg

Prince Valiant
03-04-2008, 04:01 PM
I love taking just about any old school v8...even the inline-6's, whatever chasis it is in (be it a dart, nova, falcon, etc) and doing roughly 600-800 bucks worth of work, and viola! You've got a decently fast car.

Case in point: My big heavy Coronet...basic breadn'butter 318 and 2.76 gears. Smallest summit cam (90 bucks), 100 dollar brand new headers, 100 dollar pre-bent exhaust/mufflers, 150 buck intake, 250 dollar carb, recurve the ignition and tune and viola! As fast as most stock fox-bodies. This engine in a 500-700 lbs lighter dart, with 3.90 gears and again...you've got a 13 second ride for not alot of work or cash.

Beagle
03-04-2008, 04:05 PM
id be willing to bet a small shot with a convertor,tune and headers on a STOCK fbody could run mid-low 12s easily. the rear end is on borrowed time.
come get some lt1.

well i can tell you that an Lt1 with those mods will run at least that.:devil

Prince Valiant
03-04-2008, 04:07 PM
oh...and as far as speed for cheap...the legend of getting 12 second turbomopars for under 12 dollars is very true....I haven't done it, but others have.

Prince Valiant
03-04-2008, 04:09 PM
The SVX also looked like rubbish, 2 piece door glass or wtf is that ? :D
To get the curved glass/roof yet still have a window that could roll-down. Gorgeous cars...too bad the interior and engine didn't quite live up to the looks.

I'd do a 5 speed swap if I got one...

SBC-Fox
03-04-2008, 04:09 PM
I want to buy Ryan's maro. I just want to throw a big shot on it and have fun with it.

sorry bud obd1 gotta have a chip to spray a big shot 93 = the gay

SBC-Fox
03-04-2008, 04:13 PM
i have both an f body and a foxbody foxbodys cheaper for parts f bodys cheaper to make power both are good cars to start with but foxes arnt as easy to make super fast as everone thinks parts are cheaper but bolt ons dont add as much power to a fox as they do an f body just my 2 cents like uasall everyone will tell me im wrong

lit666
03-04-2008, 04:20 PM
will u take payments for your maro

SBC-Fox
03-04-2008, 04:32 PM
will u take payments for your maro

maby i kinda wanted to keep it for the summer not sure yet

70 cutlass 442
03-04-2008, 04:48 PM
sorry bud obd1 gotta have a chip to spray a big shot 93 = the gay

I will have to disagree with this.

Flight_740
03-04-2008, 05:04 PM
An old AWD pontiac 6000 with a series 2 S/C thrown into it would be fun.

forest
03-04-2008, 05:42 PM
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1447426
I had one of these that I jumped 8ft through the air and landed on a boulder, the car wasn't happy after that. I had to kick the window out to get out of the car the floor was so bent that the doors wouldn't open. haha Arizona is great!!! the only use for an old suby that I could think of haha. WRX/STI is the $hit though

SBC-Fox
03-04-2008, 06:26 PM
I will have to disagree with this.

well talk to to juiced imp ss than he knows his shit pretty dam good and ide say he has just a tiny bit of knoweldge when it comes to spray he told me after about 75 to 100 shot ull prolly need a chip cause it cant be tuned unless i misunderstood him

Guteman
03-04-2008, 06:58 PM
Saab 9000 Aero can make over 300bhp and 340 ftlbs with a stage 3 tune and exhaust.
MR2 with boost controller can go pretty good.

HP ADDICT
03-04-2008, 07:08 PM
70k is not a 100k either jackass. that was a 30sec search

You also posted a link to a 87 WHITE "GN" think about it car guru.:rolf

juicedimpss
03-04-2008, 07:24 PM
sorry bud obd1 gotta have a chip to spray a big shot 93 = the gay

thats the truth.
burning chips =teh gay

Z28Roxy
03-04-2008, 07:47 PM
thats the truth.
burning chips =teh gay

I thought speed density cars were the only ones with "chips"

juicedimpss
03-04-2008, 07:51 PM
I thought speed density cars were the only ones with "chips"

yeah,93 is the chipped junk. it was a bastard. ask scotty k how many chips he had burned for his car lol

Z28Roxy
03-04-2008, 07:53 PM
yeah,93 is the chipped junk. it was a bastard. ask scotty k how many chips he had burned for his car lol

Then isn't misleading, since 94-95 would be obd1 but not need to burn chips?

juicedimpss
03-04-2008, 07:58 PM
Then isn't misleading, since 94-95 would be obd1 but not need to burn chips?

correct.94-95 is a flash,96 can be converted to use 94-95 pcm with a mod to the knock sensor circuit.its a very common swap due to the tuning/logging software prices for the OBD1 pcm.

Z28Roxy
03-04-2008, 08:14 PM
correct.94-95 is a flash,96 can be converted to use 94-95 pcm with a mod to the knock sensor circuit.its a very common swap due to the tuning/logging software prices for the OBD1 pcm.

Was more asking about what you would need to do for :nitrous for 94-95.

juicedimpss
03-04-2008, 08:15 PM
Was more asking about what you would need to do for :nitrous for 94-95.

just the right tune for the size of the shot.
bigger fuel pump is definately a good idea if you are tapping off the rail for fuel.i prefer a stand alone fuel system for the nitrous kit.

turbogarrett
03-04-2008, 09:06 PM
For a good car to make fast, I've gotta vote for the v8 rx7. Hard to beat the performance for the $$ of a 2nd gen rx7 with an ls1/t56 swap. They can be completed for well under 10k, handle well, can run 11's all day with hardly any mods and still look pretty damn good. The 3rd gen has better suspension, aero and styling, but is much less of a sleeper, less room in the engine bay and will cost 2x+ to do. I don't have any first hand experience with the 1st gens, but the 5.0 appears to fit nicely and is lighter than the others.

The great thing about building a bastard 7 is that pretty much all the problems have been ironed out over the years and it is now pretty much a "bolt on" installation whether you go with the lsx, lt1, 5.0 or sbc.

DRK
03-04-2008, 09:10 PM
or a Monster Miata with a LS1/t56 to keep the weight down

wrath
03-11-2008, 11:12 AM
What's wrong with a standard cab shortbox S10 and a smallblock? Or a standard cab shortbox GMT400/L31 or a GMT800/LQ9?